Topic: [ANN][XST] Stealth-Coin.com | Tor | StealthText, World's first anonymous SMS Tx! - page 31. (Read 748616 times)
October 13, 2014, 01:00:16 PM
October 13, 2014, 12:38:20 PM
XST is a great opportunity right now with recent events huge improvements are coming in the roadmap - 5k is seriously cheap for what is set to be the #1 anoncoin.
October 13, 2014, 12:38:03 PM
Glad we are back
Trading at 5k now
still holding my xst. ..
Hope it stays there and rise
Trading at 5k now
still holding my xst. ..
Hope it stays there and rise
Don`t be afraid, XST still have some great features and its developer still works on it. The price will rise steadily after some time.
October 13, 2014, 12:30:39 PM
Glad we are back
Trading at 5k now
still holding my xst. ..
Hope it stays there and rise
Trading at 5k now
still holding my xst. ..
Hope it stays there and rise
5K is very cheap for a working anon coin (both network and blockchain anonymity) plus the benefit of the worlds first encrypted/anonymous SMS transactions. Patience is key here.
October 13, 2014, 12:24:12 PM
Still ...is not excuse for posting on somebody else thread few hundred times your opinion about the technology of a coin. You are missing the point...big time.
I bet you wouldn't do that. Still you are somehow defending them and motivate their action penalizing our enthusiasm.
It is like any time your dev is announcing a new feature, I should come on to your community and write few hundred posts telling you that you are wrong to believe your dev, and blame you for not being a tech person and not understanding fundamental rules.
C'mon! I can see that you are a decent person. Think again.
If I know that something is wrong with your coin, I'll take that with your dev. I will not shatter your hopes and believes and cause your price to drop, for the simple fact that I have empathy and I'm in the same boat with you, and moreover because I'm not certain that what I believe is true, and is wrong to dump it on the community.
Couldn't agree with you more. The actions and manners in which last week transpired is completely inexcusable, and please, let's be clear, I am not making excuses for anyone's actions. There is plenty to fault. Going forward I hope this thread creates an environment that welcomes critical questioning about the technical details of this coin.
You can go to any coin community and tell them some mambo jambo scientific details and shout at them that they are animals and they don't understand and they gonna lose all.
You think the panic sellers go first to the library and order a book about Chandran ?
But I tell you what. At the end of the day, and I'm not lying, the bright side of this is that I realized the honesty of our dev, and that combined
with the fact that he is a real scientist it makes him a rare jewel among the trash that is in the cryptoworld.
Oh! And I get the chance to buy and buy again cheap XST
October 13, 2014, 12:23:18 PM
Glad we are back
Trading at 5k now
still holding my xst. ..
Hope it stays there and rise
Trading at 5k now
still holding my xst. ..
Hope it stays there and rise
October 13, 2014, 12:12:39 PM
Still ...is not excuse for posting on somebody else thread few hundred times your opinion about the technology of a coin. You are missing the point...big time.
I bet you wouldn't do that. Still you are somehow defending them and motivate their action penalizing our enthusiasm.
It is like any time your dev is announcing a new feature, I should come on to your community and write few hundred posts telling you that you are wrong to believe your dev, and blame you for not being a tech person and not understanding fundamental rules.
C'mon! I can see that you are a decent person. Think again.
If I know that something is wrong with your coin, I'll take that with your dev. I will not shatter your hopes and believes and cause your price to drop, for the simple fact that I have empathy and I'm in the same boat with you, and moreover because I'm not certain that what I believe is true, and is wrong to dump it on the community.
Couldn't agree with you more. The actions and manners in which last week transpired is completely inexcusable, and please, let's be clear, I am not making excuses for anyone's actions. There is plenty to fault. Going forward I hope this thread creates an environment that welcomes critical questioning about the technical details of this coin.
October 13, 2014, 12:00:02 PM
If there anybody should attack something, then they should attack dev's finite product and the dev himself not the community.
The attacks were against a plan to develop something and against a totally non tech community.
So the chandran signatures opened the way for others to attack the community.
Anyone who had something to talk about chandran signatures could have PM the dev and discuss.
Also without consulting the dev, that guy went to Andytoshi who had no idea for what he's answers are going to be used, and after he got what he wanted he came back to our community and spammed the forum for few days with the screenshot of the conversation, until most dumped their investment.
So this is what actually erok said.
So you tell me. How on the earth could and can the community of Stealth answer questions about tech things like chandran signatures, or anything else like it? And why anyone should come and ask us or debate with us the in-depth technology of the coin, when only the dev can answer that ?
