2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup - page 168.

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Quote from: Fredomago on March 20, 2023, 12:08:11 PM

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Quote from: Yamifoud on March 20, 2023, 06:43:43 AM

Ginebra will be questionable if they allow NLEX to win, even without an import. That would be too obvious, so they have to play their best and beat NLEX by a blowout. They are ahead in the series with a 1-0 score. As for their import, hopefully, he can still return. As of now, I have no news about him, but I'm hopeful so that this series will be exciting.

Ginebra winning the first game is a big statement already, but I'm sure NLEX will not give up easily because they are more eager to win and go to the next round. They are not doing this just to make more income, this is already a quarterfinals and I believe, both teams are more eager to play and win. If Ginebra won, they will face SMB as far as I know and for sure, there will be rumors and speculations regarding that match up because they are a sister company so it will be hard to choose on where to bet.

Good point, it's a quarter finals where each teams will try everything to survive and move to the next round, though the advantage still in Ginebra's side after winning that blowout game 1, but the chance for NLEX to win is still open especially once the import is available, the changes in plays executions and the defense will help the team to make something that may upset the heavy favorite.

We can't conclude the outcome we can only share our opinions and speculations, until the final buzzer is not being heard, the winning team is still unknown.

I am confused about your statement guys. Huh

What do you mean by NLEX won't give up easily, NLEX has a chance to win, NLEX will not give up easily, and Ginebra is 1-0 in this QF series? NLEX was already eliminated. Ginebra has a twice-to-beat advantage and NLEX are on the do-or-die in the Quarterfinals.

Ginebra and SMB will now face each other at the Semis. Keep updated guys. Cheesy

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on March 19, 2023, 08:14:42 PM

As for Radmanovich as their resident import, this is what I'm saying a few days ago that this might be his debut and his final game this season, but his performance on this game might be a good thing for him for some reason because there might be a chance that other team or the same team will get him when the conference where there is an import comes. Now they wanted him to be their resident import which is a good decision.

Actually, it was noted that "Vodanovich" (let's correct this. damn I know the full name of the import but what the hell I type Radmanovich of the NBA haha) was already on Coach Ayo's radar for a long time and he really wants to pursue him to be Converge's import. I think there is a conflict with Vodanovich's commitment to other leagues during the Commissioners Cup last year that's why Converge instead got Quincy Miller and in the following conference, Governors Cup, they got Jamaal Franklin. In fairness though, these 2 imports that Converge got are really talented and skilled but unfortunately, failed to take Converge into a top spot.

Converge is still a young team to consider under Coach Ayo and has lots of room for improvement. The question is if Vodanovich will accept the offer of becoming a resident import as that was a big decision to be made knowing he's currently also known to other leagues. Different from the story of Justin Brownlee where he's not even hyped when he joined Ginebra for the first time. He is not even a first choice as he was just a replacement import back then but Ginebra just trusts the process alongside him along the way.

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Quote from: crzy on March 20, 2023, 08:30:21 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on March 20, 2023, 06:43:43 AM

Ginebra will be questionable if they allow NLEX to win, even without an import. That would be too obvious, so they have to play their best and beat NLEX by a blowout. They are ahead in the series with a 1-0 score. As for their import, hopefully, he can still return. As of now, I have no news about him, but I'm hopeful so that this series will be exciting.

Ginebra winning the first game is a big statement already, but I'm sure NLEX will not give up easily because they are more eager to win and go to the next round. They are not doing this just to make more income, this is already a quarterfinals and I believe, both teams are more eager to play and win. If Ginebra won, they will face SMB as far as I know and for sure, there will be rumors and speculations regarding that match up because they are a sister company so it will be hard to choose on where to bet.

Good point, it's a quarter finals where each teams will try everything to survive and move to the next round, though the advantage still in Ginebra's side after winning that blowout game 1, but the chance for NLEX to win is still open especially once the import is available, the changes in plays executions and the defense will help the team to make something that may upset the heavy favorite.

