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Topic: ★ ZEIT ★ [COMMUNITY & KNIGHTS] [ULTRA LOW INFLATION] [MICRO-PAYMENTS] - page 716. (Read 1009280 times)

legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
Official Zeitcoin community ambassador
i think the event is a small setback, nothing thats going to stop Zeitcoin or our intentions towards the movement


be understanding of their lack of understanding and lets work towards bettering it.

this will force us to form our own community and get directly involved in doing things

im sure you have all heard of activism before

That will be our official stance now Anonymousg64 what is a movement except a bunch of liked minded individuals pushing society forward in a positive capacity.

We would like to hear from any members on any Charities they feel fit within the confines of what we are trying to achieve and we will contact them to start accepting ZEIT as donations.

Stay Strong this is our movement...

Every April I do a 100 mile bicycle ride in support of the American Diabetes Association. It's called Tour de Cure. I'm pretty sure the ADA doesn't deal in any cryptocurrency, but I'll do some digging.
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 510
I would like to offer a 5 Million ZEIT for someone to create us an official Forum for us that we will integrate into our own website.

This will be our new movement headquarters where we can discuss how to utilize this crypto currency to benefit humanity.

This can be turned into a positive if we can demonstrate the value of a decentralized currency and how it can be used, we could change their mind. Even if TZM does not officially support us they can support our own initiatives to do with this coin what we wanted to do with them.

It is time to show this world what a group of dedicated people can do!
member
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Merit: 10
I think we should make an appeal directly to the members, correct me if my understanding is wrong, but was this a board of a few people who sat down and made a decision on behalf of the thousands of members of the movement?  
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
Official Zeitcoin community ambassador
We received this today from our contact we were speaking with.


Hey,

Sorry to say, the global coordinators do not like the idea of alternative currencies - they believe it is against the message of the movement and are also concerned about fraud. I can really see the idea behind getting alternative currencies going, especially from a 'transition' standpoint, but unfortunately because we are hosting the international event, they have the final say. If you want to come to ZDay or one of the after parties in order to debate its merits with people in the movement you are welcome to do that. The movement has definitely become more strict in terms of drawing lines around what can be labelled officially 'Zeitgeist' and what cannot.

Sorry again Sad


We will be attending the event to combat their stance however our new initiatives will be to start donating ZEIT to related charitable organizations that still stay within the means of the Zeitgeist Movements ideals.

Stay Tuned we don't need their movement to create our own! Once we start these initiatives we hope that they come to their senses and start to stray away from their antiquated values and start to enforce their actual beliefs which are

"The movement is loyal to a train of thought, not figures or institutions. The view held is that through the use of socially targeted research and tested understandings in science and technology, we are now able to logically arrive at societal applications that could be profoundly more effective in meeting the needs of the human population, increasing public health. There is little reason to assume war, poverty, most crime and many other monetarily-based scarcity effects common in our current model cannot be resolved over time. The range of the movement's activism and awareness campaigns extend from short to long term, with methods based explicitly on non-violent methods of communication."

It sounds an awful lot like the "global coordinators" have lost sight of what the movement is about. I believe that cryptocurrency has the ability to put people on a level playing field (within reason, of course). What I mean by that is, give me and Warren Buffet the exact same mining rig, mining on the exact same pool at the exact same Mh/s and for the exact same amount of time, then, theoretically, he and I would mine the same amount of coins. So, as far as cryptocurrency is concerned, he and I would possess the exact same amount of wealth. And, as long as cryptocurrency remains unregulated by any government or bank, then that keeps the control in the hands of the people, and out of the hands of the global elite. For now, anyway.
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 510
i think the event is a small setback, nothing thats going to stop Zeitcoin or our intentions towards the movement


be understanding of their lack of understanding and lets work towards bettering it.

this will force us to form our own community and get directly involved in doing things

im sure you have all heard of activism before

That will be our official stance now Anonymousg64 what is a movement except a bunch of liked minded individuals pushing society forward in a positive capacity.

We would like to hear from any members on any Charities they feel fit within the confines of what we are trying to achieve and we will contact them to start accepting ZEIT as donations.

