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Topic: [ANN] [PRE-SALE 30% BONUS] MASS Token - Masternode And Staking Service - page 19. (Read 29225 times)

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If i get involved with a project it follows that upon researching the developers product line and time line. Well i have no clue on this teams product line

Are you saying you don't own any presale mass?

I do. And will accept a refund once its offered to EVERYONE.

No refunds are being offered. Sorry you misunderstood that. I have some people who are willing to buy you out of your presale MASS.. I thought I was clear in that.
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Great! So now that we can move on from someone having a meldown about someone getting banned in the telegram chat for spamming like 2 weeks ago.
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If i get involved with a project it follows that upon researching the developers product line and time line. Well i have no clue on this teams product line

Are you saying you don't own any presale mass?

I do. And will accept a refund once its offered to EVERYONE.
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Still dont see offer for refund for EVERYONE on telegram announcement page.

Still don't see your message.
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This refund they offered had nothing to do with the legal delay that has now been ongoing for close to 3 weeks. If you cant see their unpreparedness here, fine, but i promise you be prepared for more excuses and delays and "issues" once this launches. Its inevitable.
Everyone loves "their little precious," needless to say, those involved with this project need to take a step back and regroup.

Message us your mass presale account so we can sell them for you? We have some buyers lined up.
I believe even Faeryl might be willing to take them off your hands.

Still dont see offer for refund for EVERYONE on telegram announcement page.
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If i get involved with a project it follows that upon researching the developers product line and time line. Well i have no clue on this teams product line

Are you saying you don't own any presale mass?
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Whine Whine Whine, seems like every currency I follow. If you don't like the currency sell it. Please stop making the people who like the currency and the devs have to hear you cry constantly.
No whining man. Stating facts. If i get involved with a project it follows that upon researching the developers product line and time line. Well i have no clue on this teams product line because there's been excuse after excuse by the developers on pushing back the date. The actual ico was supposed to be over by now and they still havent even announced tge restart of the PRE-ico. Hold those responsible that are due, rather than thinking every thousand dollars you throw at crypto turns to a million.

You seem to like my fav coin also, it's in your sig. I love KMD but you wanna compare them to mass with delays. Most people can't even get the wallet to work. At least mass has a pretty good excuse, the government is starting to regulate.
They had nothing to do with ico wallet. If it was your "favorite" coin you would follow all the bs they have had to deal with to fix it. But they too are very accessible  on slack bitcointalk and no matter how much shit theyve heard, not once have they said one thing offensive in return. Mass has a long way before they get even mentioned in the same breath as Shift much less SuperNet.
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Whine Whine Whine, seems like every currency I follow. If you don't like the currency sell it. Please stop making the people who like the currency and the devs have to hear you cry constantly.
No whining man. Stating facts. If i get involved with a project it follows that upon researching the developers product line and time line. Well i have no clue on this teams product line because there's been excuse after excuse by the developers on pushing back the date. The actual ico was supposed to be over by now and they still havent even announced tge restart of the PRE-ico. Hold those responsible that are due, rather than thinking every thousand dollars you throw at crypto turns to a million.
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You are singling me out in accordance to what contract? You should offer on your Announcement page a chance for those who are too timid to speak out a chance to get a refund as well.
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This refund they offered had nothing to do with the legal delay that has now been ongoing for close to 3 weeks. If you cant see their unpreparedness here, fine, but i promise you be prepared for more excuses and delays and "issues" once this launches. Its inevitable.
Everyone loves "their little precious," needless to say, those involved with this project need to take a step back and regroup.

Message us your mass presale account so we can sell them for you? We have some buyers lined up.
I believe even Faeryl might be willing to take them off your hands.
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The refunds were offered to everyone for a whole week.
They were painstakingly manually processed, whilst the poor team had to put up with all the bullish people screaming for "leave the refund, lets roll out the ico and get staking already" "they can sell their tokens post ico and profit."

The team took a difficult decision to delay the project to see everyone that wanted a chance to exit/refund got that fair chance, assuming they actually cared enough to check in to see what was happening.