We can't conclude the outcome we can only share our opinions and speculations, until the final buzzer is not being heard, the winning team is still unknown.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on March 20, 2023, 06:43:43 AM

Ginebra will be questionable if they allow NLEX to win, even without an import. That would be too obvious, so they have to play their best and beat NLEX by a blowout. They are ahead in the series with a 1-0 score. As for their import, hopefully, he can still return. As of now, I have no news about him, but I'm hopeful so that this series will be exciting.

Ginebra winning the first game is a big statement already, but I'm sure NLEX will not give up easily because they are more eager to win and go to the next round. They are not doing this just to make more income, this is already a quarterfinals and I believe, both teams are more eager to play and win. If Ginebra won, they will face SMB as far as I know and for sure, there will be rumors and speculations regarding that match up because they are a sister company so it will be hard to choose on where to bet.

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Quote from: Fredomago on March 20, 2023, 01:08:42 AM

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Not this time. I'm sure Ginebra won't allow NLEX to come back, as it might cost them a game.

I hoped that Ginebra's wins sealed the speculations of possible bigayan issues just to extend the game to generate more income.

I think you are one of them who thinks that speculation hehe.

I'm just so sick to see people's comments about extending a series for the league's purpose of generating revenue. These people should watch the game live to see if there's something going on and referees are intentionally doing that for a purpose.

Don't want to see that way too but we can't remove that issue as there are opinions that will continue to bring this kind of topic when there are series and when we seen unusual outcome, fans and gamblers will continue to bring that opinions when they've lost a bet but those who are watching live games, those who feel and experiencing the pressure inside the court/arena.

They are the one who can tell what kind of pressures players have when playing and trying to win a game to delight the fans.

Ginebra will be questionable if they allow NLEX to win, even without an import. That would be too obvious, so they have to play their best and beat NLEX by a blowout. They are ahead in the series with a 1-0 score. As for their import, hopefully, he can still return. As of now, I have no news about him, but I'm hopeful so that this series will be exciting.

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Quote from: goinmerry on March 19, 2023, 06:59:17 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on March 19, 2023, 07:29:02 AM

Not this time. I'm sure Ginebra won't allow NLEX to come back, as it might cost them a game.

I hoped that Ginebra's wins sealed the speculations of possible bigayan issues just to extend the game to generate more income.

I think you are one of them who thinks that speculation hehe.

I'm just so sick to see people's comments about extending a series for the league's purpose of generating revenue. These people should watch the game live to see if there's something going on and referees are intentionally doing that for a purpose.

Don't want to see that way too but we can't remove that issue as there are opinions that will continue to bring this kind of topic when there are series and when we seen unusual outcome, fans and gamblers will continue to bring that opinions when they've lost a bet but those who are watching live games, those who feel and experiencing the pressure inside the court/arena.

They are the one who can tell what kind of pressures players have when playing and trying to win a game to delight the fans.

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Quote from: harizen on March 19, 2023, 06:55:35 PM

As much as I want Converge to at least taste a bit of championship, that really low chance to happen as SMC teams will always be dominated the league.

If only fair trade is a thing in this league, independent teams like Converge have a chance to dominate.

As for Converge import, they are now considering him to be a resident import. A good plan but that depends on Radmanovich.

Don't expect too much on an independent team in the current state of PBA right now. I really miss the times where teams like Coca-Cola, Powerade, Barako Bull and other independent teams are fighting against these giant companies in the playoffs. I mean the excitement and competition is better at that time compare to now.

Unfortunately, we might not that kind of thing again unless there are major changes. Converge on the other hand played really well in their first 3 seasons in the league, but like other independent teams, they are also being eliminated immediately at the first round.

As for Radmanovich as their resident import, this is what I'm saying a few days ago that this might be his debut and his final game this season, but his performance on this game might be a good thing for him for some reason because there might be a chance that other team or the same team will get him when the conference where there is an import comes. Now they wanted him to be their resident import which is a good decision. We've seen Ginebra doing that, and we saw the impact of Brownlee on the Ginebra.

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Quote from: Russlenat on March 19, 2023, 07:29:02 AM

Not this time. I'm sure Ginebra won't allow NLEX to come back, as it might cost them a game.

I hoped that Ginebra's wins sealed the speculations of possible bigayan issues just to extend the game to generate more income.

