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hero member
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October 26, 2022, 03:44:23 AM
#90
Again, if this will cornered media attention in your attention in your country, then for sure the companies should be meted out with penalties or worst even the owner should be put to jail because of the way they handled the situation and not giving out the pay to the winners.

And for the person, vindication will come and it will be a bitter sweet. Hopefully though, there will be no free loaders as for sure his relatives will suddenly comes out and ask for free money because of his winnings.
hero member
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October 26, 2022, 03:36:54 AM
#89
What actual proof does he have that he won this amount?
It's clear that he has some undeniable proof. This is now a court case, there will be a thorough investigation. They will have to grant access to their internal server, and expects would be engaged in that service to unfold irregularities and what the company might be covering up. Also, the company is liable since they offered him money in police station nad with the gambling board.

This story reminded me the importance of decentralized platforms... I think all centralized platforms should prepare to become decentralized platforms one day because we have no other way to get rid of such problems.
If such like decentralization could be achieved in gambling and exchanges, it would have been best. This would increase trust as no one will be able to steal your money unauthorized.

The gambling casino has obviously at fault in this so they have to pay the gambler on his winning bet because that’s the right thing to do. Otherwise, if the casino continue to act like a scammer and continue to be greedy on their part, well they will lost their business in the long run because other gamblers will definitely most likely not to gamble their money at this certain casino.
Unfortunately, penalties are mostly not meted out on erring companies like this in my country, corruption and politics are everywhere. Nonetheless, the judiciary here is trusted to some reasonable extent, and I am sure the guy would be vindicated.
hero member
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October 26, 2022, 03:10:16 AM
#88
Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.

The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.

This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

For those requesting the link, here it is: https://punchng.com/lagos-lottery-company-arraigned-for-refusing-n72m-win/

He have a higher chance to win this case, most especially if he have secretly documented that moment when the gambling company has offered him money to take back his charges against them. That alone could be used as a huge evidence that the gambling company did something wrong.
Database malfunction is also a hard thing to believe on especially if there were a lottery result already. It is the gambling company who will be held liable for any database malfunction and they're obliged to pay the winner regardless.
hero member
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www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games
October 26, 2022, 01:26:12 AM
#87
Can this guy win the case?
I think the guy can win the case because he look so dedicated to take this case in the court and then the lottery company also offer him money to stop him.

Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
It happened to me before on a faucet/gambling site. The winning is kinda big but when im about to withdraw it, it says pending. I've waited for more than a day. I return to the site and I wonder my account were logged out so I login in again but I can't do it anymore.

I suspect that they ban my account without letting me know the real reason.

Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
I don't know, maybe because they are a scam? Or should I say doing a selective scamming only since their site is still active until now and some users are not complaining.

What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
We can try to report them. If only I have the money I will do what the guy did in the story. I wouldn't mind wasting energy and money but what important for me is that I can take my revenge and the scam site will be close down.
legendary
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October 26, 2022, 12:43:12 AM
#86
Can this guy win the case?
For those requesting the link, here it is: https://punchng.com/lagos-lottery-company-arraigned-for-refusing-n72m-win/
If gambling is legal in the country then there is a good chance for him to win the lawsuit he did, and he should get the money without a doubt.

The gambling company believes not guilty (based on the news you include) but strangely they multiple times offer to pay but with a lower value than the player won, because the steps taken by the gambling company are enough to indicate that they have withheld the player's money, which means refusing to pay with the actual amount.
legendary
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☢️ alegotardo™️
October 25, 2022, 07:40:50 PM
#85
Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

Can this guy win the case?
This depends on how dishonest the site administrators are, what the reputation and size of the company is, and also how well their cash flow is.

Has anyone ever experienced not getting paid for their real wins?
Luckily I've never faced something like this, I think it's because I've never earned such a high amount Cheesy

Why would they take your big money but refuse to pay big wins?
There were probably two reasons: The first is that they didn't believe he would go that far and now they are not willing to give in and assume the mistake for fear of losing more clients/players. Second, because they do not have this money, it is necessary to know how the company's financial position is doing.

