Topic: ★ ZEIT ★ [COMMUNITY & KNIGHTS] [ULTRA LOW INFLATION] [MICRO-PAYMENTS] - page 716. (Read 1009334 times)
March 05, 2014, 08:21:21 PM
In all honesty I personally am not too phased by the news, coins like cat, penguin etc exist for no reason at all! this coin has potential a great community and a reason other than making a few bucks behind it! so some guys we dont no, who have never spoken a word to us, who dont actually no much about crypto (and probably what their movement is about) currently arn't supporting us! if they had, things would have been easier maybe, but doesn't change where the coin is going! I also have a feeling they dont represent the views of every tzm member so lets see what happens lets make contact as a community with the tzm community and lets see what their true position is, all in the mean time keep voting zeit up the lists keep buying keep mining and just keep doing what we have been doing the past few days that has made this coin so popular in such a short time. This new is motivation and those with a strong will to succeed will do so no matter what is thrown at them
March 05, 2014, 08:19:11 PM
i think the event is a small setback, nothing thats going to stop Zeitcoin or our intentions towards the movement
be understanding of their lack of understanding and lets work towards bettering it.
this will force us to form our own community and get directly involved in doing things
im sure you have all heard of activism before
be understanding of their lack of understanding and lets work towards bettering it.
this will force us to form our own community and get directly involved in doing things
im sure you have all heard of activism before
That will be our official stance now Anonymousg64 what is a movement except a bunch of liked minded individuals pushing society forward in a positive capacity.
We would like to hear from any members on any Charities they feel fit within the confines of what we are trying to achieve and we will contact them to start accepting ZEIT as donations.
Stay Strong this is our movement...
Every April I do a 100 mile bicycle ride in support of the American Diabetes Association. It's called Tour de Cure. I'm pretty sure the ADA doesn't deal in any cryptocurrency, but I'll do some digging.
March 05, 2014, 08:17:01 PM
I would like to offer a 5 Million ZEIT for someone to create us an official Forum for us that we will integrate into our own website.
This will be our new movement headquarters where we can discuss how to utilize this crypto currency to benefit humanity.
This can be turned into a positive if we can demonstrate the value of a decentralized currency and how it can be used, we could change their mind. Even if TZM does not officially support us they can support our own initiatives to do with this coin what we wanted to do with them.
It is time to show this world what a group of dedicated people can do!
This will be our new movement headquarters where we can discuss how to utilize this crypto currency to benefit humanity.
This can be turned into a positive if we can demonstrate the value of a decentralized currency and how it can be used, we could change their mind. Even if TZM does not officially support us they can support our own initiatives to do with this coin what we wanted to do with them.
It is time to show this world what a group of dedicated people can do!
March 05, 2014, 08:12:43 PM
I think we should make an appeal directly to the members, correct me if my understanding is wrong, but was this a board of a few people who sat down and made a decision on behalf of the thousands of members of the movement?
March 05, 2014, 08:11:35 PM
We received this today from our contact we were speaking with.
Hey,
Sorry to say, the global coordinators do not like the idea of alternative currencies - they believe it is against the message of the movement and are also concerned about fraud. I can really see the idea behind getting alternative currencies going, especially from a 'transition' standpoint, but unfortunately because we are hosting the international event, they have the final say. If you want to come to ZDay or one of the after parties in order to debate its merits with people in the movement you are welcome to do that. The movement has definitely become more strict in terms of drawing lines around what can be labelled officially 'Zeitgeist' and what cannot.
Sorry again
We will be attending the event to combat their stance however our new initiatives will be to start donating ZEIT to related charitable organizations that still stay within the means of the Zeitgeist Movements ideals.
Stay Tuned we don't need their movement to create our own! Once we start these initiatives we hope that they come to their senses and start to stray away from their antiquated values and start to enforce their actual beliefs which are
"The movement is loyal to a train of thought, not figures or institutions. The view held is that through the use of socially targeted research and tested understandings in science and technology, we are now able to logically arrive at societal applications that could be profoundly more effective in meeting the needs of the human population, increasing public health. There is little reason to assume war, poverty, most crime and many other monetarily-based scarcity effects common in our current model cannot be resolved over time. The range of the movement's activism and awareness campaigns extend from short to long term, with methods based explicitly on non-violent methods of communication."
