2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup - page 61.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 10, 2024, 09:00:31 PM

With sister teams competing there's always rumors that the game will be controlled, we can't remove that assumption as we keep seeing how the league is being practice, either SMC or MVP will win the title and those who are on lower ranks will continue to serve as farm teams, though they are trying to hype the league back giving those low ranks team an exposures showing that they can beat good teams, but I guess that's already late as the trust of most fans is no longer interested with how the games being played.

I'm waiting for MPBL to earn more advertisers and big companies trust, if that happened they will be able to pay big names from PBA and switch them to play with their respectives cities/provinces.

It will be a real competitions for PBA and for sure with how the fans embracing MPBL with additional talents the entertainment and excitement from each provinces and cities that they'll be heading will be jampack!

MPBL is gaining the popularity and more audiences and fans are going there. So, if PBA won't do anything that's interesting and they keep on repeating this sequence coming from the playoffs, semi finals and finals, there's no doubt that they'll be lessened as the oldest basketball league in Asia and will be overtaken by it. Because in the sense of PBA, there's no more competitive drama on it and it's like we all know what's going to be the result of most games up to the season's finals.

Quote from: Sanitough on April 10, 2024, 10:40:02 PM

Why would people still watch if they know what team will win. It's too late for them, their action on giving tickets is good but it will not work anymore. Just imagine, you have to go through the long traffic just to get to the arena, although that's free but it's not fun to watch anymore. Me, I would just watch my TV since I'm subscribe to Pilipinas Live, so I can also watch anywhere online.

If they will not stop that farm team and monopoly inside, they will never improve.

I think they should be thinking of revamping the PBA by adding more teams, for sure the excitement will grow and people will start putting their interest back.

Exactly, it's just hard to accept that this pro league and known to our country has been getting out of the talks and started to be ignored by the young talents that we're having. And with that, those talents are bringing more viewership to the offshore leagues that we're seeing like KBL and B League. Monopoly and bad management from the current commissioner should be changed and there should be a competition for him to be replaced.

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What a big run by the Magnolia hotshots in the 2nd half. It's like we are witnessing the semi Finals in the past season as these two teams got into each other with a very unpredictable outcome.

Just look at the per quarter scoring.

Phx 18 39 20 16
Magnolia 28 19 32 28

Looks like Phoenix was gas out in the 2nd half.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 13, 2024, 01:54:50 PM

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 13, 2024, 06:05:39 AM

First quarter belonged to the TNT, but the 2nd quarter is highly dominated by NLEX, so far.

TNT only need one quarter to beat the NLEX. 28-14 in the 4th in favor of the TNT, that's too much to give up.

Bollick is still good for NLEX but it was really Oftana who had a great night with 37 points, probably his season high. What kind of defense NLEX put into him? He couldn't score this much if they put good defense on him, and NLEX might be able to continue their win streak, but TNT is really good in clutch times as their experience had made them to be more competitive when its needed the most.

There's a chance NLEX would tie the game but the last shot attempt of Bollick wasn't properly set up, he was a bit out balance as he was bothered by the defense of Khobuntin and miss it.

Yup, Oftana got a great game seems that NLEX did not put that pressure too well and with a good touch and knowing how deadly this rising star is, you can't just ignore him and not to do a double when he's getting his rhythm, though like what you have said Bollick is really doing his best but not enough to snatch the game away from TNT.

Sometimes when Oftana is not hot, he won't score that match, What's just impressive from him is that he did it on the road where he is not too familiar with the court. This player really is something special, he is very useful in the international competition due to his height and athleticism, and have you seen his chase down block on Semerad, he didn't hit it clean but somehow it has disrupted the shot resulting to Semerad unable to convert it.

Quote from: Fredomago on April 13, 2024, 01:54:50 PM

Defense anticipate that Bollick will take it and good position and anticipation for Khonuntin as he manage to bothered that last attempt from Bollick.

TNT knows Bollick would take the last shot, and they know the guy who can defend him.

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Quote from: Distinctin on April 13, 2024, 08:14:37 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 13, 2024, 06:05:39 AM

First quarter belonged to the TNT, but the 2nd quarter is highly dominated by NLEX, so far.

TNT only need one quarter to beat the NLEX. 28-14 in the 4th in favor of the TNT, that's too much to give up.

