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Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1632. (Read 4670614 times)

legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1959
Why is the coin suddenly rebounding back today ?

Because of the news. Didn't you read the news? The market only ever moves on the news.

/thread

Get ready for ....(INSERT FUD HERE)

Wtf are you even talking about? It's up +27.4% from yesterday.

http://www.coinssource.com/monero-interview/
donator
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1036
Why is the coin suddenly rebounding back today ?

Because of the news. Didn't you read the news? The market only ever moves on the news.

/thread

Get ready for ....(INSERT FUD HERE)

Wtf are you even talking about? It's up +27.4% from yesterday.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 500
Why is the coin suddenly rebounding back today ?

Because of the news. Didn't you read the news? The market only ever moves on the news.

/thread

Get ready for ....(INSERT FUD HERE)
donator
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1060
GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com
Why is the coin suddenly rebounding back today ?

Because of the news. Didn't you read the news? The market only ever moves on the news.

/thread
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
Why is the coin suddenly rebounding back today ?
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1012
Still wild and free
Poloniex is considering to add a XMR market.

Just some Trollbox news.

coinup: busoni@poloniex, XMR and poloniex... it's a love story now. Why don't you drop LTC parity for XMR one?

busoni@poloniex:
coinup, it's definitely an idea I'm considering.

coinup was me. Busoni said the LTC market is currently pretty useless to them. From a very practical perspective, they would make more money by switching to XMR.
This is kind of "boom" event if it happens I think, as many newcomers would realize XMR is indeed something big.
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Whimsical Pants
After taking a good look at this coin I'm really wondering why this hasn't been picked up by Cryptsy yet...

They probably don't know how to implement it

It is most certainly the fact the CN coins require implementation as well as the fact they are currently a support drain.

Seems Poloniex and HitBTC are battling it out in the CN space.  HitBTC added ALL the other CN coins.
legendary
Activity: 1321
Merit: 1007
After taking a good look at this coin I'm really wondering why this hasn't been picked up by Cryptsy yet...

They probably don't know how to implement it
legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1000
After taking a good look at this coin I'm really wondering why this hasn't been picked up by Cryptsy yet...
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
Poloniex is considering to add a XMR market.


Poloniex is experiencing problems right now. I have been unable to access in the last 20 minutes.

I have no problems, trollbox and trading works like it should.
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
Poloniex is considering to add a XMR market.

Just some Trollbox news.

coinup: busoni@poloniex, XMR and poloniex... it's a love story now. Why don't you drop LTC parity for XMR one?

busoni@poloniex:
coinup, it's definitely an idea I'm considering.
member
Activity: 119
Merit: 10
Dear Monero devs, please answer this stuff.

My English is not well to understand what does AnonyMint speak about. I just feel, he sheds light on possible fundamental vulnerability that says unlinkability is not compatible with longest chain rule of proof-of-work. I may mistake.

Key images are a unique property of the CryptoNote protocol that prevent double spends.

To quote gmaxwell and andytoshi, one of which is a core Bitcoin developer and the other is someone who truly understands both mathematics and cryptography:

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Double-spending is prevented using a so-called "key image", a novel feature of BRS. The key image is a component of a BRS signature which is determined entirely by the private key used to produce the signature. This means that two signatures which use the same private key, i.e. which try to spend the same coin twice, will have the same key image. Thus preventing double-spending is as easy as ensuring that the same key image never appears twice. (On the other hand, the key image cannot be inverted to obtain the original private key; thus in the absense of double-spending attempts it cannot be used to deanonymize the signature.)

That is the end of this discussion, and I would suggest we not get caught up in random and nonsensical panic attacks just because someone claims a particular flaw exists when it doesn't.

Thank you very much for answer, fluffypony;
smooth, could you add this to FAQ too, as you are likely a thread owner?
donator
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1060
GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com
Dear Monero devs, please answer this stuff.

My English is not well to understand what does AnonyMint speak about. I just feel, he sheds light on possible fundamental vulnerability that says unlinkability is not compatible with longest chain rule of proof-of-work. I may mistake.

Key images are a unique property of the CryptoNote protocol that prevent double spends.

