Topic: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? - page 25. (Read 6617 times)

Well, I see your point that those who are successful in gambling can also be said to be addicts because they put in the time and effort to be successful.

For me, the pro is different from the addict, the pro is the one who has a lot of control over himself and the time they spend gambling, they also record wins and losses so they can see and review it. In short they are more skilled when it comes to gambling.

These addicts are the ones who have a hard time stopping their gambling, they are the ones who will never stop gambling even if they are losing money or in debt. People who have no control over themselves, emotions, etc. when it comes to gambling, as long as they can gamble. They are not in their right mind.

I see where you're coming from, but I must insist more strongly on that point. Isnt it interesting how readily society categorizes gamblers as addicts, particularly in the early stages of their entanglement with the game? Your differentiation between a "pro" and a "addict" is crucial. You emphasized discipline, which is a quality of a pro. They thoroughly analyze the rules of the game, plan their moves, and take calculated risks. Its past time we began to see it as a skill set and a well-honed craft.

On the other side, addicts are completely engrossed in the game. The compulsion is what matters, not the plan or the victories. Unfortunately, this urge frequently has disastrous results. What distinguishes one from the other, then? It is a discipline. But the truth is, cultural conceptions are steadfast. Though its a widespread fallacy, calling professionals addicted doesnt make it true. Lets question it, contest it, and contribute a nuanced viewpoint to the discussion.

I would disgaree. I mean I think almost every gambler atleast once in their lives, have been called an addict especially during their starting days where there dedicate time and effort in gambling. But personally, I would rather call a successful gambler a “pro” rather than an addict. For me, a successful gambler, aside from accumulating a lot of winnings from gambling, they are also able to become discipline in their gambling habits. That discipline is what makes them successful in the first place, I believe. On the other hand, addicts would be people who cant control their gambling habits that it cause them problems, right? I may be wrong but that doesnt mean that succesful gamblers are automatically addicts.

Chasing after the jackpot is the same as chasing after money, and like we all know, when money is the priority in gambling, such gambler stands a very high chance of becoming addicted if he or she does not or fail to watch and monitor his or her gambling habits, so as to know when he or she is doing it excessively and possibly cut him or herself off.

Gambling is mainly one of the ways to just relax and have fun; any gambler seeking money through gambling is already abusing the original purpose of gambling, and i believe we all know the side effects of every abuse, it means we either stand a chance of losing money we never had any plans of losing, or we get addicted due to too much engagement in that thing, in this case, gambling, or even both.

Chances that they already overcome that heavy addiction and learn from that experience are their key tool to sustain their position.

Not easy for it is, but in some cases, there are experienced gamblers who can really do limit themselves and able to sustain the amount of money
and time that they setup for their gambling activities and still continue enjoying or making some decent amount of profits.

It's a call that not most gambler can take, a good emotional and financial control that gives them an edge over other gambler and the casino facilitators.

But that only makes you addicted and, in the worst case, suffers from great loss. As you said, the ration can be 1000 bets per luck. The word "luck" implies that we will never know when it will come, so it has either a good or bad impact. Relying on gambling to become successful is not a good idea. Maybe some people become rich because of gambling, like Lotto, but that doesn't mean it will apply to everyone else. Based on my research, there are more people who become poorer or richer than others because of gambling. Yes, because of addiction, and what factor leads them to addiction—simply hoping to become rich or just for a hobby? So I think "successful" and "addict" are not good things to be together. Why? Addictions mean bad. Even if you've gained a fortune in gambling and still gamble excessively, there's still a chance that you will get back what you've started or worse, become worse.

Some of them I think has this addiction thing but some may have the ability to be a profitable gambler or might have the higher chance of luck. If you bet once and then become successful then that is 100% pure luck. Ratio could be 1000bets/1luck so we need more bets to become successful in gambling therefore if we keep on chasing the jackpot I think it might lead us to addiction.

That's why there are always many gamblers who show success stories of their wins even though they hide many stories of their failures compared to their successes or wins. Things like this are usually done by gamblers who take advantage of the situation to attract novice users to become their referrals and then follow them to gamble and finally add to the list of many gamblers who failed and become an addict because of such people. not much different from influencers and streamers.

Most gamblers often cover up their negative experiences because in order to gain attraction and interest from new users that winning is actually easy to get by gambling at a casino even though that is not true as people see because most successful gamblers don't exist either, in fact there are is just an influencer and streamer who collaborates with casinos to show big wins to everyone and never shows the losses he experiences. nothing more than just marketing

Successful gamblers could really be into those players who had really be that able to make that profitable towards gambling. For sure these fellas had already past up with that addiction because if we do speak about addiction then you are that someone who cant really be able to control yourself until you would really be messing up with your financial situation and on the time that you had get rid
or able to recover from addiction then this is where you would really be making yourself wary about gambling addiction and on the next then you do already have the idea on what you should gonna do.
Therefore, there are chance that you might be able to sustain or survive the riskiness of gambling and would really be that knowledgeable on what are the things should be done but still
you should really be removing into your mind about those risks of losing yet gambling do always matter with luck.

If anything the evidence clearly points out to the opposite trend, gamblers in general will be very eager to tell you their success stories in which everything happened exactly in the way they wanted.