Bollick is still good for NLEX but it was really Oftana who had a great night with 37 points, probably his season high. What kind of defense NLEX put into him? He couldn't score this much if they put good defense on him, and NLEX might be able to continue their win streak, but TNT is really good in clutch times as their experience had made them to be more competitive when its needed the most.

There's a chance NLEX would tie the game but the last shot attempt of Bollick wasn't properly set up, he was a bit out balance as he was bothered by the defense of Khobuntin and miss it.

Yup, Oftana got a great game seems that NLEX did not put that pressure too well and with a good touch and knowing how deadly this rising star is, you can't just ignore him and not to do a double when he's getting his rhythm, though like what you have said Bollick is really doing his best but not enough to snatch the game away from TNT.

Defense anticipate that Bollick will take it and good position and anticipation for Khonuntin as he manage to bothered that last attempt from Bollick.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 13, 2024, 06:05:39 AM

First quarter belonged to the TNT, but the 2nd quarter is highly dominated by NLEX, so far.

TNT only need one quarter to beat the NLEX. 28-14 in the 4th in favor of the TNT, that's too much to give up.

Bollick is still good for NLEX but it was really Oftana who had a great night with 37 points, probably his season high. What kind of defense NLEX put into him? He couldn't score this much if they put good defense on him, and NLEX might be able to continue their win streak, but TNT is really good in clutch times as their experience had made them to be more competitive when its needed the most.

There's a chance NLEX would tie the game but the last shot attempt of Bollick wasn't properly set up, he was a bit out balance as he was bothered by the defense of Khobuntin and miss it.

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Quote from: Maslate on April 13, 2024, 04:20:53 AM

Quote from: Japinat on April 13, 2024, 03:42:45 AM

DYIP trying to bounce back from their loss to SMB but it seems like Rain or Shine has been dominating the game. It's less than 2 minutes in the 3rd now and Rain or shine is having a good lead. Of course there's still plenty of time but i haven't seen DYIP trailing this much and still winning the game, they usually are the ones controlling the game, so I guess this will be another loss from DYIP and it will be their 2 straight losses.

Indeed, it was a win by the ROS and they have dominated the DYIP in this game. I think in the middle of the conference we will see the true color of the teams that are rumored as "farm team" because they start losing now.

Anyway, I think we should move on to the next game as this will be a more interesting one, it's TNT vs the red hot NLEX. Right now, I'm gonna be riding with the success of the NLEX as they are currently on a winning streak, and based on the current line, they are +3.5, and is 2.14 on moneyline, I'm gonna take both. I'm also expecting it will be a 3 point shoot out, so another bet on over 194.5.

This looks so over now, and once again NLEX is dominating the game leading by 10 points now. I think their dominance will continue and TNT might loss again just like what they experience against Northport. As of now, Bollick only has 5 points but Miranda had 12 points which we don't see most of the time, so this is a good news for the NLEX as everyone is getting involve already.

First quarter belonged to the TNT, but the 2nd quarter is highly dominated by NLEX, so far.

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Quote from: Japinat on April 13, 2024, 03:42:45 AM

DYIP trying to bounce back from their loss to SMB but it seems like Rain or Shine has been dominating the game. It's less than 2 minutes in the 3rd now and Rain or shine is having a good lead. Of course there's still plenty of time but i haven't seen DYIP trailing this much and still winning the game, they usually are the ones controlling the game, so I guess this will be another loss from DYIP and it will be their 2 straight losses.

Indeed, it was a win by the ROS and they have dominated the DYIP in this game. I think in the middle of the conference we will see the true color of the teams that are rumored as "farm team" because they start losing now.

Anyway, I think we should move on to the next game as this will be a more interesting one, it's TNT vs the red hot NLEX. Right now, I'm gonna be riding with the success of the NLEX as they are currently on a winning streak, and based on the current line, they are +3.5, and is 2.14 on moneyline, I'm gonna take both. I'm also expecting it will be a 3 point shoot out, so another bet on over 194.5.

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DYIP trying to bounce back from their loss to SMB but it seems like Rain or Shine has been dominating the game. It's less than 2 minutes in the 3rd now and Rain or shine is having a good lead. Of course there's still plenty of time but i haven't seen DYIP trailing this much and still winning the game, they usually are the ones controlling the game, so I guess this will be another loss from DYIP and it will be their 2 straight losses.

