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Topic: [ANN] CureCoin 2.0 is live - Mandatory Update is available now - DEC 2018 - page 31. (Read 696267 times)

newbie
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I made an account here because I can't stand the hate on curecoin.

As a former computational biologist the work CureCoin is doing is absolutely stellar in bringing awareness to this issue. They are not a  directly affiliated with Stanford, of course! They never pretend to be. What they do is incentivize people to further donate resources to help researchers study proteins - something we know very very little about.

I can tell you straight up I was in one of the most well-funded labs in the country and we had our own power substation. No way any smaller lab could afford to do this. What F@H is doing is solving that problem. What CURE is doing is helping incentivize people to donate their time.

This is an alt coin with its own development team and framework in place, secondly they seem to be innovating to make a quantum-resistant block chain. Now I know little about this space, but CURE and FLDC are what got me into crypto, so I apologize if I'm butchering here, but that sounds pretty incredible to me.

And frankly, I love these research updates because it helps me know I'm making a difference and is important to the "miners" of this coin. I care knowing that I'm helping democratize this research and I want to know the devs are listening to the research community.

It's not "bribing" its creating a mechanism to reward people. Maybe they could change their method for allocating coins to something similar of FLDC, although without counterparty, but I still care about their research updates.

Curecoin Dev people - a lot of people appreciate what you're doing and, being on the other side of research, I know how important it is to incentivize people to do this
hero member
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Because (other than bribing people to be on the CureCoin team) CureCoin is an altruistically-based 3rd party that has no direct impact on any specific project. While CureCoin does help bring some people to folding, the coin itself has nothing to do with folding, the folding software, or the projects that get worked on.


... It's an example of a Work Unit one might get while folding proteins to earn CURE....
If you get assigned a WU from PRCG w,x,y,z, you would get assigned the exact same WU from PRCG w,x,y,z if you were on team 1, team 999999999999999999, or whatever team in between.

CURE is a "payment" given only to members of the CureCoin team, and not to the thousands of other participants, doing the exact same work, on hundreds of other teams
newbie
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None of that has anything to do with curecoin.  Undecided

How's that? It's an example of a Work Unit one might get while folding proteins to earn CURE. This research is the main reason for CureCoin's existence, yes? Work units, although randomly assigned, may effect how folders chose to tune their client's "Cause Preference", or even to add back CPU slots which they previously shut down in an effort to maximize their GPU's points output (as one example).

Since the Poloniex announcement, several members of the community complained that traders on bitcointalk don't really understand how CureCoin is earned, what assistance to disease and drug research our team provides, OR the potential of the network effect crypto can have on that research. We've read many erroneous posts in the Poloniex troll box - individuals making wild assumptions about diseases covered, or how the currency is earned. Most members of the Bitcoin Forum have never visited CureCoin's LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter, reddit or G+ social media pages, and rely solely on bitcointalk for their information about CURE. Many also assume CureCoin's goals are only philanthropic in nature - that's why we created a separate entity called the "CureCoin Project" to process donations. This was to distinguish the currency and CureCoin's Cloud Folding business from any charitable activities.

Let the community decide - maybe nobody cares about new research projects unless it's in the context of exchange rates, mining algorithms, or the latest insider gossip. Perhaps an occasional link to social media posts from here will suffice.

Thoughts?
newbie
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http://folding.stanford.edu/2017/04/26/new-paper-computational-study-brain-protein/
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A new paper from our lab has just been published! We looked at how the brain works at atomic resolution – well, not the whole brain yet, unfortunately, but one…
April 27th at 02:25
hero member
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newbie
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Many have requested that CureCoin start posting more information about the type of computational work we generate. The hope is to keep this an ongoing series of informational posts:

An example of a new, unique research project the CureCoin Folding@home team members participate in relates to a disease called Phenylketonuria which cause irreversible brain damage in infancy. Projects p13717-19 simulate the PAH enzyme in an effort to find the potential causes of mutation. The results of the study could help uncover lead drug compounds to prevent, or help manage the disorder. Each PAH enzyme (or protein) contains over 30,000 atoms which have to be simulated folding using MANY different trajectories - that's why protein folding is so computationally intense - there is no "god formula", however with the help of deep learning and AI, the simulations are becoming more optimized.

This simulation runs on commercial CPU hardware (AMD or Intel / PC or Mac), others run on GPU hardware (nVidia or AMD / PC only) available in most home computers. They can also be run on commercial HPC hardware. The only ASIC available to run protein folding GROMACS molecular dynamic (MD) simulations is currently the ANTON supercomputer. Incidentally, there are over 100,000 known types of proteins in the human body - we only fully understand the folding behavior and functionality of less than 1% of those. Then there are all the unique proteins occurring in all life that are only beginning to be studied. EVERYTHING LIVING is made out of proteins.


