This is unfair to the bettor and if the guy who won would win the case, the casino will surely lose its credibility and will have its reputation ruined. That kind of casino should be avoided because the worst cases might happen in the future. They might be having a hard time paying that huge sum of winning but they should not lie about it or even accuse it of an error. The guy deserves justice so if proven guilty, the casino should also pay all the damages and expenses that the guy spent.
If there will be a source news about this it will be easier to verify if its a local casino or in what game did they win. If there are already settlements and seems the regulatory is in favor of him then there will no reason for that casino or company to not give his winning unless that casino have no funds to pay. Thru this case this casino can either have penalties or stop operation if the winner will do put all his effort to demand to get his reward or to stop gambling in operating if there’s no way to get his winnings. 
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Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.
In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.
The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.
The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.
This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:
Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.
The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.
The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.
This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:
Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
Based on your story, it is obvious that the man who won the Lottery will win. Why did I say? because if what the winner says is not true, why did the company offer the bettor 23k$ and the second attempt was 29900$? they showed and proved that the man won. The only reason they say this is that there was an erasure in the database or a technical error. In short, what they said is a false statement.
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Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
Maybe, there are gambling owners who do exactly that. If they don't expect someone to suddenly win a large amount of money, they have control over whether they will pay or not, because if they don't want to pay because of the large amount, they can the gambler's account is unopposed, and no matter what their support report is, they will ignore it, but if there is strong evidence and their gambling business will be compromised, they will settle the complainant.But if the cryptocurrency gambling platform is legit like Stakes, Duelbits, Trustdice, Blackjack, Rollbit, owl, and others, I don't think they are the kind of gambling company that will just create an alibi so that their players don't get the prize.
The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.
yes, this is the right step taken by the lottery winner, there is no other way but to report to the relevant parties.Can this guy win the case?
Cases like that, as far as I know, depend on the rules that have been set by the country, regarding gambling and lotteries.• Countries that legalize lottery gambling sites, those who are cheated will win in this case, provided they have valid evidence, if the lottery agent is not willing to pay for the user's winnings.
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
A lot, that often happens in the type of lottery gambling, what's more, users win a lot, in some cases I have seen agents run away, without paying the winnings.Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
It is common knowledge, gambling parties do things like that, aka deceive users.What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
Nothing, except: placing a bet on a responsible and reputable lottery gambling site. 
Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.
In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.
The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.
The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.
This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:
Can this guy win the case?
In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.
The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.
The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.
This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:
Can this guy win the case?
I do not know in which country this case occurred, so it is difficult for me to analyze this case. we don't get much from the information you share, there is no link as a clear, accurate and definite reference source. so, we can only assume unilaterally from the information you convey.
however, it becomes important for you at least to choose a gambling platforms that has a reputation that is credible, trustworthy, fair and transparent. so you can make sure cases like this happen to you of course.
In this case, if there was some kind of conspiracy from the start that he claimed the lottery, then the person you spoke of in this case should have won the case in court. interestingly, if he were betting on a legal platforms, things like this wouldn't have happened. So I think it's important for you to choose on platforms that really have a really good reputation.
This is probably a local lottery. Tried to search it too but there is no article about it.
If the lottery company offered him $23,000 and then the National Gambling Board offered again for $29,000 then there must be truth to him winning the lottery but the two are just in cahoots not paying him. I guess he can win the case since he can provide the details of his lottery ticket.
National Gambling Board seem to have more connection to a corrupt justice system. I would probably negotiate to at least 60/40 or something if I am in his shoe. Get more evidence from this deal.
Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.
In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.
The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.
The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.
This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:
Can this guy win the case?
In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.
The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.
The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.
This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:
Can this guy win the case?
I do not know in which country this case occurred, so it is difficult for me to analyze this case. we don't get much from the information you share, there is no link as a clear, accurate and definite reference source. so, we can only assume unilaterally from the information you convey.
however, it becomes important for you at least to choose a gambling platforms that has a reputation that is credible, trustworthy, fair and transparent. so you can make sure cases like this happen to you of course.
In this case, if there was some kind of conspiracy from the start that he claimed the lottery, then the person you spoke of in this case should have won the case in court. interestingly, if he were betting on a legal platforms, things like this wouldn't have happened. So I think it's important for you to choose on platforms that really have a really good reputation.
