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Quote from: Rikafip on November 25, 2023, 05:05:15 AM

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It makes it feel very much similar to CODA where if The Holdovers is nominated, it might be the weakest nominated movie, however, it might get the heart of the voters in the Academy of motion picture arts and sciences.

What I meant to ask is why would it feel more like CODA if you watched the better copy? You mean it would be even a better movie?

It might be because the feeling I had while watching the bad copy might not be as good if I watched a good copy where I can see what the director wanted me to see, hear what he wanted me to hear and feel what he wanted me to feel. We might be losing some of this when we watch movies with a bad copy.

In any case, I will watch it again if a good copy is available and I can be quite certain that the Holdovers will be more beautiful, more funny and I will get the real feeling of what this movie was created for. Best original screenplay hhehehehe!

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 24, 2023, 08:55:18 PM

It makes it feel very much similar to CODA where if The Holdovers is nominated, it might be the weakest nominated movie, however, it might get the heart of the voters in the Academy of motion picture arts and sciences.

What I meant to ask is why would it feel more like CODA if you watched the better copy? You mean it would be even a better movie?

Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 24, 2023, 08:55:18 PM

However, it can be argued that CODA has a message to be more aware on people with hearing disabilities. This might be the agenda and it might be why it won the votes.

That, and another big factor for the win is having the lead female character. Regarding hearing disability theme, for me personally much better was Sound of Metal made one year before CODA that was Oscar nominated and managed to win 2 in the end.

By the way, thanks for the link. I just checked the website and The Holdovers picture quality is just horrendous, reminded me of first cam rips I saw back in the 90s (if I remember correctly first cam rip for me was Independence Day as I couldn't wait for it to come to cinema in my country.)

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Quote from: Rikafip on November 24, 2023, 12:46:12 AM

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It was also a bad copy, however, I know if I watch it with a good copy once available, this movie might be a feeling that is something similar to Coda.

I don't understand this part, why would it make it feel more like CODA (which was imho one of the weakest Best Picture winners in recent years).

It makes it feel very much similar to CODA where if The Holdovers is nominated, it might be the weakest nominated movie, however, it might get the heart of the voters in the Academy of motion picture arts and sciences. Also, if it will not be nominated for best picture, I am quite certain this will be nominated for best original screenplay.

However, it can be argued that CODA has a message to be more aware on people with hearing disabilities. This might be the agenda and it might be why it won the votes. The Holdovers does not have this type of strong message for viewers.

@Kakmakr. I had a similar argument, however, the voters of the academy have their own agenda and have their own storylines to spread instead of the storylines we see in mainstream news media.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on November 24, 2023, 01:45:52 AM

Well, in my opinion with all the conflict going on in the world, we need a movie like "Oppenheimer" to get the Best Picture award. It sends out a strong message that Nuclear War are stupid and should be avoided at all cost.

Having watched Oppenheimer, I don't think that Nolan sent a strong message at all. I mean, I am a big fan of post apocalyptic/nuclear war films and probably saw vast majority of the important ones ( The War Game, Dead Man's Letters, Threads, Fail Safe, The Day After, When The Winds Blow, Special Bulletin, Testament etc) and I didn't feel even remotely as bad (actually, not bad/worried at all) after watching Oppenheimer, like I did with the movies I just mentioned and my guess is neither are others.

With that being said, Oscar awards will again be relevant and regain its popularity when they stop sending messages and actually start awarding the best movies.

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Well, in my opinion with all the conflict going on in the world, we need a movie like "Oppenheimer" to get the Best Picture award. It sends out a strong message that Nuclear War are stupid and should be avoided at all cost.

We have "Rocket Man" in North Korea with an itchy finger, but this movie will most probably never be seen there.. because they see this as western propaganda. Roll Eyes

We currently have nations in conflict with the ability to use nuclear weapons, so highlighting the absolute craziness to use weapons of mass destruction... are absolutely necessary now.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 22, 2023, 11:51:07 PM

@Rikafip. I watched The Holdovers through an illegal streaming website hehehe.

