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Topic: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com - page 180. (Read 554401 times)

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I noticed that in about 1 month, BTC per day on CleverMining has gone down over 50%.

I was planning to set up a mining rig, but seeing a 50% drop in 1 month makes me seriously reconsider this idea.

Does anyone know why profitability has gone down so much, and any predictions for the future?

Thanks

I would reconsider, seriously, what you have been planning on considering.




I believe this reply should be amicable, don't you agree?
sr. member
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I noticed that in about 1 month, BTC per day on CleverMining has gone down over 50%.

I was planning to set up a mining rig, but seeing a 50% drop in 1 month makes me seriously reconsider this idea.

Does anyone know why profitability has gone down so much, and any predictions for the future?

Thanks

READ AND YOU SHALL FIND YOUR ANSWER.
newbie
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I noticed that in about 1 month, BTC per day on CleverMining has gone down over 50%.

I was planning to set up a mining rig, but seeing a 50% drop in 1 month makes me seriously reconsider this idea.

Does anyone know why profitability has gone down so much, and any predictions for the future?

Thanks
member
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Thanks to both of you. I ll try both settings.
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fwiw i'm using the default values and not specifying expiry, scantime or queue either via config file or cmd line arguments.

AFter 45mins I got 100% accepted....

I'm in Australia using the Asia server.

I believe the --low-mem option is helping as it won't cache shares. My logic is that it make sure to get the most up to date share as its not caching anything.
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How do you add these commands?

Add:

Code:
"scan-time": "1",
"expiry": "1",
"queue": "5",

To your cgminer.conf file.
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I am using queue 5 scan-time 1 expiry 1. I picked these because these are the suggested settings on the Middlecoin wiki.


How do you add these commands?

in the .conf file? Can you paste these commands here please?

Also, is it possible to use these commands in a .bat file? If so, what are the commands?

Thanks.
FCR
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The "only" config you can change for this pool is intensity and even then its not possible (e.g. 280x).

People pointing at your config, where totally underestimating how overloaded the (only) server was.

Some people had already good configs and after trying elsewhere got good performance and only when they were here they had high rejects. Higher than the expected 10%~ due to the coins that are mined...

Whats a bad config? What setting on the miner did you change? You know that queue, scan time and expiry have no affect and its all driven by the server.

In my subtle way and thanks to Kalroth, it was proved that really the only setting available to you is intensity.

Actually to clarify, Kalroth verified that cgminer code deferred to server derived settings for expiry, queue and scantime when those values are available versus what is set in your config/bat files.  

What gets buried in this thread is his statement that he doesn't know whether Clevermining's servers provide these settings as part of the stratum handshake.

In truth, most Altcoin pools do NOT pass these settings down to the client. So these settings can actually still be set on the clientside and have some effect since there are no server settings provided by the pool to default to.

Kalroth - feel free to chime in here to help clarify your statements further.

If you don't specify them the client uses the default setting, which if set by the server is used. After test I found using various settings including these didn't really help. Once I changed to the Asia server, performance improved. Proof is in the pudding, the US server at the time was overloaded it had nothing to do with a "bad config".

I was being reasonable to, I was willing to put up with no more than 10% rejects.

That's actually reversed... the way the code is written is that the server settings takes precedence.  This was the point that Kalroth was making.

But that only holds true if the settings are actually delivered by the server, which in the case of this pool and quite a few others (I dare say most Altcoin pools), they are not.  At that point it's either your custom settings or the defaults builtin to CGMiner/SGMiner.

Just because they had minimal effect in your particular setup doesn't mean they won't work for someone else, especially when the server is not setting your q, e, s for you.

I can't say for sure if they work on here, but I was getting fairly high rejects, usually higher than average, before I added q, s, e. After I added them, my rejected shares went down considerably to 2.4%. Now on US East server I am at 0.3% rejected shares after 24 hours with those settings. The average on that server seems to be 2-3%. This is just my observation on my own rigs; it may or may not be coincidence.

I am using queue 5 scan-time 1 expiry 1. I picked these because these are the suggested settings on the Middlecoin wiki.
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--kernel zuikkis

Gives me good performance. Also you need a bit of time for WU to stabilise.

