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April 06, 2024, 05:56:46 PM
So after TNT got dominated the other day, now it's Magnolia who loss to the NLEX RoadWarriors in again another dominating game. Bollick still continue to remain consistent but it was Semerad who was the best player in the game who contributed 22 points.

This is looking very unpredictable now, and I'm seeing this NLEX team to be the dark horse in the playoffs. Now they are the only team who reach 5 wins, although not at the top yet since SMB own the top spot with 4-0 standing.

It's all because of Bollick, he had a better version of team now, if he didn't come back in the Philippines, NLEX would have the same struggle they have in the previous season. I like that they are so comfortable with their respective rules now, they played great defense and they don't hesitate to shoot, good thing they have Bollick who can attack and destroy the defense of their opponents. Attack, pass to the open man and shoot without hesitation, that hasn't been their play, and it's been working. For the NLEX to lose, Bollick should be limited, but thus far, no team has even done that as they are already in a winning streak.

This is his best season so far, hopefully he'll stay with NLEX as it would be disappointing to the fans if he'll sign with the Giant teams. I mean, we are hoping to see more balance in the current PBA league, so if they'll take Bollick out, that will make NLEX a bad team, like a farm team, we don't want to see that happen. However, if a trade is really inevitable, most likely Bollick will be traded to TNT which I think will make TNT a championship team again.

That cannot be assured as TNT are trying to get back to the championship level again. As a fan, I would love to see MP vs Cojuangco team facing in the Finals, that way it looks more legit as they would not agree to manipulate the outcome unlike with teams that are sister teams. It's not proven but speculations do exist and sometimes it looks convincing so personally it cast doubt to my mind already.

Bollick has only played less than a year since his return to the PBA, so maybe more time before he will leave NLEX, but as for now, we are enjoying what we are seeing because this is quite unusual for a team that aren't a championship caliber.

In terms of competition I would also like to see Bollick playing with TNT as the chance of entering the finals and competing against SMC corp will be more interesting, same with your opinion with sister companies competing in the finals, we can't remove the fact that viewers will have that assumption that the game might be manipulated.

Not good for the bettors I guess if both sister teams are competing for the finals, I see Bollick can bring decent numbers to help Poguy and Oftana, his possible addition might give them decent chance to reach the finals.

It's good for the TNT and they should make him the leader of the team so he can play whatever he wants. And since their coach is Chot Reyes, the style of Bollick could fit to the team since Bollick could score on his own, could penetrate and just do amazing things to disrupt the defense of the opposing team.We already talk it here, so we will not be suprise if our speculation will happen in the future as we know how PBA works, the big bosses gets what they want and TNT is one of them.
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April 06, 2024, 12:24:02 PM
So after TNT got dominated the other day, now it's Magnolia who loss to the NLEX RoadWarriors in again another dominating game. Bollick still continue to remain consistent but it was Semerad who was the best player in the game who contributed 22 points.

This is looking very unpredictable now, and I'm seeing this NLEX team to be the dark horse in the playoffs. Now they are the only team who reach 5 wins, although not at the top yet since SMB own the top spot with 4-0 standing.

It's all because of Bollick, he had a better version of team now, if he didn't come back in the Philippines, NLEX would have the same struggle they have in the previous season. I like that they are so comfortable with their respective rules now, they played great defense and they don't hesitate to shoot, good thing they have Bollick who can attack and destroy the defense of their opponents. Attack, pass to the open man and shoot without hesitation, that hasn't been their play, and it's been working. For the NLEX to lose, Bollick should be limited, but thus far, no team has even done that as they are already in a winning streak.

This is his best season so far, hopefully he'll stay with NLEX as it would be disappointing to the fans if he'll sign with the Giant teams. I mean, we are hoping to see more balance in the current PBA league, so if they'll take Bollick out, that will make NLEX a bad team, like a farm team, we don't want to see that happen. However, if a trade is really inevitable, most likely Bollick will be traded to TNT which I think will make TNT a championship team again.