Ah that explains it. I gave up on watching cam rips long time ago as I don't wanna ruin my expeirence by watching something I might like in shitty audio and video quality. Out of curiosity, can you please send me link of that streaming website via PM as I am curious how bad copy is, as I didn't find it on streaming websites I sometimes use.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 22, 2023, 11:51:07 PM

It was also a bad copy, however, I know if I watch it with a good copy once available, this movie might be a feeling that is something similar to Coda.

I don't understand this part, why would it make it feel more like CODA (which was imho one of the weakest Best Picture winners in recent years).

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 14, 2023, 01:06:19 AM

The slapping of Chris Rock occurred during 2022 Oscar ceremomies. The Academy of motion pictures arts and science asked Chris Rock to be the host again for the 2023 ceremonies which I speculate that the slapping could be used for marketing hehe. However, Chris Rock did not accept. He said it would be something similar to returning to a crime scene hehehehe.

Rock's decision is understandable. The slapping incident was a traumatic experience for him, and it is likely that he is still processing it. Returning to the Oscars could potentially trigger anxiety or other negative emotions.

Maybe Rock thinks of being there will give Smith any more attention. By declining the offer to host the Oscars, Rock is taking away the opportunity for Smith to make another apology or to try to justify his actions. This could be a way for Rock to regain control of the narrative and to ensure that the focus is on his work, not on the slapping incident.

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Oppenheimer odds are too short to want to bet at this early stage. Is it impossible now for a film to be released in the last weeks of the year and qualify, I wasnt aware it would end this early or did I misread that schedule that way.
My outsider bet would be Barbie at 17x It would be a surprise for sure but at 17x odds you have to a take a long chance it might be the film that some thought was most qualified. Im not decided on this idea but alot of people said it had a bigger frame to it and that sounds like it could be an oscar deal. I dont know, Im just mentioning I will think about it.

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@Rikafip. I watched The Holdovers through an illegal streaming website hehehe. It was also a bad copy, however, I know if I watch it with a good copy once available, this movie might be a feeling that is something similar to Coda. I would not be shocked if much of the academy members voted for this and won for best picture.

Also, Paul Giamatti was very good for this movie but it might not win him an Oscar. I am curious on Willem Dafoe's performance. He might be best supporting actor hehe.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 21, 2023, 12:07:22 AM

This weekend I watched the Killers The Flower Moon, the Past Lives and the Holdovers.

You lucky bastard! Grin

Holdovers is coming here in January but I hope that decent quality screener will leak before that, as it usually happen during Oscar season. I have really high hopes for that movie,mainly because I loved Payne-Giamatti combo in Sideways so I happy to hear that you have such a high opinion on it.

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Quote from: Rikafip on November 06, 2023, 10:00:14 AM

Regarding the ones that will probably be nominated, so far I watched Past Lives and Anatomy of A Fall and while both are good movies, I liked former more and so far it has been the most I saw this year. I am waiting for Oppenheimer and Killers of The Flower Moon to come on streaming sites while The Killer (the one I am very interested in because its Fincher's movie) is coming to Netflix in a few days (November 8th).

This weekend I watched the Killers The Flower Moon, the Past Lives and the Holdovers.

On Killers of The Flower Moon, I was not very happy watching this movie. It gave me a similar bored feeling as Oppenheimer and yes I watched it with subtitles.

On Past Lives, I liked the movie especially the beginning. Watching it going to the ending began some boring moments, however, my curiousity on how it will end kept me absorbed by the movie. This movie might be my bet for best cinematography if it is nominated.

On the Holdovers, as of now this is the best movie of the list. My bet for best original screenplay. This is a winner! I wish the odds will be big hhehe.

