Topic: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? - page 23. (Read 6644 times)
It is easy to make conclusions about gamblers who are addict because they make it very obvious that they cannot do without gambling.Addiction comes the moment you can no longer control yourself about a particular thing.But there are some persons that we see as successful gamblers,they are termed successful because they have had the good and bad experience about gambling,and have known the right root to take while gambling.They know what works for them and what does not work for them.Yes it is true that successful gamblers are addicts to the game because it is through consistent gambling that gave them the experience,which to know the right thing to do for you to get the wins in gambling.You must have failed before becoming successful.
Such people are not addicts.
You make a good point. Just because someone makes bank at the casino or betting on sports doesn't automatically make them a gambling addict. It's more complicated than that. There are definitely gamblers who make a ton of money gambling but don't have a problem. but there are also dudes who win big and are still total degenerates. But that's another story.
So I'd say success isn't the only ingredient in the gambling addiction stew. It's more about the mentality. Can you walk away when youre up? Or does winning just make you want to bet more? There's plenty of people who gamble responsibly and plenty of others who just can't stop. Hitting it big doesn't automatically make you one or the other.
Because the cases of gambling addictions that we have around, are made up higher number of losses being a victim of addiction more than the winner, most of those that have the skills to win consistently have a way to remain positive and be able to maintain a level of restrictions and limit that help them to leverage above the tendency of sliding into addictions.
Such people are not addicts.
You make a good point. Just because someone makes bank at the casino or betting on sports doesn't automatically make them a gambling addict. It's more complicated than that. There are definitely gamblers who make a ton of money gambling but don't have a problem. but there are also dudes who win big and are still total degenerates. But that's another story.
So I'd say success isn't the only ingredient in the gambling addiction stew. It's more about the mentality. Can you walk away when youre up? Or does winning just make you want to bet more? There's plenty of people who gamble responsibly and plenty of others who just can't stop. Hitting it big doesn't automatically make you one or the other.
Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
Not completely; there are still successful gamblers who are not addicts, and there are also still those successful gamblers who are not addicts.There are people who have made it through gambling; they were lucky enough to, after all their wasted money and losses on their previous games, just one big win changed their entire story, which covered up all that they had lost, and others still remain wealthy. We have people like that, but even with the wealth that they have acquired, they still believe they can still make more from gambling, hence they got more addicted to the game and wager seamlessly. Such people, no matter how successful they are, can still be considered addicts.
There are also those who don't gamble more often, but they were lucky enough to win some big games, which made them successful, and those funds were put to good use. Still, they don't get obsessed with the game; they still control themselves and gamble responsibly. Such people are not addicts.
Gambling at home All gamblers must have knowledge of what they are doing. In a game where the gambler looks at his opponent, This is where it depends on someone bluffing in the game to get your money at the table.
This is for poker when you are just at home and enjoying gambling against your opponents. You can't see their faces but you know how to bluff against them. That's actually fun when you're doing that at most times because what you're doing is also being done by other gamblers who do enjoy doing that whilst they're at home.All gamblers do not have a definite goal, they are just addicted to playing how to increase their income from gambling, hoping that today they will get a profit from gambling. If they get the opposite or lose, successful gamblers will continue to play and play again?
I don't think so. Most gamblers have goals and not only have their incomes up but also recover their losses. And that's why we see many of them are losing more because of how they're reacting to their losses. With the outcomes that are favorable to them, they're going to continue and even with the opposite, still, they're going to continue without thinking on how much they've lost and from there they are going to be classified as addicted gamblers when there seems to be no reason for them to stop and all they want to do is to continue. 
Gambling at home All gamblers must have knowledge of what they are doing. In a game where the gambler looks at his opponent, This is where it depends on someone bluffing in the game to get your money at the table. All gamblers do not have a definite goal, they are just addicted to playing how to increase their income from gambling, hoping that today they will get a profit from gambling. If they get the opposite or lose, successful gamblers will continue to play and play again?
In fact, those who gamble because of income or extra money are actually addicted gamblers and there is a difference between successful or as usual normal gamblers who only use it as a source of entertainment. According to me, successful gambler means those people who follow a certain strategy and gamble. Gambling as a result of taking the strategy will not have any effect on his personal life or family. By the word of Successful Gambler does not mean winning millions of dollars. Those who can do regular gambling from certain rules are successful gamblers, and so successful gamblers are not addicted. 