You are distorting the truth to serve your agenda.

It is also the responsibility of the investor to do their due diligence when investing their hard earned funds into the wild wild west of crypto.

You don't just invest and forget. You follow the announcements, the telegram chat, the bitcointalk thread. You check for updates like "Due to the white hat incident we are offering a full refund to all who wish it."

And as for unprepared, most ICOs seem to be taking the easy route out and simply cutting US investors from their ico in a quick easy and dirty way to meet SEC guidance.
Mass is preparing to meet those legal obligations by getting expert advice in a cutting edge environment with no clear legal framework, only guidance.

I heartily commend their diligence in ensuring mass is a profitable legal venture for decades to come.


ill personally offer my assistance to the dev team in making whole anyone that wants out up to my limit in eth assuming they are willing to act as escrow agents.


It saves me the issues of constantly checking for the re presale announcement, and guarantees me a place in the presale in as you say a potential 20 million dollar company from the ground floor elevator position.

This refund they offered had nothing to do with the legal delay that has now been ongoing for close to 3 weeks. If you cant see their unpreparedness here, fine, but i promise you be prepared for more excuses and delays and "issues" once this launches. Its inevitable.
Everyone loves "their little precious," needless to say, those involved with this project need to take a step back and regroup.
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The refunds were offered to everyone for a whole week.
They were painstakingly manually processed, whilst the poor team had to put up with all the bullish people screaming for "leave the refund, lets roll out the ico and get staking already" "they can sell their tokens post ico and profit."

The team took a difficult decision to delay the project to see everyone that wanted a chance to exit/refund got that fair chance, assuming they actually cared enough to check in to see what was happening.

You are distorting the truth to serve your agenda.

It is also the responsibility of the investor to do their due diligence when investing their hard earned funds into the wild wild west of crypto.

You don't just invest and forget. You follow the announcements, the telegram chat, the bitcointalk thread. You check for updates like "Due to the white hat incident we are offering a full refund to all who wish it."

And as for unprepared, most ICOs seem to be taking the easy route out and simply cutting US investors from their ico in a quick easy and dirty way to meet SEC guidance.
Mass is preparing to meet those legal obligations by getting expert advice in a cutting edge environment with no clear legal framework, only guidance.

I heartily commend their diligence in ensuring mass is a profitable legal venture for decades to come.


ill personally offer my assistance to the dev team in making whole anyone that wants out up to my limit in eth assuming they are willing to act as escrow agents.


It saves me the issues of constantly checking for the re presale announcement, and guarantees me a place in the presale in as you say a potential 20 million dollar company from the ground floor elevator position.
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Basically by saying that yaks reactions are right has a lot of stuff to deal with is akin to a giant football player beating up his wife because she smacked him. Yak has to be the bigger guy... And so far i didjt, nor have i seen him even come close.

You haven't messaged us yet.
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Basically by saying that yaks reactions are right has a lot of stuff to deal with is akin to a giant football player beating up his wife because she smacked him. Yak has to be the bigger guy... And so far i didjt, nor have i seen him even come close.
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Miko goat was the one acting like a 5 year old in that conversation, and he was extremely provocative.

Shame they already had a buyer for your presale mass, i'd have taken it in a heartbeat.
Miko could have acted like a child, but hes not the front man for a potential 20 million dollar company.
1. unprepared
2. Putting emotional person as front man
3. Failure to follow timelines
4. not offering refunds to EVERYONE after disclosure of legal delays.
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Miko goat was the one acting like a 5 year old in that conversation, and he was extremely provocative.

Shame they already had a buyer for your presale mass, i'd have taken it in a heartbeat.
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I witnessed personally yak go back and forth with a guy with the telehram handle miko goat

You can stop right there.

This user not only spammed the chat to the point they had to be banned, at which point they came on trying to impersonate team members, and private messaged threats to other team members, as well as spammed members in private chat.

So what you 'witnessed' is wrong.

