Topic: As a Gambler and a Die-Hard Fan of a Club Would you Bet Against your Club - page 3. (Read 1196 times)
June 22, 2023, 11:07:56 PM
Let's be realistic here and be practical as well, even if the team i supported pays me being their fan i can still gambles against them to face the reality in case of situations that am very much convinced that their performance will not yield the expected results with the opposition they are facing being stronger than them, this is all about being straight forward ad accepting the conditions of how thigs appear without been bias, they are my team but i see them not being capable enough to make win on the bet am gambling with, i will rather let Justice rule than pretend and loose my bet
June 22, 2023, 09:47:45 PM
With a gambler who are aiming for money, it's not important to bet whether it's their favorite team or not, as long as they see good opportunities and the odd is decent they will take that in hope that they will win the bet. But with those casual gambler who wanted to bet while watching, it can add excitement and enjoyment if the team that they love are performing and the bet have a better chance to win.
Sometimes it's really hard to bet against my favorite team but money matters. Depends on how juicy the odds are, I might bet against my favorite team as long as it's reasonable to do so. In case the odds are favoring my criteria and it happened to be with my favorite team, I will go that way.
I admit that even though there are times I understand the risks that my favorite team is on the verge of losing in their upcoming match, I risk some money on them thinking of the possibility that they might turn the game upside down and upset the considered favorite team in that match.
If that happened, a good profit is waiting but not always the case that I will repeatedly be doing it.
Well , I really admire that , going against our team is something that at least costs me a lot , I think I Still don't have the heart to do something like that , However it's good to read all the Opinions and the truth is how they do so that have Clear thinking without involving Feelings, and that is what is Difficult for many , As I said before we will always have those Options but it is Difficult to take it, I Think that one way is to do it and then no longer see the Outcome of it , that could also be a Solution , Personally I think Things can Happen like this and try to Forget what was Done.
June 22, 2023, 08:56:00 AM
actually I don't like soccer
In this context it may not only be soccer that is involved, we can include any sports or game in gambling, we al know how some fans could be as fanatic with the club or team they support and I think that's good on a real sense but when it comes to gambling, we don't have to bring a sentiment into it except if you have that assurance and confidence in their performance because here the reality is being unfolded in their performance and you wouldn't want to act silly supporting them knowing they could not perform well and your money also involved in betting.
But throughout the world, football has become the sport that most people enjoy, from small children to the elderly, regardless of background.
One thing that makes football betting develop and is always there everywhere because football always has matches every day and this makes it easier for bettors to choose which matches to bet on.
Being fanatical about a football team is normal because by being a fanatical fan they get a sense of satisfaction when the team they support wins, but I myself don't really care about being a fanatic or not because when betting, the most important thing is just determining which club can give me a chance for win.
June 22, 2023, 07:42:39 AM
actually I don't like soccer
In this context it may not only be soccer that is involved, we can include any sports or game in gambling, we al know how some fans could be as fanatic with the club or team they support and I think that's good on a real sense but when it comes to gambling, we don't have to bring a sentiment into it except if you have that assurance and confidence in their performance because here the reality is being unfolded in their performance and you wouldn't want to act silly supporting them knowing they could not perform well and your money also involved in betting.
Yes this, not only about football, in the context of this discussion can be associated with anything that does not have to be fixed on the football, sports such as volleyball, basketball and others are also still in the same line.
Yes basically we must be more realistic when we see the comparison between the team we enjoy and the opponent, because indeed in the process of gambling fanatical sentiment must be eliminated because it is if the orientation is the advantage in gambling.
As an example, I like the basketball team A who will face the basketball B team that has a different advantage from the team that I like (team A), if that's the one who picked up realistically I would choose team B to bet.
June 22, 2023, 07:41:58 AM
When betting i don’t let my emotions take charge, nobody wants his team to loose but when the odds are not in favor of my team and in actuality i can clearly see it would be difficult for my team then i will have to bet against them but in most cases i often choose not to bet on the game, i skip that match because I can’t bear to see my team loose. But come to think of it, if the odds are against your team and you end up placing a bet against them and the outcome was positive, your team lost but you won the bet i don’t think you will be sad about the outcome. It happened to me once and i was not that sad because i have money to spend. Its just like someone pay you if your team losses.