I think you are one of them who thinks that speculation hehe.

I'm just so sick to see people's comments about extending a series for the league's purpose of generating revenue. These people should watch the game live to see if there's something going on and referees are intentionally doing that for a purpose.

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As much as I want Converge to at least taste a bit of championship, that really low chance to happen as SMC teams will always be dominated the league.

If only fair trade is a thing in this league, independent teams like Converge have a chance to dominate.

As for Converge import, they are now considering him to be a resident import. A good plan but that depends on Radmanovich.

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Quote from: Russlenat on March 19, 2023, 07:29:02 AM

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NLEX is playing without an import, so I think this game will be a boring one, and it surely won't be a close one. Brownlee is so good in times like this, so most likely, Ginebra will win via a blowout. Anyway, I just took the -11, and hopefully, that will hit.

Yes, they are, and without an import, it means Ginebra has a very huge chance of winning. -11 is definitely achievable, as Ginebra can make a big run, and they might just get it in one quarter. I didn't expect this to happen to NLEX. They need their import, but he is not healthy, so they are going to war against the best in the PBA with an all-Filipino squad.

Well, this is a best of 3 series, maybe NLEX's import will be able to play in game 2.

20 points deficit coming to the 2nd half, if the trend continue and if NLEX unable to make a good rally then expect that spread will be covered, not sure though as we can't conclude unless the time is already runout and the final buzzer already ends the game. Just to add some fun, we know that a good working hands can change/manipulate the outcome of the game Tongue

just kidding but with the game tempo it's simply saying that Gin kings will win this game.

There's no chance for them, as Ginebra is just too good, and they are playing without an import. It's actually a gift for the bettors, especially those who bet before the game. I think the spread was below -10, so they should be happy now.

Quote from: bisdak40 on March 19, 2023, 07:00:53 AM

NLEX ML @13.00, who's brave enough to try this one? I'm not taking this but wait for the third quarter and see if i will see a good opportunity to bet on this game.

Not this time. I'm sure Ginebra won't allow NLEX to come back, as it might cost them a game.

In our language " Binaon" Gin kings is too strong and NLEX can't do nothing without the import to help them, 34 points deficit maybe if there's an import it can't be that huge, lucky for those who bets before the game spread is fully covered as Gin kings take this game seriously, all went well with the executions and the players are really enjoying the game.

CStand and Malonzo dominated the locals while as we expect Kabayang Brownlee tower the offense for the Brgy,.

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Well, as expected on the first games of the playoffs. Teams who are on the bottom will lost by double digits.

On the first game, it's the only game Converge's import, but he scored 39 points, got 10 rebounds, played for 46 minutes and 40% from 3-pt area. For a debut match, I guess it's a good stat line already, but as we expected, they lost to the SMB by 16 points. Clark, Perez and Manuel combined for 86 of the total 121 points. Manuel showed his efficiency on this one as he's the best player of the game scoring 20 points with a perfect 9/9 shooting.

On the second game, when I saw that Selden Jr. got an injury, I didn't watch the game anymore because I know and we know what to expect with this one. I mean with Selden Jr. at least they have a chance, but without him, that chances drop to 0%. I wonder how the NLEX Road Warriors performed this whole conference if they retained Jonathon Simmons as their import instead of Wayne Selden Jr., but anyway, they lost bigtime.

Two sister teams in SMB and Ginebra will face in the Semi-Finals on a best of 5 series. I think Ginebra will win on this match-up. Only a prediction though.

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Quote from: Fredomago on March 19, 2023, 07:04:25 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on March 19, 2023, 06:20:49 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on March 19, 2023, 06:15:36 AM

NLEX is playing without an import, so I think this game will be a boring one, and it surely won't be a close one. Brownlee is so good in times like this, so most likely, Ginebra will win via a blowout. Anyway, I just took the -11, and hopefully, that will hit.

Yes, they are, and without an import, it means Ginebra has a very huge chance of winning. -11 is definitely achievable, as Ginebra can make a big run, and they might just get it in one quarter. I didn't expect this to happen to NLEX. They need their import, but he is not healthy, so they are going to war against the best in the PBA with an all-Filipino squad.

