Topic: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? - page 12. (Read 6614 times)

Of course, what about those people who we can say are really lucky in gambling? Just like in the lottery, let's say that they won millions of dollars. This can be said to be successful, right? In particular, lottery winners often come from poor families.

And most of these winners are also addicted to addiction because they think they might get lucky again. Now,  because of their lack of knowledge in managing money, they don't notice that it is slowly being wasted without realizing it because they became addicted to gambling, so in the end, the millions they won went to nothing.

Right. Becoming a successful gambler doesn't always mean you have to go through a bunch of losses and addiction first. Sure, some folks might hit it big from the get-go, and that's their journey. But the sustainable success stories usually involve more than just luck. It's about knowing the games, having some strategy, and being disciplined in your approach. Not everyone faces uncontrollable losses or addiction on their way to success, some people manage to avoid those pitfalls altogether because when they experience small losses, they pause. Or when they experience big win, they pause too or stop.

Reading your last paragraph, I was able to determine the reason why the novice won the game. He wasn't anxious about winning. He played the calculative game and was not bothered if he won the round or not. Hence his ideas became accurate and calculated, due to the fact he was not rushing to win or prove a point to anybody. He also didn't care about what people would say, after all, he's a novice and the people are around cheering him up for his previous wins. His further loss won't matter. He never panicked about the outcome of the result. Compared to the professional gambler who wasn't at rest. He only needed to show his friends that the novice player couldn't win and he may have bragged the first time, that he wasn't serious and only allowed the novice to win the round. While he was trying to balance the game and the thoughts of the people watching the game, his mind was now compounded with different thoughts. He wasn't focusing on the game anymore.

Instead, what people are saying about him clamored his decisions and he made lots of mistakes which he won't give account for, even after losing the game. He's now on the verge of chasing losses and borrowing money just to win the novice. These two people have passed a message to gamblers. The winner, a novice gambler, didn't stress himself on the win. He even had in mind that he'd win the game. Playing for the fun of being with a professional was his first joy, and the win didn't bother him anymore. When one is less concerned about winning in gambling, he would make good decisions that can make him win from the predictions he's placed. While those chasing after the win may not win, and when they win, the money still goes back to the house. Because they don't get satisfied. The professional wasn't satisfied with the losses he had accumulated, that was why he went for a loan. Until he now came to his senses to stop and receive the shame of losing out to a newbie. I don't understand why some pro gambler would underestimate a newbie, without acknowledging the fact that gambling knows no newbie or a pro.

For some this behavior is very normal, things can go on the good side, that is, when you have things to do it is necessary for the players to give Themselves , and it is natural that people who want to stay or something in a place so do it, I think that the Casino owners analyze each player's way of playing and based on that they draw Conclusions that as profitable as a player is , he Remains as if the casino were his home, maybe he will become an icon and you can see the difference, that is something that not everyone sees favorably and that they can obtain things to have a status quo that everyone wants to please at a time, they alone stick to doing what they like , and if this they can bring Potential players to the Casino, only because they see People like that in their establishments, because it will let him live, so at any Moment that player will play and lose, or he will Win , but if he does, the long term has shown that the most likely thing is who loses , that's the possibilities in the casino.

Maintaining an Intelligent state and a good streak in a casino is a very Difficult thing , it is Really quite hard to do, you would have to have a great Talent and a lot of patience to achieve something like that, in the economic sense I know that there are people who can help make the difference, but not everyone can do something that can give constant profits, I know that a player who is in a casino all day can change things in his favor in a Moment , but as I have seen, the house edge is something that is Essential , you Cannot forget about such a thing, you have to have a lot of confidence in the things you do, how they are done and why they are done, it is something that Would make it clear that it can be taken for granted, For that Reason, as good players we must Understand the Capabilities under which we do not move in the casinos, we know that it is not Easy, but it is not impossible to have a good Streak and get a lot of Money.

Yes, perhaps he is still a professional gambler with all his gambling abilities. But he must be able to accept that there are beginner gamblers who can beat him at gambling so that he can feel that perhaps his gambling abilities have decreased so he needs to learn more to improve his abilities. As a professional gambler, he should be able to control himself well and not be provoked by his emotions, especially if a novice gambler beats him. It is natural for him to lose control of himself while gambling, especially because a novice gambler has beaten him.

Of course, it's cool when you have the opportunity to stop in time and say that I made good money on this game, I'm quitting it. If I continue to play using my already won money, the chance of losing it will increase dramatically. This is the most common strategy - converting random gains into conservative, low-risk management. But this is only reasonable if the amount of money won is quite significant. If this is not a lot of money, then, in my opinion, there is no point in transferring it to conservative management. Conservatively, we should manage only those funds that are already so large that we are afraid of losing them.

