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legendary
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To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
Is the dev team behind this project publically known (with their real world ids)?

Is there a whitepaper or some other more specific documentation about the technology that is part of this?


Dan Metcalf and I have made our identities public.

There's no whitepaper, but there is Dan's (and XC's) reputation of delivering the goods, on schedule, since its inception.




sr. member
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Is the dev team behind this project publically known (with their real world ids)?

Is there a whitepaper or some other more specific documentation about the technology that is part of this?
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Fibre Knight
lol
dan have all your btc right now

You do know your post and uneducated comments are a historical record, right? Did you want to be taken serious or are you good with being a troll?
legendary
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To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
lol
dan have all your btc right now

That's incorrect. Funds are stored in a multisig address, in escrow, so Dan does not control them.

In due course we'll be releasing details on the board of people who will jointly have control over funds (the funds will still be subject to a third party auditor as well).

legendary
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lol
dan have all your btc right now
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Institute of Advance Blockchain Research
Greetings fellow crypto traders

It appears the House of Altcoins (altmarket) hasn't
Been promising lately and the pass few months.

Many factors may or may not contribute to the decaying
of the altcoin market. Some seen and some unseen.

Usually and normally im wrong.

What seems to be occuring is...

●Scams by supposedly Dev
● Pump & Dump groups galore
● Tricky & deceitfulness
● Greed @ all time high
● Elaborate & sophisticated Schemes


As of late the Tarnish image of the altmarket
is due in part to the 5 things listed above.

Why coins that are legit or are seeking
Legitimacy prices have dropped tremendously.
(Ex. Blocknet & participating coins)

Jus a few bad actors has done more damage
Than good to help promote and encourage investing
in the altworld.

Has anyone noticed the altscene is quickly
Becoming a place of untrustworthiness and elaborate scams non-stop.

Check the volume of a few exchanges (bittrex, poloniex)  compared to the early part of this year when there were thousands of btc invested.

Some will say because btc price rise
is the reason why altcoins are down.

Alts have been down, long before btc starting
gaining traction again.

P2P360
legendary
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When you were planning development budget of 850 BTC, bitcoin price was lower. On top of that, you have collected more than what you need to develop the BlockNet. Therefore, you should have excess funds that you could use for the buyback and support the price. Why don't you spend 100 BTC or so on the buyback?

Update: BTC funds will be held at the following multisig address in a BitGo wallet: 39mtqLhmPQ8WEpzFCBNHpwPvxFgFPuSDye

That is 364.38012183 BTC ~ 150 thousand USD.

Have you considered to sacrifice (bittrex 7.8 + poloniex 3.6 + bter dust) / total =
only 3% of your immense gains, to stabilize the trading back to ICO prices?

That would immediately stop a lot of complaints.

You believe in your project? Then buy up some of your coins, for cheap.

EDIT: And you probably need less BTC, once the market understands that the trend towards 0 Satioshi is reversed.

A buy wall is actually something we've considered cursorily.

It's not a bad idea -  and neither is it a bad idea for the Foundation to be invested in BLOCK.

We'll let you all know if we decide to do this. It makes a degree of sense.



(Hint: might wanna avoid selling at a loss until we respond to this...)





It won't need 100 BTC. Because a (slow slow slow!) rally upwards just needs to be triggered and supported, and then other market participants will join in. Be clever, think willy bot.

Facts:

13.97 BTC = Poloniex sell orders until 25000
7.0672 BTC = Bittrex sell orders until 25000
~0.2 BTC = Bter sell orders until 25000
----------
21.2 BTC

that is 5.8% of the ICO, last week it was only 3%.

So the buyback has become more expensive now, i.e. more people are loosing trust, plus low buy price allows for gains already below 25000. "The" price is starting to settle around half-ICO. Not what you want.

If you had acted when I suggested it, you would have saved yourself 9.6 BTC, for the same action. Consider to tip me 10% of that, for my good ideas  Grin
[BLOCK] Bn3gKj1BKit8YKr5WrFE6BENtEGhuHcQyk  
BTC 15i31jzNpiUZ1Ni4QTvJsVuZ196Ghv175m

 Cheesy


EDIT: Thx for the small tip, well appreciated. And yes, the sooner this is settled, the earlier this most important change will happen:

Can we get back to BlockNET  Roll Eyes


i think thats true. you should spend it for rise nearly ico price. its 21BTC or 25 BTC. if you dont believe your own coin, why people trust ?
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When you were planning development budget of 850 BTC, bitcoin price was lower. On top of that, you have collected more than what you need to develop the BlockNet. Therefore, you should have excess funds that you could use for the buyback and support the price. Why don't you spend 100 BTC or so on the buyback?

