According to the article, in 5 days will be the next hearing, and I hope we will have news of what happens, although trials can drag on for a long time and maybe nothing relevant will happen.
I also believe like most who have commented that the lottery winner has everything to win the trial before the Lagos lottery company, although in matters of law you can never take anything for granted. In any case, if the company had a problem with its system, the user does not have to pay for it.
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There are 85 percentage chances of that guy winning the case if he has a good and competent legal practitioner and if the judge will be fair enough. I really don't see reasons why most casinos act this why and try to rub gamblers of their winnings and it is really bad.
Data been wiped off their system isn't the players fault but rather their fault and it's their problem to deal with as long as his winning slip is still with him.
But why will they offer to pay him such amount of money at different instances when if they know and certain he never win.
I think he has more chances of winning the case
Data been wiped off their system isn't the players fault but rather their fault and it's their problem to deal with as long as his winning slip is still with him.
But why will they offer to pay him such amount of money at different instances when if they know and certain he never win.
I think he has more chances of winning the case
The fact that the lottery tried to bribe the winner, should be an obvious attempt that there's a clear anomaly here. However, the article is not complete if that said bribe incident is proven to be true. Of course, the lottery will claim it's not true I doubt too that they will consider that as that will ruin their famous reputation. But again, we don't know the truth.
We really don't know what's the real score between the two parties as we only rely on the details mentioned in the article. Almost a month since this news was posted, requesting for OP if he can found some additional progressing development about this story.
If we speculate things with only the details in the article, yes, the winner of the lottery should win the case.
First, it's the lottery's fault that made the mistake.
Second, they tried to bribe the winner
If these 2 things are proven true by the court, then the winner is supposedly enjoying his winnings now.
Strange case, he needs a specialist lawyer who might argue the fine detail on this one but extreme wins can upset the expected cash flow in a game which is a problem for any operation. Not sure why it would be his fault at all or allowable by the rules and conditions of the game but also its hard to argue as just one voice. It could be more complicated then it appears, I would not have the guts and would have given into the offers but also I would not play there or maybe anywhere for that game again tbh.
This is a big case and the person should not take the case easily with such casinos. Many casinos are found of not paying gamblers and this is very bad. I know this is not there first time of depriving winners of their funds and I am happy if the person which is the gambler finally win the case. This is one of the reasons why we need to look for a reputable casinos that has good history for a very long time of paying gamblers their winnings. It this continues it will become an habit for this kind of casino to always keep gamblers winnings if they are not able to take it legally.
Strange case, he needs a specialist lawyer who might argue the fine detail on this one but extreme wins can upset the expected cash flow in a game which is a problem for any operation. Not sure why it would be his fault at all or allowable by the rules and conditions of the game but also its hard to argue as just one voice. It could be more complicated then it appears, I would not have the guts and would have given into the offers but also I would not play there or maybe anywhere for that game again tbh.
There are 85 percentage chances of that guy winning the case if he has a good and competent legal practitioner and if the judge will be fair enough. I really don't see reasons why most casinos act this why and try to rub gamblers of their winnings and it is really bad.
Data been wiped off their system isn't the players fault but rather their fault and it's their problem to deal with as long as his winning slip is still with him.
But why will they offer to pay him such amount of money at different instances when if they know and certain he never win.
I think he has more chances of winning the case
Data been wiped off their system isn't the players fault but rather their fault and it's their problem to deal with as long as his winning slip is still with him.
But why will they offer to pay him such amount of money at different instances when if they know and certain he never win.
I think he has more chances of winning the case
The fact that the lottery tried to bribe the winner, should be an obvious attempt that there's a clear anomaly here. However, the article is not complete if that said bribe incident is proven to be true. Of course, the lottery will claim it's not true I doubt too that they will consider that as that will ruin their famous reputation. But again, we don't know the truth.
We really don't know what's the real score between the two parties as we only rely on the details mentioned in the article. Almost a month since this news was posted, requesting for OP if he can found some additional progressing development about this story.
I just can't understand how gambling company prove the dishonesty of the winner if they previously said that their database had been wiped out
that means there is no evidence that the gambling company can show in court later if their database is deleted, the possibility that the winner of this case may win in court if he can't show strong evidence from the gambling company, this is an opportunity where the winner can show solid evidence against that gambling companyhow often a database is wiped clean nowadays?
seems like something quite rare
would probably count against the company in court, not in favour.
but you are right, the winner should have at least some evidence that they really won.