Stay Strong this is our movement...
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
i think the event is a small setback, nothing thats going to stop Zeitcoin or our intentions towards the movement


be understanding of their lack of understanding and lets work towards bettering it.

this will force us to form our own community and get directly involved in doing things

im sure you have all heard of activism before
full member
Activity: 151
Merit: 100
I love this image and thought here would be a nice place to share it.


very childish interpretation

I am in full agreement that we need a shared and open source world and am working towards that, but trading is not inherently corrupt, your forgetting that its the system built around trading that is corruption generating. aka forcing people to use money is evil, not money itself, let alone a decentralized crypto currency.

we need to take power away from the system, this is exactly what crypto-currency does.


i expect TZM to use all technology at its disposal toward its ends.

The reference I was pointing out here was the open source and co-operative nature of p2p coins dude. I did not mean it to come across as negative.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
what do the devs have to say about these events please? who have you spoken too exactly and who is this person that has written this article?
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 510
We received this today from our contact we were speaking with.


Hey,

Sorry to say, the global coordinators do not like the idea of alternative currencies - they believe it is against the message of the movement and are also concerned about fraud. I can really see the idea behind getting alternative currencies going, especially from a 'transition' standpoint, but unfortunately because we are hosting the international event, they have the final say. If you want to come to ZDay or one of the after parties in order to debate its merits with people in the movement you are welcome to do that. The movement has definitely become more strict in terms of drawing lines around what can be labelled officially 'Zeitgeist' and what cannot.

Sorry again Sad


We will be attending the event to combat their stance however our new initiatives will be to start donating ZEIT to related charitable organizations that still stay within the means of the Zeitgeist Movements ideals.

Stay Tuned we don't need their movement to create our own! Once we start these initiatives we hope that they come to their senses and start to stray away from their antiquated values and start to enforce their actual beliefs which are

"The movement is loyal to a train of thought, not figures or institutions. The view held is that through the use of socially targeted research and tested understandings in science and technology, we are now able to logically arrive at societal applications that could be profoundly more effective in meeting the needs of the human population, increasing public health. There is little reason to assume war, poverty, most crime and many other monetarily-based scarcity effects common in our current model cannot be resolved over time. The range of the movement's activism and awareness campaigns extend from short to long term, with methods based explicitly on non-violent methods of communication."
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
I love this image and thought here would be a nice place to share it.


very childish interpretation

I am in full agreement that we need a shared and open source world and am working towards that, but trading is not inherently corrupt, your forgetting that its the system built around trading that is corruption generating. aka forcing people to use money is evil, not money itself, let alone a decentralized crypto currency.

we need to take power away from the system, this is exactly what crypto-currency does.


i expect TZM to use all technology at its disposal toward its ends.
full member
Activity: 134
Merit: 101
https://www.facebook.com/tzmglobal Follow the page and see what is happening in TZM.. lets tell them we all at the same side.. I can see that; some big things going to happen in TZM in these days.. Wink
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 500
Hi all
 can we have some volunteers please to test the new zeit source code, we do not need your #rate for long just until we find 3-4 blocks so we can check the stats, please set your account to auto payout as the server will be closed after this happens, many thanks.
   http://109.107.37.250/MPOS/public/index.php?page=dashboard

  i can activate accounts manually to save you the trouble if required.

Excellent pool. Mining since day 1. Recommended!

Edit: @ https://zeit.yourmine.org
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
Official Zeitcoin community ambassador
Quote from: TZM
TZM and the ZeitCoin
March 5, 2014 at 5:37pm

PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT:


Many have been emailing TZM Global about a cryptocurrency called ZEIT-COIN which has been spreading mild propaganda online that TZM is "in support" of their initiative.

http://www.followthecoin.com/interview-zeitcoin-team/

https://www.facebook.com/Zeitcoin

TZM global is only in support of actions that can technical transcend the monetary/market system and help assure true environmental and social stability.

Cryptocurrencies, while they may have some advantages in the context of moving away from centralized monetary structures, have no recipe for such true resolution as they are a mere variant of the same basic flaws inherent in any 'medium of exchange', in the context of the market sickness/disorder. Hence - just another waste of time.

We are not sure if the "anonymous" people behind this are in it as a scam or if they mean well. We are not judging them, even though they are being extremely misleading.

