Topic: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.319/GH &amp; 0.51W/GH - page 49. (Read 451039 times)

Used miner purchases will receive coupons towards new miner purchases

Although this current batch of Antminer S5 listed for sale are used units, Bitmain performs quality control testing on every machine to ensure that it is in proper working order before shipping to consumers.

These machines have only been running for about 40 days in our farm, so there should not be a significant impact on the performance or the total life of the machines.

Bitmain would like to offer coupons to customers who bought S4+ or S5 recently to be used towards the future purchase of our next generation of mining machine.

At this time, we are unable to provide detailed information on the new machines or the size of the coupons, but please expect an official announcement in the near future.

Thanks for the update! And thanks for extending the 15-day warranty on these "second-hand" S5's to 30 days! It makes them a little easier to sell :-)

By the way, just a little English-language suggestion: PLEASE stop calling these "second hand" -- that term has very negative connotations in English that you would NOT want associated with your products: the term is usually used to describe worn, damaged and degraded items (usually clothing or furniture) that have been passed down person to person (or generations of a family). Second hand goods are typically given way for free to the poor or sold for a fraction of their original price.

The professional terms used in the electronics industry for used devices that are tested, maybe-repaired and resold by the original manufacturer are:

- "Factory Refurbished"
- "Factory Certified Returns"
- "Open Box Items"

and it's also standard in the industry to offer the same full warranty on such items as new good, to assure buyers they are just as good as new!

The second hand term I think is proper, as they have been running up to 40 days. I think they handled it well at this point though with that post. If they would have posted day one would have been better. I suggest next time launching a sale like this and info at same time.

Below is why I don't think other terms are proper

- "Factory Refurbished" - these are still working miners they were not refurbished, just checked for performance. I see refurbished going in re pasting, making it just like it was brand new.
- "Factory Certified Returns" this they are not returns it is from data center bitmain owns so again sounds good but not acccurate
- "Open Box Items" Open box goes to where it does not tell much and these did not set in a open box they were on a rack running.

I think second hand is very fair term, and they have now done a great job explaining it.

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Quote from: QuintLeo on July 27, 2015, 07:27:53 AM

Used miner purchases will receive coupons towards new miner purchases

Although this current batch of Antminer S5 listed for sale are used units, Bitmain performs quality control testing on every machine to ensure that it is in proper working order before shipping to consumers.

These machines have only been running for about 40 days in our farm, so there should not be a significant impact on the performance or the total life of the machines.

Bitmain would like to offer coupons to customers who bought S4+ or S5 recently to be used towards the future purchase of our next generation of mining machine.

At this time, we are unable to provide detailed information on the new machines or the size of the coupons, but please expect an official announcement in the near future.

Thanks for the update! And thanks for extending the 15-day warranty on these "second-hand" S5's to 30 days! It makes them a little easier to sell :-)

By the way, just a little English-language suggestion: PLEASE stop calling these "second hand" -- that term has very negative connotations in English that you would NOT want associated with your products: the term is usually used to describe worn, damaged and degraded items (usually clothing or furniture) that have been passed down person to person (or generations of a family). Second hand goods are typically given way for free to the poor or sold for a fraction of their original price.

The professional terms used in the electronics industry for used devices that are tested, maybe-repaired and resold by the original manufacturer are:

- "Factory Refurbished"
- "Factory Certified Returns"
- "Open Box Items"

and it's also standard in the industry to offer the same full warranty on such items as new good, to assure buyers they are just as good as new!

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Used miner purchases will receive coupons towards new miner purchases

Although this current batch of Antminer S5 listed for sale are used units, Bitmain performs quality control testing on every machine to ensure that it is in proper working order before shipping to consumers.

These machines have only been running for about 40 days in our farm, so there should not be a significant impact on the performance or the total life of the machines.

Bitmain would like to offer coupons to customers who bought S4+ or S5 recently to be used towards the future purchase of our next generation of mining machine.

At this time, we are unable to provide detailed information on the new machines or the size of the coupons, but please expect an official announcement in the near future.

How about those of us that had an order pending and suddenly just as we got the payment together *poof* no more "new" S5s exist?

I would have had the money together a month or so sooner if y'all hadn't kept jacking the price up.

They have had different phases of how they do coupons. It's hard to tell what this one will be like. At one point they were hard to get (I have a feeling this will be true). Others it was like they gave out candy and just a email got them.

With it being "customers who bought S4+ or S5 recently" I have a feeling it will be limited amount of coupons and they dont give out like candy.