Since everyone's job is the same in gambling, there is no difference between a successful and a failed gambler. But identifying a successful gambler and an addicted gambler is not very difficult. The addicted gambler has no other knowledge. But those who are successful gamblers are able to have enough knowledge about anything. Those who are successful gamblers they always aware of their win-loss situation and aiming to set their goals. But if I look at the goals of an addicted gambler, I see there is no set goals.
I think this your perspective isn't a bad one as this could literally the main difference between an addicted gambler and a successful one, they have a big variation in knowledge both within and outside gambling but sometimes addicts could be termed successful when they happen to be experiencing a series of wins consecutively over a period of time, so at this point it could be said that success at gambling could be relative.This is in the sense that a successful gambler today may also suffer series of losses tomorrow making him not any different from a regular gambler at that point so I don't know if it will be fine to say there are long term and Short term successful gamblers and lastly there are also experienced gambles aswell. The later posseses more of the characteristics you mentioned above and the are not impulsive about gambling most of the time.
The addicted gambler has no other knowledge. But those who are successful gamblers are able to have enough knowledge about anything. Those who are successful gamblers they always aware of their win-loss situation and aiming to set their goals. But if I look at the goals of an addicted gambler, I see there is no set goals.
Gambling at home All gamblers must have knowledge of what they are doing. In a game where the gambler looks at his opponent, This is where it depends on someone bluffing in the game to get your money at the table. All gamblers do not have a definite goal, they are just addicted to playing how to increase their income from gambling, hoping that today they will get a profit from gambling. If they get the opposite or lose, successful gamblers will continue to play and play again?[
Totally having those difference on which we know that not really just that literally in comparing about having those experienced or to those who doesnt have then its true that they are both doing gambling on which they are dealing with risks but if we do make out comparison into those people who o have experience really that advantage or we can say that they are once addicted but turns out that they had made themselves be able to realize things and able to make out adjustments which we know that they cant be called professional or successful if they havent been able to experience
once becomes addicts because if we do speak about addicts then those are people who doesnt really know having that control towards their gambling on which it would really be just normal
that once you have already overcome such condition then this is the time you would really be saying that they are indeed having that kind of good control already on when had already reached out
this state.
When we talk about results, there is a big difference to what makes for a successful gambler because success is not just attained at a platter of gold, and most times we face a lot of challenges and that is what makes us who we are, sometimes a lot of us have failed to acknowledge the fact that gambling is a tough job and that a why many are advised not to take it as a means to earn a living but just an entertainment channel this kind of mentality will save you a lot of time and also help manage the level of risk that the gambler takes. Totally having those difference on which we know that not really just that literally in comparing about having those experienced or to those who doesnt have then its true that they are both doing gambling on which they are dealing with risks but if we do make out comparison into those people who o have experience really that advantage or we can say that they are once addicted but turns out that they had made themselves be able to realize things and able to make out adjustments which we know that they cant be called professional or successful if they havent been able to experience
once becomes addicts because if we do speak about addicts then those are people who doesnt really know having that control towards their gambling on which it would really be just normal
that once you have already overcome such condition then this is the time you would really be saying that they are indeed having that kind of good control already on when had already reached out
this state.
But then we must have to separate or draw a clear line between an addict and a successful gambler and also try to balance the equation of whether or not, success in gambling always comes with a lot of negativity such as gambling addictions.
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I partially disagree on your post when you talk about knowledge and the perception people could have on what a successful gambler is who is addicted or not.
Let us be honest, a successful gambler is one who has managed to have an incredible streak of good luck and has been able to retire from gambling having those net positive numbers in their site. That person is not addicted because knows when was supposed to stop and also it is successful, due to them having "defeated the casino", it could be anyone who buys and lottery ticket or spin a slots and yet has a minimum of knowledge on what they are doing.
On the other hand, someone who is addicted will continue to put their money at risk in detriment of their own financial stability.
