Topic: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? - page 33. (Read 6617 times)

In the eyes of many they're seen as addicts, but in addition to what slow death said, at the cost of practicing or analyzing how the system works, time is required. And when a person does give out lots of time to an activity, he can be seen as an addict. But, these people are tagged professional gamblers, meaning gambling is like a work to them, hence if anybody who works on something is categorized to be addicted to their jobs we may be missing out on the definition of the word addiction. Addiction is referred to as a brain disorder and such a person may not think straight again, even while gambling. Unlike the professionals, they're giving out multiple energy and time to provide the best results for themselves. Which the activities, rewards them with much winnings and healthy gambling lifestyle. They know what it means to be addicted and can advise an addicted player on ways to skip gambling addiction. It's clear we see them playing games everyday, all the time. Yet it doesn't stop them from going for a month vacation without gambling. I think that makes the difference.

most of the time for a person to be able to master something it is necessary for that person to practice a lot, it takes hours and many days of practice until that person manages to create a good strategy, this should not be confused with addiction, these are completely different things. different, for example the guy who creates the odds for the casino, is a person who spends many hours analyzing the games, so just because these people who place the value of odds in the casinos spend hours analyzing the games does not mean that they are people addicted to games. see that we are talking about many games that must be analyzed for the casino to set the odds, this means that the people who analyze all these games spend much more time analyzing the games and determining the value of the odds

let's also look at the case of professional bettors, these guys live analyzing many games almost every day of the week and from what I've seen, it's hardly ever heard that any professional bettor has become addicted to gambling, this is because the guys in addition After practicing a lot, they are also aware of the dangers of gambling and always bet using knowledge and not feelings. when people start betting using feelings such as a lot of optimism, a lot of expectations, ambition for high profits, being sad when they lose

These feelings begin to blind the person and the person begins to not accept defeats and losses and as a consequence people begin to bet to recover losses, but they do not make an effort to improve the way they analyze games to obtain better results, so The defeats don't stop and they start to get frustrated and later they become addicted to gambling and lose everything they have in the real world. That's why it's always good to practice a lot, and when I talk about practicing, I'm talking about studying the sport a lot and trying to predict the result without putting money into the game.

Yes, sometimes there are addicts who become successful gamblers because they learn from the experience of defeat that they experience all the time, even at the beginning, usually not many people are successful because of gambling, especially in the long term, there is definitely a lot of time and money that must be sacrificed to become a professional gambler. even become successful because of gambling, I haven't seen anything like that but I'm sure there are successful gamblers out there who are truly gambling addicts.

But I might think more maturely, if I have big money, I should build my own casino and enjoy the profits from gambling rather than becoming a gambler who ends up becoming an addict, just wasting time and money, resulting in more risks and going bankrupt, whereas being a dealer seems can be much more successful than being a gambler, after all it is the same as wasting money but producing wins by being a better bookie.

To avoid confusions, we ought to add another word after the "addict" so that it will not be misunderstood by someone who are reading our post as it will just lead to another argument thinking that you mean the opposite like a negative word when in-fact you are not. So, I can say that these successful gamblers are addicts, "addicted to winnings" because sure, they got their own losses as well but they made that as a lesson to lessen their mistakes and getting a much bigger chances of winning, hence why they are called by that name. The opposite of that, well, we already know what is the meaning for it, it's certainly a negative.

Also, no one will call "successful gamblers" as addicted.  The term addicted is usually used in a bad sense like if a person is involved in some activity and he or she has a bad result because of access to it, then we call it addicted. If anyone is making money, then for sure, no one will criticize that person as everyone loves to make money.

On the other hand, gamblers who play gambling aggressively would never be a winner in the long run, so usually, gambling addicts are not successful in the first place.

So far I have never met a gambler who was truly successfull, if there was one they might be called an addict because it is impossible for them to get money quickly, perhaps they take a long times to bet and dare to bet large amounts so they can wins bets with maximum result, and usually people's like that have strategi and patterns that can make them wins.

If gamblers know that investing their time and money in gambling will not produce profits, they should look for other ways to make money and just need to take the time to find them. I agree that successful gamblers can use their time and money for other things outside of gambling to remain productive by looking for ways to make money other than gambling. They also won't experience addiction because they know how to use their time and money and can avoid or prevent gambling addiction. But gamblers who do not have self-control will be addicted to gambling without realizing it and will not do other things because, according to them, gambling is the most important thing.

