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Topic: [ANN][XST] Stealth-Coin.com | Tor | StealthText, World's first anonymous SMS Tx! - page 191. (Read 748429 times)

sr. member
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What do you make out of this buy wall?



Lets see what happens to this wall when price will be closer...

It will either disappear or this guy is a HUGE fan boy of XST Grin

There one more guy on price 11,5k with 27BTC order Cheesy
newbie
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Stealthcoin is without a doubt the most exciting coin in the market right now.  I believe that it has the potential to absorb all other cryptonote alt currencies on the market, great time to buy more.

http://i.imgur.com/CRvcXVn.gif

Just wanna remind everyone that XST is without a doubt the best bet right now in the crypto market.
You are right.

I do hope so
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What do you make out of this buy wall?



Lets see what happens to this wall when price will be closer...

It will either disappear or this guy is a HUGE fan boy of XST Grin
sr. member
Activity: 274
Merit: 251
What do you make out of this buy wall?



Lets see what happens to this wall when price will be closer...
full member
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Merit: 100
Does anybody trade Stealth on Cryptsy?
legendary
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both stealth and librex are owned by a P&D group....roughly 40% on both coins...there goal was to pump both to 15k before exiting. Don't believe me?? I don't care as time will tell. Why are both coins being pumped simultaneously??? Is this just coincidence?  

There's been more than one P&D group playing with these two coins.

Well either way...One of the groups plan has been 15k exit

I'm also with a group, the Stealthcoin Group. The group say...


LOL, jealous much?
When XST hit BTC-E easy .
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What do you make out of this buy wall?

legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Stealthcoin is without a doubt the most exciting coin in the market right now.  I believe that it has the potential to absorb all other cryptonote alt currencies on the market, great time to buy more.



Just wanna remind everyone that XST is without a doubt the best bet right now in the crypto market.
You are right.
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I just woke up to stabile 13k, thats crazy.

20k when we hit mintpal ?

What was it at when you went to sleep?
It just broke 10k when i hit the bed.
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I just woke up to stabile 13k, thats crazy.

20k when we hit mintpal ?

What was it at when you went to sleep?
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I just woke up to stabile 13k, thats crazy.

20k when we hit mintpal ?
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Now it also appears that the only difference between sublinear ring signatures and non-sublinear ring signatures is the lack of bloat from the former.

A dev (I think he's a Monero guy) said that Chandran Signatures are actually larger and slower. So I asked him about it given the StealthSend white paper says they're smaller and gave examples of how they would be smaller.  He explained that yes, with the examples given in the white paper, they would be smaller than CN, but when you have a lot less sigs in the mix, it would actually end up being larger than the CN sigs. He also showed me a Monero transaction that was very small, < 1k in size.

He also said that Chandran Signatures have the same issue as the CN ones that were outlined in a whitepaper about flaws in Monero.

this guy who you spoke didn't know what is chandran signatures until a few days ago.
monero is a copy&paste of bytecoin


At least the discussion is becoming more elevated. Which I find more interesting.
legendary
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#mitandopelomundo
Now it also appears that the only difference between sublinear ring signatures and non-sublinear ring signatures is the lack of bloat from the former.

A dev (I think he's a Monero guy) said that Chandran Signatures are actually larger and slower. So I asked him about it given the StealthSend white paper says they're smaller and gave examples of how they would be smaller.  He explained that yes, with the examples given in the white paper, they would be smaller than CN, but when you have a lot less sigs in the mix, it would actually end up being larger than the CN sigs. He also showed me a Monero transaction that was very small, < 1k in size.

He also said that Chandran Signatures have the same issue as the CN ones that were outlined in a whitepaper about flaws in Monero.

this guy who you spoke didn't know what is chandran signatures until a few days ago.
monero is a copy&paste of bytecoin
sr. member
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Now it also appears that the only difference between sublinear ring signatures and non-sublinear ring signatures is the lack of bloat from the former.

A dev (I think he's a Monero guy) said that Chandran Signatures are actually larger and slower. So I asked him about it given the StealthSend white paper says they're smaller and gave examples of how they would be smaller.  He explained that yes, with the examples given in the white paper, they would be smaller than CN, but when you have a lot less sigs in the mix, it would actually end up being larger than the CN sigs. He also showed me a Monero transaction that was very small, < 1k in size.