Having goals helps but it is not completely a must-have in order for others to call one a "successful" gambler.
exactly. you said something very reasonable and I fully support your opinion when you say that a successful gambler is a gambler who is lucky enough to win big and then decides to stop and leave gambling to use his winnings for business or something else that earns regularly without having to risk anything big like gambling and this is pure successful gambler.I partially disagree on your post when you talk about knowledge and the perception people could have on what a successful gambler is who is addicted or not.
Let us be honest, a successful gambler is one who has managed to have an incredible streak of good luck and has been able to retire from gambling having those net positive numbers in their site. That person is not addicted because knows when was supposed to stop and also it is successful, due to them having "defeated the casino", it could be anyone who buys and lottery ticket or spin a slots and yet has a minimum of knowledge on what they are doing.
On the other hand, someone who is addicted will continue to put their money at risk in detriment of their own financial stability.
Having goals helps but it is not completely a must-have in order for others to call one a "successful" gambler.
I say this also because in the history of gambling addicts it is not a success even though they win several times or lose several times but the fact is that the addict still continues to bet without caring about the money he has earned and a successful gambler is one who can know when to quit like you say.
Do we even have people who take gambling as a means of livelihood because I have heard this statement several time and this have prompted me to think about the thought of his possible that is to take something as risky as gambling as a mean of income or a career unless you plan to crash along the way, but then also I am not against the responsible utilization of gambling winning into another aspect of business that will sustain the flow of income.
That way you as a successful gambler have been able to build a sustainable career using gambling rewards and not depending on the future winning to sustain those businesses since you are already aware of the risk and unpredictability of gambling.
In many ways the successful person was seems as the gambling addicted person in various countries.Many new gamblers was see the experienced gambler as the gambling addict.But they are not really the addicted person in the gambling,they are just the gambler with huge love towards the gambling.The affection for the gambling was different from the gambling addiction to the gambling.The income was the base of the amount of the dollars was used by the gamblers in the gambling sites.Ind you are the new gambler,you need to learn a lot from the gambling experiences.
once becomes addicts because if we do speak about addicts then those are people who doesnt really know having that control towards their gambling on which it would really be just normal
that once you have already overcome such condition then this is the time you would really be saying that they are indeed having that kind of good control already on when had already reached out
this state.
Since everyone's job is the same in gambling, there is no difference between a successful and a failed gambler. But identifying a successful gambler and an addicted gambler is not very difficult. The addicted gambler has no other knowledge. But those who are successful gamblers are able to have enough knowledge about anything. Those who are successful gamblers they always aware of their win-loss situation and aiming to set their goals. But if I look at the goals of an addicted gambler, I see there is no set goals.
I partially disagree on your post when you talk about knowledge and the perception people could have on what a successful gambler is who is addicted or not.
Let us be honest, a successful gambler is one who has managed to have an incredible streak of good luck and has been able to retire from gambling having those net positive numbers in their site. That person is not addicted because knows when was supposed to stop and also it is successful, due to them having "defeated the casino", it could be anyone who buys and lottery ticket or spin a slots and yet has a minimum of knowledge on what they are doing.
On the other hand, someone who is addicted will continue to put their money at risk in detriment of their own financial stability.
Having goals helps but it is not completely a must-have in order for others to call one a "successful" gambler.
Do we even have people who take gambling as a means of livelihood because I have heard this statement several time and this have prompted me to think about the thought of his possible that is to take something as risky as gambling as a mean of income or a career unless you plan to crash along the way, but then also I am not against the responsible utilization of gambling winning into another aspect of business that will sustain the flow of income.
That way you as a successful gambler have been able to build a sustainable career using gambling rewards and not depending on the future winning to sustain those businesses since you are already aware of the risk and unpredictability of gambling.
In many ways the successful person was seems as the gambling addicted person in various countries.Many new gamblers was see the experienced gambler as the gambling addict.But they are not really the addicted person in the gambling,they are just the gambler with huge love towards the gambling.The affection for the gambling was different from the gambling addiction to the gambling.The income was the base of the amount of the dollars was used by the gamblers in the gambling sites.Ind you are the new gambler,you need to learn a lot from the gambling experiences.
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Many people have a huge bias when it comes to the knowledge they acquire through their own experiences and disregard theoretical knowledge, so you could show them using probabilities why they cannot turn profitable while gambling and they will simply not believe it.