This is why we need to be very careful on the kind of platform we make bets because some casinos do have a scamming attempt to refuse payment for winners especially when the fund is big.
you would really be get paid in case you do hit up big wins.I dont know on why there are really people who do really touch up non popular gambling sites or betting sites if we do have currently which are known
and popular.If the said amount pending is big then you could really be able to file some legal actions but if evidences arent strong enough then it would really be sadly be ignored.
This is why some people do end up on suicide because of the huge money involved and able to go into other extreme means due to desperation.
There are 85 percentage chances of that guy winning the case if he has a good and competent legal practitioner and if the judge will be fair enough. I really don't see reasons why most casinos act this why and try to rub gamblers of their winnings and it is really bad.
Data been wiped off their system isn't the players fault but rather their fault and it's their problem to deal with as long as his winning slip is still with him.
But why will they offer to pay him such amount of money at different instances when if they know and certain he never win.
I think he has more chances of winning the case
Data been wiped off their system isn't the players fault but rather their fault and it's their problem to deal with as long as his winning slip is still with him.
But why will they offer to pay him such amount of money at different instances when if they know and certain he never win.
I think he has more chances of winning the case
The fact that the lottery tried to bribe the winner, should be an obvious attempt that there's a clear anomaly here. However, the article is not complete if that said bribe incident is proven to be true. Of course, the lottery will claim it's not true I doubt too that they will consider that as that will ruin their famous reputation. But again, we don't know the truth.
We really don't know what's the real score between the two parties as we only rely on the details mentioned in the article. Almost a month since this news was posted, requesting for OP if he can found some additional progressing development about this story.
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As far as my mind can comprehend this thread, OP is talking about an actual lottery and not really from an online website which is why it's painful knowing that you've won, but won't really get to enjoy your winning prize because of some sort of issue.
It's not really OP's fault that the company had glitch on their database resulting to wipe out of their crucial information. Because they should have a back up in the first place and make their security tight so that inconvenience like this won't happen. This could be some form of assurance for them too not only for the players. Really do hoping we'll get an update from the process of this case.
As far as my mind can comprehend this thread, OP is talking about an actual lottery and not really from an online website which is why it's painful knowing that you've won, but won't really get to enjoy your winning prize because of some sort of issue.
It's not really OP's fault that the company had glitch on their database resulting to wipe out of their crucial information. Because they should have a back up in the first place and make their security tight so that inconvenience like this won't happen. This could be some form of assurance for them too not only for the players. Really do hoping we'll get an update from the process of this case.
supposing the company story about having a glitch on the database is true, how come this would be a problem? they wouldn't be able to verify if the winner is legit?
Am I the only one who think "glitch in the database" really looks like these stories of people "losing their private keys on boating accidents"?
I think the complainant will win the case and has provided enough evidence because he has the guts to reject their offer and push through with the case. If he has all the evidence, then it's a good move to fight for his right and this will also serve the casino a lesson. If I were them, if there were enough funds to pay the gambler, I would pay him so the case scenario won't get worse which can affect their reputation.
exactly
reputation could take months to years to build but can be destroyed in a couple days
the case we're seeing with SBF/FTX is an example of that
in one week it was ruined (maybe a couple months if you consider it started with Luna's colapse)
if the lottery is reliable and has the money to do it they should pay and stay in businnes
There are 85 percentage chances of that guy winning the case if he has a good and competent legal practitioner and if the judge will be fair enough. I really don't see reasons why most casinos act this why and try to rub gamblers of their winnings and it is really bad.
Data been wiped off their system isn't the players fault but rather their fault and it's their problem to deal with as long as his winning slip is still with him.
But why will they offer to pay him such amount of money at different instances when if they know and certain he never win.
I think he has more chances of winning the case
Data been wiped off their system isn't the players fault but rather their fault and it's their problem to deal with as long as his winning slip is still with him.
But why will they offer to pay him such amount of money at different instances when if they know and certain he never win.
I think he has more chances of winning the case
You may have your reasons subjective to yourself which probably might necessitate your diction but in a global setting as this I'll appreciate you give some regards to your nationality, it wasn't necessary mentioning name for no country is law perfected and corrupt free.
Nigeria is not the only country with corrupt judiciary or leaders. We are a great nation with great people.
Nigeria is not the only country with corrupt judiciary or leaders. We are a great nation with great people.
