Topic: 2024 Oscar Awards bets and discussions - page 5. (Read 2088 times)
I'm a bit surprised to see Poor Things with such number of nominations while not being much appreciated by the critics and the audience. Personally I don't like very much this movie because it is neither funny nor dramatic, and uses too many visual effects for such a story. I hope it won't get many awards. Anyway now bookmakers think Emma Stone has more chances to win the Best actress award than Lily Gladstone.
@Rikafip. The voters will not ignore Fantasia who is someone who grew up as a minority in America. They will want this representation to be shown during awarding night.
Carey Mulligan is a British actress and Sandra Hüller is a German. Both of them foreigners and one of them might not be included.
Yet Fantasia didn't get nomination while both Sandra Huller and Carey Mulligan did. I told you that you are too pessimistic and that there's no way that Sandra doesn't get nominated. Woke agenda is strong, but its not that strong to base nominations solely on that factor.Carey Mulligan is a British actress and Sandra Hüller is a German. Both of them foreigners and one of them might not be included.
So, nominations have finally be announced and as expected Oppenheimer leads with 13, followed by Poor Things that got 11 and Killers of the Flower Moon with 10.
Full list https://variety.com/2024/film/awards/oscar-nominations-2024-list-1235877798/
@Rikafip. The voters will not ignore Fantasia who is someone who grew up as a minority in America. They will want this representation to be shown during awarding night. It will be very good for the camera hehehehe. Carey Mulligan is a British actress and Sandra Hüller is a German. Both of them foreigners and one of them might not be included.
In any case, the announcement for the official nominees is coming, we will know them very soon hehe.
After months of campaigning and debating, awards watchers are about to have the biggest piece of that puzzle when the Oscar nominations are finally announced on Tuesday, Jan. 23, at 8:30 a.m. ET/5:30 a.m. PT.
Source https://ew.com/how-to-watch-2024-oscar-nominations-livestream-8536115
In any case, the announcement for the official nominees is coming, we will know them very soon hehe.
After months of campaigning and debating, awards watchers are about to have the biggest piece of that puzzle when the Oscar nominations are finally announced on Tuesday, Jan. 23, at 8:30 a.m. ET/5:30 a.m. PT.
Source https://ew.com/how-to-watch-2024-oscar-nominations-livestream-8536115
We can be quite certain that Lily Gladstone and Emma Stone will be included. This fight for the last best actress nominee slot will be between Hüller and Mulligan.
I would add Sandra Huller in that mix of 100% nomination chance (along with Margot Robbie) and imho fight will be between Mulligan and Fantasia Barrino but I think that in the end former will end up getting nominated. Don't be so pessimistic. Woke agenda is indeed strong in Hollywood but every once in a while they do a right thing and deserving persons get nominated and even win the awards.
If we remove the Hollywood agenda, the politics and judge only from their performances, I think Sandra Hüller gave the best performace. However, we do not know if she will be included in the nominated best actress list hehehe. I wish she will because I would like to lose with her as my bet against @Saint-loup heheheheheh.
No chance in hell that Sandra Huller doesn't get the nomination so no worries about that. I disagree. There are only 5 slots for best actress nominees in the Oscar awards and we cannot underestimate Barbie's Margo Robbie, who might be the voters of the woke agenda's favorite hehehe. We also cannot ignore Fantasia Barrino from the Color Purple who will also be nominated by the voters of the woke agenda. The other leading nominees are Lily Gladstone, Emma Stone, Carey Mulligan and Sandra Hüller. We can be quite certain that Lily Gladstone and Emma Stone will be included. This fight for the last best actress nominee slot will be between Hüller and Mulligan.