They have to try for themselves and gamble a lot before they actually believe it, however learning in this way has a massive disadvantage as they will need to lose a lot of money this way, when they could have saved themselves the trouble by just admitting the math was right.
If they instead decide to gamble a lot to find out and believe it, they will probably regret having used a lot of their money to gamble. But people who can't feel it won't see it and will gamble more often because they want to make money from gambling. They shouldn't need to gamble a lot because if they can pay attention to what they have gotten from gambling, they can see that they have lost a lot so they don't need to continue gambling.They have to try for themselves and gamble a lot before they actually believe it, however learning in this way has a massive disadvantage as they will need to lose a lot of money this way, when they could have saved themselves the trouble by just admitting the math was right.
But unfortunately, the temptation of gambling is too strong and what's more, when they win, greed will come to them and ask them to continue gambling while they have a lot of money. And unfortunately, many gamblers listen to this so they decide to continue gambling. Only people who realize that gambling will not provide many opportunities to win will not continue gambling and will choose to stop gambling because they know there are many problems they will face if they continue gambling.
If someone is successful in professional gambling then we cannot call him an addicted gambler because everyone should be focused on their work. A love of work is also a good quality. A professional gambler's job is to bring about his gambling success. So if he is gambling regularly and is able to bring good results then surely gambling is not an addiction for him but a part of his regular work. It should be remembered that an addicted gambler will never be able to bring about his gambling success. Although the activities of an addicted gambler and successful gambler may seem similar in gambling, in reality there is a big difference between the two.
And besides, it's their business and a kind choice of life that they love to walk along, I think it's something that opinion based alone, maybe some still find it addiction and some will allow them not being criticize, though in some point, if it's really a successful journey then it might be okay for them treating it as skills for finding venue to make money.
Money making skills that let them live a good and decent life from that found venue of activities that give them the luxury of winning money.
If we talk calmly successful gambler is an addict then that is also not quite right because in the world of gambling there are only 10% of gamblers who may be truly successful because of the luck they have.
Success from gambling will never be easy to achieve because 90% of gamblers will experience bad luck or never be able to make profits to change their lives.
And gambling is not place to make money so as I have said before if you want to make money then the answer is to do business or work, if you can trade then trading is good way to make money.
First is, it is not even right at all to take or consider gambling as a job, so, to this is say that whoever is addicted to gambling is addicted to gambling, it doesn't matter if the person takes gambling as a job or not, gambling is not even a profession, why should someone in all the professions all over the world choose to gamble as a profession? this is absolutely not right if I'm asked.
And yes, there indeed can be someone addicted gamblers who are really successful, but the ones I've seen or come in physical contact with did not actually make the money from gambling per say, they have built and established businesses that make millions of dollars or whatever currency for them, they just spend their time and money on gambling as a way for them to have fun.
This kind of people usually do not even know that they are addicted to gambling since they already have more than enough money to gamble for life and never feel the negative impact of losing money in the process .
And yes, there indeed can be someone addicted gamblers who are really successful, but the ones I've seen or come in physical contact with did not actually make the money from gambling per say, they have built and established businesses that make millions of dollars or whatever currency for them, they just spend their time and money on gambling as a way for them to have fun.
This kind of people usually do not even know that they are addicted to gambling since they already have more than enough money to gamble for life and never feel the negative impact of losing money in the process .
- There is nothing we can do if the mindset of other gamblers is like that. Many people have said that here, but even if they have read that reminder a million times, they just ignore it because they don't want to believe what they say. of other gamblers.
There are gamblers whose only goal is to have fun; others become addicts because they let gambling consume them, so they became addicts because they were driven by greed; and others use it as stress relief. Gambling is just that.
They have to try for themselves and gamble a lot before they actually believe it, however learning in this way has a massive disadvantage as they will need to lose a lot of money this way, when they could have saved themselves the trouble by just admitting the math was right.
Do we even have people who take gambling as a means of livelihood because I have heard this statement several time and this have prompted me to think about the thought of his possible that is to take something as risky as gambling as a mean of income or a career unless you plan to crash along the way, but then also I am not against the responsible utilization of gambling winning into another aspect of business that will sustain the flow of income.