Hey,
Sorry to say, the global coordinators do not like the idea of alternative currencies - they believe it is against the message of the movement and are also concerned about fraud. I can really see the idea behind getting alternative currencies going, especially from a 'transition' standpoint, but unfortunately because we are hosting the international event, they have the final say. If you want to come to ZDay or one of the after parties in order to debate its merits with people in the movement you are welcome to do that. The movement has definitely become more strict in terms of drawing lines around what can be labelled officially 'Zeitgeist' and what cannot.
Sorry again
We will be attending the event to combat their stance however our new initiatives will be to start donating ZEIT to related charitable organizations that still stay within the means of the Zeitgeist Movements ideals.
Stay Tuned we don't need their movement to create our own! Once we start these initiatives we hope that they come to their senses and start to stray away from their antiquated values and start to enforce their actual beliefs which are
"The movement is loyal to a train of thought, not figures or institutions. The view held is that through the use of socially targeted research and tested understandings in science and technology, we are now able to logically arrive at societal applications that could be profoundly more effective in meeting the needs of the human population, increasing public health. There is little reason to assume war, poverty, most crime and many other monetarily-based scarcity effects common in our current model cannot be resolved over time. The range of the movement's activism and awareness campaigns extend from short to long term, with methods based explicitly on non-violent methods of communication."
It sounds an awful lot like the "global coordinators" have lost sight of what the movement is about. I believe that cryptocurrency has the ability to put people on a level playing field (within reason, of course). What I mean by that is, give me and Warren Buffet the exact same mining rig, mining on the exact same pool at the exact same Mh/s and for the exact same amount of time, then, theoretically, he and I would mine the same amount of coins. So, as far as cryptocurrency is concerned, he and I would possess the exact same amount of wealth. And, as long as cryptocurrency remains unregulated by any government or bank, then that keeps the control in the hands of the people, and out of the hands of the global elite. For now, anyway.
March 05, 2014, 08:09:08 PM
i think the event is a small setback, nothing thats going to stop Zeitcoin or our intentions towards the movement
be understanding of their lack of understanding and lets work towards bettering it.
this will force us to form our own community and get directly involved in doing things
im sure you have all heard of activism before
be understanding of their lack of understanding and lets work towards bettering it.
this will force us to form our own community and get directly involved in doing things
im sure you have all heard of activism before
That will be our official stance now Anonymousg64 what is a movement except a bunch of liked minded individuals pushing society forward in a positive capacity.
We would like to hear from any members on any Charities they feel fit within the confines of what we are trying to achieve and we will contact them to start accepting ZEIT as donations.
Stay Strong this is our movement...
March 05, 2014, 08:03:37 PM
i think the event is a small setback, nothing thats going to stop Zeitcoin or our intentions towards the movement
be understanding of their lack of understanding and lets work towards bettering it.
this will force us to form our own community and get directly involved in doing things
im sure you have all heard of activism before
be understanding of their lack of understanding and lets work towards bettering it.
this will force us to form our own community and get directly involved in doing things
im sure you have all heard of activism before
March 05, 2014, 07:59:51 PM
I love this image and thought here would be a nice place to share it.
very childish interpretation
I am in full agreement that we need a shared and open source world and am working towards that, but trading is not inherently corrupt, your forgetting that its the system built around trading that is corruption generating. aka forcing people to use money is evil, not money itself, let alone a decentralized crypto currency.
we need to take power away from the system, this is exactly what crypto-currency does.
i expect TZM to use all technology at its disposal toward its ends.
The reference I was pointing out here was the open source and co-operative nature of p2p coins dude. I did not mean it to come across as negative.
March 05, 2014, 07:57:58 PM
what do the devs have to say about these events please? who have you spoken too exactly and who is this person that has written this article?
March 05, 2014, 07:56:59 PM
We received this today from our contact we were speaking with.
Hey,
Sorry to say, the global coordinators do not like the idea of alternative currencies - they believe it is against the message of the movement and are also concerned about fraud. I can really see the idea behind getting alternative currencies going, especially from a 'transition' standpoint, but unfortunately because we are hosting the international event, they have the final say. If you want to come to ZDay or one of the after parties in order to debate its merits with people in the movement you are welcome to do that. The movement has definitely become more strict in terms of drawing lines around what can be labelled officially 'Zeitgeist' and what cannot.
