[ANN][Blocknet] truly decentralized exchange | token ecosystem infrastructure - page 310.

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Quote from: 00Smurf on November 04, 2014, 04:31:49 PM

I don't know who all the cinni investors were, perhaps he should ask them?

I myself lost 25 btc on cinni, when the main dev dropped th ball.

So your saying there is no connection betwen cinni and SDC?

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I don't know who all the cinni investors were, perhaps he should ask them?

I myself lost 25 btc on cinni, when the main dev dropped th ball.

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The more we near the ito end date the price on poloniex goes up, anyone know if these reasons have a relation with eachother?

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Quote from: 00Smurf on November 04, 2014, 04:27:18 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on November 04, 2014, 04:22:22 PM

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Well if you read further, the next convo's we have i clarify what i can and cannot pass onto the sdc team. I was the middleman relaying info to the sdc team as this was when things were being discussed about sdc becoming part of blocknet etc.

Prom's own statement confirms i had to malicious intent. Yet people continue to attack me here.

Aside form that prom started promoting util shortly after anyway. So it's not like he kept it secret long.

Smurf,

isn't true that the same investors who quietly exited cinni after hiring dev's to implement the CINNI EM [and leaving the CINNI community to rot], are the same investors involved with SDC? And used the same cinni EM devs for SDC.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Dan

Are you attacking me dan?

Just answer the man, cause he had to answer a lot of questions the last couple of days

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Quote from: atcsecure on November 04, 2014, 04:22:22 PM

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Well if you read further, the next convo's we have i clarify what i can and cannot pass onto the sdc team. I was the middleman relaying info to the sdc team as this was when things were being discussed about sdc becoming part of blocknet etc.

Prom's own statement confirms i had to malicious intent. Yet people continue to attack me here.

Aside form that prom started promoting util shortly after anyway. So it's not like he kept it secret long.

Smurf,

isn't true that the same investors who quietly exited cinni after hiring dev's to implement the CINNI EM [and leaving the CINNI community to rot], are the same investors involved with SDC? And used the same cinni EM devs for SDC.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Dan

Are you attacking me dan?

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Well if you read further, the next convo's we have i clarify what i can and cannot pass onto the sdc team. I was the middleman relaying info to the sdc team as this was when things were being discussed about sdc becoming part of blocknet etc.

Prom's own statement confirms i had to malicious intent. Yet people continue to attack me here.

Aside form that prom started promoting util shortly after anyway. So it's not like he kept it secret long.

Smurf,

isn't true that the same investors who quietly exited cinni after hiring dev's to implement the CINNI EM [and leaving the CINNI community to rot], are the same investors involved with SDC? And used the same cinni EM devs for SDC.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Dan

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Quote from: jdebunt on November 04, 2014, 03:17:49 PM

Got an official statement by email which I was asked to publish :

http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/chronology-of-the-smear-campaign-against-the-blocknet

Always enjoying your professional articles

Great job

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Quote from: laredo7mm on November 04, 2014, 03:38:33 PM

Quote from: mr_random on November 04, 2014, 03:20:51 PM

Quote from: laredo7mm on November 04, 2014, 02:55:20 PM

Quote from: WhiteNotWright on November 04, 2014, 02:18:22 PM

Yep. I agree. If you traded blocks you take the risk of not getting square in the end. However, if you bought under 25, well done if you can sell off at 25 on the wall. Always in crypto ways to profit in trading, but someone always has to lose. Keep that in mind.

Since Poloniex have been actively trading Block and if the ITO fails to raise the minimum amount of BTC, could they be in a position to lose money?

For example and purely theoretical;

1. Poloniex initially had 350 BTC of Block to sell.
2. They have been actively allowing trading of Block during the ITO.
3. Coingateway users have sent 25 BTC worth of Block to Poloniex to try and arbitrage their 10% discount.
4. All 25 BTC of Coingateway coins have been sold on Poloniex.
5. The refund on Bittrex causes the ITO not to meet the minimum requirements, the ITO is cancelled and all exchanges are refunded their initial amount of BTC.
6. But Poloniex is now sitting on 375 BTC worth of Block instead of their initial 350.
7. Is Poloniex stuck for the 25 BTC?

a) If 25 BTC of Block have been sold that doesn't mean Poloniex holds 25 BTC of block. Poloniex collects trading fee. The Block belongs to whatever market participants bought them.
b) Poloniex isn't stuck anything. Anything they hold which is extra, is profit they made from trading fees in the form of Block.
c) They may have sold these collected fees off on their own market for BTC anyway.

Ahhh, so Poloniex might not get stuck but the people who bought at the lower price may?

Not sure.

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Quote from: jdebunt on November 04, 2014, 03:17:49 PM

Got an official statement by email which I was asked to publish :

http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/chronology-of-the-smear-campaign-against-the-blocknet

Great article!

