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Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1593. (Read 4670622 times)

legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1003
Is there a simple guide anywhere on how to transfer Moneros?

What are the different values for "mxin_count" and what is recommended?

What do you put in the "payment_id" field etc?

What is the transfer fee?

mixin = the level of ambiguity you want to add to the transfer (ie. the number of signatures you want to mix with)

payment ID = an optional field, exchanges and merchants may give you a 64 character string to put in here

The fee is currently 0.005 XMR per transaction. This will change in future.

Thank you fro the fast reply.

About the mixin.. What is the standard number and what is the maximum number?

0-10

No standard number. Use 0 for non-anon transfers. I'd recommend 3+.
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
Is there a simple guide anywhere on how to transfer Moneros?

What are the different values for "mxin_count" and what is recommended?

What do you put in the "payment_id" field etc?

What is the transfer fee?

mixin = the level of ambiguity you want to add to the transfer (ie. the number of signatures you want to mix with)

payment ID = an optional field, exchanges and merchants may give you a 64 character string to put in here

The fee is currently 0.005 XMR per transaction. This will change in future.

Thank you fro the fast reply.

About the mixin.. What is the standard number and what is the maximum number?
donator
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1060
GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com
Is there a simple guide anywhere on how to transfer Moneros?

What are the different values for "mxin_count" and what is recommended?

What do you put in the "payment_id" field etc?

What is the transfer fee?

mixin = the level of ambiguity you want to add to the transfer (ie. the number of signatures you want to mix with)

payment ID = an optional field, exchanges and merchants may give you a 64 character string to put in here

The fee is currently 0.005 XMR per transaction. This will change in future.
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
Is there a simple guide anywhere on how to transfer Moneros?

What are the different values for "mxin_count" and what is recommended?

What do you put in the "payment_id" field etc?

What is the transfer fee?
full member
Activity: 143
Merit: 100
Pools: XMR.HashInvest.net

Pyкoвoдcтвo пo ycтaнoвкe и мaйнингy Monero нa pyccкoм языкe http://hashinvest.net/ru_monero_mining_guide.pdf

// Russian Monero setup and mining guide
full member
Activity: 212
Merit: 100
Just made a website so we can talk about Monero irc or chat box MoneroChat.com

I opened the link, put my user name, hit start.

Code:
Error Connecting (Error: xhr poll error)

Kiwi had some problems last night its all fine now ! Happy Chat
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1018
It's about time -- All merrit accepted !!!
quite funny actually
So...lets see if I understand this correctly...

1) You have a ton of alt coins already...but you want to borrow more
2) You have hundreds of thousands in transactions in poker but you can't affort $500 to $1200 worth of some other alt coins?
3) You have been trading for 7 months, yet don't have enough money for your trading.

Got it. Where can I send you money? I would like to be part of this right away!  Shocked


lols, my thoughts exactly Mumbles...why not just claim you're a nigerian prince who enjoys trading alts?
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1011
Monero Evangelist

Search for an better Web2IRC-script/gateway software. E.g.
http://ircanywhere.com/ or https://github.com/spoulson/Chatmore

But you should really do research, there most likeley even better ones.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
Just made a website so we can talk about Monero irc or chat box MoneroChat.com

I opened the link, put my user name, hit start.

Code:
Error Connecting (Error: xhr poll error)
full member
Activity: 212
Merit: 100
Just made a website so we can talk about Monero irc or chat box MoneroChat.com
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
I recommend watching Coast to coast (7-24), scary stuff about banks being able to move money from your account without even asking for permission aka what happened in cyprus.

When you deposit money into a bank, you are legally defined as an unsecured creditor. There is no "your money" after you deposit. When you deposit you have loaned the bank money. That money belongs entirely to the bank. You may then request for them to pay back some or all of that loan at a future date, but it is up to them whether or not to comply with that request. The advantages of paying you back is that it helps to maintain their reputation and ensure that they will have more creditors similar to yourself in the future. The advantage of not paying you back is, well, they have more money. This means that if the bank is in a situation where they have expectation of receiving more loans from creditors in the future than they will be incentivized to make good on their debt to you, but if they do not have such an expectation, than they will be incentivized not to make good on their debt to you.

