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legendary
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March 31, 2024, 10:57:37 AM
Ok but do you know how much will take an escrow for holding $1050 during one year? If he takes 10% of the funds it will cost $105. In addition we must be sure he won't leave the forum or getting ill during this year. The other issue to address is the price of BTC during this year. What we will do if it makes +100% or -50%? We will let the funds as they are or we will remove or complete the amount before the ceremony?
legendary
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March 31, 2024, 01:05:07 AM
It appears that I have not made the proposal very clear. If Dune 2 is not nominated for all of best picture, best director and best adapted screenplay, I lose the bet. Also, if Dune 2 does not win on all of best picture, best director and best adapted screenplay, I also lose the bet. However, if this movie wins on these 3 categories mentioned, I win 20x of the bet. This is a donation for the other bettor if he accepts hehe.
What do you mean precisely when you say " if Dune 2 does not win on all of best picture, best director and best adapted screenplay, I also lose the bet". Do you mean if Dune 2 doesn't win an Oscar in any of those categories, that is to say if the movie doesn't win one Oscar award at least in one of these 3 categories?
Usually I don't like betting long time before one event and we are 11 months before but I must confess I find that funny to bet against you on those events. And I am ready to risk $1000 for this fun lol

Yes if Dune 2 does not win all of the 3 categories on best picture, best director and best adapted screenplay, I lose the bet. If Dune 2 is also not officially nominated on the same categories for best picture, best director and best adapted screenplay you can collect your money immediately.

Let us escrow the bets to someone who is trustworthy next week if you agree. Also, because the amount of $1000 is very big to bet against my small $50, you can buy out from the bet and pay only 50% of the amount escrowed beginning on October. My bet will have no buy out, it will be my donation for you heheheheheee.
legendary
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March 30, 2024, 05:40:16 PM
It appears that I have not made the proposal very clear. If Dune 2 is not nominated for all of best picture, best director and best adapted screenplay, I lose the bet. Also, if Dune 2 does not win on all of best picture, best director and best adapted screenplay, I also lose the bet. However, if this movie wins on these 3 categories mentioned, I win 20x of the bet. This is a donation for the other bettor if he accepts hehe.
What do you mean precisely when you say " if Dune 2 does not win on all of best picture, best director and best adapted screenplay, I also lose the bet". Do you mean if Dune 2 doesn't win an Oscar in any of those categories, that is to say if the movie doesn't win one Oscar award at least in one of these 3 categories?
Usually I don't like betting long time before one event and we are 11 months before but I must confess I find that funny to bet against you on those events. And I am ready to risk $1000 for this fun lol
legendary
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March 20, 2024, 12:21:40 PM
It appears that I have not made the proposal very clear.
Yep, in your initial proposal you didn't mention what happens if Dune 2 gets nominated in all those categories but doesn't win them (which I think is the most probable scenario), and that's why I said that it will have the same result like your previous bet.

Anyway, if you bet on time Dune winning those categories, I reckon you might get way higher odd than 20 from the bookies.
legendary
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March 19, 2024, 11:32:37 PM
We can bet beginning today. If Dune is not nominated for all of best picture, best director and best adapted screenplay on the oscar awards for 2025, you will win $50. However, if Dune 2 wins best director, best adapted screenplay and best best picture give me 20x odds on my $50. Is asking for 20x odds too much? You can argue for this, however, it is also presently very early to know if Dune 2 will be in the oscar awards. This might be a $50 donation for you hehehe.
An interesting proposal but I think in the end it would end uo like your previous bet- no one winning. Its almost certain that Dune Part 2 will get nominated in those categories you mentioned, while I think its unlikely it wins the Best Picture one. Even though I liked Dune 2, it will be a weak year if that is the best movie of 2024.


@Rikafip. In the cinema, in english, without subtitles.
If they don't show subtitles in your cinema, that means you are from English speaking country?



