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Maverick69

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Quote from: ShiftTeam on February 16, 2016, 03:17:04 PM

Quote from: tx42 on February 16, 2016, 12:19:26 PM

Quote from: Maverick69 on February 16, 2016, 10:02:34 AM

Quote from: ShiftTeam on February 16, 2016, 01:38:17 AM

Website is 95% done already.

Would you mind donate us what has already been done? I would understand if you're against it, but you also said you were ready to help, so...

What Maverick69 is saying is that he would like access to the website materials that the original developer has in hand, so that Maverick69 can create the website at a new URL.

Well you "took over" by creating a new thread without any hesitation not talking with any other former team members. You do not understand the 100s of hours put into this. So, you are on your own. You will have a block explorer and a website soon enough, just as we did (except the 95% done website).

Allthough, it will be interesting to see how it goes, maybe i can be proud of SHF after a while. After all i started it. Ii planned to come back and develop when i felt better. Good luck.

In its core (golang) its more developed than EXP, so you have a head start there.

It's ok, however, I'm wondering if you really want to help this coin, or if you're filled of bitterness, which is never good for the health.
I offered you my help in private before the takeover, so that you can focus on development and only that. You never replied. Where was that supposed to go? Look, I have a domain name, and a host now. I was also keen on making a block explorer (although I admit I have no experience in that, so it could have taken some time). Someone else will do it, and that's great. Good will gives energy!
Too bad it ends up like this...

m4nki

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Quote from: ShiftTeam on February 16, 2016, 03:17:04 PM

Quote from: tx42 on February 16, 2016, 12:19:26 PM

Quote from: Maverick69 on February 16, 2016, 10:02:34 AM

Quote from: ShiftTeam on February 16, 2016, 01:38:17 AM

Website is 95% done already.

Would you mind donate us what has already been done? I would understand if you're against it, but you also said you were ready to help, so...

What Maverick69 is saying is that he would like access to the website materials that the original developer has in hand, so that Maverick69 can create the website at a new URL.

Well you "took over" by creating a new thread without any hesitation not talking with any other former team members. You do not understand the 100s of hours put into this. So, you are on your own. You will have a block explorer and a website soon enough, just as we did (except the 95% done website).

Allthough, it will be interesting to see how it goes, maybe i can be proud of SHF after a while. After all i started it. Ii planned to come back and develop when i felt better. Good luck.

In its core (golang) its more developed than EXP, so you have a head start there.

I can feel you! Thank you so much for all the work you have done, just in forking Ethereum. As you pointed out, it is not an easy task, otherwise there would be much more than just three clones in the world (SHIFT being the first).

And what the fuck? SHIFT is golang in it's core language?.
Whoever doesnt know, Google developed Golang (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(programming_language). As I am not a coder, I cannot judge it's code base, but looking at it's parents, this might be very valuable.

Time will show, but I could imagine that Google then might find some serious interest in usage for SHIFT.

Maybe they have never even heard of SHIFT.

Anyways, good job on the start!

Quote from: Teka on February 16, 2016, 04:08:46 PM

Ugh...the constant drama at Bitcointalk is the reason why I keep leaving this place. I've comeback to say that founder of shift is not a scammer, he tried his best and all it came down to was the low value of shift and the fact that the dev was not wealthy enough to support all of the burden of this coin from his own funds. The block explorer took a substantial portion of the premine, in terms of the monthly payment and the total cockup with altsheets.

In terms of the website, I will not be releasing anything without approval from the founder as thats who paid me. I wouldn't say the website is 95% done and if I do get approval to realase it, I will probably fix it. I never finished it as I already cut my rates by more than half to help the dev out (FYI, he did not ask me to do this) and then his medical situation made it seem unlikely that the coin will make a comeback soon.

I'm also pretty much out of all crypto, except for Bitcoin and two other major holdings.

This is what I believe, too. Thanks for putting this in words. People do go broke sometimes. We are not in wonderland. In real life, every 9 out of 10 startups fail. The only thing to do is take the experience and learn from it, instead of flaming the throat out.

Teka

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Ugh...the constant drama at Bitcointalk is the reason why I keep leaving this place. I've comeback to say that founder of shift is not a scammer, he tried his best and all it came down to was the low value of shift and the fact that the dev was not wealthy enough to support all of the burden of this coin from his own funds. The block explorer took a substantial portion of the premine, in terms of the monthly payment and the total cockup with altsheets.

In terms of the website, I will not be releasing anything without approval from the founder as thats who paid me. I wouldn't say the website is 95% done and if I do get approval to realase it, I will probably fix it. I never finished it as I already cut my rates by more than half to help the dev out (FYI, he did not ask me to do this) and then his medical situation made it seem unlikely that the coin will make a comeback soon.