That cannot be assured as TNT are trying to get back to the championship level again. As a fan, I would love to see MP vs Cojuangco team facing in the Finals, that way it looks more legit as they would not agree to manipulate the outcome unlike with teams that are sister teams. It's not proven but speculations do exist and sometimes it looks convincing so personally it cast doubt to my mind already.

Bollick has only played less than a year since his return to the PBA, so maybe more time before he will leave NLEX, but as for now, we are enjoying what we are seeing because this is quite unusual for a team that aren't a championship caliber.

In terms of competition I would also like to see Bollick playing with TNT as the chance of entering the finals and competing against SMC corp will be more interesting, same with your opinion with sister companies competing in the finals, we can't remove the fact that viewers will have that assumption that the game might be manipulated.

Not good for the bettors I guess if both sister teams are competing for the finals, I see Bollick can bring decent numbers to help Poguy and Oftana, his possible addition might give them decent chance to reach the finals.
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April 06, 2024, 10:23:34 AM
So after TNT got dominated the other day, now it's Magnolia who loss to the NLEX RoadWarriors in again another dominating game. Bollick still continue to remain consistent but it was Semerad who was the best player in the game who contributed 22 points.

This is looking very unpredictable now, and I'm seeing this NLEX team to be the dark horse in the playoffs. Now they are the only team who reach 5 wins, although not at the top yet since SMB own the top spot with 4-0 standing.

It's all because of Bollick, he had a better version of team now, if he didn't come back in the Philippines, NLEX would have the same struggle they have in the previous season. I like that they are so comfortable with their respective rules now, they played great defense and they don't hesitate to shoot, good thing they have Bollick who can attack and destroy the defense of their opponents. Attack, pass to the open man and shoot without hesitation, that hasn't been their play, and it's been working. For the NLEX to lose, Bollick should be limited, but thus far, no team has even done that as they are already in a winning streak.

This is his best season so far, hopefully he'll stay with NLEX as it would be disappointing to the fans if he'll sign with the Giant teams. I mean, we are hoping to see more balance in the current PBA league, so if they'll take Bollick out, that will make NLEX a bad team, like a farm team, we don't want to see that happen. However, if a trade is really inevitable, most likely Bollick will be traded to TNT which I think will make TNT a championship team again.

That cannot be assured as TNT are trying to get back to the championship level again. As a fan, I would love to see MP vs Cojuangco team facing in the Finals, that way it looks more legit as they would not agree to manipulate the outcome unlike with teams that are sister teams. It's not proven but speculations do exist and sometimes it looks convincing so personally it cast doubt to my mind already.

Bollick has only played less than a year since his return to the PBA, so maybe more time before he will leave NLEX, but as for now, we are enjoying what we are seeing because this is quite unusual for a team that aren't a championship caliber.
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April 06, 2024, 09:17:51 AM
So after TNT got dominated the other day, now it's Magnolia who loss to the NLEX RoadWarriors in again another dominating game. Bollick still continue to remain consistent but it was Semerad who was the best player in the game who contributed 22 points.

This is looking very unpredictable now, and I'm seeing this NLEX team to be the dark horse in the playoffs. Now they are the only team who reach 5 wins, although not at the top yet since SMB own the top spot with 4-0 standing.

It's all because of Bollick, he had a better version of team now, if he didn't come back in the Philippines, NLEX would have the same struggle they have in the previous season. I like that they are so comfortable with their respective rules now, they played great defense and they don't hesitate to shoot, good thing they have Bollick who can attack and destroy the defense of their opponents. Attack, pass to the open man and shoot without hesitation, that hasn't been their play, and it's been working. For the NLEX to lose, Bollick should be limited, but thus far, no team has even done that as they are already in a winning streak.

This is his best season so far, hopefully he'll stay with NLEX as it would be disappointing to the fans if he'll sign with the Giant teams. I mean, we are hoping to see more balance in the current PBA league, so if they'll take Bollick out, that will make NLEX a bad team, like a farm team, we don't want to see that happen. However, if a trade is really inevitable, most likely Bollick will be traded to TNT which I think will make TNT a championship team again.
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April 06, 2024, 09:17:21 AM
So after TNT got dominated the other day, now it's Magnolia who loss to the NLEX RoadWarriors in again another dominating game. Bollick still continue to remain consistent but it was Semerad who was the best player in the game who contributed 22 points.