Also, if you have HBO Max or HBO Go, Dune 2 might be available on April 15.
Or if you don't mind downloading from trackers. Wink Anyway, looking forward to April 15th to watch it once again.

It appears that I have not made the proposal very clear. If Dune 2 is not nominated for all of best picture, best director and best adapted screenplay, I lose the bet. Also, if Dune 2 does not win on all of best picture, best director and best adapted screenplay, I also lose the bet. However, if this movie wins on these 3 categories mentioned, I win 20x of the bet. This is a donation for the other bettor if he accepts hehe.
sr. member
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March 19, 2024, 02:42:25 PM
Slash retired from mainstream in effect I think, I've seen him doing more low key shows with a singer thats not Axyl Rose because they dont get on [actually Im out of date the old group do play together now but still they are old guard greats Tongue]
You can only be at the top tier of mainstream famous for so long then you become a Legend and ironically legends can be forgotten until a new generation discovers their work as if its new and finds greatness again  Cool Cool

Theres going to be some people watching the Oscars who only know the younger actors, they wont really have a clue who Anthony Hopkins is and he did actually win an Oscar in recent years so theres no excuse but it wasnt a young persons film at all.  Thats almost worst because Oscars is probably more about the actors and those known on screen but I realize its awards for everyone within a production as well.   John Williams might be the most famous of all with 50 nominations, it would be silly to say but perhaps some dont know who he is either.

A while back the stunt men wanted an oscar put into as a category because so much of the work they do remains essential and they give up alot to do the job quite often.  But it appears thats one hidden job that wont be uncovered especially this time, maybe because they are often look alikes its confusing possibly.

Maybe what you saw was Slash together with Myles Kennedy, they have a band and it's been going on for over 10 years, they've released some good records.

Slash reunited with Axl Rose in 2016, on April 1st at the Troubadour, the story behind it is pretty cool, it was celebrating April Fools' Day with a surprise Guns N' Roses reunion show (who would believe it?) haha, I thought: it was a genius marketing move.

The new generation will never really know who the great actors of the past are and what they represent in the history of cinema. The Oscar lost a little meaning for me, it has established quotas to compete for the big prize. The main requirement to compete should be art and nothing else.
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legendary
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March 19, 2024, 01:18:42 PM
Slash retired from mainstream in effect I think, I've seen him doing more low key shows with a singer thats not Axyl Rose because they dont get on [actually Im out of date the old group do play together now but still they are old guard greats Tongue]
You can only be at the top tier of mainstream famous for so long then you become a Legend and ironically legends can be forgotten until a new generation discovers their work as if its new and finds greatness again  Cool Cool

Theres going to be some people watching the Oscars who only know the younger actors, they wont really have a clue who Anthony Hopkins is and he did actually win an Oscar in recent years so theres no excuse but it wasnt a young persons film at all.  Thats almost worst because Oscars is probably more about the actors and those known on screen but I realize its awards for everyone within a production as well.   John Williams might be the most famous of all with 50 nominations, it would be silly to say but perhaps some dont know who he is either.

A while back the stunt men wanted an oscar put into as a category because so much of the work they do remains essential and they give up alot to do the job quite often.  But it appears thats one hidden job that wont be uncovered especially this time, maybe because they are often look alikes its confusing possibly.
legendary
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March 19, 2024, 01:00:49 PM
We can bet beginning today. If Dune is not nominated for all of best picture, best director and best adapted screenplay on the oscar awards for 2025, you will win $50. However, if Dune 2 wins best director, best adapted screenplay and best best picture give me 20x odds on my $50. Is asking for 20x odds too much? You can argue for this, however, it is also presently very early to know if Dune 2 will be in the oscar awards. This might be a $50 donation for you hehehe.
An interesting proposal but I think in the end it would end uo like your previous bet- no one winning. Its almost certain that Dune Part 2 will get nominated in those categories you mentioned, while I think its unlikely it wins the Best Picture one. Even though I liked Dune 2, it will be a weak year if that is the best movie of 2024.