I don't know man, the topic is opened since september and you're the first one, since only 2days, saying she shouldn't be nominated in this category, and I haven't heard of such controversy anywhere else. She is nominated for the best Female Actor in a Leading Role by the Actors Guild for the SAG awards, she won a Golden Globes in a leading role category without any controversy and bookmakers still seem to think she will get nominated for the Best actress Oscar.
https://www.sagaftra.org/nominations-announced-30th-annual-screen-actors-guild-awards%C2%AE
Yeah I know its not a popular opinion, but there are more who think like me (and obviously BAFTA people as well). I would understand if she gets nomination for leading actress despite the low screen time if she has memorable scenes where she outacted everyone else and dominated the screen at the time, but honestly I can't think of a single scene like and its only been a week since I saw the movie. In a year or two no one will remember her performance. https://www.sagaftra.org/nominations-announced-30th-annual-screen-actors-guild-awards%C2%AE
My opinion still stands, that only reason she gets into Lead Actress mix is due the subject and Apple spending God knows how much on the Oscar campaign. That all of course doesn't mean that she won't win an Oscar and that's one of the reasons why that award is lossing its relevance, which in the end is a bad thing for all of us who love movies.
I think that everyone (or at least majority) is aware of the fact that instead of her was a white actress dealing about some other non sensitive stuff, she would never get a leading actress nomination. Sure, we can talk about support category, but she simply doesn't have enough screen time to be considered as a leading role.
They are obviously aware of that in UK, therefore they didn't nominate her for BAFTAhtt while in the Hollywood they still feel guilty over what they did to native americans (and minorities in general) in the past and trying to feel better about themselves this way.
I don't know man, the topic is opened since september and you're the first one, since only 2days, saying she shouldn't be nominated in this category, and I haven't heard of such controversy anywhere else. She is nominated for the best Female Actor in a Leading Role by the Actors Guild for the SAG awards, she won a Golden Globes in a leading role category without any controversy and bookmakers still seem to think she will get nominated for the Best actress Oscar. They are obviously aware of that in UK, therefore they didn't nominate her for BAFTAhtt while in the Hollywood they still feel guilty over what they did to native americans (and minorities in general) in the past and trying to feel better about themselves this way.
https://www.sagaftra.org/nominations-announced-30th-annual-screen-actors-guild-awards%C2%AE
For example I think the exact opposite of you, I think it would be well deserved for the movie and for herself as well as the (two) standing ovation she got from the audience at the Golden Globes.
I think that everyone (or at least majority) is aware of the fact that instead of her was a white actress dealing about some other non sensitive stuff, she would never get a leading actress nomination. Sure, we can talk about support category, but she simply doesn't have enough screen time to be considered as a leading role.They are obviously aware of that in UK, therefore they didn't nominate her for BAFTAhtt while in the Hollywood they still feel guilty over what they did to native americans (and minorities in general) in the past and trying to feel better about themselves this way.
In other news, BAFTA nominations are out. Oppenheimer is the leader with 13 nominations, followed by Poor Things that got 11 and Killers of the Flower Moon with 9. What's inteersting though is that Lily Gladstone didn't get nominated in Best Actress/Best Supporting Actress category. 
Full list https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-68016520
Yes and a very interesting thing is that Sandra Hüller is nominated in both catogeries(leading actress and supporting one).Full list https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-68016520
Bbc.reporter also didn't report it but Emma Stone won the Best actress award of the Critics Choice Awards while Lily Gladstone and Hüller were nominated in this category, so nothing is done for now!
https://www.bafta.org/film/awards/2024-nominations-winners#leading-actress
https://www.bafta.org/film/awards/2024-nominations-winners#supporting-actress
https://www.criticschoice.com/2024/01/15/oppenheimer-wins-best-picture-at-the-29th-annual-critics-choice-awards/
https://www.criticschoice.com/2023/12/13/film-nominations-announced-for-the-29th-annual-critics-choice-awards-hosted-by-chelsea-handler/
All that is completely irrelevant when it comes to personal opinion about a movie. Everything Everywhere All At Once won 7 Oscars last year while I coulnd't even finsih the movie and I probably won't give it another try.