I’ve seen people who are professional gamblers and what I mean by professional gamblers is that they live all their lives from gambling proceeds and I know of another one who already bought about two trucks from different gambling winnings and I’m sure you wouldn’t classify such as an addict because he already made it in gambling irrespective of his success story which might not even be pleasant if told.
In conclusion, I think money cancels a lot of doctrines and principles and as long as a gambler is making profits and maybe on a consistent based then he might not be tagged an addict because he already has money.
I’m not against the fact that gambling is fun and entertaining but I’m just trying to say that people shouldn’t make it seem like they’re all in for just the fun and not interested in the winnings

I also think that addiction is one of the things that can attack players very badly and leave them without money, if a person manages to do good things, for example, being in the casino for a long time and not feeling the prevailing need to be playing bull. time, I think it has been a good job and it is a mission accomplished, you can call him a successful player in the casino, but he also has to win the games, because if he doesn't win the money runs out and then how will he continue? I don't know if there are people who win and are addicted, but not a bad addiction, but rather spending all day playing but coming out the winner.

It's difficult from the point of view that the casino will always win, but a player can win, the idea is how long can a player win that much? I think that this is something that cannot be measured, and for that reason you have to take great care of the addiction. Is an addicted person who earns money Successful?

IMO, successful gamblers are those who can enjoy gambling but they can avoid the addiction. If you become an addict, I think you are failed to success in gambling. Smart gamblers must know how to gamble in the right way, they just make gambling to be a place for entertainment and think the prizes for the bonus only. Don't have the mindset to chase the wins in gambling! If you chase the wins and you become an addict, you are already in the wrong way in gambling. Being an addict probably will end up with bad result, you will be difficult to recover because you too rely your life on gambling.

Gambling is good as long as you make it as the place for entertainment and try luck for earning money. But if you make it as your main job or you put all your money into gambling, it is not the right way in gambling. Addicts probably use all their money into gambling because they want to chase the win, so how can the addicts to be categized as successful gamblers? It doesn't make sense for me!

The guy is just lucky and he can say he may not gamble again for now, but there is still a tendency for him be gamble again in the future because his test for the winning will always drag him back and maybe at that time he may lose.
I believe in first-time luck ans time I myself have experienced such trends, but then uf you must be a regular gambler, it then means that you have to experience both wins and losses at some point and you have to accept that fact, gambling of gamblers who understand this method already won half of the bets and also the fight against addictions on the long run.

The idea of a successful gambler could mean different things in the minds of different people. According to the first person in this post that I am replying, his idea of a successful gambler is that the gambler must have gone through series of losses and maybe became addicted and in the end of the day cured of addiction and has become successful. But the second person said that a successful gambler can be a novice who just became suddenly lucky to win big amount of money.

To get the good stands in this matter we need to understand what the original topic creator intended by saying a successful gambler. Me I can say that what is a success to one person might not be a success to another. To me, I can win $10k in gambling today and say that I am successful but Mr B could win $10,000 and still not see himself as being successfulm

Yes, after all, he cannot be called a real professional. Maybe he was one until this moment, but the fact of the matter is that a true professional is completely tested by time and the most difficult situations, after which he managed to survive, and in some even emerged victorious. After all, at a common table everyone is a rival, and even if it were filled with professional players, there will still be only one winner. They can even play very well and not make mistakes, in which case luck will decide who to put in first place. Still, they prefer to hunt for weak players and not get involved in difficulties, unless of course these weak players piss them off)

It is successful gamblers you are talking about, I don't think they can always have that winning without any bad days where they will feel sorry for them. All successful gamblers have their stories (good and bad), so I will not agree with you that there are some that things will be rosy for from the beginning and forever. Common, that is not possible. This thing we call gambling is not controlled by anybody, only that we know how to go about it more than ourselves, which makes it unique for some people, and not that they are perfect in doing it.

While some will be so smart with very good gambling approaches like strategy and forecasting, while others are so prudent in the way they plan, budget and manage their gambling portfolio. And if gamblers could combine these together, it would be so fine for them and will be shining. But this doesn't mean that the gambler will not be losing at times and even have bad days, weeks or months. The saving grace is the fact that they know how to forecast well and manage their ways out in gambling, sure, they will always be on top of their game by this. But not that they will never have that bad day, all have it.

Hard to argue with that because being a professional gambler means you've got allot time for your habit which is going to be a long time like any other professional out there, it's not going to make anyone a pro just because they've done it for the first time right? Unless they've got the luck of the leprechaun Gods and they're a gambling prodigy, professional gamblers will have to walk through that path of losses and addiction, I still can't classify them as addicts though because being a professional takes discipline and that's lacking to an addict.

Most gamblers will think like that, especially if they still feel they can win the gambling game. He didn't think that it was just his imagination that could cause him to suffer even more losses. If he continues to underestimate his opponent, he will lose and be unable to achieve a win.

