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February 27, 2020, 06:51:10 PM
I am still hoping that Spurs would make a push, they have a good young core in their team and they got rid of one player (didn't get any new as far as I know) and they are doing better with the minutes for the young players, they also have Derozan and Aldridge who can change games when they are on their day. I know there is a big difference and it is harder to go into the playoffs this year since every team is equally strong in that last 8-9-10-11 spots so it would be hard for Spurs to go beyond all of them.

However, we are talking about Spurs here, I know they are not the spurs back in the day anymore but the culture is there so I still feel like they may have a chance, it will all depend on how they finish the season and I really wish they go so the record will still belong to them and increase it instead of finally not going to playoffs.

If they want to be in the playoffs again, they need to start winning especially at home.
I noticed that Gay is back in the game against the Dallas Mavericks but they still loss, they need to re-evaluate their line up and adjust accordingly.

Spurs has a good coaching stuff but their players seems to be inconsistent, especially Aldridge who is not been as effective as before anymore.
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February 27, 2020, 06:24:30 PM
If zion has the career most people expect, than it will be one of those games they replay as one older great versus a new up and coming great.  Zion definately looks good to this point.  He is already dominating the court at times and he really hasn't even gotten his feet wet yet.  Would love to see them make the playoffs just for the fun of it.

I really hope that he could live to that hype since we all know he started in the NBA with an injury, even T-Mac compared his injury to Zion's. It is not sever but it is a force that could affect his career. I really hope they could advance to playoffs so that he could experience the pressure in that kind of games where he realy needed to step up and carry his team up.
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February 27, 2020, 05:49:17 PM
They've got a good position coming to the next round but without Simon and Embiid, it will be difficult for this team to handle whoever they've going to face without there Stars. Though the chance of getting back much quicker is no longer impossible as there's already advance treatment. It's just need for both stars to have a good rest and proper medications.

Since it's "EAST", it's now safe to assume they will be in playoffs and still safe for now that they won't be facing the 1st or 2nd on the playoffs on the first round.

23 games left and the remaining players should just do everything to win as much as possible.

As long as the injury isn't that major or results are turned out good, they have lots of time to rest and recover. Playoffs start in April 2020.
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February 27, 2020, 04:40:47 PM

 I think Sixers are in both a good place and a bad place right now. They couldn't keep giving JJ Reddick all that much money and they realized they needed a star as well and sent some of their players for Jimmy Butler who just left. Now what they have to do is get rid of the bad contracts, mainly if they get rid of Tobias Harris and Al Horford (even just Horford is enough) they could potentially afford to get a superb player that would change things in a big way. Horford was a good player in Celtics so it made sense to actually pay him that much but unfortunately in the small ball world where Rockets are literally going to court with 6'6 as their tallest player, it is only natural that playing with both Embiid and Horford on the floor clogged the paint a lot with Simmons not shooting that was just horrible strategy.
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February 27, 2020, 02:59:47 PM
I'd rather let the last roster stay when they fought Raptors or before that.
It was a dream of a good pointguard. (I think we have talked about here just a few days back)
Filled with 3 point shooters. Reddick, Saric, Covington, Belinelli. Those names and a lot more was given up for what?
I really liked that 76s roster, and i watched quite a few games. They played some nice team basketball, but their management decided to go all in, gave Saric and Covington, their 2 starting players for Butler that left them soon. It was obvious bad decision even back then, rushed one, as they wanted to go for title too soon. Later on, Butler didn't want resign with them despite them ofeering him max 5 year contract. So they end up giving Tobias Harris way too much, 150M/5 contract. To be honest, even Horford contract ain't too good either, 109M/4 years. A lot of money for  what it looks now like a bench player.
Currently, they don't have much wiggle room, and who knows how all this will end, but it doesn't look good at all.


I am still hoping that Spurs would make a push, they have a good young core in their team and they got rid of one player (didn't get any new as far as I know) and they are doing better with the minutes for the young players, they also have Derozan and Aldridge who can change games when they are on their day. I know there is a big difference and it is harder to go into the playoffs this year since every team is equally strong in that last 8-9-10-11 spots so it would be hard for Spurs to go beyond all of them.
It will be very very hard for them to get that 8th spot, with 4 wins behind Grizzlies, and tough end of the regular season. In their last 7 games they will play 2x vs Pelicans, 2x Rockets, 76s, Indiana and Kings. Won't be easy at all , and i wouldn't put my money on them to reach that 8th spot, despite them being Spurs.

