Topic: 2.1T 900W, Innosilicon Blake256 D9 DecredMaster/ 3.83T 1380W, S11 SiaMaster - page 13. (Read 8138 times)

I am not buying any ASIC from China. Thank you

Ya think!!!!

The Decred miner never looked like a risk due to profitability being stable even with the Halong miners already operating - the only drawback was never expected Inno to play fun and games.....

I have other miners which I'm planning to put into a facility that can make money over time, and work options are starting to come in.  I'm not destitute as my wife works and I do what I need to for the side IT jobs.   If ever you need remote support, I can help!

Best regards
Paul.

This seems obvious I think, but maybe you shouldn't be spending your last remaining savings on a risky investment, especially when you don't have money coming in.

Thanks, appreciate the info.  I too looked at the new one from Bitmain and decided no real profit in it.  I do however have an X3 has not been shipped yet and the B3 which I am waiting on.

My biggest problem is tied up in the Inno, as I took the last chunk of savings to use on that as an investment.  I need to make those funds back and redeposit into savings as I have not worked since July last year when we got hit by a category 5 hurricane......

I need to return a profit asap, lol!

Best regards
Paul.

I ended up going through minersdeals.com. You can see what their current price is for "in stock" D9's and I chose to use paypal via CC so I paid a 2.9% fee on top of their price. In this case, it was well worth it to me. There were some inventory problems to begin with and I was a little worried in the middle of the process, but they had great communication with me through the entire time and they came through for me. I had originally wanted to order two D9's, but decided it was too much risk so I only ordered one.
In terms of short term profits, the D9 was kind of an interesting situation. Obviously, Halong released theirs first, but at over $10K. If you take into account that they only released theirs 30 days before Inno did, but Inno shaved off $3K you have a similar net effect of profit with a little less risk based on future orders. I also feel that because the price was so high on these, that reduced the number of people willing to take the risk on an algorithm that isn't in the top 10 for currencies. Between the B29 from Halong and the D9 from Inno, these were the first ASICs for the coin, as opposed to something like Litecoin that's had several generations of ASICs alright. Because of this, the leap in hashing power vs the current difficulty was significant. I don't see this happening very often for established generation ASICS (e.g., Litecoin). I was actually surprised that Bitmain's Z9 isn't more of a leap in hashing power vs the current difficulty. That's why I didn't get that one. I feel that there's a strong possibility that someone is going to release the next/improved Z9 version. Similar to how Bitmain's A3 for Sia came out just before Halong announced the B52.

Thanks for your suggestions nastyrunner, obviously I can't afford to give up and have to keep chasing.  I just don't want to get into the position that when I do finally get something in my grubby little paws that it is impossible to make back my purchase price - and I feel the longer the delay, the less likely the ROI.

If you don't mind me asking, which alternate supplier did you choose in the case of the D9 or S11 (or whichever miners concerned) and what kind of a markup did you pay above the initial cost price?

Any suggestions for very little cost that can make the best profit in the short term??

Also, sweeperAA, same question as regards supplier - and any ideas for short-term profit...

Best regards
Paul.

Threatening isn't going to work because you have no leverage in this battle. They have your money and your device. No legal recourse since they're in China. If you do have leverage, I'd be very interested in knowing what it is in case I wind up in the same hardship. I almost went down the road of ordering through Inno directly, but I ended up going with a US-based vendor and paid via Paypal where I had options if something like this happened. I paid a little bit of a surcharge, but I've had my d9 since Wednesday. Hearing these stories I will never order directly through Inno. They don't seem to have any business integrity whatsoever. Probably the only reason the devices work is because they were designed and built by Halong.

Honestly, you have two options:
1) You keep chasing them till you get your miner and just forget about the entire dilemma over a cold beer.
2) You could send them threatening emails of suing them or asking for refunds etc, but honestly that won't work.

From my experience with Innosilicon, I have always purchased their device by paying $200-$400 more from other vendors as they have it in stock, and ship it within 2 days of receiving funds. My miner was shipped the next day after I transferred RMB to my vendor, and within 4 days, it reached my location through DHL (i.e. Tomorrow).

I feel their main language is not English, so there is a bit of an issue when communicating, but I have had absolutely no issues with the after-sales team for my other A4+ miners. Also, they must be quite over loaded with the number of orders coming through and just to let you know, I have spoken to not less than 20 vendors, and all of them are able to supply up-to 30 Miners each with immediate shipment. So, there are many orders, and they must be swamped by it.

Innosilicon woes.....

Well I paid last month on the 24th, the bank confirmed funds in account on the 27th. 

Then Innosilicon shut down for 4 days on the 29th.

I've subsequently been chasing them day and night via email, skype and now facebook posts to try to get some movement.

They claimed it was still under payment verification up until last Wednesday when I got a payment verification.

Last thing on Friday they gave me a pre-prepared Fedex AWB number that still states they have not received package (only after I sent one from a competitor showing shipping to my location - as they used some lame excuse that they could not ship to my location -- this even after they told me they had already shipped it and were going to provide tracking a day or two before).

My AWB still shows no receipt of device, and with an expected delivery of Tuesday.

Personally, I'm disgusted with the lack of contact, service and poor logistics.

Imagine you go into a dealership and pay $7000+ for a brand new car, yet the dealer decides to keep hold of it for 2 weeks, driving it around, putting mileage on the clock and you get annoyed

That's exactly how I feel right now

I've paid in full for a brand new miner - and been chasing for almost two weeks - all the time being given the runaround about it being shipped

For all I know, my brand new miner is plugged in, earning someone more than $100 per day while I sit here wondering if and when I eventually do get it, it'll be dusty, scratched, with plenty of mileage already on it

And maybe not even manage to create the ROI as the value of Decred continues to decrease

So in my last response from them on Skype, they say they will check for me on Monday.