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Used miner purchases will receive coupons towards new miner purchases

Although this current batch of Antminer S5 listed for sale are used units, Bitmain performs quality control testing on every machine to ensure that it is in proper working order before shipping to consumers.

These machines have only been running for about 40 days in our farm, so there should not be a significant impact on the performance or the total life of the machines.

Bitmain would like to offer coupons to customers who bought S4+ or S5 recently to be used towards the future purchase of our next generation of mining machine.

At this time, we are unable to provide detailed information on the new machines or the size of the coupons, but please expect an official announcement in the near future.

How about those of us that had an order pending and suddenly just as we got the payment together *poof* no more "new" S5s exist?

I would have had the money together a month or so sooner if y'all hadn't kept jacking the price up, or if your DHGate store didn't keep refusing my VALID credit card for no apparent reason (same card worked the same day with NewEgg and on several Amazon purchases, issue was NOT on my end, ended up having to get some Bitcoin to try to complete the order that way but dang CoinBase is SLOW sometimes.....).

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Quote from: Biodom on July 26, 2015, 12:58:05 PM

Used miner purchases will receive coupons towards future purchases

Although this current batch of Antminer S5 listed for sale are used units, Bitmain performs quality control testing on every machine to ensure that it is in proper working order before shipping to consumers.

These machines have only been running for about 40 days in our farm, so there should not be a significant impact on the performance or the total life of the machines.

Bitmain would like to offer coupons to customers who bought S4+ or S5 recently to be used towards the future purchase of our next generation of mining machine.

At this time, we are unable to provide detailed information on the new machines or the size of the coupons, but please expect an official announcement in the near future.

Thank you for providing information where we are not speculating! Always appropriate details this explains exactly what used means in this case.

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Used miner purchases will receive coupons towards new miner purchases

Although this current batch of Antminer S5 listed for sale are used units, Bitmain performs quality control testing on every machine to ensure that it is in proper working order before shipping to consumers.

These machines have only been running for about 40 days in our farm, so there should not be a significant impact on the performance or the total life of the machines.

Bitmain would like to offer coupons to customers who bought S4+ or S5 recently to be used towards the future purchase of our next generation of mining machine.

At this time, we are unable to provide detailed information on the new machines or the size of the coupons, but please expect an official announcement in the near future.

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let's wait for used S6/7 to be sold as new... and buy all the S5 at lower prices..

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Quote from: loshia on July 26, 2015, 12:49:52 PM

Quote from: lucky1974 on July 26, 2015, 06:05:58 PM

no need to lower the price if people are buying it anyway Wink

they would be stupid or something

and worth to mention is there is only 15 days warranty from shipping out on batch7 s5.. so thats probably like week warranty when u get miners Cheesy

So true

which leads us to the conclusion that buyers would be so so stupid Grin

basic economics of supply and demand. If you want to buy a miner, your options are currently quite limited.
It will not last long, though, if prices will go on the upswing.
NOT working (for parts or repair) SP20 has a $406.01 bid right now on ebay with 4 days to go.

really, I'm temped to put my non working S5 up there for bids to see what i get

. it works but when it wants to and only one blade the other blade is for sure dead, everything else works on it etc .

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Quote from: toptek on July 26, 2015, 05:09:01 PM

Quote from: aarons6 on July 26, 2015, 04:51:47 PM

Quote from: notlist3d on July 26, 2015, 08:28:20 AM

Quote from: notlist3d on July 26, 2015, 07:33:31 AM

Quote from: TheRealSteve on July 26, 2015, 07:27:02 AM

Looks like S5b7 shipping was pushed back a week, from July 29th to August 5th.

Biggest suprise reading it "[Second Hand] ANTMINER S5 BATCH 7" .... I just wonder what second hand really means.

When they ran a miner during a batch it was still described as new. Second hand... think it's coming from data centers wanting to unload whall it's still top product there?

What's everyone's guess?

im guessing its data centers that got first shot on the s7s and they had some trade in

selling the "used" s5s at full price is really shady..

That would do a good amount of gain of difficulty. Old gear goes to home user and data center got new gear, no gear comes offline.

Honestly this scenario scares the crap out of me. If they let the big customers with entire data centers sell back gear. It would make it where the hobby miner is one who is cheated.

Would also mean what ever is next the first X amount (huge amount) goes to the data centers they get these S5's from.

