Topic: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? - page 27. (Read 6614 times)

That's what I'm thinking, honestly speaking. Or maybe dude is just finding out what a successful gambler means through the opinions that the community will give here in the section he made. Maybe it's being responsible in gambling; maybe not all responsible gamblers have experienced big gambling wins, but they know there are limits to themselves.

Because there are other gamblers that I have read in articles before here on the forum who did get jackpots of millions but ended up losing their winnings because they were not careful in their decisions. Because they had an addiction, they could not control it properly, so they just wasted their gambling jackpot.

I love how simplified you stated your points and you gave me a second thought on addiction but I also want to know if there is actually a difference  between loving what you do and getting addicted?
Addiction in this case is a situation where despite consistently making significant losses but still keeps gambling beyond odds and even goes to the extent of selling their properties just to satisfy their urge to gambling despite making severe losses.
Just like your friend, he might be successful depending on what his gambling goals are but the moment the losses gets massive and the quest to wanting to recover your losses is one of the greatest leading route to addiction,  no wonder it is always advised only use money we can afford to loss.

I think gambling is very different from each other. Among my friends there is a professional poker player who has won a lot of money in professional tournaments, and he does not look like a check addiction.
He is always very cold and calculating, while the other side of gambling, for example, say, a casino or sports betting can cause great dependence, even if a person wins a lot in them.

Addiction is not necessary when a person spends all his money, for example, addiction can appear in the fact that a person spends all his time and attention on this activity completely forgetting about his family and his responsibilities.

In my opinion in gambling can not be successful all the time because the level of success in this area depends very much on a factor beyond our control - luck. Luck can not be improved in any way, unlike the skill of the game. Therefore, for me personally still remains open the question of what gambler can still be considered successful. And in my understanding it is a gambler who has learned to control himself and play gambling without bringing problems to themselves and their loved ones.

If it is partly true, the players who are more experts usually have a different type of vision regarding the game, their years of experience do not pass in vain, everything they have done is because it has cost them a lot of effort, dedication and a lot of money, then that is also worth it and it is recognized, of course, one more thing, because you already know how to play, how to bet, when you can bet hard, when you should stop, when you should bet more, you know when retire, he knows that he has much more control over his money, he is not going to fall into any type of addiction, because basically when it comes to gambling he knows them very well, so he would not have to fall into addiction when he really knows that the effects of They are catastrophic, it is not worth it, because they know that they are going to lose a lot of money, and with that alone, if they do not fall, it is obvious, it is very different when a normal person plays or a novice enters a casino, because things for For a rookie or anyone who moves differently, this is basically the only thing that can distinguish a rookie player.

For an expert player, it can be considered that if he is a successful player, if every time he plays he wins, and if not, he loses little, that is what I call a successful player, I basically measure him by the amount of money he does not lose, that in readliad you should never lose, so in this order of ideas the bears dream of developing like this, it is not just for a game, for everyone they must have enough perseverance to decide at what time they should not enter, at what time they should not enter, and When to enter because they know that they can win and not lose, sometimes intuition is used a lot in players, and since all this is basically pure luck, well sometimes things work out like this, of course this is what I imagine a successful player thinks, In addition , a successful player throughout his life must have good control of money.

I have previously said what I want to say, but maybe I need to repeat it to clarify what the OP wrote.

sometimes we definitely have to really think about what it means to be a successful gambler. successful in getting a very big win? or can success always win (impossible)? or gamblers who own their own gambling companies. I still have a lot to think about but these are just a few questions that are in my mind and sometimes someone misunderstands a successful gambler and for me a successful gambler just stops gambling and has his own gambling company. because if you only succeed in getting a big win, it will definitely only be once in your life as you said.

so there are many meanings of a successful gambler, but it all comes down to each individual thoughts and what is certain for me is that a successful gambler is a gambler who is able to fight himself not to keep betting.

Exactly, and it is because the Statistics do not favor the Players, because at All times Things will be favorable to the casino and not to a particular player, I personally think that when we do certain Things to be able to take advantage of what we have and what We Let's not say , for me, a player is considered successful only when he is a fairly profitable person in a casino , but that is a bit difficult to achieve , he will say Almost impossible , only some have Achieved it , and the Truth is not I know how they have done it, I imagine that they are people who have a lot of purchasing power, but personally I consider that a person is Successful in the game when he Wins Enough and remains at a high level above others, others may consider a successful person to those who know how to play , but you can know well how to play, but it is much better to win when you play, you could Spend 10-5 years playing in a casino, but you must consider that things can be quite Obvious that a player A failure is one who spends more than normal, and is also a player who is Addicted.

Addiction is what I consider the greatest of all failures of a player, because he let himself be carried away by impulses, emotions, he did not know how to get in at the right moment, he got into trouble for having a problem with the game , and he is a Person who I shouldn't have been in that situation, however not all of us are perfect, and that is why this thread is very important here, it is good for all players who are especially newbies, with problems in the game to read it so that they can motivate themselves , that some give advice being experts, that you don't win all the time, but that if you know what to do at certain times, that is the important thing, now when we put it on a Balance , for me that Means being a successful player, to be quite reborn, there is no other reason why I see that it could be called Successful, of course Regardless of the Opinions of Others.

An addict will exhibit some form of characteristics that makes it obvious that they mental well being is at stake from the kind on decisions they make at that point because anyone who is not under the influence of addiction will not want to sell his house just to gamble or go take a lone to gamble with without any form of attempt to salvage the situation which is becoming uncontrollably addicted.