Before you become emotional with my comments, it became an open discussion the moment I see the quote below:
For those requesting the link, here it is: https://punchng.com/lagos-lottery-company-arraigned-for-refusing-n72m-win/
It was open for further reading for everyone, now tell me where it has become a crime to mention the country and besides, where are the lies in my statement? This wouldn't happen in a developed country considering the fact that is gambling within its jurisdiction. If you followed up on the investigations, you would agree with me that they are only trying to reap the player and they are trying to bribe him because they will lose so much amount of money.
If you really gamble, I hope you don't become a victim because you will do worse if you have ever lost a game to a gambling vendor, keep the nationality brouhaha and let's say some facts.
A lot is happening there that is an abomination elsewhere, especially in the developed countries. Aside from all that, can the lottery company try that rubbish of not paying the guy in Europe or the US? Even the attempt to bribe him for his winning would have put them in real trouble. Let alone that government officials were involved in the bribery. Let's be realistic.
I just can't understand how gambling company prove the dishonesty of the winner if they previously said that their database had been wiped out
that means there is no evidence that the gambling company can show in court later if their database is deleted, the possibility that the winner of this case may win in court if he can't show strong evidence from the gambling company, this is an opportunity where the winner can show solid evidence against that gambling companyhow often a database is wiped clean nowadays?
seems like something quite rare
would probably count against the company in court, not in favour.
but you are right, the winner should have at least some evidence that they really won.
This is why we need to be very careful on the kind of platform we make bets because some casinos do have a scamming attempt to refuse payment for winners especially when the fund is big.
You may have your reasons subjective to yourself which probably might necessitate your diction but in a global setting as this I'll appreciate you give some regards to your nationality, it wasn't necessary mentioning name for no country is law perfected and corrupt free.
Nigeria is not the only country with corrupt judiciary or leaders. We are a great nation with great people.
Nigeria is not the only country with corrupt judiciary or leaders. We are a great nation with great people.
Before you become emotional with my comments, it became an open discussion the moment I see the quote below:
For those requesting the link, here it is: https://punchng.com/lagos-lottery-company-arraigned-for-refusing-n72m-win/
It was open for further reading for everyone, now tell me where it has become a crime to mention the country and besides, where are the lies in my statement? This wouldn't happen in a developed country considering the fact that is gambling within its jurisdiction. If you followed up on the investigations, you would agree with me that they are only trying to reap the player and they are trying to bribe him because they will lose so much amount of money.
If you really gamble, I hope you don't become a victim because you will do worse if you have ever lost a game to a gambling vendor, keep the nationality brouhaha and let's say some facts.
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As far as my mind can comprehend this thread, OP is talking about an actual lottery and not really from an online website which is why it's painful knowing that you've won, but won't really get to enjoy your winning prize because of some sort of issue.
It's not really OP's fault that the company had glitch on their database resulting to wipe out of their crucial information. Because they should have a back up in the first place and make their security tight so that inconvenience like this won't happen. This could be some form of assurance for them too not only for the players. Really do hoping we'll get an update from the process of this case.
As far as my mind can comprehend this thread, OP is talking about an actual lottery and not really from an online website which is why it's painful knowing that you've won, but won't really get to enjoy your winning prize because of some sort of issue.
It's not really OP's fault that the company had glitch on their database resulting to wipe out of their crucial information. Because they should have a back up in the first place and make their security tight so that inconvenience like this won't happen. This could be some form of assurance for them too not only for the players. Really do hoping we'll get an update from the process of this case.
supposing the company story about having a glitch on the database is true, how come this would be a problem? they wouldn't be able to verify if the winner is legit?
Am I the only one who think "glitch in the database" really looks like these stories of people "losing their private keys on boating accidents"?
I think the complainant will win the case and has provided enough evidence because he has the guts to reject their offer and push through with the case. If he has all the evidence, then it's a good move to fight for his right and this will also serve the casino a lesson. If I were them, if there were enough funds to pay the gambler, I would pay him so the case scenario won't get worse which can affect their reputation.
Well hopefully the complainant will win the case, but we know he's had several offers from the company and from the national gambling board to stop his reporting.
It's an indication that maybe he's not just dealing with a small casino but dealing with something or a bigger group and has money and power.
I think there might be some manipulation done to stop or possibly beat the complainant on her lawsuit.
We all know that money and power can regulate the laws that are running according to their will.
Hope justice goes well there and hopefully indeed he is with the right team to win this case and will fully accept his dues.
The company is trying their power to push believing the Person/victim will not run far against them, that is why they are settling twice with small amount , but now that they find it serious , they will use that said amount to fight and win the battle.
in this will be needing a trustworthy court and government because this is a David and Goliath fight that the advantage will always towards the Big or the giant.
in this will be needing a trustworthy court and government because this is a David and Goliath fight that the advantage will always towards the Big or the giant.