I just want this scenario to be wrong... but I'm afraid.

the net hash has been going up pretty steady over the last couple months.

also since people are still buying s5s its a win/win for bitmain to buy them back and sell them at full price..

it would make sense.

True, as long they keep saying second hand it's not moral but that's how it is in business being cut throat as it gets .

it does say Batch 7 wasn't batch five the last ones sold as new , so yea there coming from data centers in china some place Polly right off hash net, i wouldn't be a bit amazed if they have some S6/7 running on hash net .

Biggest suprise reading it "[Second Hand] ANTMINER S5 BATCH 7" .... I just wonder what second hand really means.

don't know but with a 15 day warr on it, not so sure i would want one . buying off eBay or Amazon used your better off not knowing WTF is up with that at least give 30 to 45 days .

honestly Wtf is up with bitmain did it change hands or some one come down on them to start being ass hole or mean .

Like the GOV in china . i mean they are in china and have to follow the laws and really can't tell us when there leaders get super greedy, so glad, I live were i do .

Come on now the picture is so clear there moving out old stock so they could move in the new s6 and s7 before they release it. and when they due they already made all that money from Antpool using s6 and s'7 and the sell out of all those S5's. Puts them in a perfect marketing position. There setting themselves Up first and fucking you guys up the ass at the same time. And you guys don't get it. then again.

I see that but why whats the Point in shooting the hand that feeds you.

i know it happens all the time that's greed and how it works but in the end it all comes back to you worse then what you dealt it out and you can't take it with you once your dead how i see it so,

why ? ....

owell i guess that's one question > I'll never get a good true full answer on because there is none .

they will be as im moral as they can now for no reason i was starting to like them.

Used S7 as new i see it coming etc i was hoping not i hope they prove us wrong not just me .

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Quote from: toptek on July 26, 2015, 05:09:01 PM

Quote from: aarons6 on July 26, 2015, 04:51:47 PM

Quote from: notlist3d on July 26, 2015, 08:28:20 AM

Quote from: notlist3d on July 26, 2015, 07:33:31 AM

Quote from: TheRealSteve on July 26, 2015, 07:27:02 AM

Looks like S5b7 shipping was pushed back a week, from July 29th to August 5th.

Biggest suprise reading it "[Second Hand] ANTMINER S5 BATCH 7" .... I just wonder what second hand really means.

When they ran a miner during a batch it was still described as new. Second hand... think it's coming from data centers wanting to unload whall it's still top product there?

What's everyone's guess?

im guessing its data centers that got first shot on the s7s and they had some trade in

selling the "used" s5s at full price is really shady..

That would do a good amount of gain of difficulty. Old gear goes to home user and data center got new gear, no gear comes offline.

Honestly this scenario scares the crap out of me. If they let the big customers with entire data centers sell back gear. It would make it where the hobby miner is one who is cheated.

Would also mean what ever is next the first X amount (huge amount) goes to the data centers they get these S5's from.

I just want this scenario to be wrong... but I'm afraid.

the net hash has been going up pretty steady over the last couple months.

also since people are still buying s5s its a win/win for bitmain to buy them back and sell them at full price..

it would make sense.

True, as long they keep saying second hand it's not moral but that's how it is in business being cut throat as it gets .

it does say Batch 7 wasn't batch five the last ones sold as new , so yea there coming from data centers in china some place Polly right off hash net, i wouldn't be a bit amazed if they have some S6/7 running on hash net .

Biggest suprise reading it "[Second Hand] ANTMINER S5 BATCH 7" .... I just wonder what second hand really means.

don't know but with a 15 day warr on it, not so sure i would want one . buying off eBay or Amazon used your better off not knowing WTF is up with that at least give 30 to 45 days .

honestly Wtf is up with bitmain did it change hands or some one come down on them to start being ass hole or mean .

Like the GOV in china . i mean they are in china and have to follow the laws and really can't tell us when there leaders get super greedy, so glad, I live were i do .

Come on now the picture is so clear there moving out old stock so they could move in the new s6 and s7 before they release it. and when they due they already made all that money from Antpool using s6 and s'7 and the sell out of all those S5's. Puts them in a perfect marketing position. There setting themselves Up first and fucking you guys up the ass at the same time. And you guys don't get it. then again.

toptek

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Quote from: aarons6 on July 26, 2015, 04:51:47 PM

Quote from: notlist3d on July 26, 2015, 08:28:20 AM

Quote from: notlist3d on July 26, 2015, 07:33:31 AM

Quote from: TheRealSteve on July 26, 2015, 07:27:02 AM

Looks like S5b7 shipping was pushed back a week, from July 29th to August 5th.