TLDR: don't ever loan a bank more money than is absolutely necessary.

exactly, fortunately Monero community is already comprised of smart gentleman that are alert of such perils.

Thats why i love this forum. If i just went to some general purpose anarchist forum it would be one giant circle jerk. Here its like we are united by something else, but generally all understand the same principals that would have been present in the aforementioned.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
I recommend watching Coast to coast (7-24), scary stuff about banks being able to move money from your account without even asking for permission aka what happened in cyprus.

When you deposit money into a bank, you are legally defined as an unsecured creditor. There is no "your money" after you deposit. When you deposit you have loaned the bank money. That money belongs entirely to the bank. You may then request for them to pay back some or all of that loan at a future date, but it is up to them whether or not to comply with that request. The advantages of paying you back is that it helps to maintain their reputation and ensure that they will have more creditors similar to yourself in the future. The advantage of not paying you back is, well, they have more money. This means that if the bank is in a situation where they have expectation of receiving more loans from creditors in the future than they will be incentivized to make good on their debt to you, but if they do not have such an expectation, than they will be incentivized not to make good on their debt to you. There are verious factors which can lead to a situation where they do not have an expectation that creditors will continue to loan them money in the future.

TLDR: don't ever loan a bank more money than is absolutely necessary.
hero member
Activity: 795
Merit: 514
... please understand this is such an edge-case that we're taking about protection from an extremely sophisticated attacker with extremely large access to resources.

Such as a certain 3-letter government agency? These are exactly the people we're trying to keep out. Otherwise we'd just stick to coin-join.

Monero is at least 12 months away from anything close to this, and it's hard to determine when it is "safe enough" for this. My comment was just to point out that to the casual observers, very technical people, and even reasonably sophisticated attackers Monero is already "safe enough". To a more sophisticated attacker, especially the aforementioned 3LAs, there are so many edge cases we need to deal with that it will take time. But in its current form, it already blows CoinJoin out the water.

Agreed, and I realize it's a work in progress Smiley I wasn't suggesting that CoinJoin is anywhere close to CN tech. The point was that until these edge cases are dealt with, it doesn't really matter.
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Whimsical Pants
Please forgive my shameless plug for the donations thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7914927

The monero devs are not paid by a premine like so may other alts.  Donations are a very small price to pay for that critical part of the design.

Here are the donation tiers... secure a spot in the history of this coin today:

Donators of 1,000 XMR - 6th dan monero superheros with 1 crate of Diamonds

Donators of 500 XMR - 5th dan monero superheros with piles of Rhodium

Donators of 200 XMR - 4th dan monero superheros with bars of Platinum

Donators of 100 XMR - 3rd dan monero heros with coins of Gold

Donators of 50 XMR - 2nd dan monero heros with a stash of Silver

Donators of 20 XMR - 1st dan monero heros with a hoard of Copper

Donators of 10 XMR - 1st kyu monero supporters with a bale of high quality hygiene paper

Donators of 5 XMR - 2nd kyu monero supporters with a wad of U.S. dollars

Donators of 2 XMR - 3rd kyu monero supporters with a holding of Goxcoins

Donators of 1 XMR - 4th kyu monero supporters with a bag of Darkcoins


On this link, you can also see who has earned one of these pretentious ranks!  Go put your name among the honored ones:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7914927
donator
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1060
GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com
I would argue that the ability to "prove" your transaction is not hugely important. Such is the nature of cash. You probably wouldn't want to use cash to make public transactions, nor would you be inclined to use Monero.

We should focus on making XMR as untracable and unlinkable as we can (like cash), while continuing to improve usability, and worry less about these convenience features until the coin is more mature. I truly think it will be a mistake to try to make this a do-it-all, something-for-everybody currency.

