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Quote from: Japinat on October 27, 2023, 01:43:04 AM

I've heard a rumor that Ginebra has secured Tony Bishop as their import. Now, Bishop isn't new to the PBA, having played as an import for a different team previously. The big question is, can he bring a championship to the best team in the league?

What's your take on Tony Bishop? Do you think he has what it takes to lead Ginebra to a championship?

Here's the player's statisticis

https://www.proballers.com/basketball/player/11652/tony-bishop

It wasn't reported yet in popular website like spin.ph but we are already seeing some youtube video about this news. Well in 2022, he played with the Meralco Bolts and his stats are also interesting. Accoding to this article.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/meralco-import-tony-bishop-not-ready-to-go-home-yet-a2244-20220401

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A leading Best Import candidate with robust averages of 28.4 points, 13.7 rebounds and 4.1 assists per game during the eliminations, Bishop has been neutralized by the swarming, menacing Hotshots defense.

He seems like a player who could potentially bring a lot to the Ginebra Gin Kings. However, it remains to be seen whether he can deliver under Coach Tim Cone, who values proper ball movement over a ball-hog style, even for imports.

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I've heard a rumor that Ginebra has secured Tony Bishop as their import. Now, Bishop isn't new to the PBA, having played as an import for a different team previously. The big question is, can he bring a championship to the best team in the league?

What's your take on Tony Bishop? Do you think he has what it takes to lead Ginebra to a championship?

Here's the player's statisticis

https://www.proballers.com/basketball/player/11652/tony-bishop

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Quote from: Yamifoud on October 26, 2023, 09:46:27 AM

So, he tested positive for illegal drugs while he was still actively playing before. I guess it's the right action, but a 6-month suspension is definitely painful, especially considering he was signed recently. But as they say, every action has consequences, and he has to face it. I hope Converge would be able to accept that and still give him a chance to play with the team once the suspension is served.

He already signed a contract for a 2-year deal, and I'm sure Converge was well aware of his history regarding drug-related issues since he was off for years before they signed him. With this recent development so close to the season, it might be a tough pill to swallow, but considering he isn't a starter, I'm sure Converge would be okay, and they can still compete this coming season.

I'm also guessing that Converge is aware of his past case before they give him that 2-year contract, with this update regarding to him I'm pretty sure that they are okay with it and give him that chance to continue working with them till the suspension being lifted, giving him that chance may allow him to continue his chase of bringing his name up.

Though it's PBA and the level of competition might be different from where he played during his past suspension, but he is still young and still have that skills that really can compete with other stars who reached this far.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on October 26, 2023, 09:46:27 AM

So, he tested positive for illegal drugs while he was still actively playing before. I guess it's the right action, but a 6-month suspension is definitely painful, especially considering he was signed recently. But as they say, every action has consequences, and he has to face it. I hope Converge would be able to accept that and still give him a chance to play with the team once the suspension is served.

He already signed a contract for a 2-year deal, and I'm sure Converge was well aware of his history regarding drug-related issues since he was off for years before they signed him. With this recent development so close to the season, it might be a tough pill to swallow, but considering he isn't a starter, I'm sure Converge would be okay, and they can still compete this coming season.

Quote from: Yamifoud on October 26, 2023, 09:46:27 AM

On another note, the PBA is set to return in less than 10 days! Get yourselves ready for some action. Probably next week, we'll have news about the imports for respective teams.

Are you excited for the PBA's return?

Yay! I'm excited on the return as it will give more betting actions for us, NBA in the morning while we have PBA in the afternoon and evening.

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So, he tested positive for illegal drugs while he was still actively playing before. I guess it's the right action, but a 6-month suspension is definitely painful, especially considering he was signed recently. But as they say, every action has consequences, and he has to face it. I hope Converge would be able to accept that and still give him a chance to play with the team once the suspension is served.

On another note, the PBA is set to return in less than 10 days! Get yourselves ready for some action. Probably next week, we'll have news about the imports for respective teams.

Are you excited for the PBA's return?

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 26, 2023, 07:24:09 AM

Have you guys read the article about this Cebuano point guard who once played for NLEX and all of a sudden disappeared from the radar with no concrete reason why?