Many people who feel they are professionals but find that they are defeated by those who are not professionals will feel uncomfortable and perhaps angry. But those who are truly professional will not do something like that. Instead, they will praise him and say that those who are not professional have succeeded in making him lose. It proves that there is still sky above the sky. The professional will not always be a professional because new ones will replace them. But for experience, professionals are still superior, and those who have just won from professional gamblers must be able to admit it. This is where there is a supportive nature from each party.

If someone feels arrogant and boasts about himself and feels better than others, he will face defeat from others. Sooner or later, this will happen, and as a professional gambler, he should be able to control himself and choose not to continue gambling instead of borrowing money and losing all his money. And yes, even a professional gambler can become addicted to gambling if he loses control of himself so much that he doesn't realize that he has changed just because a beginner beat him. It would be really sad if a professional gambler experienced that. That means he still needs to learn many things so that he is not affected by anything that happens while he is gambling and can remain a wise professional gambler. A professional gambler should be able to act better than a beginner and can take care of himself well too.

But usually, a professional gambler who is challenged by a novice gambler will underestimate the novice gambler's abilities so that he seems to be just gambling carelessly. But after a few rounds, he must have seen that the novice gambler had better gambling skills, but he didn't want to admit it. It turned out that after gambling for a while, the professional gambler was defeated by a novice gambler, and he couldn't accept it. If he ends up being provoked by his emotions and wants to avenge his defeat, he will not stop himself but will instead be even more eager to beat the novice gambler. Conversely, the novice gambler can actually carry himself calmly and not be provoked by the professional gambler and ends up winning the gambling game. It was a sad ending experienced by a professional gambler, and it would be a matter of pride for the novice gambler because he managed to beat a professional gambler.

almost all gamblers can become addicted, it's just that they already have every way to avoid their addiction and the biggest opportunity for a gambler to become addicted is those who always come every day to gamble even though they say this is just for fun but believe me in the long term they can become addicted like what you said. however, for gamblers who come only in their free time or on holidays, the potential for addiction is certainly smaller because they won't constantly think about gambling, but for gamblers who gamble every day, they will always be curious about everything that triggers their minds to keep trying to bet.

and all this is about self control as you said but if self control without strong commitment will definitely be very difficult but for professional gamblers who are not addicted they always have a big commitment and can always get small profits from skill based games and avoid games luck based.

Whether you do like it or not, you would really be passing up into that condition or situation on which there would really comes a time that you would really be that semi-addicted with gambling even if we do say that you are really having that good self control on which there would really be a time that you would really be that eager on trying to catch up those wins even if it means that you would be needing to bet or deposit more money. It is really just that depending on how you do able to control yourself into this kind of situation. It is really normal though since we are just humans and if on the time that you cant really be able to control yourself then this is where issues and problems would really be starting to show up. So its better that you shouldnt really be waiting for this time to come.

That's a good decision to make, instead of pushing for more, using the money that he earns from gambling to something that can grow like investment
or any type of business will allow him to enjoy more.

There are people who got lucky and manage to takeaway something from the house, some continue to play and use that experience as edge
while some really calculated their budget and make sure that money and time is well taking cared.

Those who set their limitation and manage to execute the strategy might be addicted to it in a good way.

He only got moved by the fact that he can't lose to a novice, as you said. That's the fall of most men today, believing that some people can't be better than them in their field. Gambling is not a game where we'd be moved by the reactions of people around us, like in the story, the man was bothered by the laughter of those around him. He wasn't prepared to face the shame and, hence preferred to lose more money to cover for it, thereby chasing loss. The story is nice and also helps to prove that some professional gamblers can still get addicted to gambling. Because at some point, they won't be able to control their emotions and make a series of mistakes, without knowing or being aware of it. We all have different motives and our actions change each day of the gambling session. The game can change, and the results may seem promising, so the gambler may play reluctantly, trusting that he will win, just in a few predictions.

A professional can be challenged with such a situation, where he thinks it's his day and nothing can stop him from seizing the opportunity. Not realizing that no gambler has a day. Outcomes or results change, hence nobody is entitled to winning, alone. A newbie can win more than a pro, someday. Those who gamble because others did, will deceived into thinking that if a newbie wins, while won't there win also. In the process, they'll end up losing all their bank roll and rush to take loans to gamble, like in the case of the man in the movie, illustrated above. Once it gets to taking a loan the gambler is close to becoming addicted, as he can't wager games with his full mind anymore. He will play to gain back enough money to fund or pay back his debts. Therefore, putting himself in a more severe problem, all because of a mistake he made out of ego or trying to prove that he's a competent gambler. Anybody can get addicted, not minding his level of gambling knowledge, pro or new.

Are you saying that before you can be a successful gambler you must have gone through some kind of regular losses that one cannot control and as well addiction? Buddy it's all wrong. Some gamblers are just lucky that during their first month or week of gambling they got a massive cash out. Sincerely speaking, in my country a guy took a bet from a friend, and this was his first time. He asked for games, and they gave him. He used a good amount and staked it and was lucky to win very big. Ever since that day he stopped gambling and was very successful.