Topic: [ANN] The world's first handheld Bitcoin device, the Ellet! - page 8. (Read 45628 times)

I think showing the video of the second would be good, because you will both prove that you are actually working on something (even if the video is total crap), AND be able to demonstrate just how much you have improved it with the 3rd generation.
That said, I'm extremely concerned that with the newest version being half the size and designed by twice as good of an engineering team, that the final device will be twice as expensive to manufacture and twice as expensive to manufacture. I wam primarily interested in it due to the low $30 price. As it gets closer to $100, my interest in it would drop exponentially.

Do you have any pics available?
I'm really excited about this 

+1!
That would be cool
If it can also notify me after N blocks, it would actually be useful when I send bitcoins to an exchange

I actually joked about that to my friends that would should have a block counter instead of a clockface. I might actually go ahead and include that if you choose it in the bitcoin payment module.

Where are the pics ?

Shit! I knew we forgot something... 

Thanks for answering my question. Now I don't have to buy a watch until this comes out, assuming it can tell time.

Just because you have a strong competitor doesn't mean you have to spit on them everytime you can.

Because their is awesome, is bitcoin only, is cheaper, is thinner,.... Ok I stop, don't want to upset you. Competition is good, and I guess the market will sort it out.

You successfully confused me to be in the bitcoincard thread too, when I read your post :-)

Ente

Sorry! I thought I was in the bitcoincard thread when I said that.

This statement should be in the press release. I want to hear CNN anchors say "Creators of the device insist that anyone who sees the gadget in action will, quote, "totally fucking shit themselves" unquote. We will have more on this story as it develops."

I already have a much better render available for you here, although please keep in mind this is not the design we are actually going for in the production prototype, just the 3rd pre-production prototype that you will see in a future video demonstration.

http://i.imgur.com/STqwp.jpg


I've already answered this upstream. Many of the major components are open source, yes.

That's still being decided. There is a balance of security versus functionality of course and if security weighs heavier, we may not allow outside application development. That said, we plan on having addons available to Ellet owners to add new currencies/payment methods and update existing ones securely.

It's not a watch. It has a watch band. It can be worn on your belt, on a watch, in your pocket, on your pocket, in your hand, it doesn't really matter and it's up to you how you carry it. As for women not using it because of the way it looks...why did you think there would only be one model?  

I wish Atlas would go away long enough to be missed. He spams reddit daily with self important opinionated garbage.

They said the same thing about the home phone, the desktop, etc. You don't need everyone in the world to do something, you just need a strong minority.

The featureset planned for Ellet cannot be done by any mobile phone currently on the market or even any phone I am aware of in the near future.

Thank you for your feedback, but there is a solution for your concerns-- don't buy one

The Ellet uses a battery and is not a fictitious "project of the future" that paid representatives cannot get their stories straight about the functionality of. It uses a battery. It needs charging like everything else in reality. It also uses standard protocols and does not try to reinvent the wheel of dozens of years of progress "because bitcoin".


This was the intention, yes.

A little update for everyone: If anyone remembers the magazine's beginning, they know that it was a trying experience for us putting the perfect team together (I actually fired quite a few people in the beginning just to bring the professional team I demanded). Well, this project is not shy of my perfectionism either and I've had to let an assistant engineer go. That said, he was replaced with two professional electronic engineers and they are working under command of my project manager, manufacturing agent and myself directly.

I had originally intended to show the 2nd prototype functioning, but I am now of the belief that there is absolutely no point to showing a larger device prototype sending bitcoins (what's special about that? everyone already has a mobile phone that can do that) and decided to hold off on the video presentation until this 3rd prototype is complete. I'm convinced that anyone watching that video will soil themselves.

We've moved our company to the UK where we are now working on the 3rd and final pre-manufacturing prototype. This prototype will be our proving ground for all the features that we haven't yet announced, and a way to polish up the features that we already have announced. Security is obviously of the utmost priority as this device will be consolidating numerous payment accounts into a single usable interface, and I encourage everyone to speak up as to their concerns with certain aspects of announced functionality so that we can properly respond.

A world renowned (I consider to be on of the top 5 in the world) device designer is working on the production prototype model and casing, and I am busy with our own in-house team working daily to bring more useful functions to the device without bloating it. Since our investors are particular about the style in which we announce things, this will be the last unofficial announcement (I am happy to discuss whenever possible) on the forums and we will be announcing further developments through the Bitcoin Magazine and digital press releases.

Thank you everyone for your initial interest and it is my pleasure to continue to bring functioning and high quality products to the Bitcoin community.

Cheers!

Could be a piezo speaker, doesn't need to be a motor. With dolphinclick.wav

That'd be a very interesting (novel?) choice... I'm don't think they've advanced enough for this type of application. They're expensive, don't discharge at a consistent voltage, and are allegedly prone to sparking easily (the device would possibly need to be air-tight, or risk injuring people, perhaps exploderating gas stations). They charge rapidly and you'd never need to replace it (rather, the supercapacitor will not degrade like a normal battery -- you can recharge it over and over without losing capacity), but a cutting-edge supercapacitor that size would last maybe a minute or two with wireless communication enabled, and because voltage output under load decreases rapidly with discharge (unlike with conventional batteries), much of the battery's capacity would be unusable due to the device requiring a relatively high amount of electricity output. (I don't keep up with supercapacitor news, though -- would be interested in some education)

(sub) ETA: Wait -- where is it said that the device has no battery? (ETA2: For some cool, obscure energy storage, how 'bout LiFePO4? Can be recharged many, many times without degradation [not in the same ballpark as supercapacitors, but relative to Li-Ion, dramatically superior cycle life], has a voltage output plateau unlike supercapacitors, has a ridiculously long calendar life, and is relatively safe.)

No way a device with no battery could power a vibrating motor, and no way such a motor could fit into such a thin device and still work effectively. I'm guessing this thing runs on a new design of flat supercapacitor, instead of traditional battery technology.

'airplane mode' isn't about silence, it's about turning off all comms, so it wouldn't know funds are received.

I wonder if it has a silent (airplane mode) that vibrates when funds are received.

Two hops is the default, but there is no real limit.  The default hop can be overriden by software.  Also, these devices are location aware by nature, so vector routing is possible.  Jabber would have to be altered to fit the network model, as I mentioned in the other threads.

Dash7 apparently solves the problem by not routing data any further than 2 hops. So if you're more than 2 hops in the mesh away from the node you're trying to communicate with, you can't send or receive messages to it. Jabber/XMPP is a client-server protocol that assumes all servers are directly reachable by all other servers.