If we remove the Hollywood agenda, the politics and judge only from their performances, I think Sandra Hüller gave the best performace. However, we do not know if she will be included in the nominated best actress list hehehe. I wish she will because I would like to lose with her as my bet against @Saint-loup heheheheheh.
No chance in hell that Sandra Huller doesn't get the nomination so no worries about that. I wish she will because I would like to lose with her as my bet against @Saint-loup heheheheheh.
Haha I bet that you wouldn't mind. She is my personal favorite but I woulnd't mind Emma Stone winning either. As a matter of fact, anyone will do as long as its not Lily Gladstone. In other news, BAFTA nominations are out. Oppenheimer is the leader with 13 nominations, followed by Poor Things that got 11 and Killers of the Flower Moon with 9. What's inteersting though is that Lily Gladstone didn't get nominated in Best Actress/Best Supporting Actress category.
Full list https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-68016520
@Rikafip. I very much agree. If we remove the Hollywood agenda, the politics and judge only from their performances, I think Sandra Hüller gave the best performace. However, we do not know if she will be included in the nominated best actress list hehehe. I wish she will because I would like to lose with her as my bet against @Saint-loup heheheheheh.
Also, agreed on Anatomy of a fall vs. the Holdovers for best original screenplay!
Also, agreed on Anatomy of a fall vs. the Holdovers for best original screenplay!
In any case, the Hollywood wokefulness agenda and the storylines on minorities being oppressed have pointed to a win for Lily Gladstone. I am not saying that she is a bad actress but there is something more behind her Oscar win than a win for anyone else.
I just don't understand how can she even be considered in the "Best Actress in a Leading Role" category. Imho she doesn't have enough significance or screen time in the film and if anything, she should be nominated in Best Supporting Actress. If she indeed wins it, it will be the one of the least deserving wins (in that category) in the last 15-20 years.@Rikafip. Yes hehehe. On all the movies I have watched that might be nominated for best picture, the most enjoyable is the Holdovers. This might win for best original screenplay, I reckon.
I have to agree with you, Holdovers was for me the best movie last year as well and the one I might include on my Christmas list as it has a good replay value. Regarding original screenplay, it will be a fight between them and Anatomy of a Fall and since I like both movies very much, I won't mind if either of those win the award. Agreed, Emma Stone really has done a very good job for Poor Things hehehehe. However, it might not be as good as Lily Gladstone who has presently become the favorite from 2.05 to 1.46. It appears @Saint-loup will be winning the bet. Congratulations.
It also appears that there might not be a storyline similar Coda for this Academy awards. Oppenheimer went from 1.77 to 1.26. There will still be another month before official Oscar's voting, however. Final odds will not be seen until March 1.
In any case, similar to my Oppenheimer as best picture speculation last year, my next speculation for best picture next year is Dune 2.
Fortunately or not, bookmakers don't vote and they are often wrong. If I agreed with them I wouldn't have bet on Gladstone because she was not their favorite, so I won't pretend they are reliable now for predicting accurately this Oscar winner. But to be honest I'm curious to know why they've changed their mind? Lily Gladstone won the Best female actor in a drama but Emma Stone also won the Best female actor in her category (musical or comedy film) so what is their criteria? Is it because her speech was just way better than Stone's one? Or is it because they've been aware of the number of votes for each one?It also appears that there might not be a storyline similar Coda for this Academy awards. Oppenheimer went from 1.77 to 1.26. There will still be another month before official Oscar's voting, however. Final odds will not be seen until March 1.
In any case, similar to my Oppenheimer as best picture speculation last year, my next speculation for best picture next year is Dune 2.
But in this game of betting, the sportsbooks have a higher chance of making the correct speculation than being wrong. If they always have gotten it wrong then we can be quite certain that they would be bankrupt hehehe.
In any case, the Hollywood wokefulness agenda and the storylines on minorities being oppressed have pointed to a win for Lily Gladstone. I am not saying that she is a bad actress but there is something more behind her Oscar win than a win for anyone else.