It's funny, I was just reading through the original chatlogs with a more balanced, less panicked outlook, before you posted this. I had also missed prom's official statement.

I hope blocknet gets at least its minimum funding and things can get to how they were before the attack.

Thanks for posting.

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Quote from: ib88 on November 04, 2014, 03:43:03 PM

Quote from: jdebunt on November 04, 2014, 03:17:49 PM

Got an official statement by email which I was asked to publish :

http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/chronology-of-the-smear-campaign-against-the-blocknet

Wow, that's a very well presented article on this whole debacle. Unbalanced and unbiased and displays both the allegations AND rebuttals. Take note CoinsSource on how to write a proper article.

who write the artical??there is no name
looks like it is somebody from bct and hate prom lol

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Quote from: jdebunt on November 04, 2014, 03:17:49 PM

Got an official statement by email which I was asked to publish :

http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/chronology-of-the-smear-campaign-against-the-blocknet

Wow, that's a very well presented article on this whole debacle. Unbalanced and unbiased and displays both the allegations AND rebuttals. Take note CoinsSource on how to write a proper article.

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Quote from: mr_random on November 04, 2014, 03:20:51 PM

Quote from: laredo7mm on November 04, 2014, 02:55:20 PM

Quote from: WhiteNotWright on November 04, 2014, 02:18:22 PM

Yep. I agree. If you traded blocks you take the risk of not getting square in the end. However, if you bought under 25, well done if you can sell off at 25 on the wall. Always in crypto ways to profit in trading, but someone always has to lose. Keep that in mind.

Since Poloniex have been actively trading Block and if the ITO fails to raise the minimum amount of BTC, could they be in a position to lose money?

For example and purely theoretical;

1. Poloniex initially had 350 BTC of Block to sell.
2. They have been actively allowing trading of Block during the ITO.
3. Coingateway users have sent 25 BTC worth of Block to Poloniex to try and arbitrage their 10% discount.
4. All 25 BTC of Coingateway coins have been sold on Poloniex.
5. The refund on Bittrex causes the ITO not to meet the minimum requirements, the ITO is cancelled and all exchanges are refunded their initial amount of BTC.
6. But Poloniex is now sitting on 375 BTC worth of Block instead of their initial 350.
7. Is Poloniex stuck for the 25 BTC?

a) If 25 BTC of Block have been sold that doesn't mean Poloniex holds 25 BTC of block. Poloniex collects trading fee. The Block belongs to whatever market participants bought them.
b) Poloniex isn't stuck anything. Anything they hold which is extra, is profit they made from trading fees in the form of Block.
c) They may have sold these collected fees off on their own market for BTC anyway.

Ahhh, so Poloniex might not get stuck but the people who bought at the lower price may?

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Quote from: laredo7mm on November 04, 2014, 02:55:20 PM

Quote from: WhiteNotWright on November 04, 2014, 02:18:22 PM

Yep. I agree. If you traded blocks you take the risk of not getting square in the end. However, if you bought under 25, well done if you can sell off at 25 on the wall. Always in crypto ways to profit in trading, but someone always has to lose. Keep that in mind.

Since Poloniex have been actively trading Block and if the ITO fails to raise the minimum amount of BTC, could they be in a position to lose money?

For example and purely theoretical;

1. Poloniex initially had 350 BTC of Block to sell.
2. They have been actively allowing trading of Block during the ITO.
3. Coingateway users have sent 25 BTC worth of Block to Poloniex to try and arbitrage their 10% discount.
4. All 25 BTC of Coingateway coins have been sold on Poloniex.
5. The refund on Bittrex causes the ITO not to meet the minimum requirements, the ITO is cancelled and all exchanges are refunded their initial amount of BTC.
6. But Poloniex is now sitting on 375 BTC worth of Block instead of their initial 350.
7. Is Poloniex stuck for the 25 BTC?

a) If 25 BTC of Block have been sold that doesn't mean Poloniex holds 25 BTC of block. Poloniex collects trading fee. The Block belongs to whatever market participants bought them.
b) Poloniex isn't stuck anything. Anything they hold which is extra, is profit they made from trading fees in the form of Block.
c) They may have sold these collected fees off on their own market for BTC anyway.

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Got an official statement by email which I was asked to publish :

http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/chronology-of-the-smear-campaign-against-the-blocknet

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Quote from: laredo7mm on November 04, 2014, 02:55:20 PM

Quote from: WhiteNotWright on November 04, 2014, 02:18:22 PM

Yep. I agree. If you traded blocks you take the risk of not getting square in the end. However, if you bought under 25, well done if you can sell off at 25 on the wall. Always in crypto ways to profit in trading, but someone always has to lose. Keep that in mind.