But a regular no matter how active may be on gambling,  he will still have limits and operates under strick rules thay he do set out before starting his gambling journey,  so there is indeed a wide difference between an addicts and a active gambler

Honestly, I don't really understand what "successful gambler" means, as we know that success is usually when someone manages to achieve their goals by going through all the very difficult processes, whereas in gambling there is no peak to achieve as the meaning of success. But well maybe I'll add that what is meant by this context is that they are "gamblers who are successful in managing everything in their gambling". Basically this statement I think depends on each person's perspective on gambling. But yes this time I will follow you, as you said that "successful gamblers are those who can manage it", this is very exactly my perspective above and the reason.

Well exactly, even though they for example have won but I think this is not the end of success, I will not completely say that they have succeeded, but see what will happen next. I think it's very clear and usually the feeling of greed will arise in them, they want to get more and eventually the situation turns around and lose. That's why I say don't overlook gambling, it's not a place to make money but just a place to test your luck, nothing more than that. Understand if you want to survive, that's all.

I've discussed this here on the forum in various instances and topics, gambling addiction is more than the negative aspect, people often tend to disregard the positive ones since they are not harmful and prosperous, and will be a thing of joy if one progresses in it. The gambling of successful gamblers is an example of this, they will always be happy doing it and I believe that people will continue to encourage them to do it as well since it is all positive and will not have any negative impact on their financial and mental health whatsoever.

There is a big difference between an addicted gambler and general gambler that you say manifests their addiction in behavioral patterns. An addicted gambler is bound less it is hard to stop them. If he is forbidden, he cannot obey that prohibition. He can't be normal if he can't play gambling. Addicted gamblers have a variety of behavioral problems that are different from general gamblers who engage in deliberate gambling or consider it a center of fun. Succeeding in gambling is a very difficult task which cannot be achieved by an addicted gambler. We can never call successful gambling addicts because they gamble with a goal to succeed and those who have goals cannot become addicts.

It is really difficult to say exactly because except successful gamblers new gamblers can become successful once but here is to control yourself. After being successful in gambling if the greed does not work in them then do not fall into addiction. A successful gambler can control everything properly after the victory they do not bet to get more rest for a few days before moving on. A person can be successful not only in gambling but also in other fields. Successful gamblers are not limited to one area they are knowledgeable about all areas.

when people hear the term "addict," they immediately think of someone spiraling out of control, right? But there are indeed gamblers who are successful, disciplined, and not necessarily "addicts" in the traditional sense. These folks have managed to turn gambling into a sort of craft, treating it like a job, where they invest time in research, strategy, and responsible betting. You can call them "professional gamblers" if "addict" doesnt sit right.

However, if someone spends most of their time, say reading books, are they book addicts? Does passion automatically label someone an addict? Food for thought. Its crucial to differentiate between harmful addiction and professional practice. They might look similar, but the mindset and outcomes are totally different.

     -   What kind of successful gambler are you talking about, mate? Are these the gamblers who got jackpot prizes in casinos? Aren't there other people who have played gambling who didn't really have a habit of gambling? But the one time he played, he suddenly won the jackpot prize, which became the reason for his sudden wealth.

So in a situation like this, it's not really a gambling addiction; the person just got really lucky. Oh, maybe you're referring to a few years of betting on the lottery, although it's a type of gambling that can be considered, but you can suddenly get rich effortlessly because of the luck you can experience. Is that what you mean?

I agree with both of you. And yes, an addict will more often harm himself and other people around him because he will not see that what he is doing can also have a bad influence. And a gambling addict may have a bad influence on his environment, especially his family because he can become more emotional, especially when he doesn't have money to gamble. But that won't happen to a successful gambler because even though he is also a gambling addict, he can separate himself so he doesn't lose control of gambling and can still make money from gambling. This is different from most gamblers, who will only experience gambling addiction without being able to control themselves well. Rather than experiencing a gambling addiction where we are not successful gamblers, we should gamble moderately so that we will not experience any problems that could harm us and our families.

We really have to separate an addict from a hobby or habit. Addicts are more suited to behavior that harms themselves and even others around them. We can also consider excessive activity as an addiction. those who lose track of time get angry when told to stop.
Those who have control over what they do themselves and also know when to quit and when to continue playing cannot be called addicts.

In gambling, we can see how gambling addicts cannot be responsible for the decisions they make themselves.

I would not categorize successful gamblers as people who are addicted to gambling, but in my opinion successful gamblers are those who can manage their finances and are able to control their emotions.
Usually, most of the gambling addicts we meet will not be able to achieve success because if they have won a big win they will definitely place another bigger bet, thinking that by increasing the bet amount they will get a bigger win, but in fact they will end up losing . So we rarely see gambling addicts who are successful due to these factors.

It makes gamblers feel comfortable with all the services from the casino so that they will return to gambling and continue playing the previous game. But they should still be able to rest after the previous game so that their emotions can subside and they are ready to play in the next round. If they force themselves to gamble again when their emotions have not really decreased, it will only make them want to chase another win. But this will not happen to successful gamblers because after they win and get money, they will rest, and after they have had enough, they will completely stop gambling and leave the casino.

This depends. Yeah old school casino wants player that winning big to stay longer for a chance to be lose for playing longer but the situation change now since gambler is evolving too and there’s type of games which a gambler can take advantage with a good analysis skills such as sports betting.

The best example is the recent hot topic here about Dana White being restricted to gamble on some casino due to his frequent big win. Casino preferred to kick out the player that giving them losses instead of staying him longer to play. Restricting players that win frequently is the new way of casino ti avoid losses and focus on players that contributes more.