Here's what I want......

I want my miner, in my hand before Tuesday, I want an immediate refund of $1000 due the lies and deceitful business behavior as on Monday they should be shipping the NEXT batch of miners. 

What do people suggest I do next?

So I finally got my D9 yesterday and after getting it I compared it to my Halong B29. These 2 machines are identical except for the case that the hashboards are sitting in. I was confused when hooking it up for the first time because it shows up as Dragonmint on the network  . Then when I logged into it the firmware was the exact same as the B29 except it is a slightly upgraded firmware then what Halong's miners came with. Does anyone know where to get the updated firmware because the firmware update check is obviously not working on the miners yet? Another thing that I noticed is that the D9 runs much cooler then the B29. Currently the D9 runs at about 60C and hashes at 2.36TH/s and the B29 runs at 79C and hashes at 2.39TH/s. I was able to connect both miners to Luxor's pool and they are hashing away without any issues.

EDIT:
I got the latest firmware update from Inno and applied it to my B29 and now my temps dropped to 60C and it runs the exact same as the D9 

I think the problems with Nicehash were only with the D9.  I pointed one of my S11s at Nicehash for 1.5 hour and it was working.  However, the pool-side reported hashrate seemed lower.  In my mind, that sorta offset the convenience of being paid in bitcoin.

I have my S11s pointed at Luxor.  The list of pools for Siacoin is short, so you don't have a lot to pick from in reality

https://siastats.info/mining_pools

The advantage of SiaMining is that it's a PPS system, which means you accumulate siacoin for every minute they're mining, even when the pool doesn't hit a block.  The downside is the 3% fee.
Luxor is a PPLNS system, which means you only get paid when the pool hits a block.  So, you could go many hours with no payout at all, then get a large chunk payout when the pool hits a block.  Over time it should all even out statistically, and Luxor currently is 0% fee according to their website.
The other note about Luxor PPLNS is that there is a 24-hour ramp-up to prevent pool hopping, so your payouts in that first day will be less than usual as you build up your participation in the sharechain.

Hello,

According to you, it would be the best (and easiest to use) pool for my S11 and my D9, taking into account that I am a newbie in mining. I had prepared to use Nicehash, but it does not seem to work with the S11 and D9. I will receive my minor on May 8th and 9th.

Thank you for your help

Finally some movement....

Saturday, May 05, 2018   Location   Time   Pieces
3   Departed Facility in HONG KONG - HONG KONG   HONG KONG - HONG KONG   15:14   
2 Pieces

2   Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG   HONG KONG - HONG KONG   15:06   
2 Pieces

1   Shipment picked up   HONG KONG - HONG KONG   14:41   
2 Pieces

Estimated Delivery:
Tuesday, May 08, 2018
By End of Day


Purchase date of April 21 2018

I won't be walking down this path again I can say that.

Shopping experience: 1 star (out of 10) Innosilicon

Bitmain 8 star (out of 10) --- as compared to what.... and YES  I was hoping for an alternative.

Hopefully, Inno will add a conversion interface soon that more closely mirrors the market value for BTC/LTC rates. That's quite a bit of annoyed people. Until then, those that don't want to pay a premium buying with BTC/LTC might consider converting your coins to USD and do a bank wire purchase. Inno seems to value USD more. Kinda ironic but it is what it is until it isn't.

Shipping is a different story. I had a smooth transaction, sucks so many have concerns. I would think your orders would go out before batch 2 begins shipping.

That's silly! I would have told them it is a B29. The only thing that I've noticed thats different is the sticker. I'd try sending another message stating you have problems with your B29 miner. Why are you using Nicehash btw? Why not mine at a pool?

Regarding configuring the decred miner to nicehash's stratum server, I contacted them before I received mine and they said,

*****************
Hello!

I can tell you that we do not support Innosilicon miners. We have not had any known experiences with Halog B29 yet.

Kind regards,
NiceHash Team
*****************

I've also attempted to configure my D9 to the nicehash stratum. It resolved as "alive" but it was rejecting every share. Unfortunately, nicehash doesn't seem to know that the D9 (inno) and the B29 (halong) are the same miners.

I would hope that the more people complain about this, the more they'll do to support the D9 and B29 on the decred stratum.

The firmware update available from Innosilicon's website is identical to the one available from Halong.  The update does make the interface better.  I did not do any performance comparison to see if it hashes faster or anything like that between the stock firmware and this update.  One bug I've found so far is that the "autotune" for performance never ends.  Doesn't seem to affect things tho.

PS C:\firmware> get-filehash *.swu

Algorithm       Hash                                                                   Path                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
---------       ----                                                                   ----                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
SHA256          A8A2250C1EBF040C40772390C3F698416B03F461E2C397DDD70090110EEA9FFC       C:\firmware\b52_20180428_063624.swu                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
SHA256          A8A2250C1EBF040C40772390C3F698416B03F461E2C397DDD70090110EEA9FFC       C:\firmware\S11_20180428_063624.swu                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       

These are two different brands, but the designs of this are exactly the same.

Same here! Board #1 is not working.  Have you figured out the problem?

Interesting new bit of information here....

The S11 units appear to have a new firmware available dated April 28 2018

 S11_20180428_063624.swu 080FE99C9A474D4C07C8888EFDD8FC6D

URL source: http://www.innosilicon.com/html/downA4/

I wonder if they are needing to flash units after they realized they originally shipped out with Halong SW installed rather than their own UX?


Just a thought....