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Quote from: Sanitough on April 12, 2024, 07:53:53 AM

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2 games will be happening today.
Converge vs Phoenix and Ginebra vs Bossing

The first game look so easy that we can make easy money here. Converge is now domoralize, they are not winning game so it will continue.

As per the bookie market, Phoenix is only -6.5 which should be a steal since Converge have lost double digits againts strong team like ROS and Magnolia. Also, I'm betting on the TT with under 94.5 for Converge.

With a demoralize squad I also think that those who take this handicap for Phoenix will have a good edge winning their pick, though we really can't tell if how they will take the win, but from those current outcomes against stronger teams Converge is not playing with a competitive stats, they are just playing for the said schedule but winning mentalities is no longer present as they don't have any chance to move forward for the next round.

It's just how Phoenix will win this game hopefully they will secure it with a double digit lead for the sake of those who bet for them, though it's PBA and gambling is always have a big factors on how it's going to end, just saying!

Not the way I expected, Phoenix able to have a good lead but in the end, they only won by 6 points, I still loss my bet. On the TT, it was a clear over for converge as they scored a total of 107 points, way too much on the line offered by our sportsbook. It's really unpredictable, when a team that we choose win the game but there's a spread that didn't cover.

On the 2nd game, I was also able to put a bet but on the bigger odds like x4 predicting Ginebra to win by 1-5 points, but looking at the score now, that seemed not happening anymore as Ginebra is already having a very comfortable lead.

I don't see how come Phoenix allows Converge to outscored them in the final quarter seems something fishy as they let that big lead dissappear and not covered the handicap, just simply say that it might be a rigged or something that controlled them since from the very beginning they are in-control and I don't see that coming where Converge can convert that much, it's too far from the over ans under so both handicap and under bets is ruined as Phoenix messed it up.

2nd game, no chance for Blackwater as Gin kings really used everything to make sure that they will not going to mess up in this game, double digits securing the handicap for bettors who entrusted their bets for them.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 12, 2024, 09:12:15 AM

C. Stand with 33 points, that's an MVP number. So last time against the DYIP, I don't know what came into their mind that they didn't let him play in the 4th quarter when they are down. Hmmmm... I can see some rigged on that game, and they don't want to repeat the same mistake again, it will be too obvious.

He is getting better, 33 points, that's too much and I haven't seen him scored for awhile. They really need that win as they are on a two losing streak, and against the Blackwater which is a farm team, it should not be hard. Ginebra is still playing without Thompson, but it's good to see that C. Stand played at a high level when it is needed the most, a big man that can dominate, I like to see more of that in the future, especially against a stronger team.

Here is the stats.

12-17 shooting... and 9-11 FT, that's very impressive for a guy that is not a good free throw shooter.

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Quote from: Sanitough on April 12, 2024, 07:53:53 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on April 12, 2024, 05:18:58 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on April 12, 2024, 02:18:28 AM

2 games will be happening today.
Converge vs Phoenix and Ginebra vs Bossing

The first game look so easy that we can make easy money here. Converge is now domoralize, they are not winning game so it will continue.

As per the bookie market, Phoenix is only -6.5 which should be a steal since Converge have lost double digits againts strong team like ROS and Magnolia. Also, I'm betting on the TT with under 94.5 for Converge.

With a demoralize squad I also think that those who take this handicap for Phoenix will have a good edge winning their pick, though we really can't tell if how they will take the win, but from those current outcomes against stronger teams Converge is not playing with a competitive stats, they are just playing for the said schedule but winning mentalities is no longer present as they don't have any chance to move forward for the next round.

It's just how Phoenix will win this game hopefully they will secure it with a double digit lead for the sake of those who bet for them, though it's PBA and gambling is always have a big factors on how it's going to end, just saying!

Not the way I expected, Phoenix able to have a good lead but in the end, they only won by 6 points, I still loss my bet. On the TT, it was a clear over for converge as they scored a total of 107 points, way too much on the line offered by our sportsbook. It's really unpredictable, when a team that we choose win the game but there's a spread that didn't cover.

On the 2nd game, I was also able to put a bet but on the bigger odds like x4 predicting Ginebra to win by 1-5 points, but looking at the score now, that seemed not happening anymore as Ginebra is already having a very comfortable lead.

