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Quote from: DotNetApp on December 01, 2017, 02:47:24 PM

Quote from: vlom on December 01, 2017, 02:15:48 PM

Quote from: Knepala on November 30, 2017, 04:13:16 PM

The fact that Lauda has a working wallet Beta is reassuring. Wish this information had come out sooner, it might have calmed down some people.

this is a working wallet? well, why don't they release a test wallet to the public?

easy to say , when even of 1 user the cryptos are locked or lost or only with dev help accessible than the project will get shitstorm of dead .

i would like to risk some coins to be able to see that there is really something and not just pictures and videos.

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Quote from: vlom on December 01, 2017, 02:15:48 PM

Quote from: Knepala on November 30, 2017, 04:13:16 PM

The fact that Lauda has a working wallet Beta is reassuring. Wish this information had come out sooner, it might have calmed down some people.

this is a working wallet? well, why don't they release a test wallet to the public?

easy to say , when even of 1 user the cryptos are locked or lost or only with dev help accessible than the project will get shitstorm of dead .

vlom

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Quote from: Knepala on November 30, 2017, 04:13:16 PM

The fact that Lauda has a working wallet Beta is reassuring. Wish this information had come out sooner, it might have calmed down some people.

this is a working wallet? well, why don't they release a test wallet to the public?

BTCMILLIONAIRE

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Quote from: Sachakl on November 30, 2017, 05:25:49 PM

Quote from: Knepala on November 30, 2017, 04:13:16 PM

The fact that Lauda has a working wallet Beta is reassuring. Wish this information had come out sooner, it might have calmed down some people.

Indeed! It's time for the team to hire a PR manager, like Lauda suggested, to avoid further FUD.

While I would appreciate a PR manager, I don't really care anymore. The fact that Lauda has a working wallet is good enough for me considering all the facts.

The money is escrowed and the devs are perfectionists. In other words, there is literally nothing left to worry about when it comes to the credibility of NVO.

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Quote from: Knepala on November 30, 2017, 04:13:16 PM

The fact that Lauda has a working wallet Beta is reassuring. Wish this information had come out sooner, it might have calmed down some people.

Indeed! It's time for the team to hire a PR manager, like Lauda suggested, to avoid further FUD.

Knepala

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The fact that Lauda has a working wallet Beta is reassuring. Wish this information had come out sooner, it might have calmed down some people.

thesavoyard

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I kept seeing posts about buying on the website, but I see nothing there. Can someone send a link? I'm not a big fan of counterparty but I will buy there if I have to.

Lauda

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Quote from: F3arl3ss on November 30, 2017, 10:38:12 AM

If this is the case, then investors really don't have much to worry about.

Of course that is the case. They don't get the % of the money that is covered by a milestone that they did not achieve. In case of total failure, a refund process will take place for an X amount of time after which all remaining funds will be void. However, I am 99% certain that this will not be the case.

Quote from: PrisonerOfLies on November 30, 2017, 02:42:16 PM

I want my ETHs back, how can I get back 70% of it?

There is no refund clause, so you can not get a refund unless everyone is getting a refund. Nobody is getting a refund unless the project is completely stopped / doesn't deliver.

Quote from: PrisonerOfLies on November 30, 2017, 02:42:16 PM

I no longer want to invest as they deviate significantly from the whitepaper.

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Quote from: F3arl3ss on November 30, 2017, 10:38:12 AM

Quote from: Lauda on November 30, 2017, 07:05:04 AM

Quote from: kamar on November 30, 2017, 06:41:46 AM

if not, then where to go 70% of all our investments?

Yes. What do you think was going to happen with the remainder if they didn't deliver?

If this is the case, then investors really don't have much to worry about. Actually the more surprising this is why the price is so low. If the devs cannot deliver on their promises and the initial investments are returned, the prices are severely undervalued... Although I will say most of crypto is in a free-fall, so maybe NVO/XCP are just along for the ride. I know there are plenty of bugs involved in developing software, let's just hope that the team can integrate the wallet with the DEX somewhat seamlessly. That would be significantly more important than dropping a wallet now.

I want my ETHs back, how can I get back 70% of it? I no longer want to invest as they deviate significantly from the whitepaper.

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Quote from: F3arl3ss on November 30, 2017, 10:38:12 AM

Actually the more surprising this is why the price is so low. If the devs cannot deliver on their promises and the initial investments are returned, the prices are severely undervalued...

Shush, you. Easy pickings right now. Don't ruin it for everyone

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Quote from: Lauda on November 30, 2017, 07:05:04 AM

Quote from: kamar on November 30, 2017, 06:41:46 AM

if not, then where to go 70% of all our investments?

Yes. What do you think was going to happen with the remainder if they didn't deliver?

If this is the case, then investors really don't have much to worry about. Actually the more surprising this is why the price is so low. If the devs cannot deliver on their promises and the initial investments are returned, the prices are severely undervalued... Although I will say most of crypto is in a free-fall, so maybe NVO/XCP are just along for the ride. I know there are plenty of bugs involved in developing software, let's just hope that the team can integrate the wallet with the DEX somewhat seamlessly. That would be significantly more important than dropping a wallet now.

kamar

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Quote from: Lauda on November 30, 2017, 08:43:37 AM

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Sorry but a simple screenshot or a even a video is not a proof of work.

In this case it is (or in the context that you're describing) Even if you used Photoshop to create a screenshot, it literally is proof of *some* work (proof of work in Photoshop that is). In my case: I registered to the wallet, logged in, set up a pin and took a screenshot from the main page/dashboard.

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Any developer could also create a dummy good looking wallet in 1 or 2 days...

