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Quote from: Oasisman on February 29, 2020, 03:21:03 AM

Right now, the Celtics without Irving is a much better team.

I have to agree with you on that, they have a new star now which is Tatum.
On their win against the Utah Jazz on the road, he just only scored 33 points with 11 rebounds and his stats are really improving.
That win happened without Walker so they are now a real dangerous team and they don't need Irving again to destroy their good chemistry now.

I bet Walker is liking his stay with the Celtic as he does not have to do it himself just for the team to win.

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They certainly have to adjust to avoid exciting early when playing against the bucks.
IIRC, the last playoffs when these two teams met, the Bucks won the series by a good standing of 4-1, if you'll ask me that's not the Celtics who are competitive.

I'm not sure, but I guess Irving just messed up the Celtics chemistry because of his attitude. I remember when he was out during the 2018 ecf playoffs against the Cavaliers, the Celtics young core just played very impressive. Tatum, Brown, and Rozier just played very well throughout the whole series. Right now, the Celtics without Irving is a much better team.

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Quote from: Viscore on February 28, 2020, 07:17:02 PM

They certainly have to adjust to avoid exciting early when playing against the bucks.
IIRC, the last playoffs when these two teams met, the Bucks won the series by a good standing of 4-1, if you'll ask me that's not the Celtics who are competitive.

There's a drama in Celtics last year that's why it turned out like that.

Want to see them matching up against the Bucks for the 3rd consecutive time in the playoffs.

Quote from: Vaculin on February 28, 2020, 08:44:03 AM

If the Bucks are a good 3 point shooting team, they can capitalize on that strategy, but the thing is, they are not.
yes they have shooters but in overall as a team, they are not a big threat.

What do you mean here mate? Bucks is not a threat to just outside shooting or overall phase?

But honestly, either way, it's not easy to establish a 51-8 Win-Loss. It's already a quarter left for the season. It just proves that what we think as disadvantages about them isn't really the issue for them. Season games are really different but 51-8 record is not a joke. Meaning their current offensive phase, whether inside or outside is effective overall.

About Giannis, he is improving year by year. He knows what lacking every time they got eliminated. They are defeated by the Celtics in the 7 game series last 2017-2018, after that he worked to improve his athleticism and inside scoring. They got revenge a year after. But on that year, Raptors find a way to stop his athleticism and inside scoring, they eliminated again. He now works in his outside shooting while maintaining his strength inside and the result is effective.

Let's see then if they will now breach the ECF this time.

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Others will leave but the original big 3 will stay, when Curry, Thompson, and Green plays together, they can beat any team in the NBA, warriors just needs to keep these 3, give them the best amount of salary and Warriors will once again a championship contender team as long as they are healthy.

It is good to hear but that is the main problem of this team.
Once 1 of the splash brothers is out the offense is getting worse.
Roleplayers is also needed. I mean, look at Lakers, they have stacks of roleplayers just sitting on the bench. Grin

We can't call it worse, maybe they are not as good when both Klay and Curry are playing but they have proven they can compete with Curry.
Warriors have improve because of the splash brothers, they are not a one man team as they don't have what we called a superstar that could carry his team alone, like Kobe, Lebron, and Jordan, Warriors are different as they are playing a real team effort.

That I agree with.
But the Draymond fire is kind of losing too.
I don't see much of his defense anymore unlike when Curry and Thompson is around.
It's like, he is a different person with the splash brothers.

That team though is gone by now. It is a different Warriors team now.
They will need to improve first.
Perhaps by keeping players it can be done. They should stop trading now.
Draymond, Looney, Thompson, Curry, Paschall and Wiggins. Keep those guys and the young ones. Maybe they will find themselves in the playoffs again after a year.

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Quote from: Japinat on February 28, 2020, 07:44:05 PM

Pelicans is good but Blazers will fight for that spot too, 60% might be too much, that is correct because there are still 5 teams that are competing to enter in the playoffs, and that fact that there are still a lot of remaining games, this tells me that a team like Blazers might do better when Lillard returns.

