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Quote from: Japinat on October 02, 2022, 07:34:29 AM

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Quote from: mirakal on October 02, 2022, 06:49:39 AM

Don't forget, Pringle is also back, so Ginebra is still a very dangerous team. I hope they'll have their first win in this conference, they are leading so far, so it's a good sign that they will win this game. It's a low-scoring game, maybe this would favor them.

Pringle by the way has 9 points so far, he is the 2nd leading scorer, next to Brownlee.

Good game by Brownlee and Pringle so far but the Bolts are not letting them go so I'm taking this risky bet now, Meralco Bolts +6.5 @1.85 as I think O'Bryant will gonna explode in the second half and make the game as close as possible or take the win.

Score is 49-41, Ginebra leading by 8 points.

Ginebra is taking care of the lead but it's not a big lead so there's still a chance for Meralco to take over the lead this can happen only if Ginebra failed to be consistent. It's good to see other players contributing as well with their best import, it looks like Brownlee can't take this game alone. Ginebra is still a team to beat, they are strong as a team and they should play as a team, I'm confident they can take this first win at the cost of Meralco there's no other way for them but to win.

Meralco had a strong start in the 3rd quarter but Ginebra finish it strong.

We are now in the 4th quarter and Ginebra is having a double-digit lead already.
We know how good Ginebra is in the 4th quarter, once they have a good run, they will not let their opponent catch up and most of the time the game will end in a big margin win.

So @Yamifoud, looks like you have a big win tonight.

Congratulations guys, Ginebra won the game and covered the spread.

The final score is 91-99.

The top scorer for Ginebra is Justin Brownlee with 34 points, a major bounce back from his performance in their previous game.
Nice game, Ginebra has a good shot at winning the championship, big thanks that Pringle is also back plus they have Malonzo.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 02, 2022, 06:49:39 AM

Don't forget, Pringle is also back, so Ginebra is still a very dangerous team. I hope they'll have their first win in this conference, they are leading so far, so it's a good sign that they will win this game. It's a low-scoring game, maybe this would favor them.

Pringle by the way has 9 points so far, he is the 2nd leading scorer, next to Brownlee.

Good game by Brownlee and Pringle so far but the Bolts are not letting them go so I'm taking this risky bet now, Meralco Bolts +6.5 @1.85 as I think O'Bryant will gonna explode in the second half and make the game as close as possible or take the win.

Score is 49-41, Ginebra leading by 8 points.

Ginebra is taking care of the lead but it's not a big lead so there's still a chance for Meralco to take over the lead this can happen only if Ginebra failed to be consistent. It's good to see other players contributing as well with their best import, it looks like Brownlee can't take this game alone. Ginebra is still a team to beat, they are strong as a team and they should play as a team, I'm confident they can take this first win at the cost of Meralco there's no other way for them but to win.

Meralco had a strong start in the 3rd quarter but Ginebra finish it strong.

We are now in the 4th quarter and Ginebra is having a double-digit lead already.
We know how good Ginebra is in the 4th quarter, once they have a good run, they will not let their opponent catch up and most of the time the game will end in a big margin win.

So @Yamifoud, looks like you have a big win tonight.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 02, 2022, 06:59:31 AM

Quote from: mirakal on October 02, 2022, 06:49:39 AM

Don't forget, Pringle is also back, so Ginebra is still a very dangerous team. I hope they'll have their first win in this conference, they are leading so far, so it's a good sign that they will win this game. It's a low-scoring game, maybe this would favor them.

Pringle by the way has 9 points so far, he is the 2nd leading scorer, next to Brownlee.

Good game by Brownlee and Pringle so far but the Bolts are not letting them go so I'm taking this risky bet now, Meralco Bolts +6.5 @1.85 as I think O'Bryant will gonna explode in the second half and make the game as close as possible or take the win.

Score is 49-41, Ginebra leading by 8 points.