It turns out that Mark Tallo was out for drug infraction which i don't know what's the meaning of this. He is out in the PBA for i think 4 years and now that he has inked a two-year deal for Converge, he was suspended by the PBA for that offense (drug infraction) which had happened a long years ago.

I think that's just the rule they have to follow. According to report this is what happenned.

Quote from: bisdak40 on October 26, 2023, 07:24:09 AM

Do you think that this makes some sense since the incident happened years ago and the guy is now clean and yet not eligible to play again for that offense?

It's fair if the suspension is based on the rules of the PBA, if not, it isn't anymore.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/what-stands-between-mac-tallo-and-pba-career-with-converge-a2244-20231023

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 26, 2023, 07:24:09 AM

Have you guys read the article about this Cebuano point guard who once played for NLEX and all of a sudden disappeared from the radar with no concrete reason why?

It turns out that Mark Tallo was out for drug infraction which i don't know what's the meaning of this. He is out in the PBA for i think 4 years and now that he has inked a two-year deal for Converge, he was suspended by the PBA for that offense (drug infraction) which had happened a long years ago.

Do you think that this makes some sense since the incident happened years ago and the guy is now clean and yet not eligible to play again for that offense?

The deal put on hold due to that situation and maybe PBA has not done with his penalty that's why he's been stop to get back on the league. Maybe this case serves as a big lesson for every player that they should never use drugs while they have a active contract on PBA since for sure that there career will get destroyed the same as Mac Tallo.

I guess it only make sense if he's totally out of using drugs and show thay he is a change man. But overall the league and his incoming team would provably can decide if they would give Tallo another chance to play on PBA.

Spin has good article with this story https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/mac-tallo-move-to-converge-on-hold-says-source-a2244-20231023

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Have you guys read the article about this Cebuano point guard who once played for NLEX and all of a sudden disappeared from the radar with no concrete reason why?

It turns out that Mark Tallo was out for drug infraction which i don't know what's the meaning of this. He is out in the PBA for i think 4 years and now that he has inked a two-year deal for Converge, he was suspended by the PBA for that offense (drug infraction) which had happened a long years ago.

Do you think that this makes some sense since the incident happened years ago and the guy is now clean and yet not eligible to play again for that offense?

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Quote from: Natalim on October 25, 2023, 08:12:41 AM

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Quote from: Fredomago on October 25, 2023, 06:36:45 AM

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If that's true I guess JBL voice may have some weight in doing the decision, though like what you said it's more on how the management will select their import, They are always being expected to dominate or I mean one of the top caliber in terms of winning and considering their import will be a management decision.

I also seen some post from social media about possibility that they may acquire Blakely, not sure if you are all familiar with the hotshots former import who works with coach Tim before.

Though another what if, we will only know who's who once the season starts.

I've heard of Blakely before so, there are a lot of names that are being point out on who's going to be the next import while Brownlee is still away. Well, whoever they decide to take while he's away will be definitely a tough decision for them but they need to do it for their own sake. And speaking of the issue from Brownlee, Kevin Alas posted the certificate that he's got from Asian games that proves that the gold medal will never be taken away from them.

It's posted by Inquirer Sports Fb page.

It's been mentioned before that their gold medal won't be taken away because only Brownlee violated the rules. At least now there's a certificate; it's like validation that the gold medal truly belongs to the Philippines and its players.

Regarding the import for Ginebra, I'd rather go for Blakely than Balkman because Blakely is more consistent and is also a good team player, unlike Balkman. It's just hard to forget what Balkman did in the past when he had a fight with his teammates.

Same with you, I think Blakely can work with how coach Tim play and execute his game plan, he was able to play and win a title with coach Tim wayback their purefoods days, in terms of adjustments with the players I can say as mentioned he's a team player so it won't be hard for him to work along with his teammates.

The only thing that I think will prevent him is his age and those injuries that he got not sure if he can still deliver that same skillsets.

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Quote from: Fredomago on October 25, 2023, 06:36:45 AM

Quote from: bhadz on October 25, 2023, 06:13:57 AM

~snip~

If that's true I guess JBL voice may have some weight in doing the decision, though like what you said it's more on how the management will select their import, They are always being expected to dominate or I mean one of the top caliber in terms of winning and considering their import will be a management decision.

I also seen some post from social media about possibility that they may acquire Blakely, not sure if you are all familiar with the hotshots former import who works with coach Tim before.