Pelicans are 3 wins behind the 8th spot Memphis and teams have around 25 remaining games left. That will be tough for Pelicans to land on the playoffs. On that 25 games remaining, Pelicans should outmatch Memphis in terms of winnings but that's not all as while doing that, Blazers and teams on 9th to 10th spot will surely establish winnings along the way. This will be tough for Pelicans.

I don't see them in Playoffs for now. 60% chance for that tough situation, maybe 40%. Too much expectation for Zion's return. Maybe next season they will have a sure spot as we see Zion's impact when he came back playing for the Pelicans.

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If zion has the career most people expect, than it will be one of those games they replay as one older great versus a new up and coming great. Zion definately looks good to this point. He is already dominating the court at times and he really hasn't even gotten his feet wet yet. Would love to see them make the playoffs just for the fun of it.

I don't know if you all know this site but gotta share it here.

They have these predictions and if you will be looking at it, there is a 60% chance of Pelicans to go to the Playoffs but less than 1% of winning the NBA Finals. I don't know anything about this but do you agree? PS. I do not own or advertise this site, I just saw it while browsing Zion and Lebron's game.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-nba-predictions/pelicans/

60% chance to make the playoffs...I think that is too high, and they should be less than 100-1 or 1%, I'm thinking 250-1 to win the chip. They need about 2 years to really start competing. They have a decent core now. Now they have to build on that and add people like miami added ray allen, those type of role players that can put you over the top to win it. Zion is good but way too young to lead them down a treacherous western part of the playoffs.

As long as there is a chance, I would not loss my faith on the Pelicans to reach in the playoffs this season.
Thy are young and they are hungry of course they can do this if they will just trust Zion even if he is only 19 years old.

We can see the real tight competition above.

I bet Pelicans would advance.

Right point made. 60% when they sit in 10th position with 3 quarters of the season done is a bad bet. 3 test men, port, and pelicans fighting for 8th, you give memphis and portland only 20% chance? People are betting on zion too early. If anything I would think the vet laced portland team will make it over those other 2 based purely on experience.

Pelicans is good but Blazers will fight for that spot too, 60% might be too much, that is correct because there are still 5 teams that are competing to enter in the playoffs, and that fact that there are still a lot of remaining games, this tells me that a team like Blazers might do better when Lillard returns.

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If zion has the career most people expect, than it will be one of those games they replay as one older great versus a new up and coming great. Zion definately looks good to this point. He is already dominating the court at times and he really hasn't even gotten his feet wet yet. Would love to see them make the playoffs just for the fun of it.

I don't know if you all know this site but gotta share it here.

They have these predictions and if you will be looking at it, there is a 60% chance of Pelicans to go to the Playoffs but less than 1% of winning the NBA Finals. I don't know anything about this but do you agree? PS. I do not own or advertise this site, I just saw it while browsing Zion and Lebron's game.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-nba-predictions/pelicans/

60% chance to make the playoffs...I think that is too high, and they should be less than 100-1 or 1%, I'm thinking 250-1 to win the chip. They need about 2 years to really start competing. They have a decent core now. Now they have to build on that and add people like miami added ray allen, those type of role players that can put you over the top to win it. Zion is good but way too young to lead them down a treacherous western part of the playoffs.

As long as there is a chance, I would not loss my faith on the Pelicans to reach in the playoffs this season.
Thy are young and they are hungry of course they can do this if they will just trust Zion even if he is only 19 years old.

We can see the real tight competition above.

I bet Pelicans would advance.

Right point made. 60% when they sit in 10th position with 3 quarters of the season done is a bad bet. 3 test men, port, and pelicans fighting for 8th, you give memphis and portland only 20% chance? People are betting on zion too early. If anything I would think the vet laced portland team will make it over those other 2 based purely on experience.

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Celtics are a good 3 point shooting team, Bucks advantage are on the insider as its where there defense is focus, however, if these two will meat in the ECF, I would go with the Boston as they are not a one man team, everyone is willing to give their best and the are so unpredictable, and maybe they can beat the Bucks but their very good 3 point shooting.

