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legendary
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October 24, 2022, 03:43:50 PM
#50
Damn, technical error can't be a reason to cut his winnings and offer lower rewards. It is the job of the tech team to control all possible errors, and attacks instead of blaming the winner and refusing to pay. Hiring a lawyer and looking for legal action looks like the only way for the company to pay promised reward as written on the conditions.

if the player has all the tangible proofs that he won on that day, he has big chance of winning this case. also, if the numbers are posted as the winning lottery numbers and it corresponds to the lottery ticket of the person. then, definitely he has valid proof of being a winner. he needs to find a good lawyer to get his winnings. the technical error is not his problem being wiped out in the system, because the winning numbers were already published on that day and fortunately the player has it.
cheating in gambling will always be here and i don't think it will be totally eradicated for good.
legendary
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October 24, 2022, 03:39:06 PM
#49
This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
Definitely he will win on this, he won the lottery and whatever happened on the data base of that company is not his fault, he won and he deserve to get the right reward. Now that company will pay more because of this.

They refuse probably because of insufficient funds or they have no plans to pay at all.

Report to the authority and it’s good to file a case against them. As long as you have the evidence you can win on this. 
They shouldnt have run a lottery if they arent really paying to those possible wins.If they had lacked out some funds on giving the winning amount then they had just simply missed on putting up limits on how much
a winner could potentially win out on max manner or simply they arent really paying at all.Its true that as long that man does have the lottery ticket then it would really be a solid evidence
which he could really make some fight until the company would decide on paying him up.He do deserve those winnings and its just not a right reason for the company that there
were some internal errors because numbers had been published out then it would be considered as final.
full member
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October 24, 2022, 03:32:08 PM
#48
This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
Definitely he will win on this, he won the lottery and whatever happened on the data base of that company is not his fault, he won and he deserve to get the right reward. Now that company will pay more because of this.

They refuse probably because of insufficient funds or they have no plans to pay at all.

Report to the authority and it’s good to file a case against them. As long as you have the evidence you can win on this. 
hero member
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October 24, 2022, 03:24:00 PM
#47
Provided that the company have agreed that the man won a game and it was wiped in their database due to their error which is not the man's fault, so with the initial agreement or acceptance that the Man won a game and because of their system we're unable to pay because of the database got corrupted, it will win them in any place it take the matter to, except that it's a situation where by it don't want recover or take the money from them.
legendary
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October 24, 2022, 03:03:23 PM
#46
This story reminded me the importance of decentralized platforms... I think all centralized platforms should prepare to become decentralized platforms one day because we have no other way to get rid of such problems. Today, I use some central platforms with peace of mind, but there are always some doubts inside me, that's why I put some limits on myself in all my bets... As a result, I think the unfortunate hero of this story may not get the money he earned from the bet. I hope he will try his luck at more reliable betting sites from now on, and if we don't want to experience such things again, we should strive for the spread of decentralized platforms.
hero member
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October 24, 2022, 02:59:40 PM
#45
Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
-If he does have that lottery ticket and some screenshots on the draw date then for sure that would be a solid evidence or proof which would be enough for those lottery operators to face up some shit.
-So far i didnt hit any lottery or huge wins, therefore i dont really have any experiences related to this.
-When they dont have any plans on paying since from the start then it does really simply means that they are just running lottery and hoping to have cash grab into those who do bet but on the time
that someone do able to hit then this is where alibis and reasoning do happen.
-This do usually take on legal action but of course you should really make yourself preparing up some funds considering approaching lawyers and other stuffs
would really be costing you.
legendary
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October 24, 2022, 02:21:37 PM
#44
Casinos should not get into these kind of activities. It looks like OP have played in a reputed platform, if not he can't go anywhere for help claiming his win. As the platform have enrolled with the National Gambling Board, he have reached them. The board in favour of the casino is unfair. Surely we can expect good result if the judge isn't corrupt.

End of the day everything is business. When the respective platform drops down of the calculated profit, automatically the management will support to do these kind of act. This isn't good, and I expect the gambler to stay strong.
sr. member
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October 24, 2022, 02:20:16 PM
#43
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This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

there have been many stories like this happen, bookies always have a trick if they feel threatened by a big win, they will surely bribe all the authorities so that the young man can agree on the number of lottery winnings they offer in court.
if the guy has money then he has to fight for it even though his time, money and energy are wasted, because the bookie is a scammer and has no desire to pay the guy who won the lottery from their company, I hope that guy can win.
legendary
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October 24, 2022, 02:09:23 PM
#42
Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.

The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.

This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

What actual proof does he have that he won this amount? That's one of the first pieces of evidence a court will ask. It seems like a rather amateur mistake for what presumably is a licensed lottery operator to make, to lose this information - are they saying his name is not present in a database of ticket buyers? Are they saying they don't know what the winning results were? I don't understand why they would offer such settlement figures unless they were fairly confident he had a case against them, in which case a judge will likely side with the claimant because he shows they are not competent operators. I don't understand how he charges them with anything, doubt he is a police officer and it would likely just be a civil court case against them.
hero member
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October 24, 2022, 02:01:53 PM
#41
Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?

Yes can if this guy have a proof and the law court in his country are fair. Before you play on an online lottery, you must to be a research the site to see if they have proof of payment of the winner's. I personally have never experienced it in an online lottery, because I always research before starting. So If I win they always paid, maybe the amount of wins is also small.
legendary
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October 24, 2022, 12:35:54 PM
#40
Yes, very outrageous how this lottery is trying to steal this guy in broad light even by trying to erase all kinds of evidence.
I would die of an anger episode if this happened to me, to be honest.  Roll Eyes




Can this guy win the case?