I wish to also receive an update about this case on the said date fornthe next trial, if the lawyer is sound and experienced enough it's already a winning case, I've seen people winning case against a government notbto talk of gambling site or casino, though it all requires financial aid but nevertheless the case can also warrant the attraction of additional fine on the casino for the gambler as compensation.
On that ground, they pleaded "Not guilty" to the charges preferred against them. The judge had adjourned the case to a date I can't remember now, but will further update you on the stance as it unfolds.
Well. lotteries do not make a lot of money. In my experience, lotteries make you lose a lot of money as it's too hard to win in the lottery.
I disagree that lottery companies do not have money, if they don't why are they doing it? This is a business for them and it's a lucrative one as well, which is making them increasingly common these days.As far as I know, the lottery gambling business makes a lot of money for these business people. so I'm not sure, if the lottery company is not financially sound. as for this case, I think we should try to be fair in this judgment from both sides.
in @obari's thread, the company refused because the man was allegedly involved in irregularities. here is the link
https://leadership.ng/lagos-lottery-coy-says-claimant-of-n72-2m-win-engaged-in-irregularities/
I think this case must be determined from the court results later, how both of them prove it with the evidence they have.
if this man is proven not to have cheated, the lottery company must be willing to pay the money he deserves. however, unfortunately we do not have further information regarding this lottery case.
Am I the only one also thinking that if I ever win, they will not give my winnings? I know it's a kind of trust issue, but still, that is mostly coming to my mind when going to the lottery and even to an online gambling website, but still, I continue to bet, lol. From every angle, we see that person would win the case even though the database has been wiped out because the result of it was public no matter what they say. Still, the problem is that if they give some money(the lottery) to the judge(possibly the other side will win) or they will win, what I am scared of is that due to technical difficulties, the judge will declare that he won the case, but the issue is that the lottery will only give half of the amount.
Except it occurs in a nation where the law is not effectively implemented! Looking at this case, it occurred in Nigeria, and because the player did not have enough money to sue the gambling house, he may lose the case since the judge may be easily influenced by money by gambling owners, but if it is a country where nonsense is not tolerated, trust me, they will pay that money, as well as other damages and for lying that the games were not recorded on their database. As far as I'm concerned, this case will likely finish with the player being compensated and accepting the loss, sometimes we are deceived because of our limited strength.
Well let's assume there are countries whose human rights were not considered with utmost priority to be fought for especially in cases like this when one individual is challenged by the other through oppression and this one one of the typical reasons you got the gamblers in retaliation to what they have experienced in the past when the government regulations guiding this isn't effective especially with gambling.
Am I the only one also thinking that if I ever win, they will not give my winnings? I know it's a kind of trust issue, but still, that is mostly coming to my mind when going to the lottery and even to an online gambling website, but still, I continue to bet, lol. From every angle, we see that person would win the case even though the database has been wiped out because the result of it was public no matter what they say. Still, the problem is that if they give some money(the lottery) to the judge(possibly the other side will win) or they will win, what I am scared of is that due to technical difficulties, the judge will declare that he won the case, but the issue is that the lottery will only give half of the amount.
Except it occurs in a nation where the law is not effectively implemented! Looking at this case, it occurred in Nigeria, and because the player did not have enough money to sue the gambling house, he may lose the case since the judge may be easily influenced by money by gambling owners, but if it is a country where nonsense is not tolerated, trust me, they will pay that money, as well as other damages and for lying that the games were not recorded on their database. As far as I'm concerned, this case will likely finish with the player being compensated and accepting the loss, sometimes we are deceived because of our limited strength.
Well let's assume there are countries whose human rights were not considered with utmost priority to be fought for especially in cases like this when one individual is challenged by the other through oppression and this one one of the typical reasons you got the gamblers in retaliation to what they have experienced in the past when the government regulations guiding this isn't effective especially with gambling.
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As far as my mind can comprehend this thread, OP is talking about an actual lottery and not really from an online website which is why it's painful knowing that you've won, but won't really get to enjoy your winning prize because of some sort of issue.
It's not really OP's fault that the company had glitch on their database resulting to wipe out of their crucial information. Because they should have a back up in the first place and make their security tight so that inconvenience like this won't happen. This could be some form of assurance for them too not only for the players. Really do hoping we'll get an update from the process of this case.