Honestly, these two teams are my top picks in in the East so it's very hard to decide whether which one of them will make it. Hmm, I think I'll go with the Bucks. Their inside defense are stronger like what you've said and their 3 point shooting is not bad either (IMO) since Korver, Hill and Middleton were there; and take note, Giannis can now also shoot one Grin

. So for me they can dominate the East this year.

Bucks as what they are showing right now, it's bigger chance for them to advance in the next round and have a good chance as well to make it into the ECF, with a much matured Giannis and a deeper lineup sorounding him. Outside and inside scorers are there plus their interior defense is also getting a good better.

And yeah, speaking of Bucks. They think that Harden is giving some jabs on the Greek Freak in an interview with the ESPN. They said they are not really good with each other but I think it is getting out now.

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I know this will sound crazy and the trade deadline is over but I had an idea about the trades. What if Celtics somehow got Drummond? I mean they don't have to give too much in return as well, Drummond already wants to be out of Cavs so we know they are not really going to keep him, what is better for Cavs a team who is tanking right now to give away a player in return of some valuable picks?

Hayward is not really making a lot of noise in Celtics as well since they have Tatum and Brown so maybe Hayward + some picks in exchange for Drummond could be a really good one for them? I know it may not happen but this off season that type of trade would benefit both teams.

That's a fair trade imo. Just like what I have mentioned from my last comment, that the Celtics needs a dominant big man. Drummond can be a good starting center for the Celtics.
But, lets see what will be the future of the Celtics, because IMO it's very difficult for them to beat the Bucks team. The Bucks are too tall for them, and they'll get out-rebounded easily, but of course the chances for the Celtics is still there.

They certainly have to adjust to avoid exciting early when playing against the bucks.
IIRC, the last playoffs when these two teams met, the Bucks won the series by a good standing of 4-1, if you'll ask me that's not the Celtics who are competitive.

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Quote from: beerlover on February 28, 2020, 11:00:45 AM

I know this will sound crazy and the trade deadline is over but I had an idea about the trades. What if Celtics somehow got Drummond? I mean they don't have to give too much in return as well, Drummond already wants to be out of Cavs so we know they are not really going to keep him, what is better for Cavs a team who is tanking right now to give away a player in return of some valuable picks?

Hayward is not really making a lot of noise in Celtics as well since they have Tatum and Brown so maybe Hayward + some picks in exchange for Drummond could be a really good one for them? I know it may not happen but this off season that type of trade would benefit both teams.

That's a fair trade imo. Just like what I have mentioned from my last comment, that the Celtics needs a dominant big man. Drummond can be a good starting center for the Celtics.
But, lets see what will be the future of the Celtics, because IMO it's very difficult for them to beat the Bucks team. The Bucks are too tall for them, and they'll get out-rebounded easily, but of course the chances for the Celtics is still there.

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Quote from: Kasabus on February 28, 2020, 06:57:14 AM

Celtics are a good 3 point shooting team, Bucks advantage are on the insider as its where there defense is focus, however, if these two will meat in the ECF, I would go with the Boston as they are not a one man team, everyone is willing to give their best and the are so unpredictable, and maybe they can beat the Bucks but their very good 3 point shooting.

Honestly, these two teams are my top picks in in the East so it's very hard to decide whether which one of them will make it. Hmm, I think I'll go with the Bucks. Their inside defense are stronger like what you've said and their 3 point shooting is not bad either (IMO) since Korver, Hill and Middleton were there; and take note, Giannis can now also shoot one Grin

. So for me they can dominate the East this year.

Bucks as what they are showing right now, it's bigger chance for them to advance in the next round and have a good chance as well to make it into the ECF, with a much matured Giannis and a deeper lineup sorounding him. Outside and inside scorers are there plus their interior defense is also getting a good better.

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I know this will sound crazy and the trade deadline is over but I had an idea about the trades. What if Celtics somehow got Drummond? I mean they don't have to give too much in return as well, Drummond already wants to be out of Cavs so we know they are not really going to keep him, what is better for Cavs a team who is tanking right now to give away a player in return of some valuable picks?