This is looking very unpredictable now, and I'm seeing this NLEX team to be the dark horse in the playoffs. Now they are the only team who reach 5 wins, although not at the top yet since SMB own the top spot with 4-0 standing.
A better chance for NLEX to be back in the Semis, and I’d hope they continue their momentum so we can see a difference scenario in the semis. NLEX is getting better and better, a team chemistry really helps a lot and beating Magnolia and TNT was a good indication of having a good system, not just their key players but the whole team deliver the good to get the win.
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April 06, 2024, 07:50:07 AM
So after TNT got dominated the other day, now it's Magnolia who loss to the NLEX RoadWarriors in again another dominating game. Bollick still continue to remain consistent but it was Semerad who was the best player in the game who contributed 22 points.

This is looking very unpredictable now, and I'm seeing this NLEX team to be the dark horse in the playoffs. Now they are the only team who reach 5 wins, although not at the top yet since SMB own the top spot with 4-0 standing.

It's all because of Bollick, he had a better version of team now, if he didn't come back in the Philippines, NLEX would have the same struggle they have in the previous season. I like that they are so comfortable with their respective rules now, they played great defense and they don't hesitate to shoot, good thing they have Bollick who can attack and destroy the defense of their opponents. Attack, pass to the open man and shoot without hesitation, that hasn't been their play, and it's been working. For the NLEX to lose, Bollick should be limited, but thus far, no team has even done that as they are already in a winning streak.
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April 06, 2024, 07:32:11 AM
So after TNT got dominated the other day, now it's Magnolia who loss to the NLEX RoadWarriors in again another dominating game. Bollick still continue to remain consistent but it was Semerad who was the best player in the game who contributed 22 points.

This is looking very unpredictable now, and I'm seeing this NLEX team to be the dark horse in the playoffs. Now they are the only team who reach 5 wins, although not at the top yet since SMB own the top spot with 4-0 standing.
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April 06, 2024, 05:39:27 AM
Pogue alone can't carry them, they need a good back up support especially with their other stars unfortunately,  both Castro and Oftana are not producing numbers that they needed,  both being limited and NP is really showing them gòd defense and good conversions of those turnovers, they did try to rally back but not enough time to make an upset, no need to mentioned Williams as for sure the negotiations didn't work out well to sign him back, maybe they need to rebalance the system and find new sets of role players to help.
Maybe they just have a bad game as they don't loss this much this conference so far. We will see next game what is the adjustment they'll make, but I want to see them adjusting more on their defense as even though their shots aren't falling but their defense is fine, they would not lose with that huge margin.

TNT is slowly becoming an average team, we still want them to be in the finals but the current roster doesn't have enouh fire power to bring them to that big stage. If they can't pursue Williams, then they should look for another superstar as they badly needed it.
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April 05, 2024, 02:16:53 PM
I can't believe what I'm seeing. TNT now down by 28 points vs Northport. This could be the biggest loss of TNT this conference if they will not be able to come back here. They still have 1 full quarter and 6 minutes left in the 3rd, they need  a big run here so that the 4th quarter will be manageable.

Northport are just playing great basketball, they are sharing the ball and were very confident especially from outside. no wonder they are on a winning streak now, though this is not a playoff team, I guess they need to be taken seriously.

That's how it is now, it's just unfortunate that TNT were not able to come back in the 3rd. This 4th quarter, they have a good run but i think there's no enough time to win the game. With less than 3 minutes left in the game and Northport is still leading a double digit, I don't see this run to be converted to a win now.
Castro is already old, so he is not the same anymore. This game he only made 4 points, that's uncharacteristics of him as he used to be good and could lead a team. Although Pogoy has 34 points, but he is not getting good support especially from Oftana who are very limited.
Too bad for Castro to have a performance like this, it looks like TNT have to look for the support system and play as a better team.
TNT should get more young people that can help the team and play aggressively, they are slowly losing their winning glory and this is not good in long term.
The coaching staff of TNT should address this one and have a better plan on their next game to bounce back, they still have the chance though considering their roster for this conference, maybe they just need to find the good balance.

