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legendary
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October 25, 2022, 04:09:22 AM
#70
I wonder if this one is true story or not. Although it's really discouraging if gambling company can't deal when their customer won. Their argument doesn't even make sense to me. How can it be wiped out from their systems anyways. I am sure he has proofs to claim that he won. But company probably has nothing to disprove so they went with totally empty "it was removed from our database" claim. Doesn't make sense.
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October 25, 2022, 03:21:29 AM
#69


Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

I'm not a legal practitioner but I have this great feeling that with a sound lawyer, the guy has a 85% chance of winning the case, because how will a winning record be wiped out of your system? And he has his slip with him as a prove and why at several instances does the casino want to pay him those figures ?

I'm also proud of the guy, for not giving it up to settle for the little given to him and this will be a great lesson to other casinos and betting sites because if be finally wins the case, he wouldn't only be paid the $169,000 but other accumulating charges and compensations.

I personally haven't experienced this because I haven't won this amount or anything similar to it.

Just as you hope to win, I guess, this casinos and betting sites also hope you fail because there must be a loser to have a winner and maybe they took the money with expections of the guy losing which backfired a d the win got so heavy in them.
I think they would have contacted the winner and explain the terms to him and possibly come to a concrete agreement and conclusion with the guy rather than wanting to forcefully deprive him of his winnings. Guess this isn't the first of its kind for them but met their perfect match this time.

Good policing should be done in this casinos and bet sites and try to set examples with defaulters, so other canesrn from it.
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October 25, 2022, 03:03:40 AM
#68
Please can you include the link for the authenticity of this information. I will also like to read the news in full.
Is there a link or a screenshot of the story this is the first time I heard of such
Here is the link: https://punchng.com/lagos-lottery-company-arraigned-for-refusing-n72m-win/

This is crazy is not possible
Did I just read it's not possible from you? Wake up, it's so possible, as a matter of fact, it is happening. Cheating casinos/lottery companies are everywhere, just be sure that you do your homework before entrusting your money to any of them.

It's hard to say what his chances will be to win this case, without knowing the gambling laws in his country. With winnings of above 150,000 USD it makes sense to get an expert lawyer to take care of it. Since he was offered already two times money from the company his chances seem good.
The amount he won is a good encouragement to employ a very qualified lawyer, but unfortunately, many are being swindled of their money because they can't afford that. However, there is no country that will be so poor in gambling law that would deny the guy his money in a court of competence.
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October 25, 2022, 01:26:37 AM
#67
It was such an unfortunate event that the winner didn't get to take home his prize because the gambling company don't want to pay him.

I applaud him for taking action about the incident because the money involved is big enough and he can utilize it over many things already. It was such a very wrong move that the gambling casino refused to pay him his winnings. If ever they really did technical error, then it is solely their fault and not the winner's. They should be held liable if they will refuse to compensate him according to his bet.

These greedy gambling company just shows that there are really rigged games. It's impossible that they don't have any backup database for that especially they are a business operating. Perhaps the winner they have chosen didn't turn out to be the one who technically won, hence the reason why they don't want to pay. I think the winner of the lottery will win the case if he has enough substantial evidences to show the court. After all, he already went too far by filing a case against them which just means he have so much on his hands to prove that he is the winner.
legendary
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October 24, 2022, 07:53:36 PM
#66
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

None. Just trust that the lottery company will be fair in all concerns. That was really unfortunate for the winner but since the company itself claimed that there was a technical error, then they are the ones to blame. The company is even offering money to end the case then which means, the winner fairly and legally won the lottery.

That will ruined the reputation of that lottery if they will insist to do such dirty trick.
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October 24, 2022, 07:48:41 PM
#65
Can this guy win the case?

I have my doubts that the man will prevail in court. If the business that paid him so much decided to settle the dispute without going to trial, they may still pull off an unexpected maneuver in court and prevail.

This depends on the victim if he approved of the offer.  This simply means the guy has already won the case since he get paid of his winnings.

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Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?

Maybe the casino will go wretched when they give out such amount to him. Some companies just entice people with offers that are not realistic to win and even themselves the company; don’t worth such amount.