Hayward is not really making a lot of noise in Celtics as well since they have Tatum and Brown so maybe Hayward + some picks in exchange for Drummond could be a really good one for them? I know it may not happen but this off season that type of trade would benefit both teams.

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Now 2 stars are out, how much mess will it be?

Let's hope Embiid is alright, he will undergo and MRI on Thursday per update of : https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/30040/joel-embiid
He is an important piece of the team, so he needs to be back healthy again, I don't mind if he will rest a week as long as he comes back since they still have a good standing right now.

Yeah, unlike any other centers this guy could change the pace of the game.
He is really someone which is on the top 10 list of big men with a great skill.
Not too many centers/power forwards now can be like that.
Jokic, Brook Lopez, Davis. Those name are the most known. Others are mostly shot blockers or waiting for the alley oop. Howard, McGee, Allen.

An agile big man is difficult to find this days and they are expensive. Grin

Not to mention he is still young.

He is only 25 years, old, at 30 if he will not have an injury problem he could still play for sure.
Getting a Max contract is what makes him obliged to play better and take his team to the Finals if possible.

his contract will expire in 2020 per these reports.

https://hoopshype.com/player/joel-embiid/salary/
https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/76ers/sixers-joel-embiid-agree-5-year-148m-extension

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Quote from: Oasisman on February 27, 2020, 10:52:17 PM

Quote from: Reid on February 27, 2020, 09:36:29 PM

If it is East we are talking about here.
There is a lot of chances that Heat could snatch the ECF or it could also be Celtics.
It is difficult to predict. Remember, something in those players wakes up whenever the playoffs starts.
They suddenly becomes strong and every second will count.

I'll take Celtics over the Heat to advance in the ECF. I mean the Celtics were a very good team and still developing. If only the Celtics had a dominant big man, they could've easily dominate the East. Though Daniel Theis is having a great season with the Celtics but I think he's not gonna be enough if they'll going to face the much taller Bucks in the playoffs. They need a center that could pull a double digit rebounds every game. Still, i'll be betting for the Celtics for the East conference this playoffs.

Good choice.
I am going for the Bucks though.
I am just saying there are chances for this guys as long as they will do good at the first round.
Bucks and Raptors might get a sweep against an injured Kyrie of the Nets or the 8th seed Orlando.
The great games will be in the middle.
Celtics vs 76ers or Pacers
Heat vs 76ers or Pacers

If Celtics though will win more then they could take the 2nd seed for an easier 1st round and then a lot of rest and practice.
A change for the 76ers to play against the Raptors again for pay back. Grin

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and take note, Giannis can now also shoot one Grin

. So for me they can dominate the East this year.

That's a good improvement for him this season but it's not really that big that he can defend on that, his strength is still on driving the ball inside.

Of course, that was fairly understandable because the paint is his comfort zone. But if there would be a call for a shift of strategy especially in crucial situations, Mike could use that as their as a part of their winning play

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Let's see, hopefully Giannis will not choke in the playoffs, especially against the Raptors.
I just feel that Nick Nurse knew how to beat the Bucks in a series games.

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Actually if you saw the last game of the Bucks against the Raptors, you will see that the Raptors did a pretty solid job on Giannis by doubling him every time he has the ball and he is at a spot where he is effective, the only problem with the Raptors is they don't have Gasol that time to man the paint, but I am pretty sure they'll employ the same technique in the playoffs.

Indeed but a double team is a double team after
all. It could be a disadvantage because it naturally create spaces for other opposing players. Thus, Gasol should be present always because their defense is very weak without him.

If the Bucks are a good 3 point shooting team, they can capitalize on that strategy, but the thing is, they are not.
yes they have shooters but in overall as a team, they are not a big threat.

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Guys, let's also talk about Sixers, they are a big threat ast well.

Sorry mate, my eyes are not on them this time Grin

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okay. NEXT TIME.

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Quote from: Vaculin on February 28, 2020, 07:22:51 AM

Quote from: NavI_027 on February 28, 2020, 07:13:56 AM

and take note, Giannis can now also shoot one Grin

. So for me they can dominate the East this year.

That's a good improvement for him this season but it's not really that big that he can defend on that, his strength is still on driving the ball inside.