Sorry again
We will be attending the event to combat their stance however our new initiatives will be to start donating ZEIT to related charitable organizations that still stay within the means of the Zeitgeist Movements ideals.
Stay Tuned we don't need their movement to create our own! Once we start these initiatives we hope that they come to their senses and start to stray away from their antiquated values and start to enforce their actual beliefs which are
"The movement is loyal to a train of thought, not figures or institutions. The view held is that through the use of socially targeted research and tested understandings in science and technology, we are now able to logically arrive at societal applications that could be profoundly more effective in meeting the needs of the human population, increasing public health. There is little reason to assume war, poverty, most crime and many other monetarily-based scarcity effects common in our current model cannot be resolved over time. The range of the movement's activism and awareness campaigns extend from short to long term, with methods based explicitly on non-violent methods of communication."
Hey,
Sorry to say, the global coordinators do not like the idea of alternative currencies - they believe it is against the message of the movement and are also concerned about fraud. I can really see the idea behind getting alternative currencies going, especially from a 'transition' standpoint, but unfortunately because we are hosting the international event, they have the final say. If you want to come to ZDay or one of the after parties in order to debate its merits with people in the movement you are welcome to do that. The movement has definitely become more strict in terms of drawing lines around what can be labelled officially 'Zeitgeist' and what cannot.
Sorry again
We will be attending the event to combat their stance however our new initiatives will be to start donating ZEIT to related charitable organizations that still stay within the means of the Zeitgeist Movements ideals.
Stay Tuned we don't need their movement to create our own! Once we start these initiatives we hope that they come to their senses and start to stray away from their antiquated values and start to enforce their actual beliefs which are
"The movement is loyal to a train of thought, not figures or institutions. The view held is that through the use of socially targeted research and tested understandings in science and technology, we are now able to logically arrive at societal applications that could be profoundly more effective in meeting the needs of the human population, increasing public health. There is little reason to assume war, poverty, most crime and many other monetarily-based scarcity effects common in our current model cannot be resolved over time. The range of the movement's activism and awareness campaigns extend from short to long term, with methods based explicitly on non-violent methods of communication."
March 05, 2014, 07:56:05 PM
I love this image and thought here would be a nice place to share it.
very childish interpretation
I am in full agreement that we need a shared and open source world and am working towards that, but trading is not inherently corrupt, your forgetting that its the system built around trading that is corruption generating. aka forcing people to use money is evil, not money itself, let alone a decentralized crypto currency.
we need to take power away from the system, this is exactly what crypto-currency does.
i expect TZM to use all technology at its disposal toward its ends.
March 05, 2014, 07:50:24 PM
https://www.facebook.com/tzmglobal Follow the page and see what is happening in TZM.. lets tell them we all at the same side.. I can see that; some big things going to happen in TZM in these days.. 
March 05, 2014, 07:44:56 PM
Hi all
can we have some volunteers please to test the new zeit source code, we do not need your #rate for long just until we find 3-4 blocks so we can check the stats, please set your account to auto payout as the server will be closed after this happens, many thanks.
http://109.107.37.250/MPOS/public/index.php?page=dashboard
i can activate accounts manually to save you the trouble if required.
can we have some volunteers please to test the new zeit source code, we do not need your #rate for long just until we find 3-4 blocks so we can check the stats, please set your account to auto payout as the server will be closed after this happens, many thanks.
http://109.107.37.250/MPOS/public/index.php?page=dashboard
i can activate accounts manually to save you the trouble if required.
Excellent pool. Mining since day 1. Recommended!
Edit: @ https://zeit.yourmine.org
March 05, 2014, 07:40:30 PM
Quote from: TZM
TZM and the ZeitCoin
March 5, 2014 at 5:37pm
PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT:
Many have been emailing TZM Global about a cryptocurrency called ZEIT-COIN which has been spreading mild propaganda online that TZM is "in support" of their initiative.
http://www.followthecoin.com/interview-zeitcoin-team/
https://www.facebook.com/Zeitcoin
TZM global is only in support of actions that can technical transcend the monetary/market system and help assure true environmental and social stability.
Cryptocurrencies, while they may have some advantages in the context of moving away from centralized monetary structures, have no recipe for such true resolution as they are a mere variant of the same basic flaws inherent in any 'medium of exchange', in the context of the market sickness/disorder. Hence - just another waste of time.