Well, this is a best of 3 series, maybe NLEX's import will be able to play in game 2.

20 points deficit coming to the 2nd half, if the trend continue and if NLEX unable to make a good rally then expect that spread will be covered, not sure though as we can't conclude unless the time is already runout and the final buzzer already ends the game. Just to add some fun, we know that a good working hands can change/manipulate the outcome of the game Tongue

just kidding but with the game tempo it's simply saying that Gin kings will win this game.

There's no chance for them, as Ginebra is just too good, and they are playing without an import. It's actually a gift for the bettors, especially those who bet before the game. I think the spread was below -10, so they should be happy now.

Quote from: bisdak40 on March 19, 2023, 07:00:53 AM

NLEX ML @13.00, who's brave enough to try this one? I'm not taking this but wait for the third quarter and see if i will see a good opportunity to bet on this game.

Not this time. I'm sure Ginebra won't allow NLEX to come back, as it might cost them a game.

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Quote from: Russlenat on March 19, 2023, 06:20:49 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on March 19, 2023, 06:15:36 AM

NLEX is playing without an import, so I think this game will be a boring one, and it surely won't be a close one. Brownlee is so good in times like this, so most likely, Ginebra will win via a blowout. Anyway, I just took the -11, and hopefully, that will hit.

Yes, they are, and without an import, it means Ginebra has a very huge chance of winning. -11 is definitely achievable, as Ginebra can make a big run, and they might just get it in one quarter. I didn't expect this to happen to NLEX. They need their import, but he is not healthy, so they are going to war against the best in the PBA with an all-Filipino squad.

Well, this is a best of 3 series, maybe NLEX's import will be able to play in game 2.

20 points deficit coming to the 2nd half, if the trend continue and if NLEX unable to make a good rally then expect that spread will be covered, not sure though as we can't conclude unless the time is already runout and the final buzzer already ends the game. Just to add some fun, we know that a good working hands can change/manipulate the outcome of the game Tongue

just kidding but with the game tempo it's simply saying that Gin kings will win this game.

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Quote from: Russlenat on March 19, 2023, 06:20:49 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on March 19, 2023, 06:15:36 AM

NLEX is playing without an import, so I think this game will be a boring one, and it surely won't be a close one. Brownlee is so good in times like this, so most likely, Ginebra will win via a blowout. Anyway, I just took the -11, and hopefully, that will hit.

Yes, they are, and without an import, it means Ginebra has a very huge chance of winning. -11 is definitely achievable, as Ginebra can make a big run, and they might just get it in one quarter. I didn't expect this to happen to NLEX. They need their import, but he is not healthy, so they are going to war against the best in the PBA with an all-Filipino squad.

Well, this is a best of 3 series, maybe NLEX's import will be able to play in game 2.

As per report, Wayne Selden Jr had a grade 1 right midfoot sprain, that's why he won't be playing for tonight's game but i think he will play in game 2 as the injury is only grade 1.

Yeah, that -11 is very achievable, in fact the Ginebra Kings are leading by 20 points at the end of the first half, 56-36. It was a close ballgame at the end of the first quarter but the lead of the Kings blew up to 20 with Brownlee leading the charge.

NLEX ML @13.00, who's brave enough to try this one? I'm not taking this but wait for the third quarter and see if i will see a good opportunity to bet on this game.

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Quote from: Russlenat on March 19, 2023, 06:20:49 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on March 19, 2023, 06:15:36 AM

NLEX is playing without an import, so I think this game will be a boring one, and it surely won't be a close one. Brownlee is so good in times like this, so most likely, Ginebra will win via a blowout. Anyway, I just took the -11, and hopefully, that will hit.

Yes, they are, and without an import, it means Ginebra has a very huge chance of winning. -11 is definitely achievable, as Ginebra can make a big run, and they might just get it in one quarter. I didn't expect this to happen to NLEX. They need their import, but he is not healthy, so they are going to war against the best in the PBA with an all-Filipino squad.