Pogue alone can't carry them, they need a good back up support especially with their other stars unfortunately,  both Castro and Oftana are not producing numbers that they needed,  both being limited and NP is really showing them gòd defense and good conversions of those turnovers, they did try to rally back but not enough time to make an upset, no need to mentioned Williams as for sure the negotiations didn't work out well to sign him back, maybe they need to rebalance the system and find new sets of role players to help.
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April 05, 2024, 01:10:18 PM
There is this roster that's being posted by an MPBL team that they're including Greg Slaughter on their roster and on some other team, another PBA player that will be playing for them as well, I just forgot the name of him. Apart from that, is it true that CTB will be coaching Converge soon and gonna replace coach Ayo?

now, maybe they realize that they really need Williams..BTW, what happened to the rumors that he will get sign?
No more news about him signing or whatnot because both parties don't agree to the terms of each other.
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April 05, 2024, 01:02:41 PM
I can't believe what I'm seeing. TNT now down by 28 points vs Northport. This could be the biggest loss of TNT this conference if they will not be able to come back here. They still have 1 full quarter and 6 minutes left in the 3rd, they need  a big run here so that the 4th quarter will be manageable.

Northport are just playing great basketball, they are sharing the ball and were very confident especially from outside. no wonder they are on a winning streak now, though this is not a playoff team, I guess they need to be taken seriously.

That's how it is now, it's just unfortunate that TNT were not able to come back in the 3rd. This 4th quarter, they have a good run but i think there's no enough time to win the game. With less than 3 minutes left in the game and Northport is still leading a double digit, I don't see this run to be converted to a win now.
Castro is already old, so he is not the same anymore. This game he only made 4 points, that's uncharacteristics of him as he used to be good and could lead a team. Although Pogoy has 34 points, but he is not getting good support especially from Oftana who are very limited.
Too bad for Castro to have a performance like this, it looks like TNT have to look for the support system and play as a better team.
TNT should get more young people that can help the team and play aggressively, they are slowly losing their winning glory and this is not good in long term.
The coaching staff of TNT should address this one and have a better plan on their next game to bounce back, they still have the chance though considering their roster for this conference, maybe they just need to find the good balance.
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April 05, 2024, 07:32:28 AM
I can't believe what I'm seeing. TNT now down by 28 points vs Northport. This could be the biggest loss of TNT this conference if they will not be able to come back here. They still have 1 full quarter and 6 minutes left in the 3rd, they need  a big run here so that the 4th quarter will be manageable.

Northport are just playing great basketball, they are sharing the ball and were very confident especially from outside. no wonder they are on a winning streak now, though this is not a playoff team, I guess they need to be taken seriously.

That's how it is now, it's just unfortunate that TNT were not able to come back in the 3rd. This 4th quarter, they have a good run but i think there's no enough time to win the game. With less than 3 minutes left in the game and Northport is still leading a double digit, I don't see this run to be converted to a win now.
Castro is already old, so he is not the same anymore. This game he only made 4 points, that's uncharacteristics of him as he used to be good and could lead a team. Although Pogoy has 34 points, but he is not getting good support especially from Oftana who are very limited.

now, maybe they realize that they really need Williams..BTW, what happened to the rumors that he will get sign?
They need to move on to that.. and I hope Coach chot (their head coach) will not bring his -A game in coaching the Gilas.
Seems like he was still unlucky in his return as head coach of TNT.
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April 05, 2024, 05:40:28 AM
I can't believe what I'm seeing. TNT now down by 28 points vs Northport. This could be the biggest loss of TNT this conference if they will not be able to come back here. They still have 1 full quarter and 6 minutes left in the 3rd, they need  a big run here so that the 4th quarter will be manageable.

Northport are just playing great basketball, they are sharing the ball and were very confident especially from outside. no wonder they are on a winning streak now, though this is not a playoff team, I guess they need to be taken seriously.