@Rikafip. In the cinema, in english, without subtitles.
If they don't show subtitles in your cinema, that means you are from English speaking country?



Also, if you have HBO Max or HBO Go, Dune 2 might be available on April 15.
Or if you don't mind downloading from trackers. Wink Anyway, looking forward to April 15th to watch it once again.
sr. member
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March 18, 2024, 10:59:33 AM
Do you believe in the aberration that internet sites have become?

I came across the bizarre news of a giant Brazilian website explaining who the guitarist who played with Ryan Gosling during the 2024 Oscars was... That's right, people from the new generation or even current journalists don't know who SLASH is? ?? Oh my god what a world we are in.


https://revistaquem.globo.com/entretenimento/series-e-filmes/noticia/2024/03/quem-e-slash-o-guitarrista-que-tocou-com-ryan-gosling-no-oscar-2024.ghtml
legendary
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March 17, 2024, 09:47:46 PM
Don't tell me that you watched Dune 2 via some bad cam rip??

By the way, I just came back home from the cinema, watched the Dune. It was a good movie but honestly I liked the first one a little bit more. Unfortunately I don't think that it has the quality to win Best Picture but then again,  much worse movies won it so why not Dune 2.
wow I was about to go to watch it at cinema but if you didn't like it better than the first movie, I think I'm not going to watch it this time. I didn't like the first Dune at all, I found it very boring and worse than the "original" movie from David Lynch, released in 1984. Many people say Dune II is way better, but it doesn't seem to be unanimous finally. If I don't find it better than the first one, it will be my bet against bbc.reporter next year maybe lol  Grin

We can bet beginning today. If Dune is not nominated for all of best picture, best director and best adapted screenplay on the oscar awards for 2025, you will win $50. However, if Dune 2 wins best director, best adapted screenplay and best best picture give me 20x odds on my $50. Is asking for 20x odds too much? You can argue for this, however, it is also presently very early to know if Dune 2 will be in the oscar awards. This might be a $50 donation for you hehehe.

@Rikafip. In the cinema, in english, without subtitles. On streaming, in english, with subtitles. Also, if you have HBO Max or HBO Go, Dune 2 might be available on April 15.
legendary
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March 17, 2024, 12:57:13 PM
wow I was about to go to watch it at cinema but if you didn't like it better than the first movie, I think I won't watch it this time. I didn't like the first Dune at all, I found it very boring and worse than the "original" movie from david Lynch in 1984. Many people say Dune II is way better, but it doesn't seem to be unanimous finally.
Its just my personal opinion so imho you shouldn't base your decision whether to watch it at cinema how I see it.

Friends I went to the cinema with liked the 2nd more than the first one so there's that. 2nd part is also more visually impressive so that's another good reason to watch it at the cinema. What I know though is that I am looking for forward to Dune Messiah which should come in the next few years.
legendary
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March 17, 2024, 12:48:42 PM
Don't tell me that you watched Dune 2 via some bad cam rip??

By the way, I just came back home from the cinema, watched the Dune. It was a good movie but honestly I liked the first one a little bit more. Unfortunately I don't think that it has the quality to win Best Picture but then again,  much worse movies won it so why not Dune 2.
wow I was about to go to watch it at cinema but if you didn't like it better than the first movie, I think I'm not going to watch it this time. I didn't like the first Dune at all, I found it very boring and worse than the "original" movie from David Lynch, released in 1984. Many people say Dune II is way better, but it doesn't seem to be unanimous finally. If I don't find it better than the first one, it will be my bet against bbc.reporter next year maybe lol  Grin
legendary
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March 16, 2024, 03:47:50 AM
@Rikafip. I watched it in the cinema. If you did not like it better than part 1, I reckon you should watch it alone in the cinema again or wait for it on streaming services to watch with subtitles.
But I did watch it with subititles, and cinema was almost empty so I wasn't distracted with other people. Btw, cinemas in your country don't have subtitles, movies are dubbed? If yes, that's horrible.  Tongue