Of course, that was fairly understandable because the paint is his comfort zone. But if there would be a call for a shift of strategy especially in crucial situations, Mike could use that as their as a part of their winning play

.

Quote from: Vaculin on February 28, 2020, 07:22:51 AM

Actually if you saw the last game of the Bucks against the Raptors, you will see that the Raptors did a pretty solid job on Giannis by doubling him every time he has the ball and he is at a spot where he is effective, the only problem with the Raptors is they don't have Gasol that time to man the paint, but I am pretty sure they'll employ the same technique in the playoffs.

Indeed but a double team is a double team after
all. It could be a disadvantage because it naturally create spaces for other opposing players. Thus, Gasol should be present always because their defense is very weak without him.

Quote from: Vaculin on February 28, 2020, 07:22:51 AM

Guys, let's also talk about Sixers, they are a big threat ast well.

Sorry mate, my eyes are not on them this time Grin

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Quote from: NavI_027 on February 28, 2020, 07:13:56 AM

and take note, Giannis can now also shoot one Grin

. So for me they can dominate the East this year.

That's a good improvement for him this season but it's not really that big that he can defend on that, his strength is still on driving the ball inside.

Actually if you saw the last game of the Bucks against the Raptors, you will see that the Raptors did a pretty solid job on Giannis by doubling him every time he has the ball and he is at a spot where he is effective, the only problem with the Raptors is they don't have Gasol that time to man the paint, but I am pretty sure they'll employ the same technique in the playoffs.

Guys, let's also talk about Sixers, they are a big threat ast well.

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Quote from: Kasabus on February 28, 2020, 06:57:14 AM

Celtics are a good 3 point shooting team, Bucks advantage are on the insider as its where there defense is focus, however, if these two will meat in the ECF, I would go with the Boston as they are not a one man team, everyone is willing to give their best and the are so unpredictable, and maybe they can beat the Bucks but their very good 3 point shooting.

Honestly, these two teams are my top picks in in the East so it's very hard to decide whether which one of them will make it. Hmm, I think I'll go with the Bucks. Their inside defense are stronger like what you've said and their 3 point shooting is not bad either (IMO) since Korver, Hill and Middleton were there; and take note, Giannis can now also shoot one Grin

. So for me they can dominate the East this year.

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Quote from: Oasisman on February 27, 2020, 10:52:17 PM

Quote from: Reid on February 27, 2020, 09:36:29 PM

If it is East we are talking about here.
There is a lot of chances that Heat could snatch the ECF or it could also be Celtics.
It is difficult to predict. Remember, something in those players wakes up whenever the playoffs starts.
They suddenly becomes strong and every second will count.

I'll take Celtics over the Heat to advance in the ECF. I mean the Celtics were a very good team and still developing. If only the Celtics had a dominant big man, they could've easily dominate the East. Though Daniel Theis is having a great season with the Celtics but I think he's not gonna be enough if they'll going to face the much taller Bucks in the playoffs. They need a center that could pull a double digit rebounds every game. Still, i'll be betting for the Celtics for the East conference this playoffs.

Celtics are a good 3 point shooting team, Bucks advantage are on the insider as its where there defense is focus, however, if these two will meat in the ECF, I would go with the Boston as they are not a one man team, everyone is willing to give their best and the are so unpredictable, and maybe they can beat the Bucks but their very good 3 point shooting.

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Quote from: Reid on February 27, 2020, 09:36:29 PM

If it is East we are talking about here.
There is a lot of chances that Heat could snatch the ECF or it could also be Celtics.
It is difficult to predict. Remember, something in those players wakes up whenever the playoffs starts.
They suddenly becomes strong and every second will count.

I'll take Celtics over the Heat to advance in the ECF. I mean the Celtics were a very good team and still developing. If only the Celtics had a dominant big man, they could've easily dominate the East. Though Daniel Theis is having a great season with the Celtics but I think he's not gonna be enough if they'll going to face the much taller Bucks in the playoffs. They need a center that could pull a double digit rebounds every game. Still, i'll be betting for the Celtics for the East conference this playoffs.

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