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October 01, 2023, 05:26:05 AM
I think successful gamblers are smart enough to handle such addictions. Otherwise gambler who can't afford to control their addicted mind, would end up by losing everything and can't be considered as successful anymore. Because addictions creates craving in a gambler mind and when he visit gambling sites, he can't stop gambling which make to force to stake on unnecessary games with high risky activity. professional gamblers also browse gambling sites all time but they afford to control their mind and only stake when perfect time comes
I think successful gamblers have indeed faced addiction at some point. The key difference is that they managed to overcome it and now have control over their gambling habits.
True, at the end of the day most gamblers that stream end up making their money in other things, like sponsors and things like that.

The actual gambling is usually not the actual source of income. It's a bit like selling shovels in the gold rush
You might be correct. Gambling experts may win certain games, but it's unlikely to be a sustainable source of income in the long term. Similar to famous athletes, they might monetize their reputation through sponsorships and endorsements.
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October 01, 2023, 04:33:06 AM
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They successfully combat their addiction and turn gambling as successful career since they market theirselves very well to the huge number of people that's why they are gaining supports and sponsorship that makes their gambling career alive.

That's why many choose to stream their gaming sessions since they want to gather millions of followers and gain attention from sponsors that can support them. Some may failed on this maybe they can't handle their losses and have proper financing but other excel especially those big gambling streamers since they are good on entertaining people and earning a lot of money from multiple ways. Lets forget about the cut but if we want to be successful on gambling maybe we should work to widen up our network since this is how we can slowly gain some fame and be known on this industry.

True, at the end of the day most gamblers that stream end up making their money in other things, like sponsors and things like that.

The actual gambling is usually not the actual source of income. It's a bit like selling shovels in the gold rush
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September 30, 2023, 03:39:40 AM
An addiction should have a negative impact in your life, if these professional gamblers are living their bsst lives gambling and their habits not really being a problem for them that it interferes with their life outside gambling, I think that we can just that they're not addicts but in a metaphorical perspective, they're an addict because they can't let go of their habit that is gambling which is a vice. So to answer the question, it depends on who you're asking. Also we have to remember that most professional gamblers play Blackjack or Poker and not those slots where the edge is heavily house favored.

Yeah, at the end of the day those professional gamblers might earn more money from the sponsors than what they earn gambling.

You might be able to be the lucky one that ends up with all the wins against your peers and therefore end up winning all the lucrative contracts with expensive brands.

But the casino always takes a cut from every bet, and they house always wins

They successfully combat their addiction and turn gambling as successful career since they market theirselves very well to the huge number of people that's why they are gaining supports and sponsorship that makes their gambling career alive.

That's why many choose to stream their gaming sessions since they want to gather millions of followers and gain attention from sponsors that can support them. Some may failed on this maybe they can't handle their losses and have proper financing but other excel especially those big gambling streamers since they are good on entertaining people and earning a lot of money from multiple ways. Lets forget about the cut but if we want to be successful on gambling maybe we should work to widen up our network since this is how we can slowly gain some fame and be known on this industry.
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September 30, 2023, 01:43:34 AM
An addiction should have a negative impact in your life, if these professional gamblers are living their bsst lives gambling and their habits not really being a problem for them that it interferes with their life outside gambling, I think that we can just that they're not addicts but in a metaphorical perspective, they're an addict because they can't let go of their habit that is gambling which is a vice. So to answer the question, it depends on who you're asking. Also we have to remember that most professional gamblers play Blackjack or Poker and not those slots where the edge is heavily house favored.

Yeah, at the end of the day those professional gamblers might earn more money from the sponsors than what they earn gambling.

You might be able to be the lucky one that ends up with all the wins against your peers and therefore end up winning all the lucrative contracts with expensive brands.