The 2nd game was easy to predict as Ginebra came from a loss so it's expected that they will bounce back. And like what we had witness, it was a vry dominant win by Ginebra with a 19 point victory.

C. Stand with 33 points, that's an MVP number. So last time against the DYIP, I don't know what came into their mind that they didn't let him play in the 4th quarter when they are down. Hmmmm... I can see some rigged on that game, and they don't want to repeat the same mistake again, it will be too obvious.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 12, 2024, 05:18:58 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on April 12, 2024, 02:18:28 AM

2 games will be happening today.
Converge vs Phoenix and Ginebra vs Bossing

The first game look so easy that we can make easy money here. Converge is now domoralize, they are not winning game so it will continue.

As per the bookie market, Phoenix is only -6.5 which should be a steal since Converge have lost double digits againts strong team like ROS and Magnolia. Also, I'm betting on the TT with under 94.5 for Converge.

With a demoralize squad I also think that those who take this handicap for Phoenix will have a good edge winning their pick, though we really can't tell if how they will take the win, but from those current outcomes against stronger teams Converge is not playing with a competitive stats, they are just playing for the said schedule but winning mentalities is no longer present as they don't have any chance to move forward for the next round.

It's just how Phoenix will win this game hopefully they will secure it with a double digit lead for the sake of those who bet for them, though it's PBA and gambling is always have a big factors on how it's going to end, just saying!

Not the way I expected, Phoenix able to have a good lead but in the end, they only won by 6 points, I still loss my bet. On the TT, it was a clear over for converge as they scored a total of 107 points, way too much on the line offered by our sportsbook. It's really unpredictable, when a team that we choose win the game but there's a spread that didn't cover.

On the 2nd game, I was also able to put a bet but on the bigger odds like x4 predicting Ginebra to win by 1-5 points, but looking at the score now, that seemed not happening anymore as Ginebra is already having a very comfortable lead.

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Quote from: Sanitough on April 12, 2024, 02:18:28 AM

2 games will be happening today.
Converge vs Phoenix and Ginebra vs Bossing

The first game look so easy that we can make easy money here. Converge is now domoralize, they are not winning game so it will continue.

As per the bookie market, Phoenix is only -6.5 which should be a steal since Converge have lost double digits againts strong team like ROS and Magnolia. Also, I'm betting on the TT with under 94.5 for Converge.

With a demoralize squad I also think that those who take this handicap for Phoenix will have a good edge winning their pick, though we really can't tell if how they will take the win, but from those current outcomes against stronger teams Converge is not playing with a competitive stats, they are just playing for the said schedule but winning mentalities is no longer present as they don't have any chance to move forward for the next round.

It's just how Phoenix will win this game hopefully they will secure it with a double digit lead for the sake of those who bet for them, though it's PBA and gambling is always have a big factors on how it's going to end, just saying!

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2 games will be happening today.
Converge vs Phoenix and Ginebra vs Bossing

The first game look so easy that we can make easy money here. Converge is now domoralize, they are not winning game so it will continue.

As per the bookie market, Phoenix is only -6.5 which should be a steal since Converge have lost double digits againts strong team like ROS and Magnolia. Also, I'm betting on the TT with under 94.5 for Converge.

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Quote from: Natalim on April 11, 2024, 09:51:03 AM

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Magnolia on the other hand seemed to have struggled in the past few games although they won their last game, but probably there's still some missing factor that they need to fill, hopefully Jerrick Balanza will be the answer.

Some of the teams like Magnolia, TNT, and Ginebra have struggled this conference, they are called as a championship team but this time they look different. We can't tell if the team have a problem or the weaker teams just suddenly improve, but this action of the Magnolia hotshots tells us that there's some problem in the team that they need to correct.

If we look at the team, the leaders are already old, they probably have pass their prime as they are not the same anymore in terms of production. Paul Lee who is a sniper was even struggling in the past few games, Barroca as well. That's why we can't blame the fans for calling them introboys because they get into the Finals but they loss most of the time.

Agree to that, they are no longer on their primes, though they can still play ball but skills wise that's not the same anymore especially with their speeds, they need to adjust and if possible bring some fresh legs who can provide the aid that they needed, it's sad to say but that's what we are seeing, they can go to the finals but can't win a title, and in this season they are struggling and they needed a better adjustment which they must be doing now while they still can turn things around.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on April 11, 2024, 09:02:15 AM

Magnolia on the other hand seemed to have struggled in the past few games although they won their last game, but probably there's still some missing factor that they need to fill, hopefully Jerrick Balanza will be the answer.