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February 27, 2020, 10:18:22 AM
I am still hoping that Spurs would make a push, they have a good young core in their team and they got rid of one player (didn't get any new as far as I know) and they are doing better with the minutes for the young players, they also have Derozan and Aldridge who can change games when they are on their day. I know there is a big difference and it is harder to go into the playoffs this year since every team is equally strong in that last 8-9-10-11 spots so it would be hard for Spurs to go beyond all of them.

However, we are talking about Spurs here, I know they are not the spurs back in the day anymore but the culture is there so I still feel like they may have a chance, it will all depend on how they finish the season and I really wish they go so the record will still belong to them and increase it instead of finally not going to playoffs.
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February 27, 2020, 10:03:52 AM
Now 2 stars are out, how much mess will it be?
Let's hope Embiid is alright, he will undergo and MRI on Thursday per update of : https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/30040/joel-embiid
He is an important piece of the team, so he needs to be back healthy again, I don't mind if he will rest a week as long as he comes back since they still have a good standing right now.

Yeah, unlike any other centers this guy could change the pace of the game.
He is really someone which is on the top 10 list of big men with a great skill. 
Not too many centers/power forwards now can be like that.
Jokic, Brook Lopez, Davis. Those name are the most known. Others are mostly shot blockers or waiting for the alley oop. Howard, McGee, Allen.

An agile big man is difficult to find this days and they are expensive.  Grin Not to mention he is still young.
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February 27, 2020, 09:03:17 AM
Now 2 stars are out, how much mess will it be?
Let's hope Embiid is alright, he will undergo and MRI on Thursday per update of : https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/30040/joel-embiid
He is an important piece of the team, so he needs to be back healthy again, I don't mind if he will rest a week as long as he comes back since they still have a good standing right now.
They've got a good position coming to the next round but without Simon and Embiid, it will be difficult for this team to handle whoever they've going to face without there Stars. Though the chance of getting back much quicker is no longer impossible as there's already advance treatment. It's just need for both stars to have a good rest and proper medications.
That is why it's very important they will be healthy in the playoffs, they'll rest now and it doesn't matter if they will end up in the number 8 spot, I am pretty sure they can still match up with the Bucks, maybe they can upset the Bucks, who knows, right?
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February 27, 2020, 08:49:08 AM
Now 2 stars are out, how much mess will it be?
Let's hope Embiid is alright, he will undergo and MRI on Thursday per update of : https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/30040/joel-embiid
He is an important piece of the team, so he needs to be back healthy again, I don't mind if he will rest a week as long as he comes back since they still have a good standing right now.
They've got a good position coming to the next round but without Simon and Embiid, it will be difficult for this team to handle whoever they've going to face without there Stars. Though the chance of getting back much quicker is no longer impossible as there's already advance treatment. It's just need for both stars to have a good rest and proper medications.
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February 27, 2020, 08:35:26 AM
Now 2 stars are out, how much mess will it be?
Let's hope Embiid is alright, he will undergo and MRI on Thursday per update of : https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/30040/joel-embiid
He is an important piece of the team, so he needs to be back healthy again, I don't mind if he will rest a week as long as he comes back since they still have a good standing right now.
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February 27, 2020, 07:45:03 AM

We can see the real tight competition above.

I bet Pelicans would advance.

I heard one analyst talk about the Pelicans. They are in a fast pace after Zion came back.
Yeah, and there is a lot of chance they could really make it to the playoffs.
We will just don't see it yet.
There are still a lot of games and there is rough road that will come.
They need the win against the Cavs and then the Lakers again. Prove something. They need to be worthy for that playoffs 8th spot.

I doubt they'll win against the cavaliers, suddenly the cavs have become a better team... they just beat the Sixers and I think they'll be able to compete with the pelicans.

Personally, I also believe that Pelicans has a decent chance to get that last stop, they are winning now most of their games now, while teams like Blazers and Memphis are suddenly losing games.
This is also why I bet on high odds for the lower seeds.  Grin Sadly, I never got the chance to bet for the Cavs.
It was the sprain shoulder from Embiid which is why the Cavs won that game.
He just played 8 minutes of the game and then need to exit from the game.

