Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1667. (Read 4670972 times)

Then it means you've already tried to create a transaction with the utxo's. They'll fall out the mempool within 24 hours, and you can rebuild the wallet cache to give you access to the utxo's again.

Wow mintpal! What a cheater.... dropped at 0.00250004 and my order is just at 0.00250003 

It's because your balance was made up of lots of small transactions coming in, so when you tried to send it out, the tx size was too big and the withdrawal failed.

Think of it this way, you have a friend who is going to give you 10kg of weight with his bare hands. Imagine he gives you one 10kg metal block. This is easy to hold and move around because it's just one big lump (one transaction).

Now imagine he tries to give you 10kg of fine sand (e.g lots of little bits that together make up 10kg). You can't hold this in your hand or move it around very easily. You can only move as much of this sand as you can fit into your hands at once, so it takes you many handfuls to move the 10kg (many transactions). Does that make sense?

It's in the OP and in the first Monero Missive: (in no particular order) - tacotime, eizh, smooth, fluffypony, othe, davidlatapie, NoodleDoodle

Could you list the forum id of core team members?

When what hits? If you have a lot of coins you will, by definition, be able to consolidate them. You were able to move ALL of your coins and are struggling with the final 1.6 XMR. As mentioned, I will gladly send you 1.656924551683 XMR and I will reclaim it from the wallet you have sent me when the fee changes later on.

I can understand that - no one wants to lose their hard-earned coins! Apologies for accusing you of trolling.

You won't have this problem if you keep mining in the future as all pools now have a 0.2 XMR minimum send, so you should be able to do large transactions (100+ XMR) from your wallet all in one go without having to split it up and pay extra transaction fees. If you post your Monero address, I can give you a small tip to make up for any transaction fees you had to pay.

You're not in #monero-dev on IRC to discuss the dev status of Monero, so it's hard for me to accept that you have any insight into the state of Monero. We are far from sluggish. All 7 of the core team members have to earn a living. Each of us can spend 14 hours a day on Monero, but then we need to draw an hourly payment to cover our time. Thus far we have received well under 1 BTC in donations, a trivial amount. That means that all of our time and energy and effort is completely self-funded.

We are not sitting on mountains of XMR, this is a cryptocurrency that had an absolutely 100% fair launch. Given the current size of the cryptocurrency market I would argue that it had an even fairer launch than Bitcoin, because tons of people jumped on and mined it from day 1. We had no opportunity to amass any sizeable amount of XMR. Thus, our entire effort is a labour of love and completely because we want to see XMR become useful. If we get no donations, we are unable to spend large amounts of time on it, and we will have to peck away at it in our spare time. If you want to see less "sluggishness" (i.e. more time allocated), then donate. If you haven't donated you have absolutely no room to manoeuvre in this discussion.


The embedded database work is in progress (see: https://github.com/tewinget/bitmonero/tree/blockchain), and the existing binaries work with PAE on, so "obsolete" is not the correct term. The 32-bit Windows binaries work. The PAE requirement is noted on the OP now.


Feel free to make one, or feel free to donate to free someone's time up so they can make this, but this is not at a stage where it is newbie-friendly yet, and is in such a state of flux that this would be a complete waste of effort.


Official site is being replaced, so this would be wasted effort. Even so, HTML markup errors are rather irrelevant given the state of browsing in 2014 - virtually all the sites on the Internet don't comply with the W3C's markup validation, but render just fine.


With the aforementioned donations, it's enough to cover 1 day of a "special man" sitting here and answering questions. If you want that to change, donate.


See above. But over and above that, the Monero Missive is a weekly update. There is no fixed day that it comes out - it can come out any time from Monday to Sunday, but there is one a week. If we skip an entire week then your "1-2 day delay" would be valid, else go back and confirm that from the first Missive there has been 1 a week.

Little bit late for "add a note to the OP", because i am solving this my little problem about a week. First then where were sync problems, i succeed, i synced. I had a thought to sent all 6 XMR for safety to one of exchanges, because of this error, but lagged there were no info about out of memory future  :|

Ok i am here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-unofficial-xmr-community-monero-faq-thread-686086, i believe there is no unhackable things in the world ...

Ok I gave a helpful answer and you just totally ignored the fact that the bug is going to be fixed and fluffypony offered to send you all of your coins (because they're not actually lost like you claim!).

I gave you the benefit of the doubt because I want to help folk not so familiar with Monero but I guess you're just trolling?

It's not a PR problem, I think you're misattributing what "PR" is. This is alpha-level software that requires a technical person with the ability to enable PAE to run. Eventually it will exit the alpha stage and be beta-level software with decidedly more usability (including bandwidth and memory requirements).

Per the discussion on #monero-dev we will add a note to the OP that 32-bit binaries are not recommended and they require PAE.

