Topic: [Antminer S1 Sales open] Price changes daily, now 0.414 BTC for 180GH/s - page 167. (Read 346286 times)
February 28, 2014, 08:13:37 AM
Did Bitmaintech change the value for anyone who specifically wanted the lower value?
February 28, 2014, 07:31:02 AM
I think the trouble with DHL is that there base charges are so high compared to UPS, for example some cables that I just got in from China that were $100 cost me £30 ($50) in charges.
Actually DHL charges are about the same as UPS, the real problem is that Bitmain started to declare Ants $900 instead of $140 without any notice.
February 28, 2014, 06:34:04 AM
Thanks to those who have posted about the increased charges especially in the UK, I had been wavering about a large order as it was too near breakeven but this makes it not a good deal as it adds BTC0.3 to the cost.
I think the trouble with DHL is that there base charges are so high compared to UPS, for example some cables that I just got in from China that were $100 cost me £30 ($50) in charges.
Please bitmain go back to UPS
I think the trouble with DHL is that there base charges are so high compared to UPS, for example some cables that I just got in from China that were $100 cost me £30 ($50) in charges.
Please bitmain go back to UPS
February 28, 2014, 06:19:16 AM
Guys I am sure that Bitmain didn't do this intentionally.
Are your Ants delivered by DHL btw?
DHL is a b*tch when it comes to customs & tax.
Anyways, I am sure Bitmain will look into your matter and probably compensate.
They might give you coupons to make up.
Maybe not.
Who knows?
Are your Ants delivered by DHL btw?
DHL is a b*tch when it comes to customs & tax.
Anyways, I am sure Bitmain will look into your matter and probably compensate.
They might give you coupons to make up.
Maybe not.
Who knows?
February 28, 2014, 05:47:21 AM
Antminer S1 currently mine at about 0.02776860 BTC per day without overclocking.
(Current Difficulties: 3,129,573,175)
*Pool luck may increase or decrese the mining rate.
(Current Difficulties: 3,129,573,175)
*Pool luck may increase or decrese the mining rate.
Please bitmain explain your sudden change about the declared value of the parcels
February 28, 2014, 05:40:27 AM
Antminer S1 currently mine at about 0.02776860 BTC per day without overclocking.
(Current Difficulties: 3,129,573,175)
*Pool luck may increase or decrese the mining rate.
(Current Difficulties: 3,129,573,175)
*Pool luck may increase or decrese the mining rate.
Perhaps it's a better idea to do some explanation about all the trouble caused (changing to DHL and increasing package value without telling us prior to ordering) instead of giving us numbers which one can get themselves within a minute?
February 28, 2014, 05:38:24 AM
Shit i'm screwed, i have 18 S1's coming in tomorrow with DHL. UPS last time was 80€ for 3 S1's, i hope DHL is not to expensive, or it was my last direct order via bitmain themselfs!
WHY DID BITMAIN CHANGE COURIER WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE???
Their ORDER website states:
WHY DID BITMAIN CHANGE COURIER WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE???
Their ORDER website states:
Quote
UPS is for international shipment by default, DHL and EMS are also available, while making a special comment if needed. S.F. Express is for domestic shipment.
well, you are screwed. DHL will ask you for a lot of papers and money for customs fees.
February 28, 2014, 05:16:43 AM
The problem is not them changing it, the problem is them not telling us.
Exactly! This is the problem!!! And a big one!
Yes it would have been nice to have been told of this, as it would have made me think twice about the order. The Bitcoin to purchase was mined and was all I had available, and is not an issue. Even if it goes down after my order then hey ho that's life.
My problem is cash. We are not particularly well off and with the money on top we had for the power supply set aside we were quite down on available cash and even room on the debit card for regular purchases. So an extra not budgeted £70 is a squeeze to find. On top off that it is looking like Tuesday of next week for delivery which is an extra 2 days over what UPS delivered the others in. When money is tight it all matters.
February 28, 2014, 05:14:31 AM
Antminer S1 currently mine at about 0.02776860 BTC per day without overclocking.
(Current Difficulties: 3,129,573,175)
*Pool luck may increase or decrese the mining rate.
(Current Difficulties: 3,129,573,175)
*Pool luck may increase or decrese the mining rate.
February 28, 2014, 04:35:02 AM
The problem is not them changing it, the problem is them not telling us.
Exactly! This is the problem!!! And a big one!
February 28, 2014, 03:21:05 AM
Besides all the crap about customs costs, why did they suddenly pick DHL?
I have 3 orders, 2 were shipped on the 25th by DHL and they're still somewhere between Hong Kong and Amsterdam, they'll be delivered monday or tuesday next week. The last order was shipped the 26th by UPS and will be delivered today.
And like I posted in another Bitmain thread:
I have 3 orders, 2 were shipped on the 25th by DHL and they're still somewhere between Hong Kong and Amsterdam, they'll be delivered monday or tuesday next week. The last order was shipped the 26th by UPS and will be delivered today.
And like I posted in another Bitmain thread:
I've ordered about 20 ants over the last months, duty was always around €50 to €30 and the last ones were free. I can set myself to seeing this as being lucky for not having to pay much.
However, because the costs have never been high, everybody counts on them to stay low. The big problem here is that Bitmain decided to ship them out as $900 value WITHOUT TELLING ANYONE ABOUT IT!!
They should know this brings extra costs for their customers, so why didn't they tell? Probably because they were afraid for getting less orders.
I personally would still have ordered with them, but then at least I knew I could count on additional costs which I could include in my calculations.