What could be done to permanently contain this cheating in the game?
Betting on sites that have a good reputation is a good start, second is betting on sites where you can audit bets in a decentralized way and store the results yourself.
legendary
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Bitcoin Trader
October 25, 2022, 06:08:30 PM
#84
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Can this guy win the case?
I think he can win in my country, because the law in my country can be paid where people who have enough money can win it, but unfortunately gambling is strictly prohibited in my country

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Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
most of what I hear on social media a lot is also paid for from lottery companies and maybe you are finding this story which is also sometimes unpublished

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Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
usually such companies don't have that much money and only play their users' money, but we also don't know the real case here I'm not siding with lottery winners or lottery companies it's just that I hate it if any lottery company or gambling site doesn't pay our money or hold our money

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What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
his steps were correct, namely to go and take legal action if gambling is legal in his country and the law can also be purchased in his country, as an experience always make sure to play in a place that has a good reputation as well as legal so that it is easy to process through legal channels if there is a company that does cheating like this
legendary
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October 25, 2022, 05:43:48 PM
#83
what a bizarre and unusual case
lotteries make a lot of money, why they'd refuse to pay? would totally break confidence for future games.

let's hope justice stays in the side of the guy who won...
One winning payment decline would really be over for their business which people would flock away because they do already have that bad reputation.Its totally over.
They might be able to get out of the situation but the reputation that had been tarnished would really be permanent and this is where they do really end up
on closing if there were people wont be putting up their bets.
Its impossible that they wont really be able to pay up winnings considering on how many and how big amounts that they would accumulate overall.
If they refuse on paying up the winnings then they shouldnt have run a lottery on the first place.
hero member
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fillippone - Winner contest Pizza 2022
October 25, 2022, 04:27:23 PM
#82
Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.

The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.

This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

For those requesting the link, here it is: https://punchng.com/lagos-lottery-company-arraigned-for-refusing-n72m-win/
This is really a big money and I don't think the gambling platform has that kind of fund to pay him because paying him that money can make them go bankrupt which is one of the reason why many casinos leaving the gambling world because of bankruptcy. Well I don't know what will be the outcome because this is a big case that need lots of information and prove for the person to finally win the casino.
I still don't know why the gambling company does not want to pay the winning amount because that money is not too big for them to pay their customer.
legendary
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October 25, 2022, 04:21:20 PM
#81
Interesting that the company offer him money right after the guy attempted to report them. This tells that the gambling company is guilty for not paying the money. If this happens to some gamblers I think they are willing to accept the offer because for them it is better than nothing but our views about it will be bad.

The winner is supposed to get his full winnings not just a fraction of it and what if the same act happens to other gamblers? This company can repeat the same modes. Their company needs to be shutdown before it happens. I salute this guy in the story, that he didn't get tempted for the small amount but he wants a real justice.
legendary
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There's no need to be upset
October 25, 2022, 03:41:48 PM
#80
what a bizarre and unusual case
lotteries make a lot of money, why they'd refuse to pay? would totally break confidence for future games.

let's hope justice stays in the side of the guy who won...
sr. member
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October 25, 2022, 03:24:55 PM
#79
What arrant nonsense, are the gambling company trying to bribe him to keep his mouth shot? He did well in rejecting their stupid offer. Let them explain in court their motive for giving him a flimsy excuse for not paying him when he demanded it. Gambling centres are just fond of this kind of attitude.

As for the court case, he's winning it no doubt about that, if he has a good barrister backing him up. This will serve as a lesson to other gambling companies

legendary
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October 25, 2022, 10:03:31 AM
#78
How bad it is when you finally get what you want and suddenly you won't get it due to those scammers that are not fair to their players. These kinds of people should be punish and make them pay twice or multiple times the money they planning to steal from this man who might be losing the game all this time and finally won the best time of his life.
Sad to say but scammers would always exist as long as there are victims. I'm not blaming the victims but rather wanting to make a wake up call to be more cautious. This thing does not only exist in gambling industry, but to many fields as long as there is money involved. With OP's topic, as long as the victim has proofs, he'd win for sure let's just hope money won't determine the case.
Unfortunately, there are other instances alike with this scenario we are talking about;between gambling site and player. Worse case scenarios are players not even having a dime inspite of winning what he gambled. It would be an advantage for victimes if there are registrations involved with gambling sites because players could sue them but if not, no justice will be given; especially in this industry eherein anonymity is concerned so better be mindful of possibilities.
jr. member
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October 25, 2022, 09:54:58 AM
#77
Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.