Either way, TZM Global does not sanction this type of effort (and was never asked) as it has a very strong possibility of turning into a liability/misleading intent and create a condition for abuse/fraud.

Here is an example of their fraudulent statements.

"We are in talks to have a booth set up for us at Zday March 15th 2014 in Toronto where we will be handing out 50 million ZEIT in total in denominations based on the number of registered attendees. They have already started to send out information about the coin to their movement however we will be working in tandem with them to spread the word through their movement as well also we will be donating 100 Million coins to them to disperse to either causes or their members “this has not yet been discussed but will be shortly its just a matter of scheduling a time to meet”. However they are very excited and open to the idea we just haven’t had time to sit down with them yet and make everything formal."

http://www.followthecoin.com/interview-zeitcoin-team/

Please make some noise so they know TZM will not be abused due to its global popularity for such purposes, well intended or not.

TZM

Seems pretty clear they don't agree.  While it's possible for them to change their mind, even if they don't support the coin, there's no reason for us to stop.

I'm sure that if Zeitcoin's value shoots up then they will be wishing they had supported it afterall.
full member
Activity: 151
Merit: 100
I love this image and thought here would be a nice place to share it.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
well guess it's time to sell Tongue

pahaha not just yet, thats one person playing god! zeit has no leader thats the point Wink
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
The global chapter representatives were generally not that receptive of crypto-currency when i brought it up during a global chapter meeting a few months ago

but they are human, they have preconceived notions and biases, especially when its so close to what we fight against, but fighting fire with fire works and so should fighting money with money.
newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0
well guess it's time to sell Tongue
newbie
Activity: 50
Merit: 0
What pool are ya pol on? I was on dedicated but that one issnt working atm. And scryptominers has 2% fee..

hashstrike

Just a reminder too, we (hashstrike) will be 0% fees for the next 24 hours.  Come back in, we're running better than ever!

http://zeit.hashstrike.com

Yeah it's running good for me now and it looks like all my coins mined last night showed up as well!  Grin

Zeitcoin: MZXkHXB66H64FukMiTJuMCDLoRK2RHvztx

Not mine. Lucky you.
newbie
Activity: 27
Merit: 0
Still have not received my 50K giveaway.  PM my wallet address through Twitter on March 1.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
Quote from: TZM
TZM and the ZeitCoin
March 5, 2014 at 5:37pm

PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT:


Many have been emailing TZM Global about a cryptocurrency called ZEIT-COIN which has been spreading mild propaganda online that TZM is "in support" of their initiative.

http://www.followthecoin.com/interview-zeitcoin-team/

https://www.facebook.com/Zeitcoin

TZM global is only in support of actions that can technical transcend the monetary/market system and help assure true environmental and social stability.

Cryptocurrencies, while they may have some advantages in the context of moving away from centralized monetary structures, have no recipe for such true resolution as they are a mere variant of the same basic flaws inherent in any 'medium of exchange', in the context of the market sickness/disorder. Hence - just another waste of time.

We are not sure if the "anonymous" people behind this are in it as a scam or if they mean well. We are not judging them, even though they are being extremely misleading.

Either way, TZM Global does not sanction this type of effort (and was never asked) as it has a very strong possibility of turning into a liability/misleading intent and create a condition for abuse/fraud.

Here is an example of their fraudulent statements.

"We are in talks to have a booth set up for us at Zday March 15th 2014 in Toronto where we will be handing out 50 million ZEIT in total in denominations based on the number of registered attendees. They have already started to send out information about the coin to their movement however we will be working in tandem with them to spread the word through their movement as well also we will be donating 100 Million coins to them to disperse to either causes or their members “this has not yet been discussed but will be shortly its just a matter of scheduling a time to meet”. However they are very excited and open to the idea we just haven’t had time to sit down with them yet and make everything formal."

http://www.followthecoin.com/interview-zeitcoin-team/

Please make some noise so they know TZM will not be abused due to its global popularity for such purposes, well intended or not.

TZM

Seems pretty clear they don't agree.  While it's possible for them to change their mind, even if they don't support the coin, there's no reason for us to stop.

47 people do not represent the zeit movement haha I think we should get in contact with this person and make intentions clear before it gets to out of hand.
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