That's how it is now, it's just unfortunate that TNT were not able to come back in the 3rd. This 4th quarter, they have a good run but i think there's no enough time to win the game. With less than 3 minutes left in the game and Northport is still leading a double digit, I don't see this run to be converted to a win now.

now, maybe they realize that they really need Williams..BTW, what happened to the rumors that he will get sign?
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April 05, 2024, 05:05:18 AM
I can't believe what I'm seeing. TNT now down by 28 points vs Northport. This could be the biggest loss of TNT this conference if they will not be able to come back here. They still have 1 full quarter and 6 minutes left in the 3rd, they need  a big run here so that the 4th quarter will be manageable.

Northport are just playing great basketball, they are sharing the ball and were very confident especially from outside. no wonder they are on a winning streak now, though this is not a playoff team, I guess they need to be taken seriously.
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April 04, 2024, 08:12:22 AM
Congrats to those who pick ROS and entrust them the handicap that's a sweet win as they managed to cover the spread and give the bettors decent amount of profits!

It turns out ROS was the easy play. Didn't expect they'll be able to cover the spread since the first half was quite close, I thought for awhile that Converge had figured out how to break the spell but they only played well in the first half but the 2nd half was full of struggle. We can already count them out this conference because currently they are 0-6.

Here's the scoring per quarter.

Quote
ROS   24   28   23   35   110
CON   24   23   16   27   90

It's easy to win by only betting against the Converge, and yes they are done, a team to stay away if we think of backing them.

Anyway, we have games tomorrow, I'm sure it's a match up that would give some great entertainment particularly the last game.
At 4:30 Pm, we have TNT vs Northport, while at 7:30 PM we have Ginebra vs SMB.

Betting odds are as follows.

TNT -3.5
SMB -4.5

Those are the two games, I only wrote the favorites as it's understandable though.

You said it right easy win for those who bet against Converge both handicap and ML gives decent profits, especially those who got a huge amount of money who risk it for ML, it's an easy money for gamblers who can take that big risk, there's nothing to ask for ROS here as they dominated the entire game and they control it till the end.

With the game tomorrow, stats wise I'll like the handicap though we all know that both NP and Gin kings do have capabilities to bring upsets, risky but possible just a matter entrusting your bet to whoever you think that will give you huge benefits.
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April 04, 2024, 08:04:35 AM
Congrats to those who pick ROS and entrust them the handicap that's a sweet win as they managed to cover the spread and give the bettors decent amount of profits!

It turns out ROS was the easy play. Didn't expect they'll be able to cover the spread since the first half was quite close, I thought for awhile that Converge had figured out how to break the spell but they only played well in the first half but the 2nd half was full of struggle. We can already count them out this conference because currently they are 0-6.

Here's the scoring per quarter.

Quote
ROS   24   28   23   35   110
CON   24   23   16   27   90

It's easy to win by only betting against the Converge, and yes they are done, a team to stay away if we think of backing them.

Anyway, we have games tomorrow, I'm sure it's a match up that would give some great entertainment particularly the last game.
At 4:30 Pm, we have TNT vs Northport, while at 7:30 PM we have Ginebra vs SMB.

Betting odds are as follows.

TNT -3.5
SMB -4.5

Those are the two games, I only wrote the favorites as it's understandable though.
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April 04, 2024, 07:03:32 AM
Congrats to those who pick ROS and entrust them the handicap that's a sweet win as they managed to cover the spread and give the bettors decent amount of profits!

It turns out ROS was the easy play. Didn't expect they'll be able to cover the spread since the first half was quite close, I thought for awhile that Converge had figured out how to break the spell but they only played well in the first half but the 2nd half was full of struggle. We can already count them out this conference because currently they are 0-6.

Here's the scoring per quarter.

Quote
ROS   24   28   23   35   110
CON   24   23   16   27   90
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April 03, 2024, 10:43:15 AM
Betting on the games today.

Meralco vs DYIP in the first game, as I see on the bookies, the line was -5.5 for Meralco,.. I think I'm going to bet on them today because they came from a huge victory over the Ginebra, so I'm thinking maybe the momentum will continue.