This is a good read.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/joel-embiid-suffers-sprained-shoulder-and-it-feels-like-this-whole-76ers-experiment-is-teetering-on-the-edge/

Yeah, Elton Brand is trying something else and it is not working. He might be kicked when all of this goes south.
I'd rather let the last roster stay when they fought Raptors or before that.
It was a dream of a good pointguard. (I think we have talked about here just a few days back)
Filled with 3 point shooters. Reddick, Saric, Covington, Belinelli. Those names and a lot more was given up for what?
Take Butler out, that is okay for me. But put more shooters in exchange for him.
Now 2 stars are out, how much mess will it be?
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February 27, 2020, 06:06:48 AM

We can see the real tight competition above.

I bet Pelicans would advance.

I heard one analyst talk about the Pelicans. They are in a fast pace after Zion came back.
Yeah, and there is a lot of chance they could really make it to the playoffs.
We will just don't see it yet.
There are still a lot of games and there is rough road that will come.
They need the win against the Cavs and then the Lakers again. Prove something. They need to be worthy for that playoffs 8th spot.

I doubt they'll win against the cavaliers, suddenly the cavs have become a better team... they just beat the Sixers and I think they'll be able to compete with the pelicans.

Personally, I also believe that Pelicans has a decent chance to get that last stop, they are winning now most of their games now, while teams like Blazers and Memphis are suddenly losing games.
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February 27, 2020, 05:45:34 AM
I don't know if there were online betting websites that offers bet for that.
But I suggest you to make a thread and post available bets and let other users bet against you accordingly. Just use some escrow to hold the money bet.
That actually sounds fun, but I don't have enough time to monitor games in the NBA, thus making me hesitant on placing bets.
There are more than 20+ games left , if pelicans can win 80% of their games, they'll surely secure a spot in the playoffs.

Before betting on such a thing, it is not a bad idea to check the schedule of the teams fighitning for that 8th spot. I narrowed it down to 3 teams that i believe have highest chances to end in the playoff: Pelicans, Blazers and Grizzlies. Spurs are 4 games behind Grizzlies, and as much as i would like to see them in the playoff, i doubt that that will happen this year. By the look of the schedule, Pelicans actually have decent chance of getting into playoffs, but more about that later in the post.
So I took a few screenshots and and here is their schedule until end of regular season:

                                                                            Pelicans                                   Blazers                                          Grizzlies


Pelicans::By the looks of it, they don't have the easiest schedule, but still plenty of games against teams they can beat. Especially considering the fact that they are not the same team with and without Zion. Since he joined them, they are 8-5, and that;s much higher win percentage  compared to the part of the season he missed. Another  important thing is that they will have 2 games against direct opponent, Grizzlies, that might be the key.

Grizzlies: If you check the current standing, they look like having a slight advantage over other 2 teams, but when you check their opponents until end of the regular season, situation doesn't look so good anymore. They probably have the toughest schedule, having to play 2x against both Pelicans and Blazers. On top of that, they will have some tough stretches, like the one between March 20th and March 31st. In that period they have to play 2 games against Pelicans, Celtics, Bucks and 2x against Raptors.

Blazers: They might have the easiest schedule among these 3 teams, but their recent form ain't best, 1 win and 4 losses. No tough stretches though, plenty of weak teams that don't have any chance for playoff, and 2x games against Memphis. A lot will depend on when Lillard comes back.



Thoughts on the schedule, which team has the easiest and which team the toughest one?

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February 27, 2020, 04:59:06 AM

Others will leave but the original big 3 will stay, when Curry, Thompson, and Green plays together, they can beat any team in the NBA, warriors just needs to keep these 3, give them the best amount of salary and Warriors will once again a championship contender team as long as they are healthy.
It is good to hear but that is the main problem of this team.
Once 1 of the splash brothers is out the offense is getting worse.
Roleplayers is also needed. I mean, look at Lakers, they have stacks of roleplayers just sitting on the bench.  Grin

We can't call it worse, maybe they are not as good when both Klay and Curry are playing but they have proven they can compete with Curry.
Warriors have improve because of the splash brothers, they are not a one man team as they don't have what we called a superstar that could carry his team alone, like Kobe, Lebron, and Jordan, Warriors are different as they are playing a real team effort.
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February 27, 2020, 04:38:18 AM

We can see the real tight competition above.