Biggest suprise reading it "[Second Hand] ANTMINER S5 BATCH 7" .... I just wonder what second hand really means.

When they ran a miner during a batch it was still described as new. Second hand... think it's coming from data centers wanting to unload whall it's still top product there?

What's everyone's guess?

im guessing its data centers that got first shot on the s7s and they had some trade in

selling the "used" s5s at full price is really shady..

That would do a good amount of gain of difficulty. Old gear goes to home user and data center got new gear, no gear comes offline.

Honestly this scenario scares the crap out of me. If they let the big customers with entire data centers sell back gear. It would make it where the hobby miner is one who is cheated.

Would also mean what ever is next the first X amount (huge amount) goes to the data centers they get these S5's from.

I just want this scenario to be wrong... but I'm afraid.

the net hash has been going up pretty steady over the last couple months.

also since people are still buying s5s its a win/win for bitmain to buy them back and sell them at full price..

it would make sense.

True, as long they keep saying second hand it's not moral but that's how it is in business being cut throat as it gets .

it does say Batch 7 wasn't batch five the last ones sold as new , so yea there coming from data centers in china some place Polly right off hash net, i wouldn't be a bit amazed if they have some S6/7 running on hash net .

Biggest suprise reading it "[Second Hand] ANTMINER S5 BATCH 7" .... I just wonder what second hand really means.

don't know but with a 15 day warr on it, not so sure i would want one . buying off eBay or Amazon used your better off not knowing WTF is up with that at least give 30 to 45 days .

honestly Wtf is up with bitmain did it change hands or some one come down on them to start being ass hole or mean .

Like the GOV in china . i mean they are in china and have to follow the laws and really can't tell us when there leaders get super greedy, so glad, I live were i do .

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Quote from: notlist3d on July 26, 2015, 08:28:20 AM

Quote from: notlist3d on July 26, 2015, 07:33:31 AM

Quote from: TheRealSteve on July 26, 2015, 07:27:02 AM

Looks like S5b7 shipping was pushed back a week, from July 29th to August 5th.

Biggest suprise reading it "[Second Hand] ANTMINER S5 BATCH 7" .... I just wonder what second hand really means.

When they ran a miner during a batch it was still described as new. Second hand... think it's coming from data centers wanting to unload whall it's still top product there?

What's everyone's guess?

im guessing its data centers that got first shot on the s7s and they had some trade in

selling the "used" s5s at full price is really shady..

That would do a good amount of gain of difficulty. Old gear goes to home user and data center got new gear, no gear comes offline.

Honestly this scenario scares the crap out of me. If they let the big customers with entire data centers sell back gear. It would make it where the hobby miner is one who is cheated.

Would also mean what ever is next the first X amount (huge amount) goes to the data centers they get these S5's from.

I just want this scenario to be wrong... but I'm afraid.

the net hash has been going up pretty steady over the last couple months.

also since people are still buying s5s its a win/win for bitmain to buy them back and sell them at full price..

it would make sense.

loshia

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Quote from: Biodom on July 26, 2015, 12:58:05 PM

Quote from: loshia on July 26, 2015, 12:49:52 PM

Quote from: loshia on July 26, 2015, 12:49:52 PM

no need to lower the price if people are buying it anyway Wink

they would be stupid or something

and worth to mention is there is only 15 days warranty from shipping out on batch7 s5.. so thats probably like week warranty when u get miners Cheesy

So true

which leads us to the conclusion that buyers would be so so stupid Grin

basic economics of supply and demand. If you want to buy a miner, your options are currently quite limited.
It will not last long, though, if prices will go on the upswing.
NOT working (for parts or repair) SP20 has a $406.01 bid right now on ebay with 4 days to go.

I know . And you are right of course. But my life does not depend on it. It is not a life saver medicine. Same applies for sall called "demand". But if demand squeezes bitmain to sale so hard he would not mind to make good money again Grin

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no need to lower the price if people are buying it anyway Wink

they would be stupid or something

and worth to mention is there is only 15 days warranty from shipping out on batch7 s5.. so thats probably like week warranty when u get miners Cheesy

So true

which leads us to the conclusion that buyers would be so so stupid Grin

basic economics of supply and demand. If you want to buy a miner, your options are currently quite limited.
It will not last long, though, if prices will go on the upswing.
NOT working (for parts or repair) SP20 has a $406.01 bid right now on ebay with 4 days to go.

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