Though another what if, we will only know who's who once the season starts.

I've heard of Blakely before so, there are a lot of names that are being point out on who's going to be the next import while Brownlee is still away. Well, whoever they decide to take while he's away will be definitely a tough decision for them but they need to do it for their own sake. And speaking of the issue from Brownlee, Kevin Alas posted the certificate that he's got from Asian games that proves that the gold medal will never be taken away from them.

It's posted by Inquirer Sports Fb page.

It's been mentioned before that their gold medal won't be taken away because only Brownlee violated the rules. At least now there's a certificate; it's like validation that the gold medal truly belongs to the Philippines and its players.

Regarding the import for Ginebra, I'd rather go for Blakely than Balkman because Blakely is more consistent and is also a good team player, unlike Balkman. It's just hard to forget what Balkman did in the past when he had a fight with his teammates.

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Quote from: Fredomago on October 25, 2023, 06:36:45 AM

Quote from: bhadz on October 25, 2023, 06:13:57 AM

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If that's true I guess JBL voice may have some weight in doing the decision, though like what you said it's more on how the management will select their import, They are always being expected to dominate or I mean one of the top caliber in terms of winning and considering their import will be a management decision.

I also seen some post from social media about possibility that they may acquire Blakely, not sure if you are all familiar with the hotshots former import who works with coach Tim before.

Though another what if, we will only know who's who once the season starts.

I've heard of Blakely before so, there are a lot of names that are being point out on who's going to be the next import while Brownlee is still away. Well, whoever they decide to take while he's away will be definitely a tough decision for them but they need to do it for their own sake. And speaking of the issue from Brownlee, Kevin Alas posted the certificate that he's got from Asian games that proves that the gold medal will never be taken away from them.

It's posted by Inquirer Sports Fb page.

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Quote from: Viscore on October 25, 2023, 02:18:11 AM

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``Justin Brownlee wanting his replacement, suggesting that it should be Balkman while he's not yet around. Yes, he was the one suggesting that Ginebra should take Balkman as his replacement.

I mean, sure, they might be friends from their days as teammates, but let's get real for a sec. Is this guy serious? Renaldo Balkman, who I thought was banned from the PBA forever, isn't exactly getting any younger. He's, what, 39 years old now? How's he gonna keep up with these young imports? I get making suggestions, but picking him as a replacement? Nah, I'm not so sure about that.

He's not the best choice there since there's a lot of imports there that can contribute more than him and Balkman is already out of his prime so provably he became a liability on the team. For people saying that he still good well yeah we can agree to that knowing how basketball evolve for sure there are young guys and there can give them more better output.

They should not think about getting him since maybe this is wrong decision they gonna take and much better if they scout another potential player than can help them on their campaign. Who knows maybe from that they can discover a same like player who can perform just like what Brownlee did.

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Quote from: bhadz on October 25, 2023, 06:13:57 AM

Quote from: Viscore on October 25, 2023, 02:18:11 AM

Quote from: bhadz on October 24, 2023, 02:43:05 PM

``Justin Brownlee wanting his replacement, suggesting that it should be Balkman while he's not yet around. Yes, he was the one suggesting that Ginebra should take Balkman as his replacement.

I mean, sure, they might be friends from their days as teammates, but let's get real for a sec. Is this guy serious? Renaldo Balkman, who I thought was banned from the PBA forever, isn't exactly getting any younger. He's, what, 39 years old now? How's he gonna keep up with these young imports? I get making suggestions, but picking him as a replacement? Nah, I'm not so sure about that.

I don't know about that but that's what I've seen in the news that he's the one that he's suggesting and requesting for the Ginebra to take since he can't play anymore due to sanctions. But the decision will still be depending on the Ginebra's management if they will grant that and I'm not just so sure about the age limit and the physique of Balkman. If they have no choice and he's likely the one that they're about to choose then all they need to do is to call him to play for them. Where can we see the list of the available imports that are available to play in the PBA? I guess that there are a lot of them but since it's Ginebra that's asking for it, that's going to take still a lot of consideration if they'll grant that request or they'll have to go through with a tough selection process because they always want the best for them and to take every season's championship.

If that's true I guess JBL voice may have some weight in doing the decision, though like what you said it's more on how the management will select their import, They are always being expected to dominate or I mean one of the top caliber in terms of winning and considering their import will be a management decision.