Some of the teams like Magnolia, TNT, and Ginebra have struggled this conference, they are called as a championship team but this time they look different. We can't tell if the team have a problem or the weaker teams just suddenly improve, but this action of the Magnolia hotshots tells us that there's some problem in the team that they need to correct.

If we look at the team, the leaders are already old, they probably have pass their prime as they are not the same anymore in terms of production. Paul Lee who is a sniper was even struggling in the past few games, Barroca as well. That's why we can't blame the fans for calling them introboys because they get into the Finals but they loss most of the time.

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Quote from: Maslate on April 11, 2024, 08:11:48 AM

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PBA: Magnolia gets Jerrick Balanza in trade with Converge as Hotshots make playoff push

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Magnolia improved its guard rotation for the remainder of the PBA Season 48 Philippine Cup with the arrival of Jerrick Balanza from Converge.

Converge's Jerrick Balanza will now don Magnolia’s colors as the team looks for a big boost after a rocky start to the PBA Season 48 Philippine Cup.

The FiberXers shipped Balanza to the franchise in a move that was announced by the league on Thursday, April 11.

Converge, which has yet to come up with a win in six games, will receive the Hotshots' second round pick in next season’s draft.

Good trade since Converge is already done, they are still winless but Magnolia have some struggle so adding another big man in the name of Jerrick Balanza will probably help on their size. Though not so tall but he could use his size to score inside. Honestly, I'm not so familiar with him since his team are not popular but I'm sure he'll improve with Magnolia.

If we compare this to the NBA, converge is like a team that are trying to rebuild, so they are trading their players to get the top picks, a rookie pick. I think converge will need more season to improve this team, but as long as they can't afford to sign a all star caliber player, they'll remain at the bottom, This team was only good because it was the Alaska line up that was acquired, but eventually they slowly gave up their starters and this is the result of the decision, it's a bad decision after all.

Magnolia on the other hand seemed to have struggled in the past few games although they won their last game, but probably there's still some missing factor that they need to fill, hopefully Jerrick Balanza will be the answer.

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Fresh update !

PBA: Magnolia gets Jerrick Balanza in trade with Converge as Hotshots make playoff push

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Magnolia improved its guard rotation for the remainder of the PBA Season 48 Philippine Cup with the arrival of Jerrick Balanza from Converge.

Converge's Jerrick Balanza will now don Magnolia’s colors as the team looks for a big boost after a rocky start to the PBA Season 48 Philippine Cup.

The FiberXers shipped Balanza to the franchise in a move that was announced by the league on Thursday, April 11.

Converge, which has yet to come up with a win in six games, will receive the Hotshots' second round pick in next season’s draft.

Good trade since Converge is already done, they are still winless but Magnolia have some struggle so adding another big man in the name of Jerrick Balanza will probably help on their size. Though not so tall but he could use his size to score inside. Honestly, I'm not so familiar with him since his team are not popular but I'm sure he'll improve with Magnolia.

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Quote from: blockman on April 10, 2024, 05:29:35 PM

Going on with PBA anniversary and giving tickets, it doesn't seem to work and every Filipino fans are already aware of what's going to happen when we see the big three teams that are part of the playoffs or semis. If you guys will rotate with PBA posts and topics posted on social media, you'd see people are just giving them a 'haha' reaction because it doesn't make sense anymore for them to retrieve the trust of the fans watching the live games. Yes, there are now telecasts through livestreams but still, look at the other sports that have been loved by the fans. Despite that, watching live games are still giving a different experience but not anymore with PBA. Most of the comments that I've seen were that they want Kume to be replaced by another one to give PBA another taste to the fans and make it alive more if he's been replaced.

Why would people still watch if they know what team will win. It's too late for them, their action on giving tickets is good but it will not work anymore. Just imagine, you have to go through the long traffic just to get to the arena, although that's free but it's not fun to watch anymore. Me, I would just watch my TV since I'm subscribe to Pilipinas Live, so I can also watch anywhere online.

If they will not stop that farm team and monopoly inside, they will never improve.

I think they should be thinking of revamping the PBA by adding more teams, for sure the excitement will grow and people will start putting their interest back.

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