Update: BTC funds will be held at the following multisig address in a BitGo wallet: 39mtqLhmPQ8WEpzFCBNHpwPvxFgFPuSDye

That is 364.38012183 BTC ~ 150 thousand USD.

Have you considered to sacrifice (bittrex 7.8 + poloniex 3.6 + bter dust) / total =
only 3% of your immense gains, to stabilize the trading back to ICO prices?

That would immediately stop a lot of complaints.

You believe in your project? Then buy up some of your coins, for cheap.

EDIT: And you probably need less BTC, once the market understands that the trend towards 0 Satioshi is reversed.

A buy wall is actually something we've considered cursorily.

It's not a bad idea -  and neither is it a bad idea for the Foundation to be invested in BLOCK.

We'll let you all know if we decide to do this. It makes a degree of sense.



(Hint: might wanna avoid selling at a loss until we respond to this...)





It won't need 100 BTC, far from it. Because a (slow slow slow!) rally upwards just needs to be triggered and supported, and then other market participants will join in. Be clever, think willy bot. Or buy all in one go - to avoid in between dumping? I really don't know which way comes out cheaper in the end.

Facts:

13.97 BTC = Poloniex sell orders until 25000
7.0672 BTC = Bittrex sell orders until 25000
~0.2 BTC = Bter sell orders until 25000
----------
21.2 BTC

that is 5.8% of the ICO, last week it was only 3%.

So the buyback has become more expensive now, i.e. more people are loosing trust, plus low buy price allows for gains already below 25000. "The" price is starting to settle around half-ICO. Not what you want.

If you had acted when I suggested it, you would have saved yourself 9.6 BTC, for the same action. Consider to tip me 10% of that, for my good ideas  Grin
[BLOCK] Bn3gKj1BKit8YKr5WrFE6BENtEGhuHcQyk  
BTC 15i31jzNpiUZ1Ni4QTvJsVuZ196Ghv175m

 Cheesy


EDIT: Thx for the small tip, well appreciated. And yes, the sooner this is settled, the earlier this most important change will happen:
Can we get back to BlockNET  Roll Eyes
EDIT2: and the buyback would not be a loss, because the blocknet foundation would own (cheap!) BLOCKcoins in exchange for that.
... and neither is it a bad idea for the Foundation to be invested in BLOCK.
I was really surprised to read that you are not ? ? ?
hero member
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Can we get back to BlockNET  Roll Eyes
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Altcoins are not dying and BTC is not dying either. The only thing dying is the perception that some alt is going to come along and dethrone Bitcoin. Never gonna happen. I do believe alts are the invoation and ground breakers and testing ground for features that could later be adopted by bitcoin. There is room for altcoins to their along side Bitcoin offering niche services that BTC don't offer. Plus it's a lot easier to spend 1 alt than say .005 BTC. Almost like change to paper cash. I think when the alt world starts to come together instead of trying to compete for the same things the world of cryptos will start to flourish.
legendary
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I also think that a buywall could be nice for investors !! Im i the only one who think that altcoins are dying ?:/


I don't for a second think altcoins are dying, they ARE the future I think.  Seems the altcoin world is just WAY too diluted right now, I am sure in the future we will see an end to most altcoins that exist today......but the few strong ones will survive!  WAY too much that crypto can bring to the world to only have one digital currency, but the crypto world is also full of crap and scam projects.
sr. member
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I also think that a buywall could be nice for investors !! Im i the only one who think that altcoins are dying ?:/

Everyone thought BTC was dying a couple weeks ago...something to consider.
legendary
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I also think that a buywall could be nice for investors !! Im i the only one who think that altcoins are dying ?:/
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Meow
Thanks everyone who explained their point of view. I do get it - if I invested in something and it dropped in price, I wouldn't be happy either.

By this argument you would be happy if the price drops to 1 sat so whatever block you are holding would be effectively worthless despite the fact that you paid twice as much for them last week as you would today. Last time I looked, the price of something was supposed to reflect the confidence the market has that you will see that return someday. Concern about the price is a concern about this apparent lack of confidence. Therefore if the team is not concerned about a drop in price then they are not concerned about a lack of confidence in their abilities to deliver. I only hold about 2000 blocks so it's not a big deal to me. But personally I would be worried. And also I would be worried about the fact that any future ITO by them (e.g. the one proposed for XC itself) would almost certainly be unsuccessful. These are all just facts, not really subject to opinion.

