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October 28, 2017, 10:08:37 AM
You cant be serious? ETH profitability has been about as badish for months, dropping rapidly after june 13. Monero instead is still the best for gpu mining. Even if you would need to pay 500€ per V56 versus 300€ to RX580. You can make a dollar per RX580 in a day (120W) versus vega +2,5$ per day (150W).
ROI 1+ year. F**k this shit. Monero can be mined with good profit only on botnets.
newbie
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October 28, 2017, 09:50:35 AM
What’s the general consensus on building a new Vega rig @ today’s rates? (Card price vs earnings)
Yes no wait never  Huh

Never say never, but currently IMO price/hashrate ratio isn't in favour of vega. RX 470/480/570/580 gives better results.

From pm discussions    4 vega 56's  can be had for about 1700-1800 usd  put in with a ryzen 1700  and a proper mobo.

Build is about 2200.   it will do 8000-8500 for cryptonight/monero  under 700 watts.  so roi is under a year.

how good is that? I am not sure.  What I don't like is  if xmr tanks  the card does not have a lot of value.

Don't forget that vega's doing 44 mh/s eth @ 150W, what other cards can do this?

On another note... Did anyone tried Myriad-Groestl? How is Vega performing on that algo?
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October 28, 2017, 09:22:05 AM
I'm having problems with the script. The manual disable/enable works fine.

output of script:
C:\Users\monero\Desktop>devcon.exe disable "PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F"
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F&SUBSYS_0B361002&REV_C3\6&2AF6ADFE&0&000000E6: Disable failed
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F&SUBSYS_0B361002&REV_C3\6&2C451A81&0&000000E0: Disable failed
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F&SUBSYS_0B361002&REV_C3\6&21DB5B6B&0&00000008: Disable failed
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F&SUBSYS_0B361002&REV_C3\6&9C9E801&0&000000EB: Disable failed
No matching devices found.

C:\Users\monero\Desktop>timeout /t 5

Obviously it found 4 Cards but was not able to disable it?
I'm on build 1703 and I downloaded devcon.exe the following way:
https[Suspicious link removed]

Thanks for your awesome contribution Mythic


Did you run it as admin?
I right clicked the batch file and run it as admin, yes.
Anything else I couldve missed?
newbie
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October 28, 2017, 09:20:30 AM
I'm having problems with the script. The manual disable/enable works fine.

output of script:
C:\Users\monero\Desktop>devcon.exe disable "PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F"
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F&SUBSYS_0B361002&REV_C3\6&2AF6ADFE&0&000000E6: Disable failed
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F&SUBSYS_0B361002&REV_C3\6&2C451A81&0&000000E0: Disable failed
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F&SUBSYS_0B361002&REV_C3\6&21DB5B6B&0&00000008: Disable failed
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F&SUBSYS_0B361002&REV_C3\6&9C9E801&0&000000EB: Disable failed
No matching devices found.

C:\Users\monero\Desktop>timeout /t 5

Obviously it found 4 Cards but was not able to disable it?
I'm on build 1703 and I downloaded devcon.exe the following way:
https[Suspicious link removed]

Thanks for your awesome contribution Mythic


Did you run it as admin?
jr. member
Activity: 88
Merit: 1
October 28, 2017, 09:10:57 AM
I'm having problems with the script. The manual disable/enable works fine.

output of script:
C:\Users\monero\Desktop>devcon.exe disable "PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F"
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F&SUBSYS_0B361002&REV_C3\6&2AF6ADFE&0&000000E6: Disable failed
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F&SUBSYS_0B361002&REV_C3\6&2C451A81&0&000000E0: Disable failed
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F&SUBSYS_0B361002&REV_C3\6&21DB5B6B&0&00000008: Disable failed
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F&SUBSYS_0B361002&REV_C3\6&9C9E801&0&000000EB: Disable failed
No matching devices found.

C:\Users\monero\Desktop>timeout /t 5

Obviously it found 4 Cards but was not able to disable it?
I'm on build 1703 and I downloaded devcon.exe the following way:
https[Suspicious link removed]

Thanks for your awesome contribution Mythic
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
October 28, 2017, 08:50:09 AM
What’s the general consensus on building a new Vega rig @ today’s rates? (Card price vs earnings)
Yes no wait never  Huh

Never say never, but currently IMO price/hashrate ratio isn't in favour of vega. RX 470/480/570/580 gives better results.