I will be on my second viewing later with friends.
I think I am going to wait for it to comes to the "videostores" to watch it for the 2nd time.
legendary
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March 15, 2024, 09:18:20 PM
@Rikafip. I watched it in the cinema. If you did not like it better than part 1, I reckon you should watch it alone in the cinema again or wait for it on streaming services to watch with subtitles. I will be on my second viewing later with friends. I am pretending that I have not watched it before hehehehe. Gurney is very much alive this is shocking I am very excited heheehe. Duncan might also be alive hehehee.
legendary
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March 15, 2024, 04:14:27 PM
@Rikafip. I cannot disagree on Anatomy of the fall. It is a very good movie and I also would argue that Sandra Hüller gave the best performance among the best actress nominations.

+1, if it's up to me Sandra Huller would have won the Oscar and not Emma Stone, but can't say it was undeserving that Emma won either.


On Dune 2, yes I have watched it already. I need another viewing and a 3rd one with subtitles hehe. I am starting to speculate that it might also have a chance to win best cinematography, editing, sound, production design, best costume design, the best musical score and some of the awards where it will be nominated heheheheh.
Don't tell me that you watched Dune 2 via some bad cam rip??

By the way, I just came back home from the cinema, watched the Dune. It was a good movie but honestly I liked the first one a little bit more. Unfortunately I don't think that it has the quality to win Best Picture but then again,  much worse movies won it so why not Dune 2.
legendary
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March 13, 2024, 10:21:01 PM
@Rikafip. I cannot disagree on Anatomy of the fall. It is a very good movie and I also would argue that Sandra Hüller gave the best performance among the best actress nominations.

On Dune 2, yes I have watched it already. I need another viewing and a 3rd one with subtitles hehe. I am starting to speculate that it might also have a chance to win best cinematography, editing, sound, production design, best costume design, the best musical score and some of the awards where it will be nominated heheheheh.
legendary
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March 12, 2024, 11:33:33 AM
No the bet was on Sandra Hüller, but we agreed to replace her by Emma Stone with a different payout, if she didn't qualify to avoid wasting time and money for nothing precisely.
Ah I see, thanks for the explanation. For some reason I thought bet was more straighforwrad and that it only included Emma Stone and Lily Gladstone.

@Rikafip. You were right on Anatomy of the fall for best original screenplay, I was very much in love with the Holdovers.
I also agree that Holdovers is a better film, but I liked Anataomy of a Fall very much too so I don't mind it winning the Oscar as I think it was deserved.


Dune 2 will be next year's best director, best picture and best adapted screenplay winners!
Since you are so sure, better bet as soon as possible to profit from those nice odds. By the way, have you seen the movie yet?
legendary
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March 12, 2024, 02:24:25 AM
Agreed! However, on the present situation, a 3 satoshi fee that you paid will take many years before this will be confirmed hehehehee. In any case, I increased the fee to be included on the next block. Also, thank you and see you next year hehehe.

@Rikafip. You were right on Anatomy of the fall for best original screenplay, I was very much in love with the Holdovers.

Dune 2 will be next year's best director, best picture and best adapted screenplay winners!
Sorry bro, since you sent them almost 3 months ago, I thought you didn't need them very quickly and 14.8sat/byte would be enough. Blockchair was saying the transaction could be confirmed the next day so I was confident it could be done in the coming days at worst, anyway I could add more fees if it took too much time since I sent it in RBF. Glad all is done now though.  Smiley

legendary
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March 11, 2024, 11:22:57 PM
@Saint-loup. There is no winner in our bet. Kindly return the coins to bc1q2cxuaksp48qmdpm6r6k596yd2vvxnp9z9wunre thank you very much.
Well it's sad to wait such a long time and spend tx fees for nothing, since no one has won anything at the end but it is what it is.
I just sent you back 1mbtc to the address you ask for :
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/c7e17d92eedd8240d80235f2f59cc07b478216cc24eae3c3c92d7b63cab60c93

Agreed! However, on the present situation, a 3 satoshi fee that you paid will take many years before this will be confirmed hehehehee. In any case, I increased the fee to be included on the next block. Also, thank you and see you next year hehehe.