Ginebra is taking care of the lead but it's not a big lead so there's still a chance for Meralco to take over the lead this can happen only if Ginebra failed to be consistent. It's good to see other players contributing as well with their best import, it looks like Brownlee can't take this game alone. Ginebra is still a team to beat, they are strong as a team and they should play as a team, I'm confident they can take this first win at the cost of Meralco there's no other way for them but to win.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 02, 2022, 06:49:39 AM

Don't forget, Pringle is also back, so Ginebra is still a very dangerous team. I hope they'll have their first win in this conference, they are leading so far, so it's a good sign that they will win this game. It's a low-scoring game, maybe this would favor them.

Pringle by the way has 9 points so far, he is the 2nd leading scorer, next to Brownlee.

It is half time and Ginebra is ahead by 8 points. They are performing well in the first half but usually, there are big adjustments in the second half.

In their last game, Meralco was very sluggish in the second half, thus they lost against Northport after not being able to take good care of their huge lead. They are starting slow this time. Hopefully, they have enough energy in the 2nd half to come back from this game.

Ginebra though started well after their poor performance in their last game. Ginebra is still heavily favored to win this game. If they continue their momentum to the 2nd half, they will surely win this game.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 02, 2022, 06:49:39 AM

Don't forget, Pringle is also back, so Ginebra is still a very dangerous team. I hope they'll have their first win in this conference, they are leading so far, so it's a good sign that they will win this game. It's a low-scoring game, maybe this would favor them.

Pringle by the way has 9 points so far, he is the 2nd leading scorer, next to Brownlee.

Good game by Brownlee and Pringle so far but the Bolts are not letting them go so I'm taking this risky bet now, Meralco Bolts +6.5 @1.85 as I think O'Bryant will gonna explode in the second half and make the game as close as possible or take the win.

Score is 49-41, Ginebra leading by 8 points.

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Lose my bet, good game by Brownlee and a lot of missed free throws from the Meralco Bolts that could have made the game close.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on October 02, 2022, 06:21:54 AM

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Here we go, we will not see the last game of the day.

Ginebra vs Ginebra, both teams lose in their previous matches, but I'm seeing here that Ginebra is going to bounce back strong, so I'm backing them to win. Right now, they are -3.5 to win, and since it's Sunday, I hope the crowd will be able to help them.

Brownlee vs O'bryant, it's a great matchup, A bigger O'bryant vs Brownlee, but for sure Brownlee will not back down. It's nice seeing this competitive teams playing against each other. Ginebra had a good lead early but Meralco is catching up I think it's going to be a close game.

Anyway, good luck on your bet, that's doable.

I'm watching the game now, it's very entertaining and I'm liking it because Ginebra is still ahead. I know it's going to be a close game but all I like is for Ginebra to win by at least 4 points. Grin

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Waiting also in live, if Ginebra will be down by many points, I might take the ML as long as it's 3.00 and above.

Don't forget, Pringle is also back, so Ginebra is still a very dangerous team. I hope they'll have their first win in this conference, they are leading so far, so it's a good sign that they will win this game. It's a low-scoring game, maybe this would favor them.

Pringle by the way has 9 points so far, he is the 2nd leading scorer, next to Brownlee.

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Quote from: Botnake on October 02, 2022, 06:13:54 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on October 02, 2022, 05:48:53 AM

Here we go, we will not see the last game of the day.

Ginebra vs Ginebra, both teams lose in their previous matches, but I'm seeing here that Ginebra is going to bounce back strong, so I'm backing them to win. Right now, they are -3.5 to win, and since it's Sunday, I hope the crowd will be able to help them.

Brownlee vs O'bryant, it's a great matchup, A bigger O'bryant vs Brownlee, but for sure Brownlee will not back down. It's nice seeing this competitive teams playing against each other. Ginebra had a good lead early but Meralco is catching up I think it's going to be a close game.

Anyway, good luck on your bet, that's doable.