Becoming a successful gambler requires many things that will be difficult to do and only those who have the ability can do it. But when they become successful gamblers, they can win compared to other gamblers and prevent many losses. They also have a balanced life between gambling and other things, so they don't experience gambling addiction.

Everyone gambling thinks they're going to be the exception to the rule, and it's hilarious. You're right about the misconception newbies have. They blindly jump in because they think it's a goldmine.

Let's be honest, though: most people learn the hard way. About professional gamblers, though? You are so cute when you think that their past traumas suddenly protect them from addiction. Some people have been through the worst and may be more careful now, but no one is unbeatable. Gambling's appeal can hit anyone, pro or not. Experience can be a teacher, but sometimes, it's just another chapter in a tragic story. 

Of course I would classify a successful gambler as a gambling addict. The reason is that a successful gambler can never become successful in a short period of time. He must invest a long time to achieve success. I saw a post a few days ago about a man winning $600k after gambling for 10 years straight. I think here he participated in gambling for a long time and later he got success. And especially in gambling, a person can never succeed in a short period of time. You must invest a long time to get success from the gambling platform. Since he is spending a long time here, he must be addicted to gambling.

A successful gamblers maybe we can say that they are  addict cause we all know that they will career Thier gambling cause they don't win if they don't care gambling or let say they don't win once they are quiting in gambling and maybe Thier perspective is that they want to persure Thier goals which is being a successful gamblers that's why they didn't stop  betting.

It is their own fault when they gamble but they not know how gambling works so that gambling addicts initially think of gambling as place to double their money and then think that gambling is the right place to earn income and many more causes they become addicted and on the one hand they are gambling addicts ignoring all of that so that his mind only focuses on profit, which accidentally shows signs of addiction that he not realize and ends up being addicted.

About professional gamblers, whether they can become addicted, I think the chance is small because what I know is that professional gamblers are gamblers in the past who have had a lot of bad experiences, some even used to be gambling addicts and have now recovered from their addiction and become professional addicts.
This bad experience in the past allows gambling addicts to know how gambling works so that they have better control because they already know that they will never win at gambling unless they cheat using other strategies.

I think you may have misunderstood the characteristics of addicts and mistaken the whole thing,  and come to think of it how and who told you that being successful can be mixed with being an addict,  and what are the bases that you use to arrive at such conclusion.

Let me let you know the number one characteristic of addicts,  Liability,  yes the first characteristic of an addict is that,  he is a liability to himself and those around him,  but anyone who is not exhibiting any of such attributes and being charge of his activities and becoming successful then such person is not in any category to be considered as an addict.

The moment we understand the principles of gambling, the period we start earning enormously from the system. We have nothing to worry about if we continue to gamble and earn profits from the space. Addiction can not be permanently eliminated but it can be reduced with temporary techniques. It's mostly complicated in the space and it takes only consistency and hardwork to determine the level of success and profitability. Successful gamblers are often seen as gambling addicts. There's more of these gamblers deal with in the system, making sure that there's full backup strategies. 

Investing much time and money into gambling doesn't make us addicts. Successful gamblers have a life outside gambling; family, friend etc. They have fun times when  they're not gambling. An addicted player, gives all to gambling and forfeits any other recreation that is not gambling. Their life revolves on gambling and they stake anything just to gamble. Such behaviour doesn't guarantee winning, a proof of success in gambling. If a person gives their all into gambling and doesn't win they're not successful, while being addicted to gamble. Hence if a person dedicates specific time on gambling and wins often, due to their extensive techniques of how gambing works. I'd add the person as a successful gambler. On the both sides, if a person is addicted and wins big too, they're successful gamblers. Because their addiction in gambling didn't end in playing games, but in devising methods that works for them. So, categorizing them, we can say that not all successful gamblers are addicts, same way not all addicts are successful gamblers. Even, a good percentage of successful gamblers play for fun.

Well of course because that's the only disease that exists in gambling which is addiction, I think everyone especially gamblers also know that this addiction has taken them too far. But yes there is a point, those who are professionals may be able to avoid that addiction, I'm not saying that professionals have never been addicted at all but I'm sure initially they must have experienced that addiction but over time they can reduce the level of addiction by trying to make peace with themselves, and after that they gamble maybe only a few times a week or a month, I mean it will be very rare and if they gamble they will definitely emphasize self-control because almost all the conditions that are there they have experienced it.