Please private message me your pre-sale MASS address, I have a buyer for it.


Like i said, one of hundreds, i witnessed yak do. Again, post that you will refund EVERYONES money who wants it on announcement channel, not those who are willing to expose your developing PR nightmare.

You had a week and I think you can still get a refund now and buy back at double when it hits the exchanges. People don't like yak but at least he is around.  I assume he gets the same question 100 times around a day and people don't look at the past history of the chat.
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I witnessed personally yak go back and forth with a guy with the telehram handle miko goat

You can stop right there.

This user not only spammed the chat to the point they had to be banned, at which point they came on trying to impersonate team members, and private messaged threats to other team members, as well as spammed members in private chat.

So what you 'witnessed' is wrong.

Please private message me your pre-sale MASS address, I have a buyer for it.


Like i said, one of hundreds, i witnessed yak do. Again, post that you will refund EVERYONES money who wants it on announcement channel, not those who are willing to expose your developing PR nightmare.
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I witnessed personally yak go back and forth with a guy with the telehram handle miko goat

You can stop right there.

This user not only spammed the chat to the point they had to be banned, at which point they came on trying to impersonate team members, and private messaged threats to other team members, as well as spammed members in private chat.

So what you 'witnessed' is wrong.

Please private message me your pre-sale MASS address, I have a buyer for it.

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Hello,
doesnt follow contract protocol

Which contract?

project hasnt even gotten off the ground yet.

Rushing things sounds like a bad plan.

Want a sneak peak at how this project will go, spend 12 hours in their telegram

You mean the team being available 24/7, how about you try asking a question about MASS in the telegram and see how fast you get a response as well. By a question about MASS I mean an actual question about MASS itself, and not anything redundant such as "WHATS THE NEWS???" Try sending an email asking something see how fast of a response you get as well.

time lines, or how they are unaware of deadlines

What timeline, and what deadline? We wish we could be sorry about trying to be as careful as we can to protect the projects future, no amount of whining will change that. Certain things are out of our hands, you can understand that, right? If there are things that are out of our hands, any 'timeline' you reference or any non existent deadline you speak of gets changed. Right?

holding peoples money hostage.

By having a week long full no questions asked refund period. Which I have never seen before in any ICO ever.

If you are unhappy about the project, try offering to sell your pre-sale MASS in telegram.

Answering questions in the telegram? You mean badgering ppl, bullying them, taking what people say or ask as an insult, you mean? There hasnt been any constructive comments in there since before whitehats swooped in and saved the day.

yak is direct, blunt and rough around the edges which can be interpreted by some as unprofessional - if only it were the typical way in which he responded unprovoked all of the time.  You won't typically see this sort of response from him until you've repeatedly asked the same question in different semantics or clearly took a stance of instigation and antagonized out of frustration.  We are all frustrated here.  We're doing our best to handle the situation to the best of our ability, using personal resources and finances and we aren't blaming people for lashing out.  We all need some way to vent and place to do so in.  However, misdirected anger and misplaced blame aren't going to get anyone anywhere.  We'll all benefit more and be more productive working with each other rather than against each other.  So please, consider the fact we're all only human on the other side of the screen before you hit that enter key.
I witnessed personally yak go back and forth with a guy with the telehram handle miko goat for literally 3 hours about whether bitcoin was a coin or token. Yak was not provoked at all, he just went off. And this was even after miko brought up actual dictionary definitions of the words. And that is one of at least 300 instances ive either heard of or witnessed. He "copy and pasted" private ims that occured with him and another telegram user into the main chat in order to harass and show his "power."
"yak is direct, blunt and rough around the edges which can be interpreted by some as unprofessional - if only it were the typical way in which he responded unprovoked all of the time."
We all are emotional creatures and can get a bit overreactive, but you shouldnt have someone as your frontman for your COMPANY, who cant come up with more creative responses than" f0ck off," badgering, and 5 year old responses. PR and the marketing of your product can lead to your success and failure just as much as poor execution of yoyr exvellent product.
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