I also seen some post from social media about possibility that they may acquire Blakely, not sure if you are all familiar with the hotshots former import who works with coach Tim before.

Though another what if, we will only know who's who once the season starts.

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Quote from: Viscore on October 25, 2023, 02:18:11 AM

Quote from: bhadz on October 24, 2023, 02:43:05 PM

``Justin Brownlee wanting his replacement, suggesting that it should be Balkman while he's not yet around. Yes, he was the one suggesting that Ginebra should take Balkman as his replacement.

I mean, sure, they might be friends from their days as teammates, but let's get real for a sec. Is this guy serious? Renaldo Balkman, who I thought was banned from the PBA forever, isn't exactly getting any younger. He's, what, 39 years old now? How's he gonna keep up with these young imports? I get making suggestions, but picking him as a replacement? Nah, I'm not so sure about that.

I don't know about that but that's what I've seen in the news that he's the one that he's suggesting and requesting for the Ginebra to take since he can't play anymore due to sanctions. But the decision will still be depending on the Ginebra's management if they will grant that and I'm not just so sure about the age limit and the physique of Balkman. If they have no choice and he's likely the one that they're about to choose then all they need to do is to call him to play for them. Where can we see the list of the available imports that are available to play in the PBA? I guess that there are a lot of them but since it's Ginebra that's asking for it, that's going to take still a lot of consideration if they'll grant that request or they'll have to go through with a tough selection process because they always want the best for them and to take every season's championship.

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Quote from: bhadz on October 24, 2023, 02:43:05 PM

``Justin Brownlee wanting his replacement, suggesting that it should be Balkman while he's not yet around. Yes, he was the one suggesting that Ginebra should take Balkman as his replacement.

I mean, sure, they might be friends from their days as teammates, but let's get real for a sec. Is this guy serious? Renaldo Balkman, who I thought was banned from the PBA forever, isn't exactly getting any younger. He's, what, 39 years old now? How's he gonna keep up with these young imports? I get making suggestions, but picking him as a replacement? Nah, I'm not so sure about that.

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Quote from: Russlenat on October 24, 2023, 02:11:10 AM

Hey, I've got some good news to share with all of you!

From an initial report of two years, it's now possible that the wait will be reduced to just three months. Pretty great news, isn't it? Here's hoping it becomes a reality!

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He said it starts with JB proving beyond doubt that the carboxy-THC found in his urine sample was due to the medications he had been taking to heal from his bone spur removal in August. It is something Barangay Ginebra governor and Gilas Pilipinas team manager Alfrancis Chua and the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas have been working on already.

It does not mean that Brownlee will escape punishment. It means that his suspension could be reduced significantly to around three months instead of the reported two years. Brownlee's suspension, according to Henson, could even be as short as a month, depending on the "reckoning period."

https://www.onesports.ph/pba/article/16447/door-ajar-for-justin-brownlee-s-pba-return-says-quinito-henson-but-stars-need-to-align

This is good news if it's going to be lessened into a three-month of wait. And there's a news that I have seen recently about Justin Brownlee wanting his replacement, suggesting that it should be Balkman while he's not yet around. Yes, he was the one suggesting that Ginebra should take Balkman as his replacement. And if there's proof that he took those meds for his own medication then that's a strong basis and reasoning that he didn't take it as an enhancement for his game but only for medical purposes. Maybe that reason has been accepted and that's why the penalty or punishment has been reduced.

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Quote from: Wapfika on October 24, 2023, 02:38:08 AM

Honestly speaking, Does anyone find the reason shady? I mean why Brownlee will still play despite he knew that he is in the effect of illegal substance for his injury? Just a curious question since I really like the development of this case.

Personally, I don't find the reason shady because that substance is not PED or performance-enhancing drug, in fact, cannabis is a cure for some of the illnesses that a person has maybe that is the reason why this was mixed on his medication for his injury.

The Ravena case was different because what was found in his urine was PED, that's why he served a 2-year ban from FIBA and the PBA.

Besides, let's just put this way as a reward for JB for leading the Gilas team in winning the Gold on the Asiad. Grin

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Quote from: Wapfika on October 24, 2023, 02:38:08 AM

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He said it starts with JB proving beyond doubt that the carboxy-THC found in his urine sample was due to the medications he had been taking to heal from his bone spur removal in August. It is something Barangay Ginebra governor and Gilas Pilipinas team manager Alfrancis Chua and the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas have been working on already.