That way you as a successful gambler have been able to build a sustainable career using gambling rewards and not depending on the future winning to sustain those businesses since you are already aware of the risk and unpredictability of gambling.
In many ways the successful person was seems as the gambling addicted person in various countries.Many new gamblers was see the experienced gambler as the gambling addict.But they are not really the addicted person in the gambling,they are just the gambler with huge love towards the gambling.The affection for the gambling was different from the gambling addiction to the gambling.The income was the base of the amount of the dollars was used by the gamblers in the gambling sites.Ind you are the new gambler,you need to learn a lot from the gambling experiences.
And besides, it's their business and a kind choice of life that they love to walk along, I think it's something that opinion based alone, maybe some still find it addiction and some will allow them not being criticize, though in some point, if it's really a successful journey then it might be okay for them treating it as skills for finding venue to make money.
Money making skills that let them live a good and decent life from that found venue of activities that give them the luxury of winning money.
There are gamblers whose only goal is to have fun; others become addicts because they let gambling consume them, so they became addicts because they were driven by greed; and others use it as stress relief. Gambling is just that.
Everyone has a choice and goal to become an addict and gambler. If you want to be a gambler, you should make gambling just for entertainment and to have fun, but if you want to be an addict, just play without limits until you go bankrupt, I'm sure everyone wants to win when gambling, that's why mindset plays a role in choosing the direction of our gambling, it all depends on our own self-control.So far I only gamble for entertainment and looking for fun so I don't choose to become an addict because it will destroy what I have whether it's money or family or even work, the more I become an addict the more I will lose, but if I want to be a gambler I will play and enjoy the game without having to feel like you are missing anything.
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I think the term would be correct.
In a similar way, we have the term "high-functioning alcoholic", which basically states the fact that even though the person can be seen as "successful", they also have an addiction.
The same can apply to gambling. But I reckon there are very few, if any, addicted successful gamblers.
I think the term would be correct.
In a similar way, we have the term "high-functioning alcoholic", which basically states the fact that even though the person can be seen as "successful", they also have an addiction.
The same can apply to gambling. But I reckon there are very few, if any, addicted successful gamblers.
it's quite rare to see an addicted gambler who is successful from his gambling, most of the people who are addicted to gambling that i see have a mediocre life, not very rich, like my neighbor, a gambling addict ends up living in poverty.
but that doesn't rule out the possibility that there are also gamblers who are successful through their games such as professional poker or sportsbooks or from referral links and promotions on their channels. i think they can be said to be successful gamblers because they earn money from gambling and they are not considered addicted because they already consider gambling to be their job.
And yes, there indeed can be someone addicted gamblers who are really successful, but the ones I've seen or come in physical contact with did not actually make the money from gambling per say, they have built and established businesses that make millions of dollars or whatever currency for them, they just spend their time and money on gambling as a way for them to have fun.
This kind of people usually do not even know that they are addicted to gambling since they already have more than enough money to gamble for life and never feel the negative impact of losing money in the process .
- There is nothing we can do if the mindset of other gamblers is like that. Many people have said that here, but even if they have read that reminder a million times, they just ignore it because they don't want to believe what they say. of other gamblers.
There are gamblers whose only goal is to have fun; others become addicts because they let gambling consume them, so they became addicts because they were driven by greed; and others use it as stress relief. Gambling is just that.
Do we even have people who take gambling as a means of livelihood because I have heard this statement several time and this have prompted me to think about the thought of his possible that is to take something as risky as gambling as a mean of income or a career unless you plan to crash along the way, but then also I am not against the responsible utilization of gambling winning into another aspect of business that will sustain the flow of income.
That way you as a successful gambler have been able to build a sustainable career using gambling rewards and not depending on the future winning to sustain those businesses since you are already aware of the risk and unpredictability of gambling.
In many ways the successful person was seems as the gambling addicted person in various countries.Many new gamblers was see the experienced gambler as the gambling addict.But they are not really the addicted person in the gambling,they are just the gambler with huge love towards the gambling.The affection for the gambling was different from the gambling addiction to the gambling.The income was the base of the amount of the dollars was used by the gamblers in the gambling sites.Ind you are the new gambler,you need to learn a lot from the gambling experiences.
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