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I find it very weird that the ICO gathered so much interest, and now all of a sudden people don't want to buy BTCD at this extreme discount to get KMD? What's going on?

Frankly I think people are out of funds. Also many of the recent ICOs have stalled hard and people can't get money out of them due to lack of exchanges listings or below ICO level valuation.
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I find it very weird that the ICO gathered so much interest, and now all of a sudden people don't want to buy BTCD at this extreme discount to get KMD? What's going on?
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I'm super jazzed about this project, so please don't take my question as criticism, but genuine curiosity. What you describe is KMD acting as a passthrough coin to secure the privacy of other coins, like BTC. I understand it can also be used directly, but if it does have a big role as a passthrough what gives the coin value in the long term. Will KMD act as fuel or be consumed for doing things in the larger ecosystem?

You will need to buy/hold KMD in many cases, like
 - BTC private payment
 - dPoW protection
 - PAX fiat assets

All those create demand for KMD. Of course it can be used as money too. When we offer these services / apps many people will find KMD, and likely they will buy & hold some.

We are building a development framework / platform for blockchain applications. Those could / will use KMD to gain certain functionality, like a built in privacy features. For example, we are planning to develop a 'payroll' app that would allow international businesses pay their employees in fiat.

Like many things, also this Payroll app would require KMD. The idea is that the business could pay in BTC, and behind the scenes it would be turned into PAX fiat (BTC -> KMD -> PAX fiat). This creates demand for KMD, but it is also possible that at some point the business would start using KMD instead of BTC (to remove one extra hop).

At the very least, it is a lot cheaper to send private KMD transactions than it would to send private BTC transactions. While making a private BTC transaction there are many fees to pay & coin conversions to do.

These plans are not for the immediate future however. Our first priority is to get the EasyDEX & PAX1 online, then we move to InstantDEX & PAX2, and other things like Pangea, Jumblr, and Payroll app.

One of the least understood things however is how PAX works. It could end up being the number one driver for KMD price. Let me explain.

If you want to convert your money to any PAX fiat you will have to first buy KMD and then lock that KMD inside PAX. In other words, the more used the PAX fiats are, the more wealth will be locked inside PAX.
 -> less supply
 -> more demand

However, don't get too excited as the initial PAX1 version will have some limits placed on it. With PAX2 we can remove those limitations as well as allow some advanced features such as shorting. PAX2 will effectively create a decentralized forex market.

With PAX1 we will have 40k exposure limit for the first 10 fiats, and 10k limit for the other 22 fiats. That means that, for example, the paxUSD is capped at $40,000 market cap.

Here were the main points I could think of right now.

If anyone wants to help KMD price, maybe they could join our Slack and start developing some other killer app with the help of our platform Smiley

A most excellent and complete answer. Thanks for the insight. What I really appreciate about this project, from the very start, is that there has been thorough and extensive thinking about how things will work and there has been transparency in presenting this information. Glad to be onboard.
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I'm super jazzed about this project, so please don't take my question as criticism, but genuine curiosity. What you describe is KMD acting as a passthrough coin to secure the privacy of other coins, like BTC. I understand it can also be used directly, but if it does have a big role as a passthrough what gives the coin value in the long term. Will KMD act as fuel or be consumed for doing things in the larger ecosystem?

You will need to buy/hold KMD in many cases, like
 - BTC private payment
 - dPoW protection
 - PAX fiat assets

All those create demand for KMD. Of course it can be used as money too. When we offer these services / apps many people will find KMD, and likely they will buy & hold some.

We are building a development framework / platform for blockchain applications. Those could / will use KMD to gain certain functionality, like a built in privacy features. For example, we are planning to develop a 'payroll' app that would allow international businesses pay their employees in fiat.

Like many things, also this Payroll app would require KMD. The idea is that the business could pay in BTC, and behind the scenes it would be turned into PAX fiat (BTC -> KMD -> PAX fiat). This creates demand for KMD, but it is also possible that at some point the business would start using KMD instead of BTC (to remove one extra hop).

At the very least, it is a lot cheaper to send private KMD transactions than it would to send private BTC transactions. While making a private BTC transaction there are many fees to pay & coin conversions to do.

These plans are not for the immediate future however. Our first priority is to get the EasyDEX & PAX1 online, then we move to InstantDEX & PAX2, and other things like Pangea, Jumblr, and Payroll app.

One of the least understood things however is how PAX works. It could end up being the number one driver for KMD price. Let me explain.

If you want to convert your money to any PAX fiat you will have to first buy KMD and then lock that KMD inside PAX. In other words, the more used the PAX fiats are, the more wealth will be locked inside PAX.
 -> less supply
 -> more demand

However, don't get too excited as the initial PAX1 version will have some limits placed on it. With PAX2 we can remove those limitations as well as allow some advanced features such as shorting. PAX2 will effectively create a decentralized forex market.