It does not mean that Brownlee will escape punishment. It means that his suspension could be reduced significantly to around three months instead of the reported two years. Brownlee's suspension, according to Henson, could even be as short as a month, depending on the "reckoning period."

https://www.onesports.ph/pba/article/16447/door-ajar-for-justin-brownlee-s-pba-return-says-quinito-henson-but-stars-need-to-align

This is indeed a great news. Brownlee is the only import player that gives 101% of his game even on Philippines tournament or international with Gilas. This news makes me respect him even more since he still play despite his recent surgery. Take note that he play extra effort with previous injury and still manage to carry the PH on asia cup.

I’m sure this news makes Chinese fan disappointed because this is their only hope to get a redemption on their Basketball team.

That's because he's not just an ordinary import; he's also a naturalized player of the Philippines. This means he's committed to play in any international competition if his name is called. He could even have played in the FIBA World Cup if he were chosen over JC, but the SBP went with an NBA player instead. Nevertheless, he did get a chance during the Asian Games, and he proved that he might just be the best import, possibly in the history of the Philippines.

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Honestly speaking, Does anyone find the reason shady? I mean why Brownlee will still play despite he knew that he is in the effect of illegal substance for his injury? Just a curious question since I really like the development of this case.

Brownlee didn't confess to using marijuana. The recent news sheds light on the source of that substance, and since it was from his medication, if the authorities consider that a valid justification, the sanction will probably be reduced or perhaps no sanction will be imposed at all.

It only does look shady because we won the championship and this one came out, and we know who hosted the event.

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Quote from: Russlenat on October 24, 2023, 02:11:10 AM

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He said it starts with JB proving beyond doubt that the carboxy-THC found in his urine sample was due to the medications he had been taking to heal from his bone spur removal in August. It is something Barangay Ginebra governor and Gilas Pilipinas team manager Alfrancis Chua and the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas have been working on already.

It does not mean that Brownlee will escape punishment. It means that his suspension could be reduced significantly to around three months instead of the reported two years. Brownlee's suspension, according to Henson, could even be as short as a month, depending on the "reckoning period."

https://www.onesports.ph/pba/article/16447/door-ajar-for-justin-brownlee-s-pba-return-says-quinito-henson-but-stars-need-to-align

This is indeed a great news. Brownlee is the only import player that gives 101% of his game even on Philippines tournament or international with Gilas. This news makes me respect him even more since he still play despite his recent surgery. Take note that he play extra effort with previous injury and still manage to carry the PH on asia cup.

I’m sure this news makes Chinese fan disappointed because this is their only hope to get a redemption on their Basketball team.

Honestly speaking, Does anyone find the reason shady? I mean why Brownlee will still play despite he knew that he is in the effect of illegal substance for his injury? Just a curious question since I really like the development of this case.

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Quote from: Russlenat on October 24, 2023, 02:11:10 AM

Hey, I've got some good news to share with all of you!

From an initial report of two years, it's now possible that the wait will be reduced to just three months. Pretty great news, isn't it? Here's hoping it becomes a reality!

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He said it starts with JB proving beyond doubt that the carboxy-THC found in his urine sample was due to the medications he had been taking to heal from his bone spur removal in August. It is something Barangay Ginebra governor and Gilas Pilipinas team manager Alfrancis Chua and the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas have been working on already.

It does not mean that Brownlee will escape punishment. It means that his suspension could be reduced significantly to around three months instead of the reported two years. Brownlee's suspension, according to Henson, could even be as short as a month, depending on the "reckoning period."

https://www.onesports.ph/pba/article/16447/door-ajar-for-justin-brownlee-s-pba-return-says-quinito-henson-but-stars-need-to-align

Thanks for sharing the good news, but I have to disagree. If Brownlee can prove that the substance found is a result of his medication, there shouldn't be any sanction at all. There's no need to reduce it; it should be a straightforward yes or no decision.

But then, these are just speculations, even though they have a solid basis. What we need to do now is stay optimistic and hope that Justin Brownlee's reputation, and that of the Philippines, remains untarnished.

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