Further reading about all the diseases studied by the Folding@home project (including cancer, Alzheimer's and infectious diseases) can be found at this Stanford link. At the very least, the open source results set the bar higher for future studies. Stanford's Folding@home papers are frequently cited in follow-on works conducted by other Universities, Institutes and drug companies. Joining us is easy - just use your Google Chrome browser to fold proteins.)


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Join us in this Google hangout chat for the latest info on Curecoin!
https://hangouts.google.com/group/t3t7uZdgthEhlzOy1
legendary
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Several moderators at Poloniex, say this: "There are many factors that go into delisting a coin, some of the reasons are lack of community, support, development, and performance."


 Which I have already replied to a FEW of them that none of those factors seem to have anything to do with the CURE delisting, ESPECIALLY given they are not delisting FLDC.

 On the other hand, the trollbox mods seem to be treated a lot like mushrooms by Polo....

legendary
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I actually enjoyed Mining FLDC/CURE.

What the hell happened?
You can't mine FDLC, you can get it as payment for folding, though.  Wink
You are playing on word,

but yeah I was 'mining' or 'folding', if you prefer, FLDC on in CURE team.

Now that merged mining its over, it's not lucrative enough to continue.

At least for me!

Have a good day

 You can still do the "merge folding" - it's just not as profitable right now as it was a week ago due to Polo's totally arbitrary stupid and reasonless decision.
legendary
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It's the largest contributor to the Folding@Home project so the impact is definitely there...
That's kind of misleading. One can't honestly say that all of the team members would still be members if they could get paid CureCoin (aka more profits) while being any team of their choosing. While I can only personally speak for 1% of the team, I can assure you that if I could get paid in CURE and be on a different team, I would.

True, though a very solid portion wouldn't be doing it at all if they weren't getting paid. It's also a good gateway into crypto for that community.

 Which is exactly WHY pretty much all of my folding rigs have gone back to mining other stuff after the recent price collapse (except that I will always keep at least ONE rig pointed at folding as long as I can afford to do so).

legendary
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those delisting are shocking, lots of people lost fortunes
If the value of a coin drops significantly because it's no longer on 1 specific exchange, then the value of the coin was small to begin with. In short, if CureCoin doesn't rebound, then the only value it had was tied to people buying it hoping they could find a sucker to pay them more than they paid for it.

so I take it you are referring to 95% of alt crypto then... If they got removed from their main exchange I believe the same would happen.

true to an extent but this effect of a polo delisting is magnified with project with little or no development

the devs here are not that active and the coding and provable work conducted is tiny compared to other projects.

this should have been a hugely successful project and is not due to one reason....the devs treat it like a hobby coin whilst other teams work full time

imagine folding coin being retained on polo and cure coin the original and first booted off.... what a joke the project has become of late.

early adopters and investors have been losing money for years trying to prop it up

 The joke is Polo choosing to delist CURE while keeping FLDC (which is a severe JOKE that can't even come up with it's own wallet, relies on that junk Counterparty system with it's TOTAL RIPOFF FEES to distribute, and probably COSTS some low-producton folks more to get their FLDC out of Counterparty than their FLDC is worth).

 Makes for ZERO trust in Polo as far as I'm concerned.
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...It's kind of like multiple car dealers having a sale on the same day and the guy handing out $5 bills bragging because he had the most visitors.  Undecided
He still sold the most cars  Wink
True, but when they are all Ford dealerships, buying from the same supplier who is sponsoring the sale, and the object is to sell Fords, it doesn't matter because they were all Fords bought and sold through the same supplier. The analogy falls a little flat, but surely you can see the point, no?