I'm also pretty much out of all crypto, except for Bitcoin and two other major holdings.

ShiftTeam

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The Shift Team

Quote from: tx42 on February 16, 2016, 12:19:26 PM

Quote from: Maverick69 on February 16, 2016, 10:02:34 AM

Quote from: ShiftTeam on February 16, 2016, 01:38:17 AM

Website is 95% done already.

Would you mind donate us what has already been done? I would understand if you're against it, but you also said you were ready to help, so...

What Maverick69 is saying is that he would like access to the website materials that the original developer has in hand, so that Maverick69 can create the website at a new URL.

Well you "took over" by creating a new thread without any hesitation not talking with any other former team members. You do not understand the 100s of hours put into this. So, you are on your own. You will have a block explorer and a website soon enough, just as we did (except the 95% done website).

Allthough, it will be interesting to see how it goes, maybe i can be proud of SHF after a while. After all i started it. Ii planned to come back and develop when i felt better. Good luck.

In its core (golang) its more developed than EXP, so you have a head start there.

Denis1805

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Quote from: tx42 on February 16, 2016, 12:16:53 PM

https://i.imgur.com/KvRgeFR.png

I set up a shift slack at https://shiftnrg.slack.com/

Please PM me with an email address and I will send you an invite.

I encourage everyone to migrate to the takeover thread.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-shift-shf-takeover-thread-1364925

you can deport invitation me [email protected]

tx42

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Quote from: Maverick69 on February 16, 2016, 10:02:34 AM

Quote from: ShiftTeam on February 16, 2016, 01:38:17 AM

Website is 95% done already.

Would you mind donate us what has already been done? I would understand if you're against it, but you also said you were ready to help, so...

What Maverick69 is saying is that he would like access to the website materials that the original developer has in hand, so that Maverick69 can create the website at a new URL.

tx42

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I set up a shift slack at https://shiftnrg.slack.com/

Please PM me with an email address and I will send you an invite.

I encourage everyone to migrate to the takeover thread.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-shift-shf-takeover-thread-1364925

Maverick69

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Activity: 458

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Quote from: ShiftTeam on February 16, 2016, 01:38:17 AM

Website is 95% done already.

Would you mind donate us what has already been done? I would understand if you're against it, but you also said you were ready to help, so...

losk22

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Dear DEV! Please do not waste your energy on arguments with windbag! It is better to join forces with people interested in the development of the coin.

ShiftTeam

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The Shift Team

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Quote from: ShiftTeam on February 15, 2016, 05:09:59 AM

Quote from: compmaster on February 15, 2016, 02:41:36 AM

Hey, SHIFT is back. Any more developments coming? This is a good coin. It would be nice to get a blockexplorer up. Paying someone per month was stupid. You should have bought the blockexplorer code or used an open source one.

We actually tried that. We hired altsheets to do the work, which was a mistake. We ran out of time and could not do it our selfs. I can for sure develop a block explorer, no big deal. I can also bring a website up, thats the least of problems if i have the time. So the issue here is,

1. Are we going to continue or would the community like the "takeover"? Its a simple question. I will not listen to cruton or whatever his name is.
2. We must establish a development fund. We can do that after i fix the block explorer and webpage for gaining trust, no problem.
3. I need at least one or two dedicated team members since i do not have the time to both answer questions here on the forum, doing design work (which i suck at) and code at the same time.

If the community vote for that i continue the development then we can proceed with number 2 and 3.

Regards

We will go with the takeover.

You don't need a fund because you will dump it like the scammer you are.

You never had a team. You just dumped the premine.

Go away scammer.

Quote from: Maverick69 on February 15, 2016, 09:16:46 AM

Please, go to the new thread. Block explorer, website, social links, all are coming.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-shift-shf-takeover-thread-1364925

Everyone else go to the takeover thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-shift-shf-takeover-thread-1364925

dd.
You are not trustworthy. People see that in your comments, all from the start. You do not realize it your self though..

Website is 95% done already. Teka arranged that. We had a explorer. We was on twitter with some heavy dudes, crushonbtc arranged that. You call us scammers and then you reinvent the wheel because of your greed and your large stack of SHF. Still you wont take part of the takeover, just sit back and watch. You are the type of person that drags crypto in to bad lights with your suggestions and the will to do absolutely nothing to make things proceed.

You cant hide your track record on bitcointalk, its there. Show us where we dumped the premine.. as you say we did, please enlighten the community.

Mastsetad

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Quote from: compmaster on February 15, 2016, 02:41:36 AM

Hey, SHIFT is back. Any more developments coming? This is a good coin. It would be nice to get a blockexplorer up. Paying someone per month was stupid. You should have bought the blockexplorer code or used an open source one.