Perhaps it was because the community here was constantly chanting Chandran Signatures at every turn. One would think that if a community member was promoting these chandran signatures, they would at least have a fundamental understanding of them. The failure here is not the FUD, nor the pump and dumps, but of a community who accepted whatever a dev told them and shouted down anyone who questioned otherwise. If you are going to invest money in something, it would be wise to do your due diligence and ask the hard questions so that you understand exactly what you are investing in.
It is unfortunate it took the past week's ugliness to bring us to this point, but this community has not created a conducive environment for rational, technical discussions. Hondo has posted a rather humble and much needed 'state of affairs' update, he should be commended for his frankness, even it was late to need. Hopefully he can get the necessary guidance and support to help fulfill his goals.
The Chandran signature issue is something that could have affected any community attempting innovation -- that's how research goes. Imagine how cancer researchers feel when they try and try again but things just don't work out how it's planned.
Now, Hondo is fantastic. It is evident that his character promotes a high level of transparency. Shit happens when you're in research and he will recover well from it.
Most importantly, though, is that he has demonstrated he can learn. Profession wise he was a scientist, and has formal training working with integrating complex information and studying technical literature. Xst is likely to see numerous innovations - even unplanned ones - as time goes on and he has time to study and work more.
Yes, there are lessons to learn about finesse here but the ball was not dropped. Retrace and aim again.
October 13, 2014, 11:55:48 AM
If there anybody should attack something, then they should attack dev's finite product and the dev himself not the community.
The attacks were against a plan to develop something and against a totally non tech community.
So the chandran signatures opened the way for others to attack the community.
Anyone who had something to talk about chandran signatures could have PM the dev and discuss.
Also without consulting the dev, that guy went to Andytoshi who had no idea for what he's answers are going to be used, and after he got what he wanted he came back to our community and spammed the forum for few days with the screenshot of the conversation, until most dumped their investment.
So this is what actually erok said.
So you tell me. How on the earth could and can the community of Stealth answer questions about tech things like chandran signatures, or anything else like it? And why anyone should come and ask us or debate with us the in-depth technology of the coin, when only the dev can answer that ?
Perhaps it was because the community here was constantly chanting Chandran Signatures at every turn. One would think that if a community member was promoting these chandran signatures, they would at least have a fundamental understanding of them. The failure here is not the FUD, nor the pump and dumps, but of a community who accepted whatever a dev told them and shouted down anyone who questioned otherwise. If you are going to invest money in something, it would be wise to do your due diligence and ask the hard questions so that you understand exactly what you are investing in.
It is unfortunate it took the past week's ugliness to bring us to this point, but this community has not created a conducive environment for rational, technical discussions. Hondo has posted a rather humble and much needed 'state of affairs' update, he should be commended for his frankness, even it was late to need. Hopefully he can get the necessary guidance and support to help fulfill his goals.
I bet you wouldn't do that. Still you are somehow defending them and motivate their action penalizing our enthusiasm.
It is like any time your dev is announcing a new feature, I should come on to your community and write few hundred posts telling you that you are wrong to believe your dev, and blame you for not being a tech person and not understanding fundamental rules.
C'mon! I can see that you are a decent person. Think again.
If I truly believe that something might be wrong with your coin, I'll take that with your dev. I will not shatter your hopes and believes and cause your price to drop, for the simple fact that I have empathy and I'm in the same boat with you, and moreover because I'm not certain that what I believe is true, and is wrong to dump it on the community.
October 13, 2014, 11:31:03 AM
You didn't even mention emiliomann or longandshort or pookie or Omaha? You didn't mention the blockchain fud. You didn't mention the source citations. Did you post-mortem any of this or just jump in at the part where bitcoin devs commented on it?
I'm only going to say this once, this is nothing against you personally though.
If you want an article talking about FUD, there are multiple of them out there already.
We report the issue itself, not who called whose momma fat or said something about his/her sister.
The facts are : Chandran signatures in their original form won't work, this was verified by BTC devs, Hondo admitted he was a bit misinformed, we quoted parts of his statement.
That's all there is to this story, the rest is just useless noise.
Very logical and level headed answer from a HERO member
The issues:
- XST not citing code source (yo momma)
- SDC having a large blockchain (yo momma)
- Emiliomann stating that as a member of the XST team he can be trusted to know that SDC was switching to cryptonote
- Longandshort issues with the prospective solutions by xst
- Misquoting the convo with the BTC guys.
Personally I think all of it is crap but if someone is gonna write an article about it... Also I think this is a some simple Q&A style knock'em'out fud that could have been squashed by devs on both sides quick so you have to wonder what other moving parts are in play.
October 13, 2014, 11:20:33 AM
Thank you for you XST:) just bought some xD
Nice
My available btc are arrested by mintpal.
I can't put buy order in mintbug and then i did a transfer to bittrex yesterday and so far they have not appeared
Told you new mintpal is pure fail.