Their previous game.

DYIP (92) vs Bossing (91)
Bolts (91) vs Ginebra (73)

Unfortunately they weren't able to carry that momentum as despite of the win, they were not able to cover the spread. Sad that Meralco didn't start strong, I guess that's their style against weaker teams, they only charge strong in the 4th but just enough to win the game and give the backers on the spread a heart ache.

Anyway the 2nd game is up, for some reason I could not find a betting odds on my local bookie so I would just say pass to this game, but watching.

That was a bad timing for me, LOL. I should have wait for the live betting to get a better line as Meralco was trailing in most of the quarters. I guess it's not really for me. I'd like to try to win back my losses but the 2nd game does not interest me, it does look like a trap but not sure which team is the right bet. Currently ROS is leading by 9 points but they are -16.5, no for me.

Look like it will end up to another blowout loss of the Converged. With less than 6 minutes and ROS is already leading by 23 points, this could go worse after the end of the game. I can't believe how bad the Converge is, they used to be competitive but now they are worst than the DYIP and Blackwater as they are still winless until now. The long break did not even help them to figure out how to win, instead the problem gets bigger.

You said it right! just going inside the court and play the game but the competitiveness ain't seeing it to anyone, they keep their opponents to attack and have that better look inside the basket, they also got poor offense which may allow them to keep the distance close if they can shot back but lack of defense together with poor offense resulted to an blowout win from the opposing team.

Congrats to those who pick ROS and entrust them the handicap that's a sweet win as they managed to cover the spread and give the bettors decent amount of profits!
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April 03, 2024, 08:16:47 AM
Betting on the games today.

Meralco vs DYIP in the first game, as I see on the bookies, the line was -5.5 for Meralco,.. I think I'm going to bet on them today because they came from a huge victory over the Ginebra, so I'm thinking maybe the momentum will continue.

Their previous game.

DYIP (92) vs Bossing (91)
Bolts (91) vs Ginebra (73)

Unfortunately they weren't able to carry that momentum as despite of the win, they were not able to cover the spread. Sad that Meralco didn't start strong, I guess that's their style against weaker teams, they only charge strong in the 4th but just enough to win the game and give the backers on the spread a heart ache.

Anyway the 2nd game is up, for some reason I could not find a betting odds on my local bookie so I would just say pass to this game, but watching.

That was a bad timing for me, LOL. I should have wait for the live betting to get a better line as Meralco was trailing in most of the quarters. I guess it's not really for me. I'd like to try to win back my losses but the 2nd game does not interest me, it does look like a trap but not sure which team is the right bet. Currently ROS is leading by 9 points but they are -16.5, no for me.

Look like it will end up to another blowout loss of the Converged. With less than 6 minutes and ROS is already leading by 23 points, this could go worse after the end of the game. I can't believe how bad the Converge is, they used to be competitive but now they are worst than the DYIP and Blackwater as they are still winless until now. The long break did not even help them to figure out how to win, instead the problem gets bigger.
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April 03, 2024, 07:58:05 AM
Betting on the games today.

Meralco vs DYIP in the first game, as I see on the bookies, the line was -5.5 for Meralco,.. I think I'm going to bet on them today because they came from a huge victory over the Ginebra, so I'm thinking maybe the momentum will continue.

Their previous game.

DYIP (92) vs Bossing (91)
Bolts (91) vs Ginebra (73)

Unfortunately they weren't able to carry that momentum as despite of the win, they were not able to cover the spread. Sad that Meralco didn't start strong, I guess that's their style against weaker teams, they only charge strong in the 4th but just enough to win the game and give the backers on the spread a heart ache.

Anyway the 2nd game is up, for some reason I could not find a betting odds on my local bookie so I would just say pass to this game, but watching.

That was a bad timing for me, LOL. I should have wait for the live betting to get a better line as Meralco was trailing in most of the quarters. I guess it's not really for me. I'd like to try to win back my losses but the 2nd game does not interest me, it does look like a trap but not sure which team is the right bet. Currently ROS is leading by 9 points but they are -16.5, no for me.
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