As far as my mind can comprehend this thread, OP is talking about an actual lottery and not really from an online website which is why it's painful knowing that you've won, but won't really get to enjoy your winning prize because of some sort of issue.
It's not really OP's fault that the company had glitch on their database resulting to wipe out of their crucial information. Because they should have a back up in the first place and make their security tight so that inconvenience like this won't happen. This could be some form of assurance for them too not only for the players. Really do hoping we'll get an update from the process of this case.
supposing the company story about having a glitch on the database is true, how come this would be a problem? they wouldn't be able to verify if the winner is legit?
Am I the only one who think "glitch in the database" really looks like these stories of people "losing their private keys on boating accidents"?
I think the complainant will win the case and has provided enough evidence because he has the guts to reject their offer and push through with the case. If he has all the evidence, then it's a good move to fight for his right and this will also serve the casino a lesson. If I were them, if there were enough funds to pay the gambler, I would pay him so the case scenario won't get worse which can affect their reputation.
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As far as my mind can comprehend this thread, OP is talking about an actual lottery and not really from an online website which is why it's painful knowing that you've won, but won't really get to enjoy your winning prize because of some sort of issue.
It's not really OP's fault that the company had glitch on their database resulting to wipe out of their crucial information. Because they should have a back up in the first place and make their security tight so that inconvenience like this won't happen. This could be some form of assurance for them too not only for the players. Really do hoping we'll get an update from the process of this case.
As far as my mind can comprehend this thread, OP is talking about an actual lottery and not really from an online website which is why it's painful knowing that you've won, but won't really get to enjoy your winning prize because of some sort of issue.
It's not really OP's fault that the company had glitch on their database resulting to wipe out of their crucial information. Because they should have a back up in the first place and make their security tight so that inconvenience like this won't happen. This could be some form of assurance for them too not only for the players. Really do hoping we'll get an update from the process of this case.
supposing the company story about having a glitch on the database is true, how come this would be a problem? they wouldn't be able to verify if the winner is legit?
Am I the only one who think "glitch in the database" really looks like these stories of people "losing their private keys on boating accidents"?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
There a some gambling sites that are new in the business and don't have the financial wherewithall to pay a heavy and huge winning due to their infancy in the business only hoping that accumulation could be gotten from gamblers losses to meet up in building their financial strength but it becomes u fortunate for them when a huge win is what they experience as against what their plans were. This could be one reason why certain gambling sites shy away from paying him get amounts but rather elope or form one excuses.What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
Another could be that it was fraud intended from the start of it, and they probably might go at loss should they payout such huge amount so they resort to extinction of such site.
My advise is that gamblers should try get knowledge of the history of certain gambling site they engaged with and their reputation in the past years, etc.
It will really keep you away from such ugly experience. For we app know how painful losing money to gambling , and then the joy of winning after many loss and someone is trying to deny you of it.
It's really painful.
yes, in these cases better to stay with reliable websites, or only test new waters knowing that you may not have a return from your gambles
but the thing is that on OP's case seems like this was an existing lottery irl, not virtual, right?
this makes a totally different situation.
As far as my mind can comprehend this thread, OP is talking about an actual lottery and not really from an online website which is why it's painful knowing that you've won, but won't really get to enjoy your winning prize because of some sort of issue.
It's not really OP's fault that the company had glitch on their database resulting to wipe out of their crucial information. Because they should have a back up in the first place and make their security tight so that inconvenience like this won't happen. This could be some form of assurance for them too not only for the players. Really do hoping we'll get an update from the process of this case.
If it is done illegally, he can close it, but again, getting back the money he won is very difficult. That is mostly the case if the lottery is not government-regulated. When I was a child, I heard from my parents' friends that if someone won $200k, the lottery owner would say they didn't have money because they had gone bankrupt. Then they would close the lottery store, but the problem is that it is not legal, it is illegally put up, and people are aware of it, so my parents' friends didn't get anything, and the lottery store in our neighborhood closed down.
- I get your point on this matter Sir, there are others like gambling platforms that can be their modus operandi, even in the lottery as in OP's story, if the investigation shows that the lottery is illegal, it will appear that the winner has no chance what he won.
Now as you said Sir, I also met someone who was a former secretary of an MLM(multi-level marketing) he told me that the company collected millions of funds and promised a high return, but in the end, nothing came back, now everything invested has complained because they wanted to recover their capital what the owner of the MLM company did was declare bankruptcy and the investors did nothing. It's just sad to think about and I just hope the lottery is legal so OP has a claim.
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