@Rikafip. Yes hehehe. On all the movies I have watched that might be nominated for best picture, the most enjoyable is the Holdovers. This might win for best original screenplay, I reckon.
Also, news update. Final nominations might be announced next week.
Put your pencils down, and pass your ballots to the front. The nominations voting period for the 96th Academy Awards is now closed. The latest influences on the race came from the Critics Choice Awards and the Golden Globes, where Christopher Nolan’s “Oppenheimer” topped both groups. However, Greta Gerwig’s “Barbie” and Yorgos Lanthimos’ “Poor Things” has shown considerable strength, and films such as Alexander Payne’s “The Holdovers” and Justine Triet’s “Anatomy of a Fall” are picking up momentum.
Source https://variety.com/2024/film/columns/oscar-voting-closes-surprises-barbie-saltburn-1235873942/
@bbc.reporter I just finished watching Killers of the flower moon and I have to say that I don't understand all the hype around it. It was way too long, it didn't make me care about any character in the movie and worst of all, I don't understand how in hell is Lily Gladstone favorite for Best Actress Oscar. Thinking of it, I don't even understand why should she be nominated in that category as it makes more sense that she gest nominated in Best Supporting Actress category.
Of those that will probably end up getting nominated in Best Picture category I still have to watch Maestro but honestly topic of the movie doesn't really interest me so I guess it will have to wait for some time.
Of those that will probably end up getting nominated in Best Picture category I still have to watch Maestro but honestly topic of the movie doesn't really interest me so I guess it will have to wait for some time.
But to be honest I'm curious to know why they've changed their mind? Lily Gladstone won the Best female actor in a drama but Emma Stone also won the Best female actor in her category (musical or comedy film) so what is their criteria? Is it because her speech was just way better than Stone's one?
I don't think that speeches can change much (probably not anything) but its more about how much money studio is ready to spend of the Oscar campaigns. In its essecnce, they are not much different than political campaigns where studios hire experts who then make a plan (make parties, extra screenings, classic advertisement etc) and they spend tens of millions of dollars on it. Every once in a while we probably get a legit winners in one of the major categories but most of the time its all about lobbying, hence such weird choices more often than not.
I'm so ticked off at myself for not placing bets for the Golden Globes, so I'll definitely try and get on top of it for the Oscars. I knew that The Bear would take home some trophies, along with of course Succession as well as some of the other winners. I've watch a lot more television and movies this year so I'm feeling confident I could place some solid bets.
Agreed, Emma Stone really has done a very good job for Poor Things hehehehe. However, it might not be as good as Lily Gladstone who has presently become the favorite from 2.05 to 1.46. It appears @Saint-loup will be winning the bet. Congratulations.
It also appears that there might not be a storyline similar Coda for this Academy awards. Oppenheimer went from 1.77 to 1.26. There will still be another month before official Oscar's voting, however. Final odds will not be seen until March 1.
In any case, similar to my Oppenheimer as best picture speculation last year, my next speculation for best picture next year is Dune 2.
Fortunately or not, bookmakers don't vote and they are often wrong. If I agreed with them I wouldn't have bet on Gladstone because she was not their favorite, so I won't pretend they are reliable now for predicting accurately this Oscar winner. But to be honest I'm curious to know why they've changed their mind? Lily Gladstone won the Best female actor in a drama but Emma Stone also won the Best female actor in her category (musical or comedy film) so what is their criteria? Is it because her speech was just way better than Stone's one? Or is it because they've been aware of the number of votes for each one? It also appears that there might not be a storyline similar Coda for this Academy awards. Oppenheimer went from 1.77 to 1.26. There will still be another month before official Oscar's voting, however. Final odds will not be seen until March 1.
In any case, similar to my Oppenheimer as best picture speculation last year, my next speculation for best picture next year is Dune 2.