This is crazy is not possible and if this is possible then any lottery company can just refuse to pay those who won millions because of a database error, once the result shows up its final, any court will even penalize any lottery company that will do this its fraud and it will lose the confidence of the betting public, so far OP did not provide a link or screenshot of the story, so we'll know the whole story and what really happens.
This is unfair to the bettor and if the guy who won would win the case, the casino will surely lose its credibility and will have its reputation ruined. That kind of casino should be avoided because the worst cases might happen in the future. They might be having a hard time paying that huge sum of winning but they should not lie about it or even accuse it of an error. The guy deserves justice so if proven guilty, the casino should also pay all the damages and expenses that the guy spent.
This is crazy is not possible and if this is possible then any lottery company can just refuse to pay those who won millions because of a database error, once the result shows up its final, any court will even penalize any lottery company that will do this its fraud and it will lose the confidence of the betting public, so far OP did not provide a link or screenshot of the story, so we'll know the whole story and what really happen.
if it's a system error it's not a reason not to give gifts to members. I don't think the lottery wants to pay big against winnings of up to million. on the other hand maybe those who own the casino don't match the money they have now that makes an excuse. If this appeal is going to be difficult, it will also require a lot of money. I've never experienced anything like this either Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.
In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.
The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.
The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.
This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:
Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
I think , he will gonna win this case. The company still make a negotiations, the higher the govt agency he go the money they offer gets higher as well, if they really think that his data is being wiped or they think that they already remove all the evidences that the man really won the jackpot price then why do they still offer such amount and gets higher everytime he complain? In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.
The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.
The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.
This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:
Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
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Maybe that person can win the case but I don't think it will be easy because it involves a lot of money to pay for the trial or something. But I don't know. I've never experienced anything like him so I'm not sure what will happen next.
Or maybe the casino doesn't have that much money so they refuse to pay the guy. But if so, the casinos should have thought about it before they launched that lottery program. And it's only natural that he refuses the payout from the casino because the amount is not as much as he won. But, if he could act wisely, he should have just accepted the winnings and asked the casino to explain what happened. And if the casino doesn't have enough balance to pay the winner, they have to be responsible for paying it.
Or maybe the casino doesn't have that much money so they refuse to pay the guy. But if so, the casinos should have thought about it before they launched that lottery program. And it's only natural that he refuses the payout from the casino because the amount is not as much as he won. But, if he could act wisely, he should have just accepted the winnings and asked the casino to explain what happened. And if the casino doesn't have enough balance to pay the winner, they have to be responsible for paying it.
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
Which cheating are you referencing? The cheating from the gambling site or the cheating from individuals who play on those gambling sites? for both, stricter rules should be made and the penalty for defaulters be clearly mentioned to discourage gambling sites that take advantage of customers and look for a reason to cheat them, and individuals who take advantage of gambling sites somehow by cheating. There should also be a strong enforcement of penalty for defaulters.
This is crazy is not possible and if this is possible then any lottery company can just refuse to pay those who won millions because of a database error, once the result shows up its final, any court will even penalize any lottery company that will do this its fraud and it will lose the confidence of the betting public, so far OP did not provide a link or screenshot of the story, so we'll know the whole story and what really happen.
Can this guy win the case?
Yes.Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
I haven't.Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
It's either they're telling the truth that there's sort of bug but it's sketchy if they've said that they've wiped off their database. That sounds odd and crazy if it just happened recently when the guy tries to claim his winnings.What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
There's no way that we can avoid that. 
Care to share the link of the source to your story to verify the authenticity of this news? Why he needs to go on National Gambling Board while he already received settlement offer from the casino? It only means that casino is guilty and he should file a case against the casino on court to force them to pay the full amount. I fhe holds the winning number and all the conversation about casino refusing to pay. He will surely win if he has money to sustain his lawyer fee but I believe this will be a settlement close to the winning amount to aboid expenses on lawyer of both side if they continue the case.
Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
It's hard to say what his chances will be to win this case, without knowing the gambling laws in his country. With winnings of above 150,000 USD it makes sense to get an expert lawyer to take care of it. Since he was offered already two times money from the company his chances seem good. The lottery company know they are in the wrong and trying to get a cheap payout. It's good that he declined the payments avd I hope he is documenting everything properly. It shouldn't be an issue for him that the company lost the data for the winnings. If his lottery ticket shows the winning numbers and its legit than he deserves all the money. In my country the lottery company is partially owned by the state and there is no way that they could get out of paying out winnings. The winning numbers are broadcasted on TV and if you have the lottery winning slip with your name on it, its your money. Hopefully he gets all the money and doesn't except a partial payout.
Can this guy win the case?
If the casino is offering him some money and the gambling board that means he has evidence against them that he do play the games and that make him to claim the winning he has, so yes he will win the case. What matters is the evidence he present to the court and they will investigate the claiming. The gambling board has committed already in paying that means not a false claim but they want to reduce the winning amount and the winner disagree. I think the court will judge it that they will pay gradually until complete of the winning claim
Can this guy win the case?
I will say yes. Only want can happen is to convince him to accept low amount, which is what the gambling site is doing.He will not be convince for low price because they offered to him low price and he refuse before approach to court. He will get the winning claim but not at once.
He got this case. He got the ticket, he got the proofs, and the company is trying to bribe him to not sue meaning he has a lot of sense in this lawsuit. Most of us would probably just take the L and get that $29,000, but luckily this man is very determined to get what he deserves. If anything, he could even get more than what he won if the court sees fit, and hopefully that would be the case to teach the lottery company a lesson that they cannot simply state that they voided winnings just because of an error on their part.
Nah, I will still get my winnings and will not accept that bribe. and since he has all the proofs and the ticket then there's no way that he is going to lose this one. Unless they bribe the judge and whoever is involved.
But if this get the attention of the public, then there's no way that he should lose the case. And it's good that he is that determine, I mean it's a win-win for him. So he might as well get and fight it out till the end.
He got this case. He got the ticket, he got the proofs, and the company is trying to bribe him to not sue meaning he has a lot of sense in this lawsuit. Most of us would probably just take the L and get that $29,000, but luckily this man is very determined to get what he deserves. If anything, he could even get more than what he won if the court sees fit, and hopefully that would be the case to teach the lottery company a lesson that they cannot simply state that they voided winnings just because of an error on their part.
Yeah, if that's me, I might've accepted the first offer thinking there won't be a second one, well according to the story.Me being lazy taking it to the high court and the hassle of doing all the paperwork and documents and then, asking a lawyer to handle the case.
I mean, that's still profit from a 690 bet. But the man is aching to receive what he deserves and I think he will get it, and justice will be served.
Is this a private lottery company?
I only know national lotteries, here in our country it's a nationwide thing and in the USA there's Powerball, mega, etc.. which is running per state.
He got this case. He got the ticket, he got the proofs, and the company is trying to bribe him to not sue meaning he has a lot of sense in this lawsuit. Most of us would probably just take the L and get that $29,000, but luckily this man is very determined to get what he deserves. If anything, he could even get more than what he won if the court sees fit, and hopefully that would be the case to teach the lottery company a lesson that they cannot simply state that they voided winnings just because of an error on their part.
Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
Is there a link or a screenshot of the story this is the first time I heard of such, it will definitely ruin the lottery company for such a poor alibi, he will definitely win the case and he can also ask the company to pay the attorney's fee, I don't know the lottery in that country but all the lottery I know about, they are under the jurisdiction of consumer board and they are obliged under the law to pay their winners, he should not accept a settlement fee because that's not his fault but the lottery company.
Yeah, would like to see which country is this one, because it seems that there are corruption with the lottery office. If this is government mandated lottery then they should pay the winner, no if or but.
And why are they offering him that money in the first place? they should give him full credit if by chance he really won fair and square.
So of course we are in the side of the man and hopefully he will get his full price.
Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?
Is there a link or a screenshot of the story this is the first time I heard of such, it will definitely ruin the lottery company for such a poor alibi, he will definitely win the case and he can also ask the company to pay the attorney's fee, I don't know the lottery in that country but all the lottery I know about, they are under the jurisdiction of consumer board and they are obliged under the law to pay their winners, he should not accept a settlement fee because that's not his fault but the lottery company.
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