But the casino always takes a cut from every bet, and they house always wins
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September 29, 2023, 02:04:27 PM
successful gamblers does not necessarily need to be an addict, some might just have some bits of luck most times they gamble and maybe they win big and then it changes things for them. also some maybe regular player that has invested lots of time, energy and money and eventually they made some good money. well for this i personally wont see it as an addict because he is profitable with it and maybe he has it as a full time income source.  these two scenarios are not common, its just few of the majority of gamblers. Another thing to look at is how do these people perform in other areas of life, do they have family time, perform other activities, value relationships and more.
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September 29, 2023, 10:12:20 AM
I think successful gamblers are smart enough to handle such addictions. Otherwise gambler who can't afford to control their addicted mind, would end up by losing everything and can't be considered as successful anymore. Because addictions creates craving in a gambler mind and when he visit gambling sites, he can't stop gambling which make to force to stake on unnecessary games with high risky activity. professional gamblers also browse gambling sites all time but they afford to control their mind and only stake when perfect time comes
Successful gamblers can deal with gambling addiction because they already can prevent themselves from experiencing it. Successful gamblers are different from most gamblers because they will not be lured by anything offered to them. They know that once they break the rules, it can have fatal consequences for them, and it can cause them to become addicted to gambling. And when gambling addiction takes over, everything will end, and overcoming or curing gambling addiction will not be easy.
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September 28, 2023, 11:11:51 PM
An addiction should have a negative impact in your life, if these professional gamblers are living their bsst lives gambling and their habits not really being a problem for them that it interferes with their life outside gambling, I think that we can just that they're not addicts but in a metaphorical perspective, they're an addict because they can't let go of their habit that is gambling which is a vice. So to answer the question, it depends on who you're asking. Also we have to remember that most professional gamblers play Blackjack or Poker and not those slots where the edge is heavily house favored.
When determining whether a person is addicted to anything we cannot simply look at the time they use to enjoy the activity, we need way more than that, we need to know if they are compromising their financial future because of it? Are they disregarding their relationship with their family members? Are they putting their job or even their health at risk?

Only once we answer those kind of questions we will be able to tell if a person has some kind of addiction, and professional gamblers cannot really be said to be addicted as they do not really fulfill all the conditions that a person needs to have to be considered addicted to gambling.
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September 28, 2023, 06:55:45 PM
I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.
Time isn’t an accurate qualifier for addiction. Efforts might come a lot closer as per steps one is ready to take, what lengths one is ready to go to satisfy his or her gambling habits rather than the time being put in.
One can spend way much less time gambling and still be an addict. Why is that?
It’s because, it’s in the behavior. Addicts see gambling as a can’t do without! When your act that point that you feel you can’t go a day without gambling, then your truly an addict.

Being a successful gambler doesn’t make you an addict. Maybe you spend much time in the gambling house or online going through the games and taking some bets in between successfully, it doesn’t make you an addict. It simply means, your good at prediction and doing good with your predictions.
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September 28, 2023, 06:43:30 PM
I think successful gamblers are smart enough to handle such addictions. Otherwise gambler who can't afford to control their addicted mind, would end up by losing everything and can't be considered as successful anymore. Because addictions creates craving in a gambler mind and when he visit gambling sites, he can't stop gambling which make to force to stake on unnecessary games with high risky activity. professional gamblers also browse gambling sites all time but they afford to control their mind and only stake when perfect time comes
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September 28, 2023, 02:36:27 AM
Actually, these successful gamblers are not afraid of the risks they will face because they always strategize and analyze what they will play in the casino and they usually bet in large amounts and it is possible that they have speculated that they will be able to win the bet and of course they can double their money. easily because they are quite professional in this matter and they are not careless in placing bets so that they have the opportunity to win at the casino.
But for some reason it is very difficult to become a successful gambler because many of those who are addicted to gambling experience losses rather than success
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These successful gamblers are not afraid of the risks they will face because they can reduce the risks by gambling more carefully. In addition, they can see their chances of winning from the casino and if they do not see that the odds are good, they will not continue gambling but will decide to stop and not want to speculate too much. They are really calculating what they will take so they know how much risk they will accept. To become a successful gambler requires various things that we may not know what they are or how to learn them, so it seems difficult. Well, rather than experiencing difficulties, we should be ordinary gamblers who can enjoy gambling as entertainment. That's more than enough for us.
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September 27, 2023, 07:08:06 AM
While some can limit their gambling, the risks should never be ignored. I think successful gamblers set limitations and tactics to avoid addiction. They follow budgets. They know to leave because casinos always win. Gambling can be fun without spending too much, but it requires discipline. Personally, I believe in financial education to keep balance. Financial literacy and self-awareness can help gamblers be healthy. Knowing your limitations and sticking to them is key.
Successful gamblers always have different ways that they do to avoid excessive gambling. Moreover, he also has a lot of experience, which can help him recognize every moment to distance himself from problems that might arise. They know when they can go to the casino and start gambling and when to stop gambling so they will get out of the casino on time and have no problems. We have a lot to do and learn so that we can become successful gamblers and not experience gambling addiction or other problems.
Actually, these successful gamblers are not afraid of the risks they will face because they always strategize and analyze what they will play in the casino and they usually bet in large amounts and it is possible that they have speculated that they will be able to win the bet and of course they can double their money. easily because they are quite professional in this matter and they are not careless in placing bets so that they have the opportunity to win at the casino.
But for some reason it is very difficult to become a successful gambler because many of those who are addicted to gambling experience losses rather than success
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September 27, 2023, 03:59:59 AM
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Successful gamblers always have different ways that they do to avoid excessive gambling. Moreover, he also has a lot of experience, which can help him recognize every moment to distance himself from problems that might arise. They know when they can go to the casino and start gambling and when to stop gambling so they will get out of the casino on time and have no problems. We have a lot to do and learn so that we can become successful gamblers and not experience gambling addiction or other problems.