From pm discussions    4 vega 56's  can be had for about 1700-1800 usd  put in with a ryzen 1700  and a proper mobo.

Build is about 2200.   it will do 8000-8500 for cryptonight/monero  under 700 watts.  so roi is under a year.

how good is that? I am not sure.  What I don't like is  if xmr tanks  the card does not have a lot of value.
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October 28, 2017, 07:48:24 AM
This is correct by you don't want to disable the iGPU on rigs that use it (like mine).
You can instead call
Code:
devcon.exe disable "PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F"
timeout /t 2
devcon.exe enable "PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F"
This is enable/disable ALL devices that match the prefix.

Just my 2p Smiley

Even better! I disable the iGPU on all of my systems, so I wasn't really thinking about that. Can anyone confirm whether the vendor defined identifier (DEV_687F) is the same for all the Vega variants (V56, V64, V64L)?

These are Vega 56 from Sapphire.

You can push the wirldcard a little more, by using just PCI\VEN_1002. This will disable all AMD adapters.
I'm using devcon.exe from Windows 10 1607 (not sure if older versions have this wildcard functionality).
newbie
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October 28, 2017, 07:16:00 AM
What’s the general consensus on building a new Vega rig @ today’s rates? (Card price vs earnings)
Yes no wait never  Huh

Never say never, but currently IMO price/hashrate ratio isn't in favour of vega. RX 470/480/570/580 gives better results.

You cant be serious? ETH profitability has been about as badish for months, dropping rapidly after june 13. Monero instead is still the best for gpu mining. Even if you would need to pay 500€ per V56 versus 300€ to RX580. You can make a dollar per RX580 in a day (120W) versus vega +2,5$ per day (150W).
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October 28, 2017, 07:11:38 AM
Hi guys,

Just a small question :

I have an issue using 3 Vega 56 on my MSI z170 pro gaming carbon.

Just 2 are showing, do you know the right bios configuration to get 3 and more to work ? (i think is bios related)

Thx in advance

Dexx
newbie
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October 28, 2017, 05:47:35 AM
This is correct by you don't want to disable the iGPU on rigs that use it (like mine).
You can instead call
Code:
devcon.exe disable "PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F"
timeout /t 2
devcon.exe enable "PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F"
This is enable/disable ALL devices that match the prefix.

Just my 2p Smiley

Even better! I disable the iGPU on all of my systems, so I wasn't really thinking about that. Can anyone confirm whether the vendor defined identifier (DEV_687F) is the same for all the Vega variants (V56, V64, V64L)?
newbie
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October 28, 2017, 05:40:02 AM
anyone have tested more than 8 vega under windows?
jr. member
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October 28, 2017, 05:37:21 AM
What’s the general consensus on building a new Vega rig @ today’s rates? (Card price vs earnings)
Yes no wait never  Huh

Never say never, but currently IMO price/hashrate ratio isn't in favour of vega. RX 470/480/570/580 gives better results.

even for monero?

Monero does only work with Windows on Vega if i'm correct, so no love for Linux Rigs. Windows is to much work for me, wait till Vega works with Linux like with Windows.
(Driver Issues?)
sr. member
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October 28, 2017, 05:25:32 AM
What’s the general consensus on building a new Vega rig @ today’s rates? (Card price vs earnings)
Yes no wait never  Huh

Never say never, but currently IMO price/hashrate ratio isn't in favour of vega. RX 470/480/570/580 gives better results.

even for monero?
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October 28, 2017, 05:14:01 AM

Thanks for your contribution Mythic - just tested with my Vega 64 and your solution works great. I've tweaked your automation a little further to disable and enable all Radeon cards in a rig at startup - see below for my contribution (note: this doesn't have code to execute xmr-stak-amd or overdriventool as those are straight forward commands and can be added to the end. If I have some time I might just add some parameters at the top for ease of editing and add some error handling to idiot proof the whole process):

Code:
@echo on
set currentdir=%cd%
cd C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\10\Tools\x64
devcon findall * | findstr Radeon > %currentdir%\radeoncards.txt
for /F "tokens=1 delims=:" %%a in (%currentdir%\radeoncards.txt) do (
devcon disable "@%%a"
timeout /t 15
devcon enable "@%%a"
timeout /t 15
)
del %currentdir%\radeoncards.txt
cd %currentdir%

After reading the documentation for devcon, I've found that you can actually just do

Code:
cd %~dp0
timeout /t 5
devcon.exe disable =Display
timeout /t 5
devcon.exe enable =Display

Where devcon.exe is placed in the same folder as the batch file. This ought to simplify things a bit.
This is correct by you don't want to disable the iGPU on rigs that use it (like mine).
You can instead call
Code:
devcon.exe disable "PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F"
timeout /t 2
devcon.exe enable "PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_687F"
This is enable/disable ALL devices that match the prefix.