Took it for a spin, this happened http://dump.chiko.nl/g/a4e744.png

I do like how those .cl files have a function called shittify() Cheesy
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--kernel zuikkis

Gives me good performance. Also you need a bit of time for WU to stabilise.
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Did you try gpu-thread: 2 and xintensity with your hw-configuration
and one of the experimental kernels in sgminer ?
You can reach over 90% of your hashrate  for WU:

I have got
1.18MH/s and 1100WU
1.40MH/s and 1297WU

I noticed there's a /kernel folder with a couple files in there (alexkarnew.cl  alexkarold.cl  ckolivas.cl  psw.cl  zuikkis.cl) but to be honest I wouldn't know how to tell sgminer to use one of them.

My config is:
Code:
"intensity" : "20",
"vectors" : "1",
"worksize" : "512",
"kernel" : "scrypt",
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
"queue" : "1",
"retry-pause" : "5",
"scan-time" : "30",
"shaders" : "2816",
"thread-concurrency" : "24550",
"gpu-powertune" : "18",
"gpu-thread" : "1",
"sharethreads" : "32",
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"gpu-vddc" : "1.000",
"gpu-engine" : "950",
"gpu-memclock" : "1500"

I'm pretty happy the graphs on Clevermining are now a lot more realistic, I guess patience isn't my strongest point Wink http://dump.chiko.nl/g/a82334.png
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i can only see WU numbers with sgminer but where can i see my WU %?

I am using cgminer 3.7.2 kalroth (dont know if sgminer has this as well)

sr. member
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Worker #1: 97%
Worker #2: 90%
Worker #3: 89%
Worker #4: 91%

So I guess my WUs are fine. Must be something else..

if you post a link to your statistic we will see  Roll Eyes
i can only see WU numbers with sgminer but where can i see my WU %?
member
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Worker #1: 97%
Worker #2: 90%
Worker #3: 89%
Worker #4: 91%

So I guess my WUs are fine. Must be something else..

if you post a link to your statistic we will see  Roll Eyes

Hah, didnt think of that, lol Tongue

http://www.clevermining.com/users/144ctNwtgC3sVJ82bZmJfvboy2GfqCcwdB
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Just because they had minimal effect in your particular setup doesn't mean they won't work for someone else, especially when the server is not setting your q, e, s for you.

It would be good if Terk could confirm if these settings matter, so we can put this issue to rest finally.
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Worker #1: 97%
Worker #2: 90%
Worker #3: 89%
Worker #4: 91%

So I guess my WUs are fine. Must be something else..

if you post a link to your statistic we will see  Roll Eyes
member
Activity: 81
Merit: 10
Worker #1: 97%
Worker #2: 90%
Worker #3: 89%
Worker #4: 91%

So I guess my WUs are fine. Must be something else..
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Thats my average for the last 2 hours. The bottom is the last one hour, sure. But Everything is bellow 3.5KH/s (around 3.2) and now its below 3.

The graph #2 is my real hashrate that is accepted by the server?

Your hashrate is 3.7-3.8MH/s ? but what is your WU-Rate ??

------------------schnipp--------------
Keep in Mind not your hashrate is paid it is your WU-Rate (and this is what the server will show)
The server could not know about your hashrate because it counts only the amount of share that are submitted every time slice.
So the hashrate shown at the server ist not accurate at any given time....you have to look the last 60 minutes.
-------------------------schnapp----------------
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Wow, thanks for the replies guys, wasn't expecting an answer so quick Smiley

My stats are here: http://www.clevermining.com/users/16GYFXDxHRnZqWCMLBctA53Vj9pueCquvM

It's been running a little longer now: http://dump.chiko.nl/g/05f94d.png

One of the reasons I'm asking about this is because I'm using BAMT and have seen some posts about BAMT or SMOS, or similar, have contained scripts to mine for their own profits somehow.

Luckily I don't need to worry about power usage, the only thing I need to worry about is how to get my sixth GPU to work, it doesn't show up in dmesg, but that's an entirely different story.

Edit:
SS:66 ----> seems to be that your miner decide which share is stale (thats bad) let the server decide it!
You are mining in a switching pool !!
"no-submit-stale" : true, in the sgminer.conf ?

Oops, that was indeed in my config, I kicked it out.



Did you try gpu-thread: 2 and xintensity with your hw-configuration
and one of the experimental kernels in sgminer ?
You can reach over 90% of your hashrate  for WU:

I have got
1.18MH/s and 1100WU
1.40MH/s and 1297WU


legendary
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Merit: 1003
you should lower pool diff , scryptguild has from 32 to 256 , clever has only 512 ....

I agree. Before, it was vardiff, 16 to 1024, but for "technical issues" it was disabled. I think its about time you switched it back on.

yea, please go back
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