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Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1745. (Read 4670610 times)

legendary
Activity: 1624
Merit: 1008
My withdrawal issue of 9 hours ago was due to Poloniex not Monero.

The withdrawal has been credited back to my account.

legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1000
103 days, 21 hours and 10 minutes.
I'll call .035 the bottom
sr. member
Activity: 502
Merit: 251
balls to the wall, im buying here under .005

load up the truck while you can, a few months from now you'll be sitting pretty.
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Who cares?
back up the truck, it's finally cheaper to buy than to mine.

I think we're going lower
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1001
Is anyone here able to help me with the wallet?
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1030
Sine secretum non libertas
back up the truck, it's finally cheaper to buy than to mine.
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Who cares?
This whole board has turned into a trollbox  Cheesy
member
Activity: 103
Merit: 10
the floor is reached Wink
hero member
Activity: 503
Merit: 500
Na Zdorovie!
Edit: Info deleted.
legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1959
holy shit this is getting dumped hard..  Huh Huh

fuck it. stay on the coaster. it will pay off. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1001
I held XMR but sold - I cant stress enough how this coin is not ready for mainstream. Reliability / Command line driven and lack of infrastructure will drag the price down further..

Yes the anonymity is good but the underlying solution is too complex to use and under-developed. Give it another 6-12 months yes maybe, but as it stands the solution is not viable.

Its an utter joke, ive just tried to send a transaction and it did nothing in the GUI wallet, and ive tried dimplewallet and i just get the message that the transaction size is too big!

Whats going on???
full member
Activity: 166
Merit: 100
I held XMR but sold - I cant stress enough how this coin is not ready for mainstream. Reliability / Command line driven and lack of infrastructure will drag the price down further..

Yes the anonymity is good but the underlying solution is too complex to use and under-developed. Give it another 6-12 months yes maybe, but as it stands the solution is not viable.

I agree.

Monero is Too Technical: trade price will be affected without a simpler wallet.
Forum Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7478215
legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1000
I held XMR but sold - I cant stress enough how this coin is not ready for mainstream. Reliability / Command line driven and lack of infrastructure will drag the price down further..

Yes the anonymity is good but the underlying solution is too complex to use and under-developed. Give it another 6-12 months yes maybe, but as it stands the solution is not viable.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
holy shit this is getting dumped hard..  Huh Huh
sr. member
Activity: 770
Merit: 250
I could lend a hand in creating such websites if any members here would like to suggest ideas Smiley
Well on its way, but thank you for your offer :-)

Ok yw, no problem  Grin
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 503
Monero Core Team
I could lend a hand in creating such websites if any members here would like to suggest ideas Smiley
Well on its way, but thank you for your offer :-)
newbie
Activity: 47
Merit: 0
Does anyone knows how much time it takes to receive a deposit in bter?

I am waiting for 90 minutes already, is it normal?

Still nothing..

Same problem with Bter:
Yesterday I did 3 deposits from poloniex to Bter without any problems, I found them less than 30 minutes later at my account. But the next deposit - done same way - is still not arrived (nearly 24 hours).

I wrote to the support 8 hours later and sent a reminder this morning, but -  as you may guess - I got no answer.

Iam somewhat pissed, because it was an amount, which eats my former winnings and somewhat more completly, if I will not get them.

I recommend, to send no XMR to Bter, untill this issue is solved.

To get any support from Bter, you have to chat with them on QQ

Hm...

My skills in Mandarin are tending to zero...

gotta work through it, they speak very broken english, but you can try to understand what they are saying.

You can copy and paste using Google translate to understand what the words mean

Problem solved!


I got an answer to my request and the missing XMR are now on my account.

Finally I am very pleased with the support of Bter.
sr. member
Activity: 770
Merit: 250
No crypto is mainstream.  Bitcoin is not mainstream.  Bitcoin is not in a good position with respect to usability.  It is light-years ahead of Monero, of course.

The market trajectory of the coin is going to be crucial to achieving its full potential.  Please don't belittle efforts to advance the value of the coin.  Ideally, it would
advance with as little draw-down as possible.  This would tend to discourage p&d much better than would a sequence of events amenable to hype, which
would tend to serve that agenda, would help to create an impression of relative price stability/predictability, and advance confidence in the coin.