This is strange given how many experienced crypto people (senior and hero members) there supposedly are supporting xmr. I guess they are those who got lucky being there early with bitcoin and think doing just the same here i.e. buying their share of coins and sitting on the wallet is enough.

Community FAQ thread is here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-unofficial-xmr-community-monero-faq-thread-686086

Anyone can contribute questions and/or answers (submitting both together is preferred)

Yes, this is freaking out fucking big PR problem, that Windows 32-bits binaries http://monero.cc/downloads/monero.win.x86.latest.zip (0.8.8, updated: June 11th) run out of memory without official notice.

They are, sort of, in the sense that it was reported to run out of memory upon reaching a certain block number (and therefore fail to sync to the entire current block chain). I have not confirmed whether this is correct though.

A work around would probably be to configure 32-bit Windows to 3 GB user space mode, but that is non-standard.

32 bit binaries are not obsolete.

Could you please write down FAQ's I will answer them/get answers for them and then send to someone who can add them to the correct places.

This goes for you and everyone else Who has the ability to create a nice website like the other cn/alt coins? Im sure someone round here has templates that would be simple to add the desired information to. This is an open source project so anyone and everyone can contribute. Lets get this ball rolling.

There doesn't need to be a "special man" newbie questions get answered perfectly fine in the thread by a range of users, the devs are extremely busy it stands to reason that they cant sit on BCT all day.

The problem was that you mined lots of small 'dust' transactions to your wallet address before the minimum send amount was implemented into the pool code. This will result in a transaction that is too large to broadcast when you try to withdraw all your coins because it is taking lots of tiny fractional coin amounts.

The pools are fixed now and core devs are working on automatic transaction splitting so this won't be an issue in future wallet versions. Fluffypony offered to send you your entire balance in one lump sum so you no longer have this issue (back on pg 479). Just provide him with a wallet address to send it to.

My opinion about botnets. Their creators are smarter and more enterprising than average median people. So because of rank distributon biologically proven, total number of botnet creators is small, actually few people in the world, because of Monero is not popular as Bitcoin yet.

So given botnet creators are smart people, their decision about short-term selling is smart too.

Let's look things in the face, currently no coin can compete Bitcoin.

Monero could, but their devs are too sluggish, and the same time do not accept neither help nor critics:
- 32 bit obsolete Windows binaries are still sticky at 1st page this thread
- No newbie's FAQ is ever made (who can support price if not newbies?!)
- Official site has still html markup errors.
- There is no special man to answer newbies questions here officially from face of Monero team.
- Even missives come with 1-2 day delay. This delay is more important than it appears, because time regularity of Monero missives is the ONLY thing Monero devs promise us.

Meanwhile there are some 40 days till LTC/2 block reward happens!!!

This is the ultimate time window, when market decides Monero to live & replace LTC or to die & forget.

No you have that exactly wrong. Difficulty tells you how many hashes you have to do (on average) for each block (not per day -- your formula is fundamentally incorrect).

Go back and recalculate with difficulty correctly applied per block and you will get different (correct) results.

Interesting perhaps, BCN difficulty spiked up quite a bit after my previous post (maybe the botnet owners are learning something here), but it is still more profitable than XMR.


And what I told you is that if you look at almost every single coin chart, it looks the same. Some have botnets, some don't. The trend for almost every coin is generally a slow downtrend, except when there is some sort of spark to speculative interest that drives it up.

This is the nature of mining -- it doesn't really matter who mines the coins or how many people compete to mine, the supply is fixed and constant. What varies (and therefore determines price) is demand.


Of course. Nobody is praising botnets here. As long as they exist though, they operate within the same economic laws as any other miners. When I say I consider them to be just another form of mining rig, I mean that in terms of economics, not morality.

Ok, my estimates are (leaving out orphans, block penatlies, etc.):

Daily emission (from minergate.com and monerochain.info):
BCN: 79,200,000
XMR: 23,000

Difficulty (from Bytecoin.org and monerochain.info):
BCN: 103,000,000
XMR: 800,000,000

Price (from Poloniex):
BCN: 0.00000007
XMR: 0.0029

Mining revenue adjusted for the difficulty = (Daily emission / difficulty) * Price:
BCN: 0.0000000846318306326
XMR: 0.0000000868489583333

Difficulty is already adjusted for different block time, so no need to discount on it. This makes XMR a more profitable target for botnet owners. And yesterday when I did the same calculations, XMR price was higher, BCN difficulty 20M lower. That is why it was 10% higher for XMR.



What I was trying to say is that botnets should be considered unworthy and frowned upon for CPU coins as they rip off regular miners. And they're illegal by the way.
And yes, if there are a lot of botnet miners selling, the supply side will prevail over the demand and the coin is likely to have a negative trend (recheck XMR price charts of the last week). And this is exactly the thought I've been trying to tell you for the last 4 pages.