I'm watching the game now, it's very entertaining and I'm liking it because Ginebra is still ahead. I know it's going to be a close game but all I like is for Ginebra to win by at least 4 points. Grin

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Waiting also in live, if Ginebra will be down by many points, I might take the ML as long as it's 3.00 and above.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on October 02, 2022, 05:48:53 AM

Here we go, we will not see the last game of the day.

Ginebra vs Ginebra, both teams lose in their previous matches, but I'm seeing here that Ginebra is going to bounce back strong, so I'm backing them to win. Right now, they are -3.5 to win, and since it's Sunday, I hope the crowd will be able to help them.

Brownlee vs O'bryant, it's a great matchup, A bigger O'bryant vs Brownlee, but for sure Brownlee will not back down. It's nice seeing this competitive teams playing against each other. Ginebra had a good lead early but Meralco is catching up I think it's going to be a close game.

Anyway, good luck on your bet, that's doable.

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Quote from: Russlenat on October 02, 2022, 04:21:26 AM

On some teams, they have only one person whom they consider as their superstar and he is the one making most of the production, however, with Magnolia, it's quite different as we know their system, they prioritize their teamwork over individual production. Congrats to them, this team is a good team to bet with.

A kind of a working system that is being developed thru time, chemistries that entrusted one another by making the ball to rotate and find the open man. Though sometimes they are relying much on how Lee will play and they are all affected when he does not have a good shooting percentage, but once they play the running game and that tight defense, they are managing to overrun their opponents.

They are on top one game away from the visiting team. If they continue playing solid though, they are not playing yet against the heavyweights. Still a long way to move forward to the next round.

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Here we go, we will not see the last game of the day.

Ginebra vs Ginebra, both teams lose in their previous matches, but I'm seeing here that Ginebra is going to bounce back strong, so I'm backing them to win. Right now, they are -3.5 to win, and since it's Sunday, I hope the crowd will be able to help them.

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Quote from: gunhell16 on October 02, 2022, 02:30:41 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on October 01, 2022, 09:37:50 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on October 01, 2022, 08:43:34 AM

I guess Magnolia will win this game. Stockton made a bad move with a poor foul on Paul Lee although there's still enough time left, and with that, it resulted in a two-possession ball game, it could have been an interesting game, but converge is not a clutch team, too bad.

They won the game, 105-109 was the score.

Converge import is good, but without good support from the locals, he cannot win for the team.
He scored 38 points but most of the locals are struggling in the game, unlike the Magnolia who has big contributions from the locals, so the import is not carrying a heavy burden.

Here are the locals who contributed big to this win.

Jalalon 15 pts
Barroca 19 pts
Lee 20 pts
Sanggalang 10 pts
Abueva 10 pts.

You said that right and accurately dude, teamwork is still really important and you shouldn't just rely on imports or anyone they think is the best. Because no matter how good it is if a team does not have teamwork, the chance to win for sure will not be achieved. But if all the members of the team have a good connection with each other and all contribute, it is also certain that there is a high chance that they will win the match.

And that's exactly what happened in this battle between the two teams. That's why it's really good that everyone brings the team, not just one brings a team.

On some teams, they have only one person whom they consider as their superstar and he is the one making most of the production, however, with Magnolia, it's quite different as we know their system, they prioritize their teamwork over individual production. Congrats to them, this team is a good team to bet with.

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Quote from: Russlenat on October 01, 2022, 09:37:50 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on October 01, 2022, 08:43:34 AM

I guess Magnolia will win this game. Stockton made a bad move with a poor foul on Paul Lee although there's still enough time left, and with that, it resulted in a two-possession ball game, it could have been an interesting game, but converge is not a clutch team, too bad.

They won the game, 105-109 was the score.

Converge import is good, but without good support from the locals, he cannot win for the team.
He scored 38 points but most of the locals are struggling in the game, unlike the Magnolia who has big contributions from the locals, so the import is not carrying a heavy burden.