I can't stand watching my team lose, and I can't gamble on them knowing full well that they can lose and jeopardize my chances of winning.Of course, gambling is about the best team winnings, but I don't care for my team because money must be generated in every instance. I'm never going to skip one of our games because the odds don't favor my favorite club, of which I'm a fan; those players make their money, and we just have to do the best we can with the alternatives. I would urged my colleagues not to beckon up their favorite clubs, they should do whatever it takes to be on the winning side. 
June 22, 2023, 07:26:19 AM
When betting i don’t let my emotions take charge, nobody wants his team to loose but when the odds are not in favor of my team and in actuality i can clearly see it would be difficult for my team then i will have to bet against them but in most cases i often choose not to bet on the game, i skip that match because I can’t bear to see my team loose. But come to think of it, if the odds are against your team and you end up placing a bet against them and the outcome was positive, your team lost but you won the bet i don’t think you will be sad about the outcome. It happened to me once and i was not that sad because i have money to spend. Its just like someone pay you if your team losses.
June 22, 2023, 07:09:19 AM
actually I don't like soccer... I saw my nephew who likes soccer even he memorized the names of club players from everywhere. borrow money from me.. even though sometimes he often loses.. but like soccer gambling habits.. he doesn't think about the risks.. most importantly he feels happy and happy.. from that I can conclude that we must be able to control ourselves from habits gamble.. don't regret it later.. money can change someone's situation
Even if he likes betting on his favorite team or understands how sports betting works, what he does is a wrong practice which is to borrow money from someone to gamble, and if he gets in the habit of that, it can be destructive for him in the future because he will later on start taking bigger loans only to gamble and if he manages to lose that money, he can get himself in big trouble that he might not be able to come out from.So it's obviously better if you advise him either not to gamble or not to borrow money for it because borrowed money if lost in a bet will be a problem since he wouldn't be able to pay it off, now it's you he is borrowing from so he doesn't have much of a problem, but he will if the lender is an outsider.
June 22, 2023, 05:47:58 AM
actually I don't like soccer... I saw my nephew who likes soccer even he memorized the names of club players from everywhere. borrow money from me.. even though sometimes he often loses.. but like soccer gambling habits.. he doesn't think about the risks.. most importantly he feels happy and happy.. from that I can conclude that we must be able to control ourselves from habits gamble.. don't regret it later.. money can change someone's situation
I don't really get your point.Are you trying to tell us that betting on our favorite club is a bad habit? Or betting for entertainment purposes is the wrong way?
There is nothing wrong with your nephew when he gambles for happiness. That is good, he doesn't chase the winning or being too obsessed with the prizes. But borrowing money for gambling is he bad idea, you should stop giving him money for gambling. If he asks to borrow money, you are better to explain to him that you only have money for daily needs. You must tell him that he shouldn't gamble with loan money for safe gambling. When a gambler uses loan money for gambling, it is no longer ideal gambling. Since the main purpose is for entertainment or happiness only, he doesn't need to force himself to gamble when he has no money.
You can help your nephew to gamble in a better way!
June 22, 2023, 04:20:33 AM
actually I don't like soccer
In this context it may not only be soccer that is involved, we can include any sports or game in gambling, we al know how some fans could be as fanatic with the club or team they support and I think that's good on a real sense but when it comes to gambling, we don't have to bring a sentiment into it except if you have that assurance and confidence in their performance because here the reality is being unfolded in their performance and you wouldn't want to act silly supporting them knowing they could not perform well and your money also involved in betting.
June 22, 2023, 04:00:38 AM
But I can still say that even some die-hard fans can still bet against their team once they are sure that the game will come and they will win the bet. This makes me remember one of my friends who may be die-hard Arsenal fans, but whenever Arsenal is having a match against Manchester City, it always stakes on Manchester City to win Arsenal, and it always happens. It has been doing that now for over two seasons now. So I just believe that the spirit of money can change someone easily.
This isn't about the spirit of money changing people but people knowing the right thing to do. Gambling is a business and you should try your best to always win when gambling. Don't intentionally sabotage yourself just to make your emotions fell alright, that's wrong.