As expected, Ginebra dominated the game with a big lead already. I think game 1 belongs to Ginebra, and so will game 2 if their import will not come back. Ginebra does not usually start strong, but in this game, they did due to an obvious reason.

Quote from: Russlenat on March 19, 2023, 06:20:49 AM

Well, this is a best of 3 series, maybe NLEX's import will be able to play in game 2.

Of course, but it's not a problem for Ginebra, as they have the momentum going into game 2, especially if they have a blowout win here.

By the way, Ginebra is also playing with an all-Filipino squad here, as Brownlee is a naturalized player.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on March 19, 2023, 06:15:36 AM

NLEX is playing without an import, so I think this game will be a boring one, and it surely won't be a close one. Brownlee is so good in times like this, so most likely, Ginebra will win via a blowout. Anyway, I just took the -11, and hopefully, that will hit.

Yes, they are, and without an import, it means Ginebra has a very huge chance of winning. -11 is definitely achievable, as Ginebra can make a big run, and they might just get it in one quarter. I didn't expect this to happen to NLEX. They need their import, but he is not healthy, so they are going to war against the best in the PBA with an all-Filipino squad.

Well, this is a best of 3 series, maybe NLEX's import will be able to play in game 2.

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NLEX is playing without an import, so I think this game will be a boring one, and it surely won't be a close one. Brownlee is so good in times like this, so most likely, Ginebra will win via a blowout. Anyway, I just took the -11, and hopefully, that will hit.

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Quote from: mirakal on March 19, 2023, 04:42:51 AM

Quote from: Botnake on March 19, 2023, 04:09:59 AM

The first game between SMB and Converge is currently ongoing, and SMB is currently leading. Unfortunately, I am unable to watch the game as there are no available live streams on Facebook. Thus, my only option is to monitor the game through the box score as my basis for live betting. I keep refreshing my search in the hopes of finding a live stream before the game ends.

Not for long, because Converge won the 2nd quarter. As a result, they won the first half. Now, we are in the 2nd half, where SMB is usually good. They have to continue attacking the paint, as that's their strength. Maybe they will play better defense, resulting in a low-scoring game. Grin

And then the outcome favors the favorite not sure if they also covered the spread, that 2nd quarter run of Converge gives SMB supporters a good edge with the ML and handicap during the live event, my bad not paying attention with the schedule as I didn't get the chance of betting to my favorite squad.

Both imports are impressive. They both give decent production and like what I mentioned, above it will be a battle for the locals, the productions and how locals will play their roles is the important factors here.

SMB really got the upper hand as we see from the outcome of the game.

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Quote from: mirakal on March 19, 2023, 04:42:51 AM

Quote from: Botnake on March 19, 2023, 04:09:59 AM

The first game between SMB and Converge is currently ongoing, and SMB is currently leading. Unfortunately, I am unable to watch the game as there are no available live streams on Facebook. Thus, my only option is to monitor the game through the box score as my basis for live betting.

Not for long, because Converge won the 2nd quarter. As a result, they won the first half. Now, we are in the 2nd half, where SMB is usually good. They have to continue attacking the paint, as that's their strength. Maybe they will play better defense, resulting in a low-scoring game. Grin

If this turns into a battle of big runs, Converge will be able to make it a close game. However, it looks like SMB is not allowing Converge to have their big run in the last quarter. So SMB will likely win, and Converge will be eliminated. There's still plenty of time though, so let's just enjoy the game.

Quote from: mirakal on March 19, 2023, 04:42:51 AM

I keep refreshing my search in the hopes of finding a live stream before the game ends.

Next game for sure there's plenty of live stream.

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Quote from: Botnake on March 19, 2023, 04:09:59 AM

The first game between SMB and Converge is currently ongoing, and SMB is currently leading. Unfortunately, I am unable to watch the game as there are no available live streams on Facebook. Thus, my only option is to monitor the game through the box score as my basis for live betting. I keep refreshing my search in the hopes of finding a live stream before the game ends.

Not for long, because Converge won the 2nd quarter. As a result, they won the first half. Now, we are in the 2nd half, where SMB is usually good. They have to continue attacking the paint, as that's their strength. Maybe they will play better defense, resulting in a low-scoring game. Grin

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