We are not sure if the "anonymous" people behind this are in it as a scam or if they mean well. We are not judging them, even though they are being extremely misleading.
Either way, TZM Global does not sanction this type of effort (and was never asked) as it has a very strong possibility of turning into a liability/misleading intent and create a condition for abuse/fraud.
Here is an example of their fraudulent statements.
"We are in talks to have a booth set up for us at Zday March 15th 2014 in Toronto where we will be handing out 50 million ZEIT in total in denominations based on the number of registered attendees. They have already started to send out information about the coin to their movement however we will be working in tandem with them to spread the word through their movement as well also we will be donating 100 Million coins to them to disperse to either causes or their members “this has not yet been discussed but will be shortly its just a matter of scheduling a time to meet”. However they are very excited and open to the idea we just haven’t had time to sit down with them yet and make everything formal."
http://www.followthecoin.com/interview-zeitcoin-team/
Please make some noise so they know TZM will not be abused due to its global popularity for such purposes, well intended or not.
TZM
March 5, 2014 at 5:37pm
PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT:
Many have been emailing TZM Global about a cryptocurrency called ZEIT-COIN which has been spreading mild propaganda online that TZM is "in support" of their initiative.
http://www.followthecoin.com/interview-zeitcoin-team/
https://www.facebook.com/Zeitcoin
TZM global is only in support of actions that can technical transcend the monetary/market system and help assure true environmental and social stability.
Cryptocurrencies, while they may have some advantages in the context of moving away from centralized monetary structures, have no recipe for such true resolution as they are a mere variant of the same basic flaws inherent in any 'medium of exchange', in the context of the market sickness/disorder. Hence - just another waste of time.
We are not sure if the "anonymous" people behind this are in it as a scam or if they mean well. We are not judging them, even though they are being extremely misleading.
Either way, TZM Global does not sanction this type of effort (and was never asked) as it has a very strong possibility of turning into a liability/misleading intent and create a condition for abuse/fraud.
Here is an example of their fraudulent statements.
"We are in talks to have a booth set up for us at Zday March 15th 2014 in Toronto where we will be handing out 50 million ZEIT in total in denominations based on the number of registered attendees. They have already started to send out information about the coin to their movement however we will be working in tandem with them to spread the word through their movement as well also we will be donating 100 Million coins to them to disperse to either causes or their members “this has not yet been discussed but will be shortly its just a matter of scheduling a time to meet”. However they are very excited and open to the idea we just haven’t had time to sit down with them yet and make everything formal."
http://www.followthecoin.com/interview-zeitcoin-team/
Please make some noise so they know TZM will not be abused due to its global popularity for such purposes, well intended or not.
TZM
Seems pretty clear they don't agree. While it's possible for them to change their mind, even if they don't support the coin, there's no reason for us to stop.
I'm sure that if Zeitcoin's value shoots up then they will be wishing they had supported it afterall.
March 05, 2014, 07:35:10 PM
I love this image and thought here would be a nice place to share it.
March 05, 2014, 07:33:56 PM
well guess it's time to sell 
pahaha not just yet, thats one person playing god! zeit has no leader thats the point
March 05, 2014, 07:33:00 PM
The global chapter representatives were generally not that receptive of crypto-currency when i brought it up during a global chapter meeting a few months ago
but they are human, they have preconceived notions and biases, especially when its so close to what we fight against, but fighting fire with fire works and so should fighting money with money.
but they are human, they have preconceived notions and biases, especially when its so close to what we fight against, but fighting fire with fire works and so should fighting money with money.
March 05, 2014, 07:32:00 PM
well guess it's time to sell
March 05, 2014, 07:28:29 PM
What pool are ya pol on? I was on dedicated but that one issnt working atm. And scryptominers has 2% fee..
hashstrike
Just a reminder too, we (hashstrike) will be 0% fees for the next 24 hours. Come back in, we're running better than ever!
http://zeit.hashstrike.com
Yeah it's running good for me now and it looks like all my coins mined last night showed up as well!
Zeitcoin: MZXkHXB66H64FukMiTJuMCDLoRK2RHvztx
Not mine. Lucky you.
March 05, 2014, 07:28:08 PM
Still have not received my 50K giveaway. PM my wallet address through Twitter on March 1.
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