But if you were to ask them about their negative experiences a great deal of them will remain silent, this means that winning seems way more likely than what it is, which causes other people to think that becoming profitable is in fact possible and they get surprised to find out this is not really the case.

I go with that last statement being ahead of the casino is something that rarely happen, both good control with emotions and
knowledge with the game you pick, not just basic but advance that really give that huge edge.

Also true, that there are gamblers who are sharing their big wins but not the amount that they already lose with their gambling activities.

Most of the time, stopping when you are both enjoying and winning is the way to lose everything back and make you regret after.

I have said many times that a successful player is measured by what I can have won, this is something that can be deciphered for me as a successful player, for some things can be successful from the point of view that they can make a game Better , know how to play and success can be measured like this, but basically for me it is success when it is Measured by being very profitable, which is quite difficult, I think that out of 100% of players only 1% or less They are the ones that can be profitable, so basically it is the most difficult thing that can be done, I consider that things can be like that, of course I consider a person who has more money in the game to be successful, a long time ago I read that there was a person who Recently , I always win at the casino, they spend the whole day almost there and they can do many other things, so based on what they can achieve I know that it is very difficult to take this and be profitable, because if they tell me so I couldn't be it , My way of being relatable is something else.

For me, things when it comes to how to be able to have rebirth are something great, but for me personally, the strategy is very Rudimentary, it is very basic and it may not be a problem for anyone, but it is the safest Technique there is. in a casino and I extracted that from my trading strategy, and it is normal, it is like seeing the casino and trading as if we had a business, where each entry is a profit, it is about obtaining profits and about doing it safely, not It doesn't matter how little it is, but little by little and every day, it's like a business, because I think that in a casino if you don't have control of the money and don't take care of it, then in the casino you can lose almost everything, and that It is not the right thing to do, for me things have to happen naturally, for that reason one always has to make arrangements and try to ensure that the money does not go away all at once, but rather try to ensure that things are for the better and Don't Expect everything to go Away at once, money in a Casino can be very volatile.

The main issue with anecdotes like that is that most people will happily share their big wins, but will never make their big or even medium or small loses public.

The most probable scenario of someone that made a big win is that they have put even more money into the casino in the long term.

Being ahead of the casino is extremely rare, and stopping forever after that is even more rare.

It comes down to what people would consider as being successful. I’ve come across a good number of people who, over the years has had some big wins. Having won substantial amounts overtime that would make losses look insignificant, I would consider them successful in gambling.

Obviously, the number of people considered successful are very small compared to the rest. But I think a lot of people who would be considered successful do not always make their winnings and losses public as it’s more or less a personal issue.

Stories of huge wins won by an average player, can be very motivating for others.

I think the term would be correct.

In a similar way, we have the term "high-functioning alcoholic", which basically states the fact that even though the person can be seen as "successful", they also have an addiction.

The same can apply to gambling. But I reckon there are very few, if any, addicted successful gamblers.

Besides I do not really think there is any way for an addicted gambler to become successful, since their addiction severely limits their ability to think and use their common sense.

If for example a gambler that was addicted to poker lost a big pot, instead of just waiting for good cards to come to them they will simply make big bets regardless of the strength of the cards they had, they will be left at a disadvantageous position and lose once again, and if you repeat this process a few times then the losses a poker player can suffer in a matter of minutes are enormous, showing it is almost impossible for an addicted gambler to actually become successful in a game of skill.

I guess there are people who are referred to as good and bad addict but which ever be the case no kind of addiction could be considered a good one, too much of anything can be consider bad.

If someone gambler and have made things out of gambling, those people can just call it a stop I know greed won’t allow them but ending it right there and reducing their gambling habit will be a good thing, because they might end up losing everything that they have mad and have ever build to gambling again if they don’t take time with it.
It’s good that they have mad good win from gambling and that is also an achievement as it’s not just the casinos which are meant to be profitable every time so gambling and making it out of it is good but should be stopped right away.

I think that the word addict implies when a job or hubby controls a  person, when the person persists in doing the same thing even when they're having loses and they don't know how to stop. It is different from being a professional who is in control and knows when to take a break or quit. So inasmuch as the gambler is a professional who knows when to take a break, stop and know when is the right time to come back and continue, tha gambler can not be classified as an addict. If a gambler who is successful in winnings and is also in charge of his emotions, that gambler is a  professional, not an addict.

No law says one must get to a level of becoming a gambling addict to become a successful gambler, But rather the level of your success is determined by the amount of effort, time, and dedication you put in. Success is all about doing the right thing and applying the right strategy, Boom you are there, and no magic about that, however, people have different stories to tell of their success in gambling, and some people can still be addicted at some point in their road to achieving success or becoming a successful gambler.

My story, I was addicted at some point but took caution and got myself out quickly, and those experiences contributed and got me to the level of positive results I have gotten so far.
 

The difference is clear between successful gamblers and addicted gamblers. As successful gamblers, they will not be easily tempted by whatever is offered because they have better self-control than other gamblers. Meanwhile, gamblers who are addicted to gambling only want to gamble and win, so they keep trying hard to win. Successful gamblers may have experienced gambling addiction before. But they are willing to admit it and want to change for the better so they actively practice self-control more than other gamblers. Finally, they can overcome their gambling addiction and become successful gamblers.