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@Rikafip. Poor Things is removed from the list hehe. I only assumed it was released already because it is in the sportsbooks' list for best picture already. I watched the trailer and this gave me a feeling that is something similar to Everything Everywhere All At Once. It might be the best picture winner if the voters vote like they have done last year, I reckon.

Also on Rottentomatoes, the early reviews are very good and they declare that Emma Stone might win for best actress. She is also the favorite in the sportsbooks this early, very much similar to Michelle Yeoh for her performance on Everything Everywhere hehehehe.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 16, 2023, 11:41:32 PM

No, I might have a hearing problem hehehe. Also or movies that have much dialogue, I like to have the subtitles on for me to be more absorbed by the movie very much like reading a book.

Hah, its exactly the same situation for me. I started having hearing problems in certain situations few years ago so its also a problem for me to watch movies subtitles. I mean, I can watch it but I may miss some words here and there while I want to hear absolutely every word while watching.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 16, 2023, 11:41:32 PM

In any case, my list to watch for Saturday and Sunday will be Killers of the Flowermoon, Poor Things and the Holdovers. There is also a movie by Bradley Cooper with the title Maestro. He starred, directed and produced this movie.

Poor Things already showing in cinema at your place? Here it comes in 3 weeks.

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Quote from: Rikafip on November 14, 2023, 06:28:36 AM

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@Rikafip. You are lucky you only watched it in your home with subtitles. I watched it in the cinema and I was scratching my head and telling myself that this movie is not for the big screen.

What was the issue? You couldn't understand the conversations without subtitles or something?

While I love going to cinema, the main reason I didn't watch Oppenheimer that way is because its simply too long for me to watch it that way. I just can't force myself to sit in cinema chair for 3 hours straight and for the same reason I didn't watch Killers of The Flower Moon which is even longer (almost 3 and a half hours).

No, I might have a hearing problem hehehe. Also or movies that have much dialogue, I like to have the subtitles on for me to be more absorbed by the movie very much like reading a book.

In any case, my list to watch for Saturday and Sunday will be Killers of the Flowermoon, Poor Things and the Holdovers. There is also a movie by Bradley Cooper with the title Maestro. He starred, directed and produced this movie.

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Honestly, as someone who has watched Oppenheimer, that movie deserves an Oscar without a doubt, there is no other movie that was made all this year since the last Oscars that could be even remotely as close to that as possible.

I mean just the very last sentence is chilling, "I think we did", anyone who watched it knows what I am talking about, I do not want to give any spoilers, but that alone, from Cillian Murphy, is just unbelievable. I have watched many scary movies in my life, I love them, and yet I can tell you that none of them ended as scary as that because it's the reality we are living in right now. That is why I have to say that this movie was definitely the best movie there ever was without a doubt, best movie I have seen in many years.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 14, 2023, 01:06:19 AM

@Rikafip. You are lucky you only watched it in your home with subtitles. I watched it in the cinema and I was scratching my head and telling myself that this movie is not for the big screen.

What was the issue? You couldn't understand the conversations without subtitles or something?

While I love going to cinema, the main reason I didn't watch Oppenheimer that way is because its simply too long for me to watch it that way. I just can't force myself to sit in cinema chair for 3 hours straight and for the same reason I didn't watch Killers of The Flower Moon which is even longer (almost 3 and a half hours).

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Keep in mind, these awards were consistently losing relevance and public until something as unhinged as that happened and became viral.

Incident from last year won't make it any more popular or relevant. On the other hand, what will make it more relevant is when they finally stop to push their agenda but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Politics aside. Don't you remember the reaction people had once Will Smith slapped Chirs in the face? It completely give a lot of attention to the Oscars, even people who did not follow the awards was aware of what happened and commented about it and also, it is not a lie or an exaggeration those awards were going through a period of decadence since some years ago, whether because the agenda you talk about or because people were simply not as interested as before.
I would even dare to say more people are keeping an eye on this year's edition because of the scandal of Will Smith, staged or not. It would not stop the organizers to try to pull off something to keep people hooked on their event.