I know what you mean, but the daily difference between #1 and #2 is so large that I wouldn't discount the impact.
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_list.php?s=&srt=3

Back to the car example, if the dealership giving out $5 is bigger than the next two combined, that's still a big deal, perhaps a way to examine changing the model for the others to attract more users.
hero member
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...It's kind of like multiple car dealers having a sale on the same day and the guy handing out $5 bills bragging because he had the most visitors.  Undecided
He still sold the most cars  Wink
True, but when they are all Ford dealerships, buying from the same supplier who is sponsoring the sale, and the object is to sell Fords, it doesn't matter because they were all Fords bought and sold through the same supplier. The analogy falls a little flat, but surely you can see the point, no?
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It's the largest contributor to the Folding@Home project so the impact is definitely there...
That's kind of misleading. One can't honestly say that all of the team members would still be members if they could get paid CureCoin (aka more profits) while being any team of their choosing. While I can only personally speak for 1% of the team, I can assure you that if I could get paid in CURE and be on a different team, I would.
True, though a very solid portion wouldn't be doing it at all if they weren't getting paid. It's also a good gateway into crypto for that community.
Right. While I admit that CURE is the "staying reason" for folding, what I mean is that if Joe Blow could fold on team "Cure4Diabetes" and get paid CURE for doing so, then it's likely he would be folding for team "Cure4Diabetes" and not team "Curecoin". The stats are basically "padded" in the favor of team "Curecoin", as being on the team is the only way to get CURE in return for folding.

It's kind of like multiple car dealers having a sale on the same day and the guy handing out $5 bills bragging because he had the most visitors.  Undecided

He still sold the most cars  Wink
hero member
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It's the largest contributor to the Folding@Home project so the impact is definitely there...
That's kind of misleading. One can't honestly say that all of the team members would still be members if they could get paid CureCoin (aka more profits) while being any team of their choosing. While I can only personally speak for 1% of the team, I can assure you that if I could get paid in CURE and be on a different team, I would.
True, though a very solid portion wouldn't be doing it at all if they weren't getting paid. It's also a good gateway into crypto for that community.
Right. While I admit that CURE is the "staying reason" for folding, what I mean is that if Joe Blow could fold on team "Cure4Diabetes" and get paid CURE for doing so, then it's likely he would be folding for team "Cure4Diabetes" and not team "Curecoin". The stats are basically "padded" in the favor of team "Curecoin", as being on the team is the only way to get CURE in return for folding.

It's kind of like multiple car dealers having a sale on the same day and the guy handing out $5 bills bragging because he had the most visitors.  Undecided
member
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It's the largest contributor to the Folding@Home project so the impact is definitely there...
That's kind of misleading. One can't honestly say that all of the team members would still be members if they could get paid CureCoin (aka more profits) while being any team of their choosing. While I can only personally speak for 1% of the team, I can assure you that if I could get paid in CURE and be on a different team, I would.

True, though a very solid portion wouldn't be doing it at all if they weren't getting paid. It's also a good gateway into crypto for that community.
hero member
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Retired IRCX God
It's the largest contributor to the Folding@Home project so the impact is definitely there...
That's kind of misleading. One can't honestly say that all of the team members would still be members if they could get paid CureCoin (aka more profits) while being any team of their choosing. While I can only personally speak for 1% of the team, I can assure you that if I could get paid in CURE and be on a different team, I would.
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those delisting are shocking, lots of people lost fortunes
If the value of a coin drops significantly because it's no longer on 1 specific exchange, then the value of the coin was small to begin with. In short, if CureCoin doesn't rebound, then the only value it had was tied to people buying it hoping they could find a sucker to pay them more than they paid for it.

so I take it you are referring to 95% of alt crypto then... If they got removed from their main exchange I believe the same would happen.

true to an extent but this effect of a polo delisting is magnified with project with little or no development

the devs here are not that active and the coding and provable work conducted is tiny compared to other projects.

this should have been a hugely successful project and is not due to one reason....the devs treat it like a hobby coin whilst other teams work full time

imagine folding coin being retained on polo and cure coin the original and first booted off.... what a joke the project has become of late.

early adopters and investors have been losing money for years trying to prop it up

It's the largest contributor to the Folding@Home project so the impact is definitely there. I think its more of a marketing issue (or lackthereof). I'd hate to see such an interesting project delisted. It's actually doing something good for society.
legendary
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those delisting are shocking, lots of people lost fortunes
If the value of a coin drops significantly because it's no longer on 1 specific exchange, then the value of the coin was small to begin with. In short, if CureCoin doesn't rebound, then the only value it had was tied to people buying it hoping they could find a sucker to pay them more than they paid for it.

so I take it you are referring to 95% of alt crypto then... If they got removed from their main exchange I believe the same would happen.

true to an extent but this effect of a polo delisting is magnified with project with little or no development

the devs here are not that active and the coding and provable work conducted is tiny compared to other projects.

this should have been a hugely successful project and is not due to one reason....the devs treat it like a hobby coin whilst other teams work full time

imagine folding coin being retained on polo and cure coin the original and first booted off.... what a joke the project has become of late.

early adopters and investors have been losing money for years trying to prop it up
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