Gambling should be done without emotion attached, an alternative decision you can take is not to gamble for that particular game. Keep the money for other bets since you know your team is going to lose but when you have the chance to make money on that bet, take the chances.
You should take that chance because those type of bet don't always come regularly when you see an opportunity to make money take it . You're not harming your favorite team by betting against them instead you're helping yourself to detach your emotions from your bets.
June 22, 2023, 02:26:28 AM
actually I don't like soccer... I saw my nephew who likes soccer even he memorized the names of club players from everywhere. borrow money from me.. even though sometimes he often loses.. but like soccer gambling habits.. he doesn't think about the risks.. most importantly he feels happy and happy.. from that I can conclude that we must be able to control ourselves from habits gamble.. don't regret it later.. money can change someone's situation
June 21, 2023, 09:20:23 PM
In these cases it is difficult to separate the reason from the heart, and it is the duty to be, and personally I have never done it, well, only one day I tried to do it and I couldn't, I bet on my team even though I was going to lose, but it was my team from the national team, it is impossible for one to bet against the country one was born in, so that is why I say that it is very hard to separate reason from the heart, of course that is what makes us human and every time better , but sometimes when it comes to money we have to have an iron reason and see things in a more fair and technical way, it is difficult, but I have not been able to achieve it.
The emotion that we feel in our hearts is I think much stronger than the reasoning made by our mind. So just go where your heart says. I see that you lose your money but at least you are true and you support your country's very own team.Even if they came up as a loser, they will still be a winner in your eyes because you know that they try their best to make your country proud. Not all people are the same. Some are not like you who don't see money as everything, so they can be able to bet on the opposing team because they think they are much stronger. They will never feel guilty about it but they will only regret once they made a wrong choice.
Yes, and I have tried to control that, because sometimes reason and intelligence are much better , because money is earned with intelligence , but when there are so many emotions and feelings it is difficult , I think I will never be able to do something like that, It's just that I know that they're going to lose the same bet in favor, it's like that sense of belonging, I wouldn't know how to explain it, but in all cases I think that people Around the world tend to be like that, they aren't capable of going against it. of his, because it is a betrayal and it is something that would not feel very good , Because as Humans our conscience will not leave us Alone.
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June 18, 2023, 05:42:14 PM
It remains a nice situation if you have bet a considerable amount of money on your team or against your team. If you are involved in betting money on a team of your own, then perhaps you should bet it on a win or a positive market of your team. After all, you only have to hope for 1 team to win. I don't think it's nice to see if you have bet money on the opponent of your favorite team, then you still hope that the money wins and then your favorite team can suffer a defeat.
Well, this is your opinion my friend, if this is what it takes to be a die hard fan, then I disqualify myself from being a die hard fan, what ever team I support does not pay me money, I work really hard to earn my money, It will be foolish of me to waste my money in such a manner, I honestly do not look at my favorite team when It comes to betting, I simply bet on the team I think has the potential to win the match, If the club I support is playing against another club, and the other club has a good potential to win the game, I simply bet for that other club, I put my money where it could bring me more money, money is hard to come by and shouldn't be wasted all in name of supporting a club, after all, If I bet for my favorite club and they win the match, they won't pay me, and neither will they pay me my money back if they lose the game. 
June 18, 2023, 05:40:16 PM
Even if someone is not a die-hard fan, no fan will be happy for other teams to beat the team they are supporting. Seriously, it will be hard to bet against your team as a die-hard fan because you never pray for your team to lose.
But I can still say that even some die-hard fans can still bet against their team once they are sure that the game will come and they will win the bet. This makes me remember one of my friends who may be die-hard Arsenal fans, but whenever Arsenal is having a match against Manchester City, it always stakes on Manchester City to win Arsenal, and it always happens. It has been doing that now for over two seasons now. So I just believe that the spirit of money can change someone easily.
But I can still say that even some die-hard fans can still bet against their team once they are sure that the game will come and they will win the bet. This makes me remember one of my friends who may be die-hard Arsenal fans, but whenever Arsenal is having a match against Manchester City, it always stakes on Manchester City to win Arsenal, and it always happens. It has been doing that now for over two seasons now. So I just believe that the spirit of money can change someone easily.