With PAX1 we will have 40k exposure limit for the first 10 fiats, and 10k limit for the other 22 fiats. That means that, for example, the paxUSD is capped at $40,000 market cap.

Here were the main points I could think of right now.

If anyone wants to help KMD price, maybe they could join our Slack and start developing some other killer app with the help of our platform Smiley
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There was a question in the BTCD thread, so I though I should post it here also as there might be new info to some!


Can you tell me more about the new Komodo technology

Sure!

I'll explain the privacy side, which should be the most interesting part for BTCD investors.

We concluded that Zcash's privacy technology is superior to any other solution, even to our own (teleport/telepathy technology). As we needed the best technology for our platform we decided to fork Zcash. However, making a fork is not really that exciting, but rather the way we use the technology in our own platform.

Privacy for other cryptocurrencies
We can make bitcoin (or any other coin) private transactions a reality. However, doing that requires the other technologies SuperNET has been building, mainly Iguana. In short, Iguana allows blockchains to talk to each other which allowed us to develop an atomic cross-chain protocol (see our whitepaper).

We can destroy bitcoin's transaction track record the following way:
BTC -> KMD -> KMD Z-Tx -> BTC

The whole process will be automaticed:
1. BTC is exchanged to KMD through our decentralized exchange
2. The KMD is sent to a new KMD address through a Z-transaction (the anonymous transaction)
3. KMD is exchanged back to BTC

Any user could manually do that, however we can make it automatic through an app called Jumblr. Thus a user could simply use our BTC wallet which could have a "Private payment" button. The end user would only have to insert the BTC address where he wants to send his bitcoins to, and then the the whole process would happen behind the scenes.

Anonymous fiat transactions
We also have a thing called 'assetchains', which basically allow anyone to create new Zcash forks in seconds. Those forks are compatible to our other services, such as DEX. We have already created 32 special coins, which we developed a bit further. These are called PAX fiat assets, and their value is tied to local currencies (USD, EUR,...).

Because they are Zcash forks we can actually do the same anonymous transactions with them. We believe our way to tie the coin to fiat value is superior to the other current solutions. The anonymous transactions are really a cherry on the top. Of course these too are compatible to our other services, so you could store them in the same place you store your BTC (our Iguana wallet).

More info
I recommend to start with these three articles:
Where Hope Lies for Privacy, Anonymity, and Fungibility in Cryptocurrency
Komodo’s dPoW Provides Double-Layered Security and Cuts Costs
Komodo: the Native Currency of the SuperNET Ecosystem


Thanks for the question! Smiley



I'm super jazzed about this project, so please don't take my question as criticism, but genuine curiosity. What you describe is KMD acting as a passthrough coin to secure the privacy of other coins, like BTC. I understand it can also be used directly, but if it does have a big role as a passthrough what gives the coin value in the long term. Will KMD act as fuel or be consumed for doing things in the larger ecosystem?
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Since it's almost time to vote for the notary nodes operators. I though I will present my self too. Here we go!  Smiley

My name is Peter Farla and I live in the Netherlands. Since 2013 I am involved in blockchain tech. I have been mining LTC and altcoins in the first year. After that I joined Nxt and also Supernet. I am an active member in the Nxt/Ardor community, I am global moderator on Nxtforum.org and running Nxt.org. Regarding running nodes, I have been running almost a dozen Nxt nodes for years.

People may know me by the nickname farl4web/farl4bit or from the FARLAWEB Assets which I launched on Nxt Asset Exchange.

Trust your Node Operator
I am not an anonymous person, I have a face and a name. It’s important to know who is running Notary Nodes. You can trust me to run the Notary Nodes. Trust is an important factor in crypto-world and especially in being a Komodo Notary Node Operator.

100% Online and up-to-date
One of the most important factors of Notary Nodes is that they are always online and up-to-date. My nodes have almost 100% uptime (check Komodometrics.com) and I am on the Slack-channels available for updates. I have been active in the testnet for 2 months now, helping and testing Komodo.

Backup Operators
Continuity of the Notary Nodes is important for the Komodo Network. In case something happens to me or I am not available for urgent updates, I assigned a backup operator for each of my nodes. For my farl4web_EU Node I have Baddass as backup operator and for my farl4web_SH Node I have Pondsea as backup operator.
My goal is to support the Komodo network.

I hope you will support me.  Grin

https://www.komodoelection.com/candidates/farl4bit/
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Set Your Ideas Free
There was a question in the BTCD thread, so I though I should post it here also as there might be new info to some!


Can you tell me more about the new Komodo technology

Sure!

I'll explain the privacy side, which should be the most interesting part for BTCD investors.