It seems that Shift missed the recent pump of Etherem based coins. I hope it can be developed actively.

Maverick69

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Please, go to the new thread. Block explorer, website, social links, all are coming.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-shift-shf-takeover-thread-1364925

m4nki

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Quote from: ShiftTeam on February 15, 2016, 05:09:59 AM

Quote from: compmaster on February 15, 2016, 02:41:36 AM

Hey, SHIFT is back. Any more developments coming? This is a good coin. It would be nice to get a blockexplorer up. Paying someone per month was stupid. You should have bought the blockexplorer code or used an open source one.

We actually tried that. We hired altsheets to do the work, which was a mistake. We ran out of time and could not do it our selfs. I can for sure develop a block explorer, no big deal. I can also bring a website up, thats the least of problems if i have the time. So the issue here is,

1. Are we going to continue or would the community like the "takeover"? Its a simple question. I will not listen to cruton or whatever his name is.
2. We must establish a development fund. We can do that after i fix the block explorer and webpage for gaining trust, no problem.
3. I need at least one or two dedicated team members since i do not have the time to both answer questions here on the forum, doing design work (which i suck at) and code at the same time.

If the community vote for that i continue the development then we can proceed with number 2 and 3.

Regards

I think it would be great to have you as an advisor within the Takeover. As you know SHIFT better than anyone else and others are trying to get more devs on board, why not combine forces?

I do not know how much time you can commit to the project, but from reading your comments it seems like being more of a side project to you - of course I might be wrong.

In any case, it would be great to have a team behind SHIFT that pushes and delivers. I think a combo of new devs and your work as an advisor to those would be nice.

ShiftTeam

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The Shift Team

Quote from: compmaster on February 15, 2016, 02:41:36 AM

Hey, SHIFT is back. Any more developments coming? This is a good coin. It would be nice to get a blockexplorer up. Paying someone per month was stupid. You should have bought the blockexplorer code or used an open source one.

We actually tried that. We hired altsheets to do the work, which was a mistake. We ran out of time and could not do it our selfs. I can for sure develop a block explorer, no big deal. I can also bring a website up, thats the least of problems if i have the time. So the issue here is,

1. Are we going to continue or would the community like the "takeover"? Its a simple question. I will not listen to cruton or whatever his name is.
2. We must establish a development fund. We can do that after i fix the block explorer and webpage for gaining trust, no problem.
3. I need at least one or two dedicated team members since i do not have the time to both answer questions here on the forum, doing design work (which i suck at) and code at the same time.

If the community vote for that i continue the development then we can proceed with number 2 and 3.

Regards

toilet

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i planned on pitching in for the developer fund, unless you were going to add a bigger premine. i agree, devs need to get paid for their work, so long as they are developing the product & using the money wisely

compmaster

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Hey, SHIFT is back. Any more developments coming? This is a good coin. It would be nice to get a blockexplorer up. Paying someone per month was stupid. You should have bought the blockexplorer code or used an open source one.

ShiftTeam

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The Shift Team

What we did, we did before both EXP and SOIL. We have to this point, even though SHIFT has been inactive for a couple of months, more development than both. Now the guys from SOIL tries (and already did) make profit from this. Ironic.

Crypto at its finest. Now a days you can not make a difference in which currency is trustful and not, its all the same for investors as long as they can make some fast money. Sad really.

People have no clue how much time I and the rest of the original team have put into SHIFT

hundreds of hours combined, and now there is a take over that tries to profit from this. Again, crypto at its finest.

fartbags

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ShiftTeam isn't a scammer! He is a good guy who needs some money to keep working on the project. It's not his fault this coin was never really worth anything making the premine also worthless and unable to fund anything.

My vote would be to hard fork and add in a new 1 million SHF premine for development.

The other option is to hope for a community take over which will probably not happen as it's a huge amount of work.

ShiftTeam

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The Shift Team

Quote from: m4nki on February 14, 2016, 06:18:35 PM

Quote from: ShiftTeam on February 14, 2016, 06:17:39 PM

Maybe you are all right

A takeover might be a good idea. If i can help in any way (with limits of course) i will be glad to.

Good to have you positive towards that decision!

Believe me though, this is not an easy task. Understanding ethereum is not easy and it took me several weeks to create this clone with all that comes with it. And no, no scam, no dump. The value of shift was so low that we had to pay 10% of all the premine just for keeping the explorer up for 1 month. Then the value dropped even more and we paid 20% more. You get my point.

I wish you all the best.

m4nki

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Quote from: ShiftTeam on February 14, 2016, 06:17:39 PM

Maybe you are all right

A takeover might be a good idea. If i can help in any way (with limits of course) i will be glad to.

Good to have you positive towards that decision!

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