Here are the locals who contributed big to this win.

Jalalon 15 pts
Barroca 19 pts
Lee 20 pts
Sanggalang 10 pts
Abueva 10 pts.

You said that right and accurately dude, teamwork is still really important and you shouldn't just rely on imports or anyone they think is the best. Because no matter how good it is if a team does not have teamwork, the chance to win for sure will not be achieved. But if all the members of the team have a good connection with each other and all contribute, it is also certain that there is a high chance that they will win the match.

And that's exactly what happened in this battle between the two teams. That's why it's really good that everyone brings the team, not just one brings a team.

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Quote from: harizen on October 01, 2022, 06:34:42 PM

I'm really amazed at this new team Converge. Even on their debut at the last conference they really show competitiveness against any teams in the league. I see this team will be one of the independent teams that will soon rise to the top if they maintain that kind of performance.

Hopefully, they will be able to maintain the competitiveness that they are showing now, with how the rotations have been design I really believe that the coach influence is really something that will bring this team to a much higher position in this league.

Though it's too early to conclude their fate, they have a lot of games to come, building and establishing chemistries do need time and practices, most of the players are still young and with how coach Ayo is towering his young cores, I can see them resurrecting the original /former franchise owner Alaska milk. Hope to see them winning a title.

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So the locals has to step up the game and not allow that 10 point deficit to stop them as they made a huge comeback and maintain their composure to took the game away from Converge. But still they have to check what's wrong with their import, yes this is a win, but in other games, they will really have to rely to their import to seal the win for them in close games.

Impressive adjustment by the locals to help with that late rally run sealed the win.

However, in terms of roster comparison, Magnolia shouldn't be supposed to be shown struggling against Converge.

If things will always end like that, they will surely have a hard time winning against top teams.

The reason why they win the game, because of the locals as even Converge's import is really bringing them big damage, good thing that the locals of Magnolia performs well and help their struggling import, they snatch the win in the last few minutes of the game. But yes, Magnolia's locals are far superior to the young roster of Converge.

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Quote from: Baofeng on October 01, 2022, 06:21:22 PM

So the locals has to step up the game and not allow that 10 point deficit to stop them as they made a huge comeback and maintain their composure to took the game away from Converge. But still they have to check what's wrong with their import, yes this is a win, but in other games, they will really have to rely to their import to seal the win for them in close games.

Impressive adjustment by the locals to help with that late rally run sealed the win.

However, in terms of roster comparison, Magnolia shouldn't be supposed to be shown struggling against Converge.

If things will always end like that, they will surely have a hard time winning against top teams.

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Both winners of the games last night are come from behind a big lead.

Bay Area Dragons overcome the 16-point deficit before the half against the Phoenix FuelMaster.
Magnolia Hotshots overcome the 14-point deficit early in the 4Q against the Converge.

I'm really amazed at this new team Converge. Even on their debut at the last conference they really show competitiveness against any teams in the league. I see this team will be one of the independent teams that will soon rise to the top if they maintain that kind of performance.

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Quote from: jakelyson on October 01, 2022, 05:26:36 PM

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Solid productions from the entire core of Mags, adding to that is also a good support game from their import, though he didn't make that huge productions like Converge import but 21 points and 24 rebs and 3 blocks seem decent,.

The import was not performing well, I think he is suffering from some kind of injury but still, he endured and still produced a decent production. Thanks to the effort of the locals, they were able to come back from a 10 points deficit. And even after that controversial call against Rakocevic that got him a technical and kicked him out of the dying seconds of the game, the locals still persevered and maintained their lead. They eventually took the game away from Converge.

And maybe they know what is the real score about their imports, he seems to be struggling and yeah, could be injured, but still the numbers is not that bad.

So the locals has to step up the game and not allow that 10 point deficit to stop them as they made a huge comeback and maintain their composure to took the game away from Converge. But still they have to check what's wrong with their import, yes this is a win, but in other games, they will really have to rely to their import to seal the win for them in close games.