The default assumption is, reasonably, that any new coin is a scam.  Monero is proving itself, in gradual due course, on the development track, but the finance track
is equally necessary to take this train to its desired destination.  Finance is very much a confidence game, and anything we can do to increase value and reduce
price volatility will do heroic service to secure that crucial confidence.  We need allies in finance, in business, in entrepreneurial ventures, &c.

I understand that when one invests a great deal of your sweat or treasure into a project, one can get defensive.  Especially in a hostile environment, subject to
all manner of attack, from libel and slander to hacking to financial raids, it is easy to become sensitized to the dangers.  But constructive criticism, which will come
from diverse areas of expertise and emphasis, is very valuable.  Let's please take care not to discourage it, while defending against an imaginary threat out of habit.

Further: On the finance side the pecuniary interests of commentators are likely to be prominent.  That's okay.  This project is not a zero-sum game.  Its success will
improve life for millions of people, in myriad ways, and many of them will see financial gain.  Win-win scenarios like this are very difficult to find in this world.
It is a privilege to participate in such, and both a privilege and a blessing of gain to share it with others.  Habits which are trained in more hostile competitive domains are
well suited to interaction with hostile competitors, but the fewer of those which the Monero project has, the more fully and rapidly it will achieve its best potential.



Nicely said(Yes, I read the whole thing Tongue)

Monero atm needs more:

Well done websites based off of it, whether that be forums, help sites, casino sites, e-commerce sites, etc

I could lend a hand in creating such websites if any members here would like to suggest ideas Smiley
full member
Activity: 179
Merit: 100
Glow Like Dat
the pool monero.farm is scam me, my address is:473wKLtpYiAj6pUHQ6XbK3cTnVSmjZvy3ZJ9BgvU7Mr2MFLGQMv3YTSQqtRXEyB7WiLePZVpXVus3Vj 8WMdkm9EGMHaXqvB
about 0.96 XMR don't pay
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1030
Sine secretum non libertas
No crypto is mainstream.  Bitcoin is not mainstream.  Bitcoin is not in a good position with respect to usability.  It is light-years ahead of Monero, of course.

The market trajectory of the coin is going to be crucial to achieving its full potential.  Please don't belittle efforts to advance the value of the coin.  Ideally, it would
advance with as little draw-down as possible.  This would tend to discourage p&d much better than would a sequence of events amenable to hype, which
would tend to serve that agenda, would help to create an impression of relative price stability/predictability, and advance confidence in the coin.

The default assumption is, reasonably, that any new coin is a scam.  Monero is proving itself, in gradual due course, on the development track, but the finance track
is equally necessary to take this train to its desired destination.  Finance is very much a confidence game, and anything we can do to increase value and reduce
price volatility will do heroic service to secure that crucial confidence.  We need allies in finance, in business, in entrepreneurial ventures, &c.

I understand that when one invests a great deal of your sweat or treasure into a project, one can get defensive.  Especially in a hostile environment, subject to
all manner of attack, from libel and slander to hacking to financial raids, it is easy to become sensitized to the dangers.  But constructive criticism, which will come
from diverse areas of expertise and emphasis, is very valuable.  Let's please take care not to discourage it, while defending against an imaginary threat out of habit.

Further: On the finance side the pecuniary interests of commentators are likely to be prominent.  That's okay.  This project is not a zero-sum game.  Its success will
improve life for millions of people, in myriad ways, and many of them will see financial gain.  Win-win scenarios like this are very difficult to find in this world.
It is a privilege to participate in such, and both a privilege and a blessing of gain to share it with others.  Habits which are trained in more hostile competitive domains are
well suited to interaction with hostile competitors, but the fewer of those which the Monero project has, the more fully and rapidly it will achieve its best potential.

Regarding valuation, a rational time-discounting valuation using a quantity theory model will assign radically different valuations depending on the probability of a given
level of market penetration.  If Monero achieves its maximum potential in the long-run with 100% probability, it is clearly grossly undervalued today.  But if you assign a
very low probability of success, or a much lower high-water mark, or a much higher probability of catastrophic failure, well it is impossible to say whether it is undervalued
or overvalued without parameterizing the model.  The fact is, the market places a current value on it today, and will place some other value on it tomorrow.  It is silly
to call it undervalued or overvalued without a coherent and rigorously parameterized performance model.  We can accept that the default assumption that Monero is
another doomed scam coin will lead many to consider it overvalued.  Just remember that it is a silly error, and that you can take advantage of it, if in fact it is much
more, and much more likely to succeed, than a naive observer would assume.

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