Agreed, Emma Stone really has done a very good job for Poor Things hehehehe. However, it might not be as good as Lily Gladstone who has presently become the favorite from 2.05 to 1.46. It appears @Saint-loup will be winning the bet. Congratulations.
Its too early to give it up imho as 1.46 still doesn't make a her a huge favorite. If bookies were so sure odds would be under 1.2. It also appears that there might not be a storyline similar Coda for this Academy awards. Oppenheimer went from 1.77 to 1.26. There will still be another month before official Oscar's voting, however. Final odds will not be seen until March 1.
For that I agree, looks like Oppenheimer has it in the bag as 1.26 is very low considering the fact that nominations are not out yet.In any case, similar to my Oppenheimer as best picture speculation last year, my next speculation for best picture next year is Dune 2.
Hope that you are right as that would make it a first scifi movie ever that won Best Picture award. Here it comes on March 1st and I can't wait to watch it but before that I will watch the first part again to get myself in the proper mood. @ bbc.reporter I just came home from watching Poor Things and I definitely understand why you decided to put some money on Emma Stone as she did an awesome job there. I haven't seen Killers Of The Flower Moon yet (plan is this weekened) but I will be very surprised if Lily Gladstone did a better job. By the way, I just read that she uses she/they pronouns (Lily Gladstone, not Emma Stone) which I am sure is another reason for her being favorite for now.
With that being said, I expected a little bit more from the movie. It was good and I generally liked it, but imho its a little bit overrated when I look at IMdB rating. For me its lets say ~7.5.
With that being said, I expected a little bit more from the movie. It was good and I generally liked it, but imho its a little bit overrated when I look at IMdB rating. For me its lets say ~7.5.
Agreed, Emma Stone really has done a very good job for Poor Things hehehehe. However, it might not be as good as Lily Gladstone who has presently become the favorite from 2.05 to 1.46. It appears @Saint-loup will be winning the bet. Congratulations.
It also appears that there might not be a storyline similar Coda for this Academy awards. Oppenheimer went from 1.77 to 1.26. There will still be another month before official Oscar's voting, however. Final odds will not be seen until March 1.
In any case, similar to my Oppenheimer as best picture speculation last year, my next speculation for best picture next year is Dune 2.
I don't see anyone mentiong Golden Globes winners so gonna share the winners in the most important categories as they can (and usually do) affect the Oscar odds. What;s promising is that Barbie won only 1 reward and for (imho) not so important category, "Cinematic and box office achievement".
Best Film (Drama)- Oppenheimer
Best male actor in a film (Drama)- Cilian Murphy
Best female actor in a film (Drama)- Lily Gladstone
Best film – musical or comedy - Poor Things
Best male actor in a film – musical or comedy- Paul Giamatti
Best female actor in a film – musical or comedy - Emma Stone
Best non-English language film - Anatomy of a Fall
Best screenplay for a film - Justine Triet and Arthur Harari for Anatomy of a Fall
Best supporting male actor in a film - Robert Downey Jr
Best supporting female actor in a film - Da’Vine Joy Randolph
Here is the full list https://www.theguardian.com/film/2024/jan/07/golden-globes-2024-the-full-list-of-winners
Best Film (Drama)- Oppenheimer
Best male actor in a film (Drama)- Cilian Murphy
Best female actor in a film (Drama)- Lily Gladstone
Best film – musical or comedy - Poor Things
Best male actor in a film – musical or comedy- Paul Giamatti
Best female actor in a film – musical or comedy - Emma Stone
Best non-English language film - Anatomy of a Fall
Best screenplay for a film - Justine Triet and Arthur Harari for Anatomy of a Fall
Best supporting male actor in a film - Robert Downey Jr
Best supporting female actor in a film - Da’Vine Joy Randolph
Here is the full list https://www.theguardian.com/film/2024/jan/07/golden-globes-2024-the-full-list-of-winners
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