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Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1744. (Read 4670610 times)

legendary
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Whimsical Pants
So, I've just done some math and I pray to the moon god that I'm not missing something massively important...
but a week or two ago, I mined XMR for ~4 days in a pool at about ~100khs (quite a bit of fluctuation, actually) and I apparently made ~4 XMR.

I was thinking about buying a 5mhz scrypt miner tomorrow. If I had used a 5mhz miner for those 4 days instead, the math tells me I would have made ~400 XMR...

..the miner would have paid for itself, plus another couple hundred dollars.

Am I dreaming.

Someone explain what I'm missing. I only got into crypto a month ago.

Scrypt miners will not work with cryptonote afaik.
member
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So, I've just done some math and I pray to the moon god that I'm not missing something massively important...
but a week or two ago, I mined XMR for ~4 days in a pool at about ~100khs (quite a bit of fluctuation, actually) and I apparently made ~4 XMR.

I was thinking about buying a 5mhz scrypt miner tomorrow. If I had used a 5mhz miner for those 4 days instead, the math tells me I would have made ~400 XMR...

..the miner would have paid for itself, plus another couple hundred dollars.

Am I dreaming.

Someone explain what I'm missing. I only got into crypto a month ago.
legendary
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While I completely understand your points and thoughts, this is actually 100% the wrong strategy. So many engineers and other technology workers make this mistake all the time. They think that its enough to build something superior technically, and the marketing will just happen and success will just happen. I see it all the time in the VC work I do in Silicon Valley. Its a huge error.

Market opportunity is a fleeting thing. VHS beat out BetaMax but BetaMax was much better technology. But VHS won because it was simpler and had much better marketing.

The Monero community and the devs especially, need to understand that time is not a luxury, and that marketing and ease of use are not unnecessary for success. There is only a small window of opportunity here to gain serious momentum and mindshare. After that some other coin (BBR, or new competitor) that has basically the same feature set but with an easy to use wallet and ecosystem that is actively marketed and promoted will win and XMR will be nothing but an also ran.

I love XMR's potential, but until the devs really understand the need for speed and the need for ease of use and the need for active marketing now while the iron is hot, they are in danger of choosing the exact wrong approach to success.

If you want to change the world, then XMR needs to be so easy that anyone can buy XMR and transfer it with no learning of any kind. It just works. If XMR can't do it, then some other competitor will and XMR will lose the window to become number one. Because once a coin ends up being THE coin of choice for anonymous transactions its game over for all the others.

The problem is that the reference code (especially the wallet) is still buggy as all hell and behaves unpredictably. All the CN code has these problems right. Building a GUI wallet isn't the hard part, making it robustly functional is. This is financial software, if things behave unexpectedly people lose their money and their shit, which is much worse for a cryptocurrency in the long run.

There are a couple alpha GUIs right now, probably the most mature is this Windows one if you want to play with it: https://github.com/Jojatekok/monero-client/releases
legendary
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Whimsical Pants
Looking forward to the MRO pump on MintPal

Are we sure we haven't seen it already?

Monero isn't even on Mintpal yet, idiot. It's #1 on voting list, #1's get added every Monday, today is Wednesday. That means Monero is going to get added Next Monday, idiot.
I'm pretty sure he is trying to say that since the market expect XMR to be added to mintpal the market will already have priced this in, thus there won't be further spike than we have seen, in fact the price may decline since the expected pump fails to emerge.

I personally think we'll see a spike higher than we seen last few days since adding it to mintpal will expose more people to monero.

I get what he's trying to say, and it doesn't make any sense. That's not how markets work. Poloniex/Bittrex are very small exchanges compared to Mintpal. After Poloniex's recent hacking, I'm sure many many users Do not user Poloniex now, and I've only heard of Bittrex about a week ago..

Mintpal has a huge user base, making it very unlikely that the recent rise in price was factored in because Monero might get added to Mintpal...Learn marketing cAPSLOCK..It only went up because of the small Poloniex userbase that is holding/buying Monero. Wait until Monero is on Mintpal, with a MUCH bigger userbase..

I didn't like being called an idiot back then very much... but I knew then as I do now who the idiot is.

Buying back in now.

Devs... please keep on truckin.
sr. member
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bye monero.farm  Cry

what happened to payouts? He owes me 3XMR.
full member
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Mintpal, the dumptruck of promising coins.

i wish xmr will be good in the future.
newbie
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While I completely understand your points and thoughts, this is actually 100% the wrong strategy. So many engineers and other technology workers make this mistake all the time. They think that its enough to build something superior technically, and the marketing will just happen and success will just happen. I see it all the time in the VC work I do in Silicon Valley. Its a huge error.