To quote gmaxwell and andytoshi, one of which is a core Bitcoin developer and the other is someone who truly understands both mathematics and cryptography:

Quote
Double-spending is prevented using a so-called "key image", a novel feature of BRS. The key image is a component of a BRS signature which is determined entirely by the private key used to produce the signature. This means that two signatures which use the same private key, i.e. which try to spend the same coin twice, will have the same key image. Thus preventing double-spending is as easy as ensuring that the same key image never appears twice. (On the other hand, the key image cannot be inverted to obtain the original private key; thus in the absense of double-spending attempts it cannot be used to deanonymize the signature.)

That is the end of this discussion, and I would suggest we not get caught up in random and nonsensical panic attacks just because someone claims a particular flaw exists when it doesn't.
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
This may have already been covered, but has anyone addressed the problem that AnonyMint has brought up? He seems like a very smart guy, and this should be worth looking into.

This is very preliminary, but it appears to me that all anonymous coins based on unlinkability will not be able to solve the very serious double-spend threat.

If am correct, this is both a major and fundamental solution for longest chain rule of proof-of-work, but it also eliminates unlinkability as a anonymity solution.

Sorry to say. Again this is preliminary, and needs more peer review.

Dear Monero devs, please answer this stuff.

My English is not well to understand what does AnonyMint speak about. I just feel, he sheds light on possible fundamental vulnerability that says unlinkability is not compatible with longest chain rule of proof-of-work. I may mistake.


He's referring to the fact that private transactions are not compatible with one particular tweak he has come up with for how blockchains work. His tweak is not a generally accepted method at all, nor it is generally accepted that such a tweak is needed to address the issues raised (though this does not necessarily imply the opposite), and is not implemented in any coin whatsoever.

tldr: not relevant to any existing coin

legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198

It refers to a well known privacy issue on CN coins. We've had a fix for this in the development for weeks now after corresponding with a Bitcoin core devs that should be more effective than the solution for Boolberry, we're just waiting until the core of the software is more mature before we roll it out.

tacotime, it's very important to put this answer sticky this thread or somewhere std. FAQ location!

Otherwise, newbies are coming and asking it again and again, to test our patience.

Dear newbies, read tacotime's answer twice, Monero devs are much more academic guys than you suppose, so they do know what things to go when.

Added to FAQ thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-unofficial-xmr-community-monero-faq-thread-686086
member
Activity: 119
Merit: 10
This may have already been covered, but has anyone addressed the problem that AnonyMint has brought up? He seems like a very smart guy, and this should be worth looking into.

This is very preliminary, but it appears to me that all anonymous coins based on unlinkability will not be able to solve the very serious double-spend threat.

If am correct, this is both a major and fundamental solution for longest chain rule of proof-of-work, but it also eliminates unlinkability as a anonymity solution.

Sorry to say. Again this is preliminary, and needs more peer review.

Dear Monero devs, please answer this stuff.

My English is not well to understand what does AnonyMint speak about. I just feel, he sheds light on possible fundamental vulnerability that says unlinkability is not compatible with longest chain rule of proof-of-work. I may mistake.
r05
full member
Activity: 193
Merit: 100
test cryptocoin please ignore

It refers to a well known privacy issue on CN coins. We've had a fix for this in the development for weeks now after corresponding with a Bitcoin core devs that should be more effective than the solution for Boolberry, we're just waiting until the core of the software is more mature before we roll it out.

tacotime, it's very important to put this answer sticky this thread or somewhere std. FAQ location!

Otherwise, newbies are coming and asking it again and again, to test our patience.

Dear newbies, read tacotime's answer twice, Monero devs are much more academic guys than you suppose, so they do know what things to go when.


It is very reassuring when replies like this are given. Definitely needs to be added to the FAQ.
member
Activity: 119
Merit: 10

It refers to a well known privacy issue on CN coins. We've had a fix for this in the development for weeks now after corresponding with a Bitcoin core devs that should be more effective than the solution for Boolberry, we're just waiting until the core of the software is more mature before we roll it out.

tacotime, it's very important to put this answer sticky this thread or somewhere std. FAQ location!

Otherwise, newbies are coming and asking it again and again, to test our patience.

Dear newbies, read tacotime's answer twice, Monero devs are much more academic guys than you suppose, so they do know what things to go when.

legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Whimsical Pants
Hitbtc reminds me of Bter for some reason. Both good exchanges nevertheless.

I hold accounts at both and do arbitrage at times.  I execute lots of trades. 

HitBTC is simply superior.  They seem highly reliable, fast, and the overall fees are better.
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