Since Poloniex have been actively trading Block and if the ITO fails to raise the minimum amount of BTC, could they be in a position to lose money?

For example and purely theoretical;

1. Poloniex initially had 350 BTC of Block to sell.
2. They have been actively allowing trading of Block during the ITO.
3. Coingateway users have sent 25 BTC worth of Block to Poloniex to try and arbitrage their 10% discount.
4. All 25 BTC of Coingateway coins have been sold on Poloniex.
5. The refund on Bittrex causes the ITO not to meet the minimum requirements, the ITO is cancelled and all exchanges are refunded their initial amount of BTC.
6. But Poloniex is now sitting on 375 BTC worth of Block instead of their initial 350.
7. Is Poloniex stuck for the 25 BTC?

Yes they do, perfect situation:)
And yes I sell my coins against the wall @ Bittrex.

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Quote from: 4theLOVEofCrypto on November 04, 2014, 12:54:46 PM

Quote from: synechist on November 04, 2014, 12:43:20 PM

Quote from: demgains on November 04, 2014, 12:40:59 PM

Quote from: hoertest on November 04, 2014, 12:39:06 PM

i know the team needs to be prepared but the rest should just think positiv .

Arlyn when will the xc thread be up again. guess you wanna restart with some news.

I think it is safe to reopen the BTC talk thread again. The fud storm is over.

We'll be doing this at some point. I'm also considering a separate thread just for announcements, so that they can all be on one easily accessible place instead of getting drowned out.

I like this idea. Update the announcements and basically lock it so it can't be swamped with a bunch of useless posts.

Right. Announcements only thread (in addition to the open discussion thread) = Very good idea.
It makes a pain in the a*s to dig through 10-20 pages of bla-bla-bla, just to find 1 or 2 important anouncements, once you been away a few days from a routine internet use.

Make it happen!

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Quote from: WhiteNotWright on November 04, 2014, 02:18:22 PM

Yep. I agree. If you traded blocks you take the risk of not getting square in the end. However, if you bought under 25, well done if you can sell off at 25 on the wall. Always in crypto ways to profit in trading, but someone always has to lose. Keep that in mind.

Since Poloniex have been actively trading Block and if the ITO fails to raise the minimum amount of BTC, could they be in a position to lose money?

For example and purely theoretical;

1. Poloniex initially had 350 BTC of Block to sell.
2. They have been actively allowing trading of Block during the ITO.
3. Coingateway users have sent 25 BTC worth of Block to Poloniex to try and arbitrage their 10% discount.
4. All 25 BTC of Coingateway coins have been sold on Poloniex.
5. The refund on Bittrex causes the ITO not to meet the minimum requirements, the ITO is cancelled and all exchanges are refunded their initial amount of BTC.
6. But Poloniex is now sitting on 375 BTC worth of Block instead of their initial 350.
7. Is Poloniex stuck for the 25 BTC?

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Quote from: mr_random on November 04, 2014, 02:41:39 PM

So should I buy into Blocknet or not?

Holders/believers, give me your most convincing argument.

Pros: Dan has always delivered with his past tech promises, only one other project like this and it is valued much higher (supernet)

Cons: The manipulative FUD seems endless and has damaged the reputation of the project before it's begun, Tokens are unlikely to receive decent fees for considerable time

Trying to decide.

Just because most of the posts here were posted by ppl who would want to see this project fail doesn't mean that the majority of the investors or people reading here feel the same way.
Most ppl just don't want to get involved in the FUD imo.
I invested because i wanted to and no FUD will make me change my mind.

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Quote from: mxxxxxx on November 04, 2014, 01:53:31 AM

Quote from: je_sus on November 03, 2014, 09:22:58 PM

Quote from: MFAninja on November 03, 2014, 05:56:00 PM

My blocknet wallet will not sync past 82% anyone else having this problem? If so can you point me in a direction to help?

Yes I had this issue. Essentially it was a bad chain.

Backed up my wallet.dat file, and the full folder.

Reinstall the QT again then move your wallet back.

Worked fine for me after that.

Yes mostly always helps after system crash or some file system errors , good to have your wallet backed up on daily basis too

Apologies; I used the wrong quote. Above is what I was referring to. thanks

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Quote from: mr_random on November 04, 2014, 02:41:39 PM

So should I buy into Blocknet or not?

Holders/believers, give me your most convincing argument.

Pros: Dan has always delivered with his past tech promises, only one other project like this and it is valued much higher (supernet)

Cons: The manipulative FUD seems endless and has damaged the reputation of the project before it's begun, Tokens are unlikely to receive decent fees for considerable time

Trying to decide.

Nine months is a long time in crypto.

If I was a buyer I'd wait till xc was open sourced to get an idea of code quality. Based on supernet I'm sure the price will be less than the ico at some point.

Just my 02

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