A disheartening true life winning story - page 9.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on October 24, 2022, 03:43:45 AM

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

They should, as long he has solid proof of the announcement of winners (whether it be via video, an official announcement, or whatever), as well as the lottery ticket that won. It also matters that said lottery should be a legal one though.

On the matter of experiencing it, I have to win first before I can Grin

It might honestly be a real tech accident of sorts, it happens, I just think it's impossible for it to not leave any traces whatsoever though so them avoiding it like this kind of seems odd. It might be for money though I don't think they'd shy away from paying it that much since they're a lottery company, they'd inevitably win in the long run tbh. Put a punishment, a very heavy one for law breakers like in this scenario.

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There is every indication he will win the case and get extra bonus for stressing the matter if presented to an appeal court. He did well by rejecting such tiny amount compared to what he won. As far has his Lottery ticket is intact and the claims to his winning is visible by him the case is a won deal already. There is no way this cheating can be permanently curbed the only measure that can be taken by gamblers is to always ensure their tickets are safe and take legal actions where the gambling company tries playing partial

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I do not know if your story is the same I heard making the rounds in a state in Nigeria and why the governor Charles Soludo decided to summon all the gambling companies in that state to issue them warning or it is a different one. And like Oshosondy said, you should put a link so we can read it up to get the whole story. Most casinos and gambling sites are that way. They are structured in a way that players will keep losing and when anyone escapes it, they find an excuse not to pay. It is either they accuse winners of KYC not being adequate or some double dealings. No, I have not encountered such. It is bad that casinos are set up and will not want to pay out when winnings are recorded. He will win the case. I hope no judicial manipulations happen to him.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on October 24, 2022, 03:43:45 AM

Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.

The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.

This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

If the gambling company where he played has any license and is operating from this license in this guy jurisdiction he is going to win at a 100% rate and that is why I strongly agree with him that he did not accept the sum of money offered from the company.The company maybe is saying let's try to give this guy one fifth of the money he won and let's hope he will be happy with that which he normally was not.Now that the case is in high courts it is extremely likely that he is going to win the case and ask for more money than he originally won because of the behavior of the company.

Below my answers to last three questions.
I have always been paid every time I have won but not those huge amounts as I never won more than 3000.
They take any huge amount of bets because company like this one thinks most of them will lose so why not enrich ourselves and do not think of consequences like this.
Put to jail the owners of such companies,this would surely curb the cheating.

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Please can you include the link for the authenticity of this information. I will also like to read the news in full.

I like what the guy did, the gambling site would be in panic by now, but as they do not have option, maybe they can go bankrupt if all the money is paid, or maybe the gambling site is not having up to that amount of money, not to talk if paying him.

Quote from: EarnOnVictor on October 24, 2022, 03:43:45 AM

Can this guy win the case?

I will say yes. Only want can happen is to convince him to accept low amount, which is what the gambling site is doing.

Quote from: EarnOnVictor on October 24, 2022, 03:43:45 AM

What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

That is life, nothing can stop this. Only what can help is for the person to be able to be in suit with the scammer (the gambling site).

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on October 24, 2022, 03:43:45 AM

Can this guy win the case?

If he has kept proof that he played with the amount you mentioned and proof that he won that amount mentioned as well, but the gambling platform is refusing to pay, he has a really good chance of winning the case if the justice system doesn't get corrupted. Hiding behind an excuse like a technical error is flimsy, would someone who didn't win from a gambling website or casino have the boldness to demand money saying that they won? I doubt. The excuse of a technical error is not sufficient, except they would look for something to pin their refusal to remit wining to.

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The man will win the case if the judge in charge of his case is not corrupt and he also have his evidence or slip to show his winning, but if the judge is corrupt,then sorry he is only going to waste his money and time going to court. I guess the casino is a small one and might not be able to afford such amount of money because from the story he was offered almost the same amount twice at different time and reason, which means they might not even have up to $50000 to give to him,or they are scam.

I know of a gambling platform that when you win very bid like this,if they can't pay you because they are looking at just giving you alone this huge sum of money that can take care of so many persons winning, the casino might get broke so instead of depriving you of your money,in order to keep good reputation of the casino,they will give you a share in the casino by opening a branch for you to operate for them instead of you still playing, you will not be allowed by the casino to play their games. I haven't experience such before but I have heard of such

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The guy can win the case if the judicial system in his location is transparent and not biased, thus if the guy has ample evidence to nail the gambling company for fraud and conspiracy to steal, then he definitely will be victorious.

Quote from: EarnOnVictor on October 24, 2022, 03:43:45 AM

Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?

I haven't experienced that before, i am usually picky on the platforms i play on anyway, i ensure they have a track record of paying winners and no record of unpaid wins, except in cases that the player cheated to get an unfair advantage.

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Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?

The gambling company might prolly be a scam. OR they are a small company that is still growing and thus can't cover that huge win, but that is definitely not an excuse, before getting into this business, they ought to have sufficient funds to cover their maximum winnings, thus any player who wins either the exact maximum or anything under it ought to be paid.

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What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

As players, just ensure you are playing on reputable gambling platforms. Having said that, every country has their own body that checks gambling companies, so they can on their own part work harder to penalize gambling companies that are found guilty of fraud and ensure they pay whatever is owed.

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on October 24, 2022, 03:43:45 AM

Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

It's not that uncommon that (especially in "low rank" countries) national lottery or other lottery companies do rigged games. Meaning that the winners are usually not so random, instead they're linked to certain businessmen or parties.
I would not be surprised it's also the case here. There was indeed a technical error: it was not their man the one winning.

Whether he can win or not this, it's hard to tell. They afford to do this kind of shenanigans exactly because they expect the law enforcement be weak and take the side of the money, not the side of the truth (which may or may not be true).
It's now up to this guy get good proof and it's up to the judge prove the law works in your country. Best of luck (and I mean it)!

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I think he will win it. The fact that the company is offering him money means there is legitimacy in his claim, there must be proofs of his win that's why he won't budge at the offers given to him. Now, the gambling company will have more problems after he wins this case.
Reputation is first. Instead of just paying the man, they took the risk of going this far so now their business will be in danger too.

I have not experienced this yet and I wish to never do.
Why do they do it? Well, when it's about the money anything can be done. But sadly, in this case, they are not looking at long term profits.

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Last week, I read a painful story from a local newspaper where a huge amount was legally won but the lottery company is refusing to pay.

In USD conversion, the guy bet about $690 and won about $169,000, but the gambling company refused to pay him, claiming that his record of the winning has been wiped off from their database as a result of a technical error.

The first step he took was to report at a police station where he was offered about $23,000 by the company which he rejected. He later reported at the National Gambling Board where he was offered about $29,900 which he also rejected. It's at this time he charged them to court with three counts charges of Conspiracy, Obtaining money under false pretence and Stealing.

The case is on, and I hope he wins. The guy is lucky enough to have money to file charges and this is happening within his reach/jurisdiction.

This is a very sad story to me, which is why I ask these four questions:

Can this guy win the case?
Has anyone experienced not being paid for their winning for real?
Why would they take your big money but refuses to pay big winning?
What could be done to curb this cheating permanently in gambling?

For those requesting the link, here it is: https://punchng.com/lagos-lottery-company-arraigned-for-refusing-n72m-win/

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