The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.

This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

For those requesting the link, here it is: https://punchng.com/lagos-lottery-company-arraigned-for-refusing-n72m-win/

I think he has a shot on winning the case. If has has evidence of the lotto company trying to bribe him would be another plus and he could also used it against them. The case will only take a while and some money from him but I'm positive he's going to win the case.
hero member
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DGbet.fun - Crypto Sportsbook
October 25, 2022, 08:46:20 AM
#76
Can this guy win the case?

Most likely but he should be ready to spend money as well during the process

Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?

Am yet to experience such an ugly encounter before and if anyone tries such in the future, they will definitely smell the taste of their ass

Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?

this is common to those kind of casinos with low reputation, am sure an established caeino with a brand name that is common to gamblers wouldn't have done such a silly act by depriving gamblers thier winning claim

What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

Know the type of casino you're gambling under, conduct your research on them and have fellow gamblers to attest to their being trusted, check thier history, know those behind the casino as founders or developers, then always have a law suit backup in case of any abuse.
hero member
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DGbet.fun - Crypto Sportsbook
October 25, 2022, 08:03:26 AM
#75
The question is....

1. Was it a technical error or did they wipe the Bet ID.

Judging from reading the attached link, I think there was an intent to cheat on the side of the casino company. He bet on two casinos and won on both of them, the other casino paid while this one did not so I think the technical error was just an alibi but the truth is they don't want to pay the winning so I think bringing the case to the court is the way to go and I hope that he will win the case so that this casino will be prosecuted and be banned/closed forever.
hero member
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October 25, 2022, 07:17:36 AM
#74
How bad it is when you finally get what you want and suddenly you won't get it due to those scammers that are not fair to their players. These kinds of people should be punish and make them pay twice or multiple times the money they planning to steal from this man who might be losing the game all this time and finally won the best time of his life.
But that can be difficult to do, especially if the casino has a relationship with the local regulator, so the regulator will not take the case seriously and will not even allow the person to withdraw the winnings in full. Maybe the regulators will advise the person to take the money the casino has suggested and leave the case, but I don't know. Anything can happen regarding money. Maybe only the people in the regulators can pressure the casino to pay out the winnings in full and for that, these people have to have the integrity to uphold justice.
hero member
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October 25, 2022, 04:52:50 AM
#73
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This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

For those requesting the link, here it is: https://punchng.com/lagos-lottery-company-arraigned-for-refusing-n72m-win/

Interesting- I do think that he will win this case. As far as I know, in a game of chance, any technicality is construed and favoured against the gambling company due to the nature of such risk present. In this case, the gambling company cannot argue that they cannot pay the winnings on the person due to a mere technicality in their system.

Put it this way- assuming that the person lost the bet, can he claim back the amount he wagered due to technical issues experienced by the gambling company? This is really convenient for the gambling website as they can always argue and raise the issue of "technicality" to avoid paying their customers.
hero member
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You own the pen
October 25, 2022, 03:26:22 AM
#72
How bad it is when you finally get what you want and suddenly you won't get it due to those scammers that are not fair to their players. These kinds of people should be punish and make them pay twice or multiple times the money they planning to steal from this man who might be losing the game all this time and finally won the best time of his life.
legendary
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October 25, 2022, 03:11:15 AM
#71
The question is....

1. Was it a technical error or did they wipe the Bet ID.

The casinos keep very good records of ALL bets that are done on their platform, so they should be able to draw those reports. The first thing I do when I win something BIG ..is to record the BetID and also to make a screen capture of the Win. (The screen capture will have a time stamp of the time and date of it being taken, so you can use that as proof.)

I find that smaller casinos with a small Bankroll, will look for reasons not to pay people... so I avoid them. Play with the more reputable and large casinos, because they do not have issues when it comes to large payouts.  Wink
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