The slapping of Chris Rock occurred during 2022 Oscar ceremomies. The Academy of motion pictures arts and science asked Chris Rock to be the host again for the 2023 ceremonies which I speculate that the slapping could be used for marketing hehe. However, Chris Rock did not accept. He said it would be something similar to returning to a crime scene hehehehe.

@Rikafip. You are lucky you only watched it in your home with subtitles. I watched it in the cinema and I was scratching my head and telling myself that this movie is not for the big screen.

That is the kind of thing I mean. The academy probably wanted to carry the some of the attention of the slap he received to this next edition of the Oscars, but it was fruitless.
It is a weird thing Chris Rock decided not to host the event again, if I had to guess I would say he wants to distance as much as possible from what happened there and focus in his professional career, instead being remembered from what happened there. There is also possible he thought that accepting such honor again would have implied to joke or make references about what happened while on the stage, which probably could erode the friendship between him and Will Smith even further, among other actresses and actors who did not laughed at the circus which took place last year.
It is a wise choice by him in the long term, not to squish as much money and fame out the stupidness of Will.

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Quote from: Hispo on November 07, 2023, 04:46:53 PM

Keep in mind, these awards were consistently losing relevance and public until something as unhinged as that happened and became viral.

Incident from last year won't make it any more popular or relevant. On the other hand, what will make it more relevant is when they finally stop to push their agenda but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Politics aside. Don't you remember the reaction people had once Will Smith slapped Chirs in the face? It completely give a lot of attention to the Oscars, even people who did not follow the awards was aware of what happened and commented about it and also, it is not a lie or an exaggeration those awards were going through a period of decadence since some years ago, whether because the agenda you talk about or because people were simply not as interested as before.
I would even dare to say more people are keeping an eye on this year's edition because of the scandal of Will Smith, staged or not. It would not stop the organizers to try to pull off something to keep people hooked on their event.

The slapping of Chris Rock occurred during 2022 Oscar ceremomies. The Academy of motion pictures arts and science asked Chris Rock to be the host again for the 2023 ceremonies which I speculate that the slapping could be used for marketing hehe. However, Chris Rock did not accept. He said it would be something similar to returning to a crime scene hehehehe.

@Rikafip. You are lucky you only watched it in your home with subtitles. I watched it in the cinema and I was scratching my head and telling myself that this movie is not for the big screen.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 13, 2023, 12:56:39 AM

It was not staged. Did everyone see Chris Rock's counterattack in his newest stand up special? It was very brutally truthful. Everyone should watch it. He was also premiering it in the town where his wife grew up.

That's what people do now, spread all sorts of conspiracy theories out of ignorance.

By the way, I finally saw Oppenheimer and while its a decent movie, I really don't understand the hype around it and especially I don't see a reason for it being a favorite to for a Best Picture. At least two movies (that will probably end up among nomineed) I saw this year were clearly superior (Past Lives and Anatomy of a Fall) and I still have to watch Killers Of The Flowers Moon.

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Quote from: Rikafip on November 09, 2023, 12:21:02 PM

Quote from: Hispo on November 07, 2023, 04:46:53 PM

Keep in mind, these awards were consistently losing relevance and public until something as unhinged as that happened and became viral.

Incident from last year won't make it any more popular or relevant. On the other hand, what will make it more relevant is when they finally stop to push their agenda but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Politics aside. Don't you remember the reaction people had once Will Smith slapped Chirs in the face? It completely give a lot of attention to the Oscars, even people who did not follow the awards was aware of what happened and commented about it and also, it is not a lie or an exaggeration those awards were going through a period of decadence since some years ago, whether because the agenda you talk about or because people were simply not as interested as before.
I would even dare to say more people are keeping an eye on this year's edition because of the scandal of Will Smith, staged or not. It would not stop the organizers to try to pull off something to keep people hooked on their event.

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