We concluded that Zcash's privacy technology is superior to any other solution, even to our own (teleport/telepathy technology). As we needed the best technology for our platform we decided to fork Zcash. However, making a fork is not really that exciting, but rather the way we use the technology in our own platform.

Privacy for other cryptocurrencies
We can make bitcoin (or any other coin) private transactions a reality. However, doing that requires the other technologies SuperNET has been building, mainly Iguana. In short, Iguana allows blockchains to talk to each other which allowed us to develop an atomic cross-chain protocol (see our whitepaper).

We can destroy bitcoin's transaction track record the following way:
BTC -> KMD -> KMD Z-Tx -> BTC

The whole process will be automaticed:
1. BTC is exchanged to KMD through our decentralized exchange
2. The KMD is sent to a new KMD address through a Z-transaction (the anonymous transaction)
3. KMD is exchanged back to BTC

Any user could manually do that, however we can make it automatic through an app called Jumblr. Thus a user could simply use our BTC wallet which could have a "Private payment" button. The end user would only have to insert the BTC address where he wants to send his bitcoins to, and then the the whole process would happen behind the scenes.

Anonymous fiat transactions
We also have a thing called 'assetchains', which basically allow anyone to create new Zcash forks in seconds. Those forks are compatible to our other services, such as DEX. We have already created 32 special coins, which we developed a bit further. These are called PAX fiat assets, and their value is tied to local currencies (USD, EUR,...).

Because they are Zcash forks we can actually do the same anonymous transactions with them. We believe our way to tie the coin to fiat value is superior to the other current solutions. The anonymous transactions are really a cherry on the top. Of course these too are compatible to our other services, so you could store them in the same place you store your BTC (our Iguana wallet).

More info
I recommend to start with these three articles:
Where Hope Lies for Privacy, Anonymity, and Fungibility in Cryptocurrency
Komodo’s dPoW Provides Double-Layered Security and Cuts Costs
Komodo: the Native Currency of the SuperNET Ecosystem


Thanks for the question! Smiley


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No one from Pakistan? how to join?

It's not possible until next election. There was a deadline to announce candidacy some time ago.

The candidates listed there are final.

Best regards
legendary
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Sorry, you are too late to join. The deadline was a few weeks ago. Next year you can join the second election. Don't know the date for that.
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Notary Node Candidates 2016

The elections are just around the corner. Here's a summary of all the candidates in each region.






We will have a complete guide ready when the election time comes.
No one from Pakistan? how to join?
legendary
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To be honest I got 0.777 invested in this and Im quite worried right now because there is really no sign on to when I could get this coin or atleast a fixed ETA of the launched. I wonder why people could stay calm though, not trying to FUD and this is really just my 2 cents

I have ten times what you do and I'm calm. Think "trust", these folks are well known and there tech and reputations are excellent. Also think "patience", you will need to remain calm. Some changes to accommodate accepting bTCD on the Komodo ICO platform are a big part of the current delay, relax.


You can also join the channels on Slack and you will see a lot of stuff is going on behind the scenes. This is new tech, so it takes some time to make it safe and stable. This is not a scam, trust me.

http://slackinvite.supernet.org
legendary
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When KOMODO finally released, I think SuperNET (UNITY) will rise, too.  Roll Eyes

Especially once we will be able to price it in Btc or Usd rather than in Nxt



People can arb against NXT and BTC pair thus you will see people buying say on NXT AE then send assets to POLO to sell. Once the assets are off NXT, there is no way to make this free money!
hero member
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I know, but there are many other SN related assets and after Iguana release more people will understand what they're about and the exchange will be decentralized  Wink

rnr
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When KOMODO finally released, I think SuperNET (UNITY) will rise, too.  Roll Eyes

Especially once we will be able to price it in Btc or Usd rather than in Nxt

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When KOMODO finally released, I think SuperNET (UNITY) will rise, too.  Roll Eyes

Especially once we will be able to price it in Btc or Usd rather than in Nxt
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When KOMODO finally released, I think SuperNET (UNITY) will rise, too.  Roll Eyes
legendary
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Byteball is a pretty impressive blockchain too. It will give some extra free funds for Komodo. I like the tangle which Byteball is using (same idea like IOTA), it's light, free and fast.
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To be honest I got 0.777 invested in this and Im quite worried right now because there is really no sign on to when I could get this coin or atleast a fixed ETA of the launched. I wonder why people could stay calm though, not trying to FUD and this is really just my 2 cents

I have ten times what you do and I'm calm. Think "trust", these folks are well known and there tech and reputations are excellent. Also think "patience", you will need to remain calm. Some changes to accommodate accepting bTCD on the Komodo ICO platform are a big part of the current delay, relax.

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agree, we just wait next info from dev
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