@Rikafip. You were right on Anatomy of the fall for best original screenplay, I was very much in love with the Holdovers.

Dune 2 will be next year's best director, best picture and best adapted screenplay winners!
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legendary
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March 11, 2024, 05:21:19 PM
I agree big money films wont be altered in their course especially but still its a detail that matters as not every film not even the Oscar winners is that size of production and cost.

Theres an influence from their change in rules, its small print that lawyers will have to examine but its more then that basic 1 week now.  The theatre shares of a few major indebted companies might benefit a bit from that additional requirement rolling out.  Im not a big fan of how expensive its gotten nowadays I was always just a casual low key theater goer in the 'cheap seats' type of way.
   Theres a bit of conflict and fight for revenue over the various ways a film can be released, its part of technology kinda related to the whole online thing we're part of imo but sure there's nothing like a proper theater release in that exact way.

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Oscars' new streaming rule explained - and how it will impact the Best Picture award
The Academy Awards has new rules that expanded the theatrical requirement for films to qualify for Best Picture this year.


This expanded theatrical run for Best Picture contenders had to have been finished by Jan. 24.

Eligibility for other categories were not be affected by this new requirement.

“As we do every year, we have been reviewing and assessing our theatrical eligibility requirements for the Oscars,” academy chief executive Bill Kramer and academy president Janet Yang said in a joint statement.

“In support of our mission to celebrate and honor the arts and sciences of moviemaking, it is our hope that this expanded theatrical footprint will increase the visibility of films worldwide and encourage audiences to experience our artform in a theatrical setting. Based on many conversations with industry partners, we feel that this evolution benefits film artists and movie lovers alike.”


They expanded the theatrical requirement for films to qualify for Best Picture at the 97th Academy Awards. So films needed to have spent more time in the theaters to qualify for the coveted nomination.

Under the new rules, a film needs to continue its run beyond the previous requirement — a one-week theatrical release in one of six U.S. qualifying cities — to be eligible for Best Picture, according to the L.A. Times.

Films need to add an additional theatrical run of seven days, consecutive or nonconsecutive, and it must happen in 10 of the top 50 U.S. markets, no later than 45 days after the initial release in 2024. (Non-U.S. territory releases can count toward two of the 10 markets.)

Heres the winners in a list:
  • Best Picture: Oppenheimer

    Best Actress: Emma Stone - Poor Things

    Best Actor: Cillian Murphy - Oppenheimer

    Best Director: Christopher Nolan - Oppenheimer

    Supporting Actress: Da'Vine Joy Randolph - The Holdovers

    Supporting Actor: Robert Downey Jr. - Oppenheimer

    Original Song: Billie Eilish and Finneas O'Connell - What Was I Made For? from Barbie

    Original Score - Ludwig Göransson - Oppenheimer

    Cinematography: Hoyte van Hoytema - Oppenheimer

    Achievement in Film Editing: Jennifer Lame - Oppenheimer

    Production Design: James Price and Shona Heath; Set Decoration: Zsuzsa Mihale - Poor Things

    Make-up and Hairstyling: Nadia Stacey, Mark Coulier and Josh Weston - Poor Things

    Achievement in Costume Design: Holly Waddington - Poor Things

    Original Screenplay: Justine Triet and Arthur Harari - Anatomy Of A Fall

    Adapted Screenplay: Cord Jefferson - American Fiction

    International Feature Film - The Zone of Interest from United Kingdom

Great speech by Cillian Murphy considering where he is from, the context of everything he said is eternally true.
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