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Quote from: jakelyson on October 01, 2022, 05:26:36 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on October 01, 2022, 10:24:55 AM

Solid productions from the entire core of Mags, adding to that is also a good support game from their import, though he didn't make that huge productions like Converge import but 21 points and 24 rebs and 3 blocks seem decent,.

The import was not performing well, I think he is suffering from some kind of injury but still, he endured and still produced a decent production. Thanks to the effort of the locals, they were able to come back from a 10 points deficit. And even after that controversial call against Rakocevic that got him a technical and kicked him out of the dying seconds of the game, the locals still persevered and maintained their lead. They eventually took the game away from Converge.

This is why locals should not depend too much with their imports they should play as a team and help everyone if they are struggling. Mags proves to be a best team and not as individual performance, we saw some struggle with their imports what they did is to play better with their system. Some imports are actually now performing as expected to them but still they are here for a reason and the team should stay compose and play the game.

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Quote from: Fredomago on October 01, 2022, 10:24:55 AM

Solid productions from the entire core of Mags, adding to that is also a good support game from their import, though he didn't make that huge productions like Converge import but 21 points and 24 rebs and 3 blocks seem decent,.

The import was not performing well, I think he is suffering from some kind of injury but still, he endured and still produced a decent production. Thanks to the effort of the locals, they were able to come back from a 10 points deficit. And even after that controversial call against Rakocevic that got him a technical and kicked him out of the dying seconds of the game, the locals still persevered and maintained their lead. They eventually took the game away from Converge.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 30, 2022, 05:53:48 PM

Quote from: blockman on September 30, 2022, 05:26:25 PM

Well, fans that have seen and impressed by him will now have an expectation towards him. We know that first impression lasts and that's why for the next matches of Magnolia.
If, he didn't perform well, you'll see the bashing again and instead of criticism, they'll make fun again of the guy. People, fans and almost everyone have that thinking when it's come to disappointments.
We rather see those than what we're expecting and hoping for the best to a person like that guy.

Yes, there are lots of different opinions and impression about Magnolia's import. He gains interest during his debut, but if he will not perform well in their next game for sure, there is criticism that will come up. He needs to continue doing his best and be competitive whoever they are playing against with. Remember that there are competitive teams who have deeper line up. He should be consistent with how he showcase his skills.

Big expectation now from him, the fans who love this will start following him. One thing to notice Abueva is not playing yet, looking on the positive side. If both he and Ian will play and support this import, they are really having a slot in chasing the finals.

That's how we think and criticize people.
If we don't like what we've seen then we'll have that criticism hard on him. No offense though a professional like him won't really look at any of it and it won't matter to him.
Anyway, does anyone have seen how the import of Converge is sports against Abueva?

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Quote from: Russlenat on October 01, 2022, 09:37:50 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on October 01, 2022, 08:43:34 AM

I guess Magnolia will win this game. Stockton made a bad move with a poor foul on Paul Lee although there's still enough time left, and with that, it resulted in a two-possession ball game, it could have been an interesting game, but converge is not a clutch team, too bad.

They won the game, 105-109 was the score.

Converge import is good, but without good support from the locals, he cannot win for the team.
He scored 38 points but most of the locals are struggling in the game, unlike the Magnolia who has big contributions from the locals, so the import is not carrying a heavy burden.

Here are the locals who contributed big to this win.

Jalalon 15 pts
Barroca 19 pts
Lee 20 pts
Sanggalang 10 pts
Abueva 10 pts.

Yes absolutely true converge imports doing good he performed well and in the end of the first half they are leading by 10 points which thats good enough if they can maintain and as in the end of third quarter they are leading but in the forth and final quarter the locals of magnolia give their best and we all know that in the clutch situations they are pro enough so they are already know what to do and thats the reason why they win.

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