I bet Pelicans would advance.

I heard one analyst talk about the Pelicans. They are in a fast pace after Zion came back.
Yeah, and there is a lot of chance they could really make it to the playoffs.
We will just don't see it yet.
There are still a lot of games and there is rough road that will come.
They need the win against the Cavs and then the Lakers again. Prove something. They need to be worthy for that playoffs 8th spot.
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February 27, 2020, 04:11:17 AM
I bet Pelicans would advance.

They are very close, actually how about we make this betting for real?

Is there any site that offers and odds on which team on the picture about would get in the top 8 spot by the end of the regular season?

I don't know if there were online betting websites that offers bet for that.
But I suggest you to make a thread and post available bets and let other users bet against you accordingly. Just use some escrow to hold the money bet.
That actually sounds fun, but I don't have enough time to monitor games in the NBA, thus making me hesitant on placing bets.
There are more than 20+ games left , if pelicans can win 80% of their games, they'll surely secure a spot in the playoffs.
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February 27, 2020, 04:01:55 AM
More bad luck for Philadelphia 76s after Simmons injury the other day- Embiid got injured last night(sprained shoulder) in the loss against Cavaliers, and it is uncertian until when he will be out. &6s are currently 5th in the East, but they can't slide down more than 1 spot, even if Embiid and Simmons miss some games since Nets and Magic are quite a few games behind them.

In the other news, Utah Jazz continues to be extremely streaky. Just before All Star break they had 4 wins in a row, and now after the break they are playing really bad, last night they had their 4th consecutive loss, this time against Celtics. Next game is against Wizards, that might be right opponentn for them at the moment to end this loosing streak, but I wouldn't put my money on them.
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February 27, 2020, 02:21:10 AM
I bet Pelicans would advance.

They are very close, actually how about we make this betting for real?

Is there any site that offers and odds on which team on the picture about would get in the top 8 spot by the end of the regular season?
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February 27, 2020, 01:56:01 AM
If zion has the career most people expect, than it will be one of those games they replay as one older great versus a new up and coming great.  Zion definately looks good to this point.  He is already dominating the court at times and he really hasn't even gotten his feet wet yet.  Would love to see them make the playoffs just for the fun of it.

I don't know if you all know this site but gotta share it here.

They have these predictions and if you will be looking at it, there is a 60% chance of Pelicans to go to the Playoffs but less than 1% of winning the NBA Finals. I don't know anything about this but do you agree? PS. I do not own or advertise this site, I just saw it while browsing Zion and Lebron's game.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-nba-predictions/pelicans/

60% chance to make the playoffs...I think that is too high, and they should be less than 100-1 or 1%, I'm thinking 250-1 to win the chip.  They need about 2 years to really start competing.  They have a decent core now.  Now they have to build on that and add people like miami added ray allen, those type of role players that can put you over the top to win it.  Zion is good but way too young to lead them down a treacherous western part of the playoffs.

As long as there is a chance, I would not loss my faith on the Pelicans to reach in the playoffs this season.
Thy are young and they are hungry of course they can do this if they will just trust Zion even if he is only 19 years old.




We can see the real tight competition above.

I bet Pelicans would advance.
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February 27, 2020, 12:41:40 AM
If zion has the career most people expect, than it will be one of those games they replay as one older great versus a new up and coming great.  Zion definately looks good to this point.  He is already dominating the court at times and he really hasn't even gotten his feet wet yet.  Would love to see them make the playoffs just for the fun of it.

I don't know if you all know this site but gotta share it here.

They have these predictions and if you will be looking at it, there is a 60% chance of Pelicans to go to the Playoffs but less than 1% of winning the NBA Finals. I don't know anything about this but do you agree? PS. I do not own or advertise this site, I just saw it while browsing Zion and Lebron's game.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-nba-predictions/pelicans/

60% chance to make the playoffs...I think that is too high, and they should be less than 100-1 or 1%, I'm thinking 250-1 to win the chip.  They need about 2 years to really start competing.  They have a decent core now.  Now they have to build on that and add people like miami added ray allen, those type of role players that can put you over the top to win it.  Zion is good but way too young to lead them down a treacherous western part of the playoffs.
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