Mintpal is unsafe to have your funds on
Moolah really did a number on that exchangeThat's a real shame about Mintpal, it was half decent until Moolah came in and messed it up. I really liked the interface, it was clean and to the point. Now its a bloody mess. Anyway I'm am so happy to see this thread back to some semblance of normal. The Dev, has cut to the chase given us a straight assessment of where the coin is at. Hopefully he will have some luck bringing in some more talent to help him. Going forward I feel optimistic.
October 13, 2014, 10:49:29 AM
Even the King of cryptocoins - BTC - fell from 1.200 USD to 300 USD. So the current downturn of XST is not really horrible. Last weeks experience will be a good lesson for XST and its community. XST will surely get stronger and will rise after a while.
Agree. Every coin has its setbacks. Last week was a realization that introducing something band new takes research and time. Hondo is not superman. He defiantly has the right attitude and is clearly very smart, so in the long run the coins value will only go up. I really like the way Hondo deals with everything that comes his way in a professional manner. He is also very transparent which I value.
Given the short term drop in price, it appears to be a great time to buy. Shame I do not have any BTC left to invest.
Let's build a supportive community.
October 13, 2014, 10:40:29 AM
Thank you for you XST:) just bought some xD
Nice
My available btc are arrested by mintpal.
I can't put buy order in mintbug and then i did a transfer to bittrex yesterday and so far they have not appeared
Told you new mintpal is pure fail.
Mintpal is unsafe to have your funds on
Moolah really did a number on that exchange October 13, 2014, 10:38:52 AM
Thank you for you XST:) just bought some xD
Nice
My available btc are arrested by mintpal.
I can't put buy order in mintbug and then i did a transfer to bittrex yesterday and so far they have not appeared
Told you new mintpal is pure fail.
October 13, 2014, 10:25:01 AM
Even the King of cryptocoins - BTC - fell from 1.200 USD to 300 USD. So the current downturn of XST is not really horrible. Last weeks experience will be a good lesson for XST and its community. XST will surely get stronger and will rise after a while.
October 13, 2014, 10:22:30 AM
Thank you for you XST:) just bought some xD
Nice
My available btc are arrested by mintpal.
I can't put buy order in mintbug and then i did a transfer to bittrex yesterday and so far they have not appeared
October 13, 2014, 10:22:18 AM
Thank you for you XST:) just bought some xD
+well done! thanx for this dump! now I'm happy with more
and more XST in my wallet! 
October 13, 2014, 10:15:41 AM
If there anybody should attack something, then they should attack dev's finite product and the dev himself not the community.
The attacks were against a plan to develop something and against a totally non tech community.
So the chandran signatures opened the way for others to attack the community.
Anyone who had something to talk about chandran signatures could have PM the dev and discuss.
Also without consulting the dev, that guy went to Andytoshi who had no idea for what he's answers are going to be used, and after he got what he wanted he came back to our community and spammed the forum for few days with the screenshot of the conversation, until most dumped their investment.
So this is what actually erok said.
So you tell me. How on the earth could and can the community of Stealth answer questions about tech things like chandran signatures, or anything else like it? And why anyone should come and ask us or debate with us the in-depth technology of the coin, when only the dev can answer that ?
Perhaps it was because the community here was constantly chanting Chandran Signatures at every turn. One would think that if a community member was promoting these chandran signatures, they would at least have a fundamental understanding of them. The failure here is not the FUD, nor the pump and dumps, but of a community who accepted whatever a dev told them and shouted down anyone who questioned otherwise. If you are going to invest money in something, it would be wise to do your due diligence and ask the hard questions so that you understand exactly what you are investing in.
It is unfortunate it took the past week's ugliness to bring us to this point, but this community has not created a conducive environment for rational, technical discussions. Hondo has posted a rather humble and much needed 'state of affairs' update, he should be commended for his frankness, even it was late to need. Hopefully he can get the necessary guidance and support to help fulfill his goals.
October 13, 2014, 10:09:25 AM
Thank you for you XST:) just bought some xD
October 13, 2014, 10:06:07 AM
Reading through most of this non-sense it seems as if there is 2 players who cause a terrible view of XST. This Emilio and BtcWriter honestly embarrass the community. They refute everything with ignorant and childish answers. It makes the community look terrible when everyone agrees with them, because its painfully obvious that they don't fully understand the concepts they are trying to argue/refute. They consistently post trash or concepts they believe are "fact" with out any backing what so ever, and each time they argue with an outsider they the show just how Un-educated they are with these concepts within crypto. When outsiders come in to this thread to actually read about XST, and see these "Community Leaders" posting these irrational post with little logic, and imature tones it leaves a sour taste in potential investors mouths. These two members are hurting more then helping, again just a different view on the subject at hand.
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