The problem is not them changing it, the problem is them not telling us.
However, because the costs have never been high, everybody counts on them to stay low. The big problem here is that Bitmain decided to ship them out as $900 value WITHOUT TELLING ANYONE ABOUT IT!!
They should know this brings extra costs for their customers, so why didn't they tell? Probably because they were afraid for getting less orders.
I personally would still have ordered with them, but then at least I knew I could count on additional costs which I could include in my calculations.
The problem is not them changing it, the problem is them not telling us.
February 27, 2014, 10:27:25 PM
dont blame shipper for customs duty and tax
February 27, 2014, 07:27:09 PM
Shit i'm screwed, i have 18 S1's coming in tomorrow with DHL. UPS last time was 80€ for 3 S1's, i hope DHL is not to expensive, or it was my last direct order via bitmain themselfs!
WHY DID BITMAIN CHANGE COURIER WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE???
Their ORDER website states:
WHY DID BITMAIN CHANGE COURIER WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE???
Their ORDER website states:
Quote
UPS is for international shipment by default, DHL and EMS are also available, while making a special comment if needed. S.F. Express is for domestic shipment.
February 27, 2014, 06:01:39 PM
my S1 shipped 
will in my home about april..
bitmaintech professional vendor
will in my home about april..
bitmaintech professional vendor
April ?? Where the hell do live for shipping to take over a month
Or did you forget about March
LMAO,we are marching to a different beat....all the way to the wallet (not bank) !!!!!!!!!!!
February 27, 2014, 03:36:15 PM
Yes you put a , ok.
You paid 170Eur extra. ok
You've ordered one to play. ok
And what about an order of 25 pieces and you didn't calculate with this cost, and no refund if they goes back to China. (Because you didn't know about this invoice change.)
Would you put a here?
, ok.You paid 170Eur extra. ok
You've ordered one to play. ok
And what about an order of 25 pieces and you didn't calculate with this cost, and no refund if they goes back to China. (Because you didn't know about this invoice change.)
Would you put a
here?Kind of yes, because it would still be my own fault for betting on getting away with not paying customs fees. Or maybe more of a "
" situation in that case.I don't think so.
There was a habit how they send they units.
They sent 1000-s of them on this way. I didn't wanted more just to say: Hey guys! From tomorrow the shipping will be....
I think you know what I mean
February 27, 2014, 03:29:13 PM
Side note: I have 35 running this moment. Every piece passed customs with no problem. I payed tha vat and tax and that's all.
You should better be thankful that bitmain reduced the price for customs in the past so that you only had to pay a piece of the normal costs.Everyone here importing hardware should be aware that he might have to provide a proof of payment even if it is paid with BTC. And it is no magic required to recalculate that into USD....
It is quite naive to buy larger amounts ignoring the fact that full customs taxes need to be paid..
Customs stopped one of my bigger orders and I could solve it without a problem.
You need only a little fantasy....
I think I know what am i talking about....
February 27, 2014, 03:26:45 PM
Side note: I have 35 running this moment. Every piece passed customs with no problem. I payed tha vat and tax and that's all.
You should better be thankful that bitmain reduced the price for customs in the past so that you only had to pay a piece of the normal costs.Everyone here importing hardware should be aware that he might have to provide a proof of payment even if it is paid with BTC. And it is no magic required to recalculate that into USD....
It is quite naive to buy larger amounts ignoring the fact that full customs taxes need to be paid..
February 27, 2014, 03:23:50 PM
Yes you put a , ok.
You paid 170Eur extra. ok
You've ordered one to play. ok
And what about an order of 25 pieces and you didn't calculate with this cost, and no refund if they goes back to China. (Because you didn't know about this invoice change.)
Would you put a here?
, ok.You paid 170Eur extra. ok
You've ordered one to play. ok
And what about an order of 25 pieces and you didn't calculate with this cost, and no refund if they goes back to China. (Because you didn't know about this invoice change.)
Would you put a
here?Kind of yes, because it would still be my own fault for betting on getting away with not paying customs fees. Or maybe more of a "
" situation in that case. February 27, 2014, 03:12:29 PM
So the higher declared value is set in stone now? Would be nice to get a confirmation, as it makes the offier, at least for me, rather less attractive.
February 27, 2014, 03:11:02 PM
Although it kind of sucks the customs charges shouldn't be too much of a surprise. We (the customers) are supposed to be paying them. So while Bitmain was kind enough to be skirting the edges of what is (il)legal the first few times they are well within legal territory now. It could open up a can of worms if packages get inspected and it is determined that declared values are systematically lowered.
So again it is a bummer, but can't really blame them.
Addendum: I had to pay about 170 EUR extra on my last one.
So again it is a bummer, but can't really blame them.
Addendum: I had to pay about 170 EUR extra on my last one.
Yes you put a
, ok.You paid 170Eur extra. ok
You've ordered one to play. ok
And what about an order of 25 pieces and you didn't calculate with this cost, and no refund if they goes back to China. (Because you didn't know about this invoice change.)
Would you put a
here?Edit:
I'm lucky, I've ordered only 7 this time. I got 1500$ plus because I didn't knew about this change. The profit on the 7 miners.
Yesterday I was on to put an order to 25 pieces but thank God i decided to wait until the price goes to 1.4btc and I know about this new situation. Now i have to think about this order.
So it's funny if you play with one and pay 100 eur more? Maybe yes.
But not when you order more.
Side note: I have 35 running this moment. Every piece passed customs with no problem. I payed tha vat and tax and that's all.
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