But I don't think that's entirely true, and as for losing they will always experience it even though they have good control, gambling is difficult to predict and we won't know when we will win or lose again. Yes, it is very dangerous and in my opinion those who are addicted to it mean that they are already at a very concerning point, so instead of getting a win but instead are busy with always losing, I understand you don't want to experience that, but I hope you can be more assertive to control yourself, it is better for you to prevent than cure. 

Gambling will be addictive but experienced individuals can usually control themselves and do not become addicted. Even if they lose the game, they are able to recover and do not spoil everything with winning strategies. Apart from the opportunity to enjoy the entertainment on offer when it comes to betting, online betting offers a realistic gambling experience. But for addicts gambling can be even more dangerous than addiction. It reduces your ability to control your mind so that you are not in a position to make mistakes and judge properly.

There must be something that can cure gambling addiction. A person can try to recover from gambling addiction by doing many things. He needs to create or do a new activity to divert his mind so he doesn't think about gambling. He also needs to do it for a certain time until his mind is no longer thinking about gambling but only thinking about other things. And even though he thinks about gambling, that doesn't mean he's still addicted to gambling because at least he can manage his thoughts so he doesn't think about gambling. Recovery from gambling means a person should try to get rid of thoughts about gambling and have other activities that can help him stay busy with other things or activities.

A successful gambler may also be a gambling addict. Still, we know that he has more ability to get rid of gambling addiction because he knows that gambling addiction will not be profitable for him. However, someone who is addicted to gambling is not necessarily successful in gambling because his gambling addiction may become serious if he has lost the way to control himself. This successful gambler may indeed be a talented gambler or luckier than other gamblers so that he can win more often than other gamblers.

Indeed, we cannot say that someone successful is also addicted to gambling because it depends on how he treats gambling. If he cannot control himself well while gambling, he is not a successful gambler because he can lose a lot of money. A successful gambler must be able to use and have everything necessary to avoid gambling addiction so that he is not like other people who have experienced gambling addiction.

If you are a gambler who had already that past experience on getting addicted but able to make out that recovery then for sure you would really be making yourself a better gambler because those realizations on which it is really normal that you would really be able to obtain such awareness towards ones self but same as you said that there's no such thing about assurance on winning gambling despite of the condition you do have.It do really just turns out that you are much more wiser now and does have the control when it comes into your finances on which means that getting wrecked is unlikely to happen. You wont really be considered to be successful if we do speak about those recovery but rather successful ones are to those who do able to sustain out profitability on gambling field
whether you are a past addicted gambler or none. It doesnt really make difference since the primary attribute of a successful person would really be that pertaining into those points that i do said earlier.Failure and success would really be determine whether you do make money or not or simply just tending to deal just to get that leisure.

Yeah, one might actually be able to recover from their addiction and reduce the time and money that they used to spend on gambling and become a responsible gambler after that. However, I don't think that once a person has left gambling and got rid of their addiction, should gamble once again because when you have already been addicted to something, you can easily get addicted to that thing again if you start doing it more often.

So, someone who has already managed to get out of their gambling addiction and are easily able to stay away from gambling, they should do that instead of getting involved again because they might be able to be responsible at the beginning, but they will eventually start getting addicted to it again.

Well, I have a very particular point of view on this, because sometimes people who are successful in the game can't just call them addicts, it's obvious that if I'm lucky, or talented in the game and win money, I have and I must be there in the middle because if I see that I win more than I lose, because for me it is profitable and better than a business, then I must be there no matter what others think, there is a very curious casino, which I analyze what What they mean here in this thread in particular, and that I would like to share, I have a friend, who is a very nice person and everything, he is a person who is not even dedicated to casinos or something like that, and a car mechanic and well that is basically his job, apart from the fact that he is very good, so he is a person who is very lucky when he plays lotteries, normally he plays raffles, and it just so happens that in each raffle he plays a single number and that number he plays in all of them. the rigas that they offer him, so last year he won a truck and a car with that same lottery but in two raffles, that is, he won both raffles, and about two months ago he won about 4 rigas, that is, in the raffles that he played, he always plays the same number and since the raffles are done on the same day, he won all of them, so he is profitable in that snitod, in fact yesterday he came to my house and I told him to continue playing, because the Probabldiades say that if a person wins a lottery or a raffle, something like that, he can continue winning them, so I told him to keep playing, because the probabilities are in his favor.

So in this order of ideas you cannot call someone who is successful in gambling addicted, in fact when he won, because he won a lot of cars and other things, because friend requests began to arrive in his social networks, and a lady, already a little older, told him that if he did witchcraft, then he told her that he didn't believe in any of that, but people always discredit the achievements of others.