Just my 2p Smiley
sr. member
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October 28, 2017, 03:40:32 AM
What’s the general consensus on building a new Vega rig @ today’s rates? (Card price vs earnings)
Yes no wait never  Huh

Never say never, but currently IMO price/hashrate ratio isn't in favour of vega. RX 470/480/570/580 gives better results.
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October 28, 2017, 02:34:32 AM
What’s the general consensus on building a new Vega rig @ today’s rates? (Card price vs earnings)
Yes no wait never  Huh
newbie
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October 28, 2017, 12:57:00 AM

Thanks for your contribution Mythic - just tested with my Vega 64 and your solution works great. I've tweaked your automation a little further to disable and enable all Radeon cards in a rig at startup - see below for my contribution (note: this doesn't have code to execute xmr-stak-amd or overdriventool as those are straight forward commands and can be added to the end. If I have some time I might just add some parameters at the top for ease of editing and add some error handling to idiot proof the whole process):

Code:
@echo on
set currentdir=%cd%
cd C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\10\Tools\x64
devcon findall * | findstr Radeon > %currentdir%\radeoncards.txt
for /F "tokens=1 delims=:" %%a in (%currentdir%\radeoncards.txt) do (
devcon disable "@%%a"
timeout /t 15
devcon enable "@%%a"
timeout /t 15
)
del %currentdir%\radeoncards.txt
cd %currentdir%

After reading the documentation for devcon, I've found that you can actually just do

Code:
cd %~dp0
timeout /t 5
devcon.exe disable =Display
timeout /t 5
devcon.exe enable =Display

Where devcon.exe is placed in the same folder as the batch file. This ought to simplify things a bit.
newbie
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October 28, 2017, 12:54:04 AM
Disable-enable method works well but my hashrate drops in few minutes to 11500H/s to ~9500H/s for the 6*vega56@64 rig.
Any idea?

And thank you for the information.
Try to get your temps lower. Mine stay stable at around ~60C but some start throttling at ~65C.
newbie
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October 27, 2017, 11:30:48 PM
Is OverdriveNTool working good? There has been reports, that changing values with it doesn't really do much (same as Wattmann). But I guess it has been updated and working fine since then?

OverdriveNTool is working fine for me, but I basically only use it to adjust voltages. I use the registry mod for GPU and MEM clocks.

I can run the batch file as admin manually, and it works great.

When I run it in my startup folder it doesn't run as admin and doesn't work.

How are you getting it to run on startup as admin?

Use the task scheduler to execute your batch file at startup. See here: https://superuser.com/a/929227

Thanks for your contribution Mythic - just tested with my Vega 64 and your solution works great. I've tweaked your automation a little further to disable and enable all Radeon cards in a rig at startup - see below for my contribution (note: this doesn't have code to execute xmr-stak-amd or overdriventool as those are straight forward commands and can be added to the end. If I have some time I might just add some parameters at the top for ease of editing and add some error handling to idiot proof the whole process):

Code:
@echo on
set currentdir=%cd%
cd C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\10\Tools\x64
devcon findall * | findstr Radeon > %currentdir%\radeoncards.txt
for /F "tokens=1 delims=:" %%a in (%currentdir%\radeoncards.txt) do (
devcon disable "@%%a"
timeout /t 15
devcon enable "@%%a"
timeout /t 15
)
del %currentdir%\radeoncards.txt
cd %currentdir%
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October 27, 2017, 10:43:23 PM
Disable-enable method works well but my hashrate drops in few minutes to 11500H/s to ~9500H/s for the 6*vega56@64 rig.
Any idea?

And thank you for the information.

Check your power options in control panel and make sure it won't sleep.
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