For usability's sake, there should be a default ambiguity (that isn't zero. Maybe 1 or 2?). Setting specific levels of ambiguity should be an advanced or custom parameter that the average user shouldn't have to think about for common transactions.

Unfortunately it's not possible to completely disable the ability to prove a transaction is yours. After all, your "balance" (for want of a better term) is really just the sum of all your unspent inputs, determined by stepping through the blockchain with your private key and determining, for each transaction, if it contains an output or input related to you. Thus, at its worst, a user could move funds to a new wallet and reveal their private key for the old in order to expose transactions. We have to accept this as a given.

Thus, we may as well provide the functionality in a way that doesn't compromise users on either side of the transaction. BUT - you are right, it is not a major focus right now. There are stacks of other things that have to be done before we get to this tooling, but it is on the radar.

Changes to increase resistance to attacks that attempt to reduce the anonymity set are under discussion (as evidenced here, but on IRC more), so we definitely aren't letting things stay as-is:)

... please understand this is such an edge-case that we're taking about protection from an extremely sophisticated attacker with extremely large access to resources.

Such as a certain 3-letter government agency? These are exactly the people we're trying to keep out. Otherwise we'd just stick to coin-join.

Monero is at least 12 months away from anything close to this, and it's hard to determine when it is "safe enough" for this. My comment was just to point out that to the casual observers, very technical people, and even reasonably sophisticated attackers Monero is already "safe enough". To a more sophisticated attacker, especially the aforementioned 3LAs, there are so many edge cases we need to deal with that it will take time. But in its current form, it already blows CoinJoin out the water.
newbie
Activity: 46
Merit: 0
Try to use the QT GUI wallet.
After importing the wallet I get the following error

Code:
Unable to find 'rpcwallet' or 'simplewallet' exectuables

the  'simplewallet' exectuable is in the same directory as the bitmonero-qt binary
(Ubuntu 14.04 x64)

in the setting of qt gui "i think"
you can set the directory where the executable are

I cannot find any setting
sr. member
Activity: 258
Merit: 250
You can trust me, I have an avatar
Hi Guys,

Just dropping by to let you guys know that Monero is now added to www.lazycoins.com

Check it out - 0% Fees...Enjoy!

https://twitter.com/LazyCoins

I can't see any mention of xmr on your exchange, or your twitter.
hero member
Activity: 795
Merit: 514
... please understand this is such an edge-case that we're taking about protection from an extremely sophisticated attacker with extremely large access to resources.

Such as a certain 3-letter government agency? These are exactly the people we're trying to keep out. Otherwise we'd just stick to coin-join.
hero member
Activity: 795
Merit: 514
I would argue that the ability to "prove" your transaction is not hugely important. Such is the nature of cash. You probably wouldn't want to use cash to make public transactions, nor would you be inclined to use Monero.

We should focus on making XMR as untracable and unlinkable as we can (like cash), while continuing to improve usability, and worry less about these convenience features until the coin is more mature. I truly think it will be a mistake to try to make this a do-it-all, something-for-everybody currency.

For usability's sake, there should be a default ambiguity (that isn't zero. Maybe 1 or 2?). Setting specific levels of ambiguity should be an advanced or custom parameter that the average user shouldn't have to think about for common transactions.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
Because optional transparency is required against corruption.

Take the dev fund for example, dont you want to know what we received? This is a must have...

Ok so lets say that you want to buy some raw milk with out getting black bagged in the middle of the night. You can send the funds, they can look to see if you sent them and then send the product. So if you cant prove that the funds were sent than it is harder to damage the reputation of the seller but you still can. If one seller is getting more negative feedback in general, even with none of those claims having proof, it will still send a signal to people that perhaps they should use a different seller.

Anyway yea obviously there are advantages to being able to prove that a payment was sent. I wont dispute that.
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