I dont know the full context of this case, I would say it would depends whether this lottery has "friends" and collaborators in the government, they could even try to bribe a judge for 30k$ to stop this case, in order not to give the money this guy deserves. So It would depend whether on how corrupt this country is and the connections of the lottery.

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Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?

Never

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Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?

Because they want to earn money by having a lottery but likely they do not have the liquidity to pay this big win or something similar.
it is quite ironic if you ask me, in general, when someone gets a big win in a lottery, legit lotteries take advantage of the situation to advertise the fact they actually pay their winners, giving a giant check and having a little party, ect, to make more people bet. This leads me to believe this lottery is far from being legit.

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What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

Decentralized contracts in some reputable blockchain or the lotteries could be forced by law to have their prizes in cash held by a third party, possibly a bank, so they cannot withdraw it or hide it in case there is a big winner; not the best solution but it would work for those lotteries unwilling to try blockchain technology.
hero member
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October 24, 2022, 11:49:41 AM
#39
Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.

The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.

You should have backed up your information with a source, but nevertheless, this is a big fraud.

What were the comments of the National Gambling board? Why are they taking sides with the gambling company in return to pay the player sum of $29k instead of $169k. This is not like a mistake from the player, it is an error from the gambling company and as long as there are no terms that state otherwise, the gambling company must pay the player his full payment.

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This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

I am confident that even with the error they are using as an excuse to make the full payments, they don't have the intention to pay the player. If the player stands his ground to the end, the lawyer will get to the root of the case and will definitely get his money.
Some gambling companies have a way they cheat players and this is just one of them, there are other ones that even lock up accounts for unknown or genuine reasons to get ahead of players, the solution lies ahead of regulators and the licencing agency.
hero member
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October 24, 2022, 11:47:13 AM
#38
Can this guy win the case?
Highly likely, but it still depends on his country's court and how they will be able to subdue the case.

Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
On an online casino, Yes. On a physical or offline casino, No.

Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winnings?
Because life is unfair and there will always be people who will avoid things such as losing money and cheat someone below them.

What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
Unfortunately, for me, I don't think that there will be a permanent solution to such a problem as people will always try to cheat someone else especially for money.
full member
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October 24, 2022, 11:39:08 AM
#37

Or maybe the casino doesn't have that much money so they refuse to pay the guy. But if so, the casinos should have thought about it before they launched that lottery program.

It may be the case that the casino doesn't want to lose the betting money that is also huge and they decide to stake it not expecting the bettor to win it. It is a hard trick of the game of chance, the casino also took a bet on that he can lose and all the betting money is turning to theirs but now unfortunately is not that way and they have to make payment to the bettor is simple.
copper member
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October 24, 2022, 11:33:24 AM
#36
That lottery company shouldn't be trusted anymore, and it wouldn't be of any help to anyone if they cannot admit and be responsible for the actions that they are doing. Imagine being offered money if it was a technical error or something. It should've been fair and square. That lottery company might have shady owners, and they want as much as possible to have no winners of that kind. They know it's a substantial amount of money to be paid off.

I do hope that the guy will win that case. It's unfair for the gambler since his luck is included. I'm not that lucky to experience that kind of thing. If we're talking about cryptocurrencies and you play into a reputable one, I think you would have no problem cashing it out.
legendary
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October 24, 2022, 11:28:16 AM
#35
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Can this guy win the case?

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Well link to the source of the story would help for starters. You talk about USD conversion and we don't even know which casino was it or even the country this took in place, or if he even was a citizen of this country. Different countries have different resources to handle something that happens overseas.
hero member
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October 24, 2022, 11:08:13 AM
#34
In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

WTF! could this be true? such casino need to be sued to face the court of law, such are the type with bad reputation, but i think the gambker could go as far to any length with them as long as he still have the stake slip together with him, or maybe he should try contact the gambling real physical head office location, it could have been that the branch he went are the ones trying to play smart on him to take his winnings.

The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.

Good moves, there's positive indications that he will winnthe case since we've seen the two moves at first, they wanted to eat up his winnings and have it to themselves, sometimes I just wonder the number of gamblers patronizing casinos each day with the amount of losses they make to those casinos, it's actually a huge amount each day because you rarely see a gambler making win, it happens but occasional.
hero member
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October 24, 2022, 10:19:00 AM
#33
He can charge the company in court for additional compensation, but there's no way he can be deprived of his winning because of technical error it's the obligation of the lottery company to pay their winners no one will trust and bet on their casino if their alibi is there is a technical error and database was deleted, so far should show us if this story is really true or just a made up story because it sounds unbelivable.
hero member
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October 24, 2022, 10:01:55 AM
#32
Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.


Who is responsible of any technical error? For sure, the gambler cannot be deprived of the payment because of any technical error because it is the responsibility of the gambling house to ensure backups are in place in case any technical error occurs. Ideally the gambing house shoud pay him the full amount which he had won.

However, there could be a situation that gambling casino is using the technical error as an excuse to not give payment to the customer. In such a case, gambling house will not pay and i am not sure what else you can do if they refuses to pay you ?
hero member
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October 24, 2022, 09:48:54 AM
#31
Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
* If it's still on, then, the possibility will always be there for the guy to win the case and I'm rooting that he can win it.
* I can't recall such.
* They're like certain that no one will file a case on them or that they think it will just a waste of time for the complainant if they do.
* I don't think that will be easy nor will be completely out of the picture in the industry, it may be done within a short period of time but in the future something will happen again.
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