Market opportunity is a fleeting thing. VHS beat out BetaMax but BetaMax was much better technology. But VHS won because it was simpler and had much better marketing.

The Monero community and the devs especially, need to understand that time is not a luxury, and that marketing and ease of use are not unnecessary for success. There is only a small window of opportunity here to gain serious momentum and mindshare. After that some other coin (BBR, or new competitor) that has basically the same feature set but with an easy to use wallet and ecosystem that is actively marketed and promoted will win and XMR will be nothing but an also ran.

I love XMR's potential, but until the devs really understand the need for speed and the need for ease of use and the need for active marketing now while the iron is hot, they are in danger of choosing the exact wrong approach to success.

If you want to change the world, then XMR needs to be so easy that anyone can buy XMR and transfer it with no learning of any kind. It just works. If XMR can't do it, then some other competitor will and XMR will lose the window to become number one. Because once a coin ends up being THE coin of choice for anonymous transactions its game over for all the others.


Monero is doing what exactly needs to be doing. Being anonymous and not being wannabe anonymous. It is doing this right now and not in the future and is not closed source. I really dont care if it is noob friendly right now.

Right now it doesnt need to be mainstream. Have you seen any marketing? Getting mainstream too fast will just make it a pump and dump after all...
sr. member
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Knowledge is Power
Mintpal, the dumptruck of promising coins.
sr. member
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"Trading Platform of The Future!"
bye monero.farm  Cry
legendary
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legendary
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dumptruck beep beep

Oh finally!

I can't wait until the people holding this just for pumping get out and the 0.002's come back. I'm ready. Smiley
sr. member
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dumptruck beep beep
legendary
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Was no one else who is posting over the last week or so paying attention during the original run?  Monero got a high market cap after darkcoin blew up because it has attractive anonymity components.  Then people decided it wasn't practical due to block chain bloat, etc.  The price fell like 75%.  

Then somehow people forgot or ignored everything that was decided during the first round and it went way up again.  I read probably the majority of posts after the last several weeks and no one talks about those original problems.

If you think those underlying issues will get fixed (by Monero vs. another cryptonote coin), it's a pretty awesome investment.  If you have no idea what I'm talking about I probably would be more careful with your money.


Let's assume eventually the monero blockchain is 5 times larger than bitcoin. Is that worth full anonymity? Kind of like how bitcoin is more bloat than MasterCard but you deal with it anyway because the benefits outweigh the bloat.

That is how I see it. You've got two choices. A chain larger than bitcoin but with full anonymity or not.
hero member
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Na Zdorovie!
Bittrex can not ask payment_id and i try send to mintpal 238 XMR and lost Sad

Please help.


Realize that many exchanges are using 1 address for all deposits. The only distinguishing factor is the payment id.

There have been tons of warnings saying do not forget to add payment id. Your next step is to contact Mintpal directly, I am sure they dealt with this a few times already.

Also keep the tx info to yourself, because someone else can go to Mintpal and say it was them.

Submissions deleted. Thank you for your support. I open support tickets to Mintpal and Bittrex ..
DFJ
newbie
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Was no one else who is posting over the last week or so paying attention during the original run?  Monero got a high market cap after darkcoin blew up because it has attractive anonymity components.  Then people decided it wasn't practical due to block chain bloat, etc.  The price fell like 75%.  

Then somehow people forgot or ignored everything that was decided during the first round and it went way up again.  I read probably the majority of posts after the last several weeks and no one talks about those original problems.

If you think those underlying issues will get fixed (by Monero vs. another cryptonote coin), it's a pretty awesome investment.  If you have no idea what I'm talking about I probably would be more careful with your money.
sr. member
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Bittrex can not ask payment_id and i try send to mintpal 238 XMR and lost Sad

Please help.




In the past Poloniex and Bittrex support tended to be quite helpful when ppl made this sort of error, if you provide Mintpal support with all the tx info they should be able to refund you.

But really? You were transferring over 1btc worth of XMR to Mintpal and you didnt bother reading the instruction which says "you must have a payment ID"!! I know Monero isnt at the Apple level of user friendliness and intuitive design but it has a helpful community, if you're not sure what you are doing then do a bit more research or ask someone...

EDIT: removed the txid from quote, really you dont want to share that at the moment, welcome to a really anonymous currency Smiley
legendary
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Bittrex can not ask payment_id and i try send to mintpal 238 XMR and lost Sad

Please help.


Realize that many exchanges are using 1 address for all deposits. The only distinguishing factor is the payment id.

There have been tons of warnings saying do not forget to add payment id. Your next step is to contact Mintpal directly, I am sure they dealt with this a few times already.

Also keep the tx info to yourself, because someone else can go to Mintpal and say it was them.
hero member
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Na Zdorovie!
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