He also said that Chandran Signatures have the same issue as the CN ones that were outlined in a whitepaper about flaws in Monero.
sr. member
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Nice fake buy wall @0.00012900  Smiley Whales eating dumb money  Smiley

Really, please have at it! Smiley
legendary
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#mitandopelomundo
Nice fake buy wall @0.00012900  Smiley Whales eating dumb money  Smiley

test it  Wink
sr. member
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Nice fake buy wall @0.00012900  Smiley Whales eating dumb money  Smiley
legendary
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#mitandopelomundo
Can someone explain Chandran Signature's to me please? Bonus points if it's technical.
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A new arrival in the arena of anonymous crypto-currences, StealthCoin (XST), promises to add ring signatures to the Bitcoin codebase with StealthSend, which is still in development. According to the StealthSend whitepaper (https://www.dropbox.com/s/do4urdefwoungjz/Stealthsend-Whitepaper-Brief-201409.pdf?dl=0), StealthSend transactions using ring signatures of 100 keys will only require about one third the space of similar CryptoNote transactions, but give the same level of privacy protection. This savings is achieved through the use of the use of so-called “Chandran Signatures”, and innovations related to the selection of the keys used for the ring signatures. In StealthSend, key selection is based on four numbers: two random numbers (called “nonces”), one number that reduces the difficulty of selecting the keys by specifying a subset of all possible keys, and one number to specify the size of the ring. Thus, the nonce key selection specifies any set of randomly selected keys using only 32 bytes of storage.Applied to CryptoNotes, the nonce key selection proposed for StealthSend would lead to a space savings of about 30% for future transactions.
http://www.deepdotweb.com/2014/09/18/can-anoncoin-be-the-currency-of-the-deep-web/

Or for more technical
http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=nHiNfcgAAAAJ

Alright so the name "Chandran Signatures" is from the person who proposed it; Nishanth Chandran?

And really it is actually Sublinear Signatures that are being proposed to be added which seems to be a variation of the ring-signatures used by cryptonote currencies. (Hypothesizing here, correct me if I'm wrong)

Now it also appears that the only difference between sublinear ring signatures and non-sublinear ring signatures is the lack of bloat from the former.

If I'm correct with the above, I would assume that this implementation of ring signatures would still be vulnerable to the same exploit used in regular cryptonote currencies. (if BCX has actually found an exploit)

Anyway, interesting stuff. Thanks for the links. I'll keep an eye on this.

Hondo seems to be creating something new, don't just implementing chandran signatures in source code of the regular cryptonotes
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1. EmilioMann - Bobsurplus is still way into this coin, unlike what your post earlier said.
2. BTCwriter - Quit the whole posting in BTCD and SuperNET thread telling them that they are spamming this thread.  Unless you have facts you are not helping the situation.

I hold this coin and will continue to do so but at the same time both of you make me cringe with your constant cheerleading, circle jerking, reposting, and more.

To sum it up EmilioMann and BTCwriter are the two girls and this thread is becoming their cup.

fuck you mother fucker.
I never spoke to you and also not given you confidence to speak that way to me.
From this moment you will be ignored otário filho duma puta
Back to your scam seu viado zéruela trouxa

YAWN
Something something about confidence to speak that way to you, yes, you sound like a retard and I am tired of your shit.
Please ignore me and continue on speaking in a language other than English, because you fucking suck at it.
Back to my scam?  So you basically called Stealthcoin a scam?
hero member
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The Buck Stops Here.
Can someone explain Chandran Signature's to me please? Bonus points if it's technical.
Quote
A new arrival in the arena of anonymous crypto-currences, StealthCoin (XST), promises to add ring signatures to the Bitcoin codebase with StealthSend, which is still in development. According to the StealthSend whitepaper (https://www.dropbox.com/s/do4urdefwoungjz/Stealthsend-Whitepaper-Brief-201409.pdf?dl=0), StealthSend transactions using ring signatures of 100 keys will only require about one third the space of similar CryptoNote transactions, but give the same level of privacy protection. This savings is achieved through the use of the use of so-called “Chandran Signatures”, and innovations related to the selection of the keys used for the ring signatures. In StealthSend, key selection is based on four numbers: two random numbers (called “nonces”), one number that reduces the difficulty of selecting the keys by specifying a subset of all possible keys, and one number to specify the size of the ring. Thus, the nonce key selection specifies any set of randomly selected keys using only 32 bytes of storage.Applied to CryptoNotes, the nonce key selection proposed for StealthSend would lead to a space savings of about 30% for future transactions.
http://www.deepdotweb.com/2014/09/18/can-anoncoin-be-the-currency-of-the-deep-web/

Or for more technical
http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=nHiNfcgAAAAJ

Alright so the name "Chandran Signatures" is from the person who proposed it; Nishanth Chandran?

And really it is actually Sublinear Signatures that are being proposed to be added which seems to be a variation of the ring-signatures used by cryptonote currencies. (Hypothesizing here, correct me if I'm wrong)

Now it also appears that the only difference between sublinear ring signatures and non-sublinear ring signatures is the lack of bloat from the former.

If I'm correct with the above, I would assume that this implementation of ring signatures would still be vulnerable to the same exploit used in regular cryptonote currencies. (if BCX has actually found an exploit)

Anyway, interesting stuff. Thanks for the links. I'll keep an eye on this.
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