Emotionally, I probably wouldn't be happy if the price dropped to 1 satoshi after I paid a lot more for it, but from a purely logical point of view, money spent in the past is irrelevant, and the low price would give me the opportunity to purchase more. Understand it would be different if this was an altcoin, whose value is purely determined by its worth in BTC. An altcoin's BTC value is its entire value, period.

BLOCK seems different because its value can be measured in terms of how many NHZ assets you can trade for 1 BLOCK, which from what I can tell is completely independent from BLOCK's BTC value. NOTE: If I'm wrong here, and the BLOCK/BTC exchange rate determines your BLOCK's NHZ asset buying power, then my entire hypothesis is wrong. Also the price of BLOCK doesn't have any bearing on project development or success, since people are basically just trading ITO receipts at this point; the project is already paid for.

If you are planning to sell BLOCK for BTC, then yes, of course you want its BTC value to increase. But if you want to benefit from the NHZ asset payouts from Blocknet, then the important value is how many NHZ assets you can exchange for 1 BLOCK. From this point of view, my only (rational, selfish) interest in the BTC price is for it to get lower so I can buy more; I'm planning to trade for NHZ assets, not ever to sell it for BTC.

But yes, I do understand the disappointment of BLOCK's BTC price from a purely human point of view, and I also agree that the drop in BLOCK's price could negatively affect the success of any future ITO by the team - that is a really good point.
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so how is the coin going now?

It's more like a blocknet share.
And it's doing what every one could have expected, for the time being it's below the ITO price.
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scams hunter!
so how is the coin going now?
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When you were planning development budget of 850 BTC, bitcoin price was lower. On top of that, you have collected more than what you need to develop the BlockNet. Therefore, you should have excess funds that you could use for the buyback and support the price. Why don't you spend 100 BTC or so on the buyback?

Update: BTC funds will be held at the following multisig address in a BitGo wallet: 39mtqLhmPQ8WEpzFCBNHpwPvxFgFPuSDye

That is 364.38012183 BTC ~ 150 thousand USD.

Have you considered to sacrifice (bittrex 7.8 + poloniex 3.6 + bter dust) / total =
only 3% of your immense gains, to stabilize the trading back to ICO prices?

That would immediately stop a lot of complaints.

You believe in your project? Then buy up some of your coins, for cheap.

EDIT: And you probably need less BTC, once the market understands that the trend towards 0 Satioshi is reversed.

A buy wall is actually something we've considered cursorily.

It's not a bad idea -  and neither is it a bad idea for the Foundation to be invested in BLOCK.

We'll let you all know if we decide to do this. It makes a degree of sense.



(Hint: might wanna avoid selling at a loss until we respond to this...)




Hey Arlyn,

about the buy wall thing, I wouldn't consider putting it above 1/2 of the ITO price. and only with a max of BTC of the difference between the min of 850 and what was actually raised.

After all, this was a sort of crowd funding of the development of some new technology. If someone wants to get out right NOW he/she should not get a full refund. If I fund a project on, let's say, kickstarter.com once the funding is successful, there is no way investors get funding back other than waiting until the product/software is finished and then claiming their tier 'pledge'.

And here we invested in new technology, which will only give investors some revenue once it is fully 'in action'. Reinvesting as a foundation to profit more from uptrends seems reasonable to keep the motivation high. But there is no point of letting investors drop their share without a loss at this point.

Best, Axe
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Hi all

Apologies, but I'm going to delete all this futile bickering about Util.

It's not relevant to the topic, and it's very tedious.

Please try refrain from dragging the conversation into bickering. There's really no point.



Fine by me. Only reason I engaged was to refute his claims that Prom is behind Blocknet and to urge him to keep his util ramblings in its own thread.
legendary
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To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
Hi all

Apologies, but I'm going to delete all this futile bickering about Util.

Reason: it's not relevant to the topic.

(And it's very tedious.)

Please try refrain from dragging the conversation down into bickering. There's really no point.

hero member
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BTC hit the mid November High as noted 2 months ago. Look for a brief pullback into next week, then a renewed push upward into mid December. Volume in the altcoin market has continued to decline. I believe this is due in part to the present rally in BTC, but not the only reason. For many months, the altcoin market has been overrun with scams. As scam coins are increasing, more people are becoming wise to it and moving toward BTC and LTC. If the atlcoin market doesn't correct this image, volume will continue to move away. In regards to alt picks: we picked up some nice moves in DTC, Gaia, XC, and Fuel2. Join us and take the guessing out of your trading decisions.

^news and its happening now , (btc)
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