Or possibly it is the practice of the casino.  Looking for reason to not pay the player of huge winnings.  This may sound absurd but this kind of things really happen especially when the gambling platform does not value reputation but how they can take advantage player.
legendary
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October 24, 2022, 07:44:16 PM
#64
In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

I think this should not even be a discussion as the case is pretty clear and sided with the winner.

The reason is because of the company's poor system. The lottery is always associated with a betting slip regardless if it's online or physical. That's already good support for that winner to win the case.

Can you share the link to that news here so we can know more details?
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October 24, 2022, 07:18:26 PM
#63
A lottery is heavily regulated therefore chances of that winner winning the case is possible.

As you mentioned, the lottery itself claimed that the winning has been wiped off their database as a result of a technical error. That's clearly their fault!

The winner just needs to show his winning ticket. It's impossible to create such a ticket intentionally for that purpose that's why it's big proof that the guy won.
They can't reason that out in the court and they'll have to be responsible for that error that has happened and not passes it on to the winner. The winner doesn't hold the system and the fact that he's been tried to get paid for him to retreat his complaints shows that he deserves it.
If the casino just hands out his actual winning, there won't be any problem for them but this could put a stain on their reputation that might impact and show a decline in their userbase. When in fact that there was a technical error that has happened, other gamblers will feel unsafe about them.
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October 24, 2022, 07:16:27 PM
#62

This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?

It is highly possible for the guy to win the case as long as he has all the evidence of his winnings.

Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?

I haven't experienced this kind of thing yet.

Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?

This is a common practice of fraud casinos.  they will accept the bet but they will deny the payment of winnings if it is huge.

What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

This is another reason that gambling should be regulated.  In times when a gambling platform is cheating its player, authorities will punish these fraud gambling platforms if proven.
legendary
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October 24, 2022, 07:15:32 PM
#61
Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

A lottery is heavily regulated therefore chances of that winner winning the case is possible.

As you mentioned, the lottery itself claimed that the winning has been wiped off their database as a result of a technical error. That's clearly their fault!

The winner just needs to show his winning ticket. It's impossible to create such a ticket intentionally for that purpose that's why it's big proof that the guy won.
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October 24, 2022, 06:30:47 PM
#60
Many are asking for a link or the screenshot of the news but so far OP is not providing anything until now, he even had it in his title
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A disheartening true life winning story
if this is a true story you should provide the source because this is considered a scam, I read a lot about online casinos not paying but not yet a lottery company because lotteries are under strict guidance by the government or they will be strip of their license to operate and they will get a lot of criticism and lose sales.
If it’s already with the court, I’m sure they will handle this properly and address the issue. Not paying because of the system problem of the company is not a good excuse, most probably there is something more behind that and they have to provide more documents to the court to prove it. I’m also wondering if this story is true, nevertheless we should aware what to do if something like this happened to us.
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October 24, 2022, 06:21:19 PM
#59
Can this guy win the case?

I have my doubts that the man will prevail in court. If the business that paid him so much decided to settle the dispute without going to trial, they may still pull off an unexpected maneuver in court and prevail.


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Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?

Maybe the casino will go wretched when they give out such amount to him. Some companies just entice people with offers that are not realistic to win and even themselves the company; don’t worth such amount.
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October 24, 2022, 06:09:33 PM
#58
Can this guy win the case?
It depends on the evidence he has.
If he has strong evidence, he probably wins the case as long as the court is fair enough and serious to learn the case.

Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Never. Rarely won, but always got the prizes once winning the games.
Maybe they were small prizes, so the gambling company gave them easily.  Grin

Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
Only an untrusted gambling company that refuses to pay.
I am sure there will be no refuses if we win the games on a reputable/trusted gambling company.
That's why it is necessary to analyze the reputation of the gambling company first before we decide to gamble there.