In reality there is no way to predict when you are going to win while gambling, so those successful gamblers are juat the lucky ones.
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September 27, 2023, 12:52:21 AM
While some can limit their gambling, the risks should never be ignored. I think successful gamblers set limitations and tactics to avoid addiction. They follow budgets. They know to leave because casinos always win. Gambling can be fun without spending too much, but it requires discipline. Personally, I believe in financial education to keep balance. Financial literacy and self-awareness can help gamblers be healthy. Knowing your limitations and sticking to them is key.
Successful gamblers always have different ways that they do to avoid excessive gambling. Moreover, he also has a lot of experience, which can help him recognize every moment to distance himself from problems that might arise. They know when they can go to the casino and start gambling and when to stop gambling so they will get out of the casino on time and have no problems. We have a lot to do and learn so that we can become successful gamblers and not experience gambling addiction or other problems.
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September 26, 2023, 06:07:37 AM
Well, they say you hear that doing any activity in excess is not good, all activities, and in the casino even more so because things are very likely to give people a lot of pleasure and they can lose control, some achieve addiction only in one star day in the casino, but I think this is not worthy of a successful player, perhaps a successful player could spend a lot of Time being in the Casino , but if it Gives good results and is there a lot of time, I think it is Something to consider , but taking into account that the casino when playing in the long term the results are favorable to the casino but not to the player because you can stop yourself from continuing in the activity, of course only so that you are a successful player, but there are successful players who can achieve any result as long as they play little and with quality, Intelligence and Decision, every day in the casino can be like that, but to get to that level you need a lot of Experience and to Have a lot of clarity in finances.

A person who really has a high Financial education knows how to play in a casino, because those things are what determine how a person can have fun with money, and a person who has great things like knowledge and good money Management , well There will be Problems having fun with the casino, but of course, healthily, spending money that I have available for fun, I don't see any other way that can be done to have good results, and a successful person in the casino, since they must have a financial education high, because knowing that the casino is high risk and yet it is still there, it must have a good strategy, then if a person is Successful, for me a Successful Person in a casino will Earn money, and his balance will be time is growing, that for me is a person who knows what he is doing, who knows what he wants and who does not allow himself to be carried away by emcoins so easily, because he has money committed and having it Committed is a delicate Operation.
Successful gamblers can make money and avoid gambling addiction by playing casinos because they have many things that can prevent them from problems arising from gambling. Gambling activities carried out by successful gamblers can make them enjoy their gambling time, especially since they can make money from gambling. But we must remember that successful gamblers are also human beings vulnerable to losing control of themselves when playing. But that is unlikely because successful gamblers can prevent bad things that may have happened to many gamblers. Successful gamblers also know they cannot always win from the casino because the casino will get more money from both gamblers who are addicted to gambling and successful gamblers, so successful gamblers prefer to gamble in moderation.

People who can manage their finances when gambling will not use their money excessively because they think that getting pleasure from gambling does not require much money. He can use enough money to get pleasure from gambling so that he doesn't have to face problems like other gamblers and can also avoid gambling addiction. And if they don't have a high level of financial education, they can also try to manage their money and allocate a sufficient amount of money for gambling. They also don't need to gamble every day like other people, especially if they have other activities that take up their time. They always maintain this commitment so they do not become addicted to gambling and can still get pleasure from gambling.
While some can limit their gambling, the risks should never be ignored. I think successful gamblers set limitations and tactics to avoid addiction. They follow budgets. They know to leave because casinos always win. Gambling can be fun without spending too much, but it requires discipline. Personally, I believe in financial education to keep balance. Financial literacy and self-awareness can help gamblers be healthy. Knowing your limitations and sticking to them is key.
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September 26, 2023, 01:41:42 AM
An addiction should have a negative impact in your life, if these professional gamblers are living their bsst lives gambling and their habits not really being a problem for them that it interferes with their life outside gambling, I think that we can just that they're not addicts but in a metaphorical perspective, they're an addict because they can't let go of their habit that is gambling which is a vice. So to answer the question, it depends on who you're asking. Also we have to remember that most professional gamblers play Blackjack or Poker and not those slots where the edge is heavily house favored.
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September 26, 2023, 01:29:18 AM
Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
A successful gambler follows strict rules and has practical strategies for winning, whereas an addict does not. Even though they have the common of losing sometimes, the addicted gambler doesn't know how to stop betting, and sometimes they bet even their houses, cars, properties, etc., until they become broke. I watched some of the vloggers on our local who I considered successful gamblers, these people have a set of rules in their mind that if they follow, they can earn a significant amount of money. It's fascinating to see how disciplined they are in their approach and how they never let their emotions get in the way of their decisions.
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September 26, 2023, 12:59:26 AM
Well, they say you hear that doing any activity in excess is not good, all activities, and in the casino even more so because things are very likely to give people a lot of pleasure and they can lose control, some achieve addiction only in one star day in the casino, but I think this is not worthy of a successful player, perhaps a successful player could spend a lot of Time being in the Casino , but if it Gives good results and is there a lot of time, I think it is Something to consider , but taking into account that the casino when playing in the long term the results are favorable to the casino but not to the player because you can stop yourself from continuing in the activity, of course only so that you are a successful player, but there are successful players who can achieve any result as long as they play little and with quality, Intelligence and Decision, every day in the casino can be like that, but to get to that level you need a lot of Experience and to Have a lot of clarity in finances.