June 18, 2023, 05:27:24 PM
As a gambler and a die-hard fan of a club that has been having a terrible season, would you bet against your club, knowing that their loss would be your financial gain? Or would you stay loyal and not bet against them?
I place a bet according to which team has a better chance to win the match. Even though I'm a Chelsea fan, I will never bet on Chelsea if they are against Man City or Man United. The chance to win against these teams is almost zero (0). 
So, when it is about betting, I don't care about my favorite team. We should understand that betting requires some money, so the result is necessary. In this matter, we must feel more realistic, we can't force betting based on our loyalty only.You mean this season right!
If you continue with this pattern, Chelsea will ruin your bets by next season because they are bouncing back with Pochettino best strategy that haven't been seen in EPL. Joke aside, betting doesn't have anything to do with emotion, it's all about how to win and win, your favorite doesn't comes when it comes to gambling, as long as they are capable of winning or making your predictions goes as plan, then that's a welcome idea. I have bet on my teams multiple times without number to win and yet they lost, I don't think there's anything wrong if I bet on them to lose the next time I try similar bet again, everyone bet to make money and not to become poor. 
June 18, 2023, 04:22:21 PM
As a gambler and a die-hard fan of a club that has been having a terrible season, would you bet against your club, knowing that their loss would be your financial gain? Or would you stay loyal and not bet against them?
Sometimes in gambling, we don't have to be so idealistic. Indeed, we must continue to support our favorite club. But in my opinion, and what I think is, in terms of this betting, I will be more realistic. For example, at some point my favorite club is against a superior club and based on predictions, my club will lose, so it's better if I take another position, I don't have to always be at that club. Because sometimes, I need money more than my ego over fans of something. Is this wrong? However, I just want to be more realistic on this one. ha ha 
June 18, 2023, 04:15:45 PM
It remains a nice situation if you have bet a considerable amount of money on your team or against your team. If you are involved in betting money on a team of your own, then perhaps you should bet it on a win or a positive market of your team. After all, you only have to hope for 1 team to win. I don't think it's nice to see if you have bet money on the opponent of your favorite team, then you still hope that the money wins and then your favorite team can suffer a defeat.
June 18, 2023, 04:06:19 PM
Let's just admit that no matter how die hard fan you are when you're in need of money and you know the odds are favoring and you've got a sense on who's gonna win.
It won't matter to you that you're a die hard fan and you'll even have to reason out to yourself that this is just one-time thing but you'll still be a fan of theirs.
Well, we can be sure that there have been gamblers like that.
It won't matter to you that you're a die hard fan and you'll even have to reason out to yourself that this is just one-time thing but you'll still be a fan of theirs.
Well, we can be sure that there have been gamblers like that.
June 18, 2023, 04:01:15 PM
Yes. This is what I like (enjoying the game and supporting my favorite team).
Supporting your favorite team in any situation and condition in the form of a game is something that everyone, including us, definitely does.
In fact, I rarely even miss my favorite team's matches when they compete with any team.
And as you said, of course I separate the matter of bets (money) because talking about bets is talking about odds.
Supporting your favorite team in any situation and condition in the form of a game is something that everyone, including us, definitely does.
In fact, I rarely even miss my favorite team's matches when they compete with any team.
And as you said, of course I separate the matter of bets (money) because talking about bets is talking about odds.
If the opportunity comes from the opposing team, then we have to think using the gambling brain, who is worth betting on, he will get his place. But maybe the number of bets I will use is less than what I usually use, because I also support my favorite team. and there are two advantages, when the favorite team loses then we will get a win from the bet, but when the favorite team wins we will get pleasure. That's fair enough isn't it and won't stress us out.
June 18, 2023, 04:00:34 PM
You always have a winner and a loser if such a situation were to arise. But it's also a moral thing, why gamble against your own team that you're a fan of? There are many games that you can bet on. If you are going to bet on your own team, bet on a win on your own team or at least on a positive market of this match. Betting on the opponent is actually asking for trouble in advance if you ask my opinion. I don't think many gamblers would do such a thing either.
On the contrary, many bettors make a bet against their club in order to sweeten the bitterness of defeat a little in case of failure.
Personally, I can say about myself that although I am a fan of some clubs, I am not a fanatic, so for me there are no problems making any bet - I separate these two activities for myself.
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