What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
Be aware to choose reputable/trusted gambling sites or gambling companies.
There are too many options, just avoid those which have bad reputations.

legendary
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October 24, 2022, 06:04:52 PM
#57
Can this guy win the case?

yes he can win the case as it is a lottery and if he has the winning ticket and if the lottery company announced in public who the winner was then the court can ask some tv channel for the video showing that his ticket and the winning ticket, but the problem with that is that this is going to be a very lengthy process because the company can go to another court whenever they lose and the guy who won is going to spend a lot of time and money to recreate the amount he won, maybe make a fair deal with the lottery company

Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?

well, in my case i only use online casino

Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?

the reason is very simple: because the guys want to keep the players' money, just like the people from the scam casinos

What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

this is the government's job
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October 24, 2022, 05:56:17 PM
#56
Yes can if this guy have a proof and the law court in his country are fair. Before you play on an online lottery, you must to be a research the site to see if they have proof of payment of the winner's. I personally have never experienced it in an online lottery, because I always research before starting. So If I win they always paid, maybe the amount of wins is also small.
He's got the proof and that's why they've tried to pay him lower than his winning amount. The court should really be fair on this one and they shouldn't be bought out by the casino.

There are many silent cases like this that they're forced by the casino to pay little when they think that the winner has won it cleanly and legitimately.

This case is different since the winner can spend that much and willing to spend his time and money for it. Good luck to him and hoping that he'll get his outright money.
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October 24, 2022, 05:50:41 PM
#55
I read the same news which I believe is not in the news paper but in an online news outlet... Here is the link https://www.legit.ng/business-economy/money/1499198-man-plays-bet-n50000-wins-n727-million-company-refuses-pay/

According to the article, the man in question won on two different lotto plaform.
From premier lotto - he won 48 million naira which they paid him.
From Green lotto - he won 72 million naira which they(green lotto) have refused to pay.


The man is indeed very lucky wit the winnings, and I hope he wins the case and green lotto hand his money over to him.
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October 24, 2022, 05:49:47 PM
#54
Can this guy win the case?
If the guy is having evidence then I believe he will win, since the casino is trying to compensate the guy then they believe if they are charged to court he will definitely win the case that's why they just want the case to die down.
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
I haven't experienced this before probably is because I use a reputable gambling site or because I haven't win big amount before, most of my wins are small amount that a gambling site won't want to lose their reputation because of the amount.
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
I think the gambling site is not a reliable site, no matter how big the amount you win, I don't think a reliable gambling site will hold your funds if you don't go against their rules and regulation. I think the gambling site see the guy's win as massive one and they can't really afford to pay the winner that huge amount of money.
legendary
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October 24, 2022, 05:03:54 PM
#53
Many are asking for a link or the screenshot of the news but so far OP is not providing anything until now, he even had it in his title
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A disheartening true life winning story
if this is a true story you should provide the source because this is considered a scam, I read a lot about online casinos not paying but not yet a lottery company because lotteries are under strict guidance by the government or they will be strip of their license to operate and they will get a lot of criticism and lose sales.
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October 24, 2022, 05:01:28 PM
#52
In my opinion, the company offering him smaller amounts of money in the court is a positive indicator forthe gambler, because the company is indirectly accepting the fact the man is right in demanding his prize when they offer him money, although they refuse to pay the whole prize. The question is, why is the company denying him full payment if they are willing to pay 29,900$?

If it were a technical error, the casino wouldn't be offering him a single penny!
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October 24, 2022, 04:50:56 PM
#51
I think he will win it. The fact that the company is offering him money means there is legitimacy in his claim, there must be proofs of his win that's why he won't budge at the offers given to him. Now, the gambling company will have more problems after he wins this case.
Reputation is first. Instead of just paying the man, they took the risk of going this far so now their business will be in danger too.

I have not experienced this yet and I wish to never do.
Why do they do it? Well, when it's about the money anything can be done. But sadly, in this case, they are not looking at long term profits.



The gambling casino has obviously at fault in this so they have to pay the gambler on his winning bet because that’s the right thing to do. Otherwise, if the casino continue to act like a scammer and continue to be greedy on their part, well they will lost their business in the long run because other gamblers will definitely most likely not to gamble their money at this certain casino. Losing their reputation will mark the end of their business.
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