FYI Batch 2 in-stock units are now available to order for people that didn't want to do a pre-order. All new orders ship within 5 days.
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Hi,
Just saw the link, got very excited, and had to go look.
First up, i love your product, and would love to buy one....
However, sorry to say, but i think especially in the UK, your pice now seems way out of touch.
I mean fully loaded with psu and sd card, iys over £320 before shipping and taxes.
When you compare that to how ridiculously cheap 2nd hand L3+ now are...well, i don't really know what to say
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bitmain-Antminer-L3-504M-Scrypt-Litecoin-LTC-ASIC-Miner-504-MH-s-Bitmain-PSU/133149577170?hash=item1f00554fd2:g:aTIAAOSwbShdIxobhttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bitmain-Antminer-L3-504M-Scrypt-Litecoin-LTC-ASIC-Miner-504-MH-s-Bitmain-PSU/193067388462?hash=item2cf3b68e2e:g:98QAAOSwvdxdEUuHhttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bitmain-Antminer-L3-504MH-s/293198858666?hash=item44440389aa:g:SVQAAOSwcmtdIpnV (No PSU)
Look, i sincerely wish you all the best, and will still happily refer newbies to your product (as i say, i am a supporter, and it IS a prpbably the best starter device on the market), but one is bad, but by the time you buy 2 or 3, i mean you could have 1-1.5ghs from elsewhere.
In my mind its no more than a £200 device, fully loaded.
Just my 2p worth....
J
Thanks for your thoughts but not sure why people keep comparing it to L3s and telling me thats what they "should" be priced at. Its price exactly where it needs to be for me to make it, and pay my bills. This product cant even be compared to an L3 on any metric. Also im not bitmain that is losing 100s of millions of dollars a quarter. I actually operate in the real world where I have to pay my suppliers out of pocket (hence pre-orders), and cant sell something for a loss just because everyone else is.
Your buying a brand new product (not something 3+ years old), thats nearly twice the efficiency, made in the USA, incomparable sound level, and not to mention software updates for this will make it into a full blown casa node, that alone costs 300 USD. Personally I think I am selling this way cheaper than I should be, but im not in the business of unfairly pricing products for pure greed.
Like i said, just my initial thoughts when i saw the price...
However, i guess the reason it gets compared to the L£ it, well becuase they are both "scrypt" miners....erm, its the only competiton for the L3, so is obviously going to be compared.
I absolutely agree...of course you have to make money, how else will you be around to make even more great products. I don't follow Bitman, or who ever they are, so have zero idea that they lose money on their products...seems daft if they do
Don't have an Apollo, so can't comment on noise, my underclocked L3 is okay-ish noise wise, louder, but not as annoying as the moonlander 2's i have, which screech like banshees....
No idea what a Casa node is, so completely irrelevant. (I'm buying a scrypt miner)
Made in the USA, well I'm British, so that means absolutly nothing to me...i know China, whilst making lots of crap, also make world class products, its all down to picking the right suppliers, and managing them. I guess The US of A makes good products too.
Like i say, i absolutely WILL recommend your products to people i think they will suit, and to be honest thats just about every newbie, who wants to dip a toe in, and every "family" guy/gal who wants a beautiful product that can sit in the living room, being a talking point...they look a wierd thing of beauty....i simply think for the more seasoned miner, especially if you want to ramp up the MH, and certainly from a UK perspective, with shipping and taxes, they look a tad expensive ( i never said a complete ripoff, just a tad expensive)
If i ever get offered a 2nd hand one at a decent price, i will happily add it to my collection, and give it a decent test...i actually think, its about as exiting as the original Zeus miners, off which i have about 10, and all thou completely out dated, still make me smile mainly due to their simplicity, and elegance, something i also see in your product. ( like i say i havent seen an Apollo in the flesh, but on YT, etc, they look bloody sexy - for a miner)
The one thing no-one has yet confirmed to me, is can they solo mine directly to a wallet, as the moonlanders do, or not? Thay would actually be the make or break point for me, since i only ever solo mine.
J