Disagreed. This has actual functionality, therefore it's not an empty GUI.

if you have access to a wallet and say that this is not just a picture but a functioning wallet, then I think a good proof of his existence and work could be a video where you make a micropayment from it to any address that we could then see in a common network for example ethereum or bitcoin

Lauda

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Quote from: ?? on ??

If you see that devs are very stressed, why don't you suggest them to announce that they need like 1-2 more months, they could even just release the wallet the same time as the exchange, if they think they can still deliver it on Q1.

I have suggested this already, take a look at my last post here (I've mentioned it again). I've suggested that they hire a community manager/PR staff member to handle this.

Quote from: ?? on ??

I would like to believe you, that you have the code and all, but without precise and proper communication from devs, we could imagine anything about what actually happens (including the fact that you help them to scam us).

I'm an independent escrow from CET, who is keeping the majority of the funds along with two other people. Speculating that I'm going to collude with some other people is ridiculous given my history of fighting scammers & other scum around here. Worst case (as of now): Project completely fails and you lose 20-30% of your investment. I don't think that this is going to be that case. I am more concerned regarding the DEX itself, as coding that will be significantly harder than coding the wallet.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Sorry but a simple screenshot or a even a video is not a proof of work.

In this case it is (or in the context that you're describing) Even if you used Photoshop to create a screenshot, it literally is proof of *some* work (proof of work in Photoshop that is). In my case: I registered to the wallet, logged in, set up a pin and took a screenshot from the main page/dashboard.

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Any developer could also create a dummy good looking wallet in 1 or 2 days...

Disagreed. This has actual functionality, therefore it's not an empty GUI.

Quote from: ?? on ??

Delay is not justified. Ubuntu always meet their deadlines: they said 17.10 would be out on October 19 2017, and it was out this date.
Windows 7 as announced for October 22 2009, and it was out this date. Same for Windows 10.

That is no argument and is called the cherry picking fallacy. Plenty of projects and big studios miss deadlines. Bitcoin Core often misses their initial estimates as well.

Quote from: ?? on ??

And these are OSes, things way more complex than a simple wallet (ok, with greater teams too, but don't forget that NVO team also had a few millions to spare even with just 30% of crowdsale).

NVO does not have access to the amount of money that you think they do. I'm not sure about the exact percentage now, but I believe it was under 20% out of which a big part may have been used up before the price spike.

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NVO wallet was annouced for November 1, but still continuously delayed.

Estimated release.

Quote from: ?? on ??

But well, if you the escrow says that everything is ok I guess that we just have to wait and see...

"Everything is ok" is not what I had. Both the code and the software is there. I'm just dispelling the #FUD that there is no code/wallet and that the team is gone.

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Quote from: kamar on November 30, 2017, 06:34:22 AM

Ton also said on the slack that no longer appear in the slack channel until the release of the purse, that is, never

You mean this wallet?

Yes, that is a screenshot that was taken by me about 10 minutes ago. Stop rushing the developers otherwise you will end up with a lot of bugs (take a look at pretty much any Ethereum wallet and the recent Parity hack). It will be released when people are confident that your funds will be safe.

Quote from: kamar on November 30, 2017, 06:41:46 AM

if not, then where to go 70% of all our investments?

Yes. What do you think was going to happen with the remainder if they didn't deliver?

Quote from: kamar on November 30, 2017, 06:41:46 AM

if yes, when the deadline, after which it can be assumed that the developers did not cope with the development of the DEX?

We have not specified one yet, but it's way too soon to push for strict deadlines. (proper) Software development takes time.

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Quote from: Lauda on November 30, 2017, 06:29:46 AM

Quote from: bacthuan on November 30, 2017, 06:18:14 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Devs, if not wallet then it's time to admit your failure and tell the escrows to refund investors now according to either current holdings or invested amount
Would not be surprised if nvo.io suddenly shuts down

I think they had already disappeared. They actually scammers, cheated all of us.

Posting blatant lies is not acceptable in this forum. Nobody has disappeared and regardless they can't be scammers in any way or form even if they abandoned the project. The release milestones were there for a reason. The maximum that you were knowingly risking was/is 30% (as per the first milestone).

that is, if the developers can not create a wallet and exchanger, you will return us 70% of our investments as the holder of escrow?

if not, then where to go 70% of all our investments?

if yes, when the deadline, after which it can be assumed that the developers did not cope with the development of the DEX?

kamar

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Quote from: migello on November 29, 2017, 06:07:15 PM

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Anyone has any news from Nemgun?
He did not come in this topic since a very long time, and not even in the Xenio topic since weeks
He was very active here before...

Quote from: nemgun on November 09, 2017, 06:45:06 PM

don't forget to say happy birthday to Yani, once i finish the nvo release, i will be back.

that is, never came back because never make the wallet and DEX

they were able to attract investors by using tales of proxy tokens that would return dividends to owners from fees from trade
people saw in them a very good passive income due to the growing market of crypto currency

Ton also said on the slack that no longer appear in the slack channel until the release of the purse, that is, never

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Quote from: bacthuan on November 30, 2017, 06:18:14 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Devs, if not wallet then it's time to admit your failure and tell the escrows to refund investors now according to either current holdings or invested amount
Would not be surprised if nvo.io suddenly shuts down

I think they had already disappeared. They actually scammers, cheated all of us.

Posting blatant lies is not acceptable in this forum. Nobody has disappeared and regardless they can't be scammers in any way or form even if they abandoned the project. The release milestones were there for a reason. The maximum that you were knowingly risking was/is 30% (as per the first milestone).

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Devs, if not wallet then it's time to admit your failure and tell the escrows to refund investors now according to either current holdings or invested amount
Would not be surprised if nvo.io suddenly shuts down

I think they had already disappeared. They actually scammers, cheated all of us.

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NVO is alive, great time for holders to stack up at this price. naysayers and weak hands will get F&'%$ as always. Grin

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