A person who really has a high Financial education knows how to play in a casino, because those things are what determine how a person can have fun with money, and a person who has great things like knowledge and good money Management , well There will be Problems having fun with the casino, but of course, healthily, spending money that I have available for fun, I don't see any other way that can be done to have good results, and a successful person in the casino, since they must have a financial education high, because knowing that the casino is high risk and yet it is still there, it must have a good strategy, then if a person is Successful, for me a Successful Person in a casino will Earn money, and his balance will be time is growing, that for me is a person who knows what he is doing, who knows what he wants and who does not allow himself to be carried away by emcoins so easily, because he has money committed and having it Committed is a delicate Operation.
Successful gamblers can make money and avoid gambling addiction by playing casinos because they have many things that can prevent them from problems arising from gambling. Gambling activities carried out by successful gamblers can make them enjoy their gambling time, especially since they can make money from gambling. But we must remember that successful gamblers are also human beings vulnerable to losing control of themselves when playing. But that is unlikely because successful gamblers can prevent bad things that may have happened to many gamblers. Successful gamblers also know they cannot always win from the casino because the casino will get more money from both gamblers who are addicted to gambling and successful gamblers, so successful gamblers prefer to gamble in moderation.

People who can manage their finances when gambling will not use their money excessively because they think that getting pleasure from gambling does not require much money. He can use enough money to get pleasure from gambling so that he doesn't have to face problems like other gamblers and can also avoid gambling addiction. And if they don't have a high level of financial education, they can also try to manage their money and allocate a sufficient amount of money for gambling. They also don't need to gamble every day like other people, especially if they have other activities that take up their time. They always maintain this commitment so they do not become addicted to gambling and can still get pleasure from gambling.
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September 26, 2023, 12:18:27 AM
Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
In fact, he's not an addict at all. Despite dedicating a significant amount of time and energy to gambling, he maintains excellent control in every game. Gambling always favors those who can manage their emotions and finances effectively.

Some may still doubt that gambling can lead to success. But success doesn't always have to mean wealth, does it? Observing someone with a high win rate in gambling is also a form of success, right? However, those who profit significantly from the gambling industry as players are able to control their emotions and avoid becoming immersed in continuous gameplay. They truly exercise self-control, not allowing the casino to control them.

Well, I still want to know the answer: how are successful people in gambling defined? Someone who wins a lot of money or knows how to control themselves when gambling.
Addiction is a relapsing disease of the brain that can manifest as a craving for a substance or behavior. They pursue compulsively or obsessively and without regard to the consequences. Thus, addicts will have to suffer severe consequences. Therefore, I would not consider people who are successful in gambling to be addicts because they have won and are in control of their actions.
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September 26, 2023, 12:10:22 AM
In gambling there is no proper definition of success. Either you win or lose in gambling. If your winning amount is more than your losing amount, then yes it can be considered as somehow successful. But to make this happen, you need to have good bankroll which you will use to recover the losses. Now if you have a big bankroll, then it only defines that you are rich and you are gambling only for recreational purposes. So yes calling them as addicts won’t be suitable.

If you are constantly playing that means that you will have to constantly pour your money into the casinos.

I think at that level the definition of addiction is ok.

Because you are still gambling but are paying a lot constantly for it, without ever stopping. It might get to a point where you do not have the extra money coming in and then it will be hard to stop
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September 25, 2023, 10:47:05 PM
Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
In fact, he's not an addict at all. Despite dedicating a significant amount of time and energy to gambling, he maintains excellent control in every game. Gambling always favors those who can manage their emotions and finances effectively.

Some may still doubt that gambling can lead to success. But success doesn't always have to mean wealth, does it? Observing someone with a high win rate in gambling is also a form of success, right? However, those who profit significantly from the gambling industry as players are able to control their emotions and avoid becoming immersed in continuous gameplay. They truly exercise self-control, not allowing the casino to control them.
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