Topic: ASICMINER Speculation Thread - page 191. (Read 808847 times)
c'mon guys, back on topic, it's frieday not (butter) flyday
I'm a miner. I want to buy mining hardware.
You cannot mine with promises.
That applies to these new Blades as well given that they've only just been announced and haven't shipped yet.
I'm a miner. I want to buy mining hardware.
You cannot mine with promises.
That applies to these new Blades as well given that they've only just been announced and haven't shipped yet.
Go ahead, less idiots to respond to and my comments will go unchallenged.
I'm a miner. I want to buy mining hardware.
You cannot mine with promises.
I did not realize nothing was more profitable than something... shit, learn something new each day
You can keep repeating that nonsense as much you want, but you'd have to be the most idiotic of idiots to actually believe that BFL hasn't shipped any products. Jalapenos are currently mining as we speak, can the same be said of mini Blades? So yes, something (Jalapeno) is more profitable than nothing (mini Blade).
BFL are currently saying all back orders will be shipped by September, that's only 2 months away. K16s will be shipping as well by then. Like I have just shown with maths, instead of the nonsense spewed by you pumpers, it would take 2 months of mining with no difficulty increases for a mini Blade to be as profitable as its competition. That's not going to happen.
Instead of spewing nonsense, how about you show some maths which would indicate that these devices are at least as profitable as a Jalapeno and K16. You won't do that because you can't.
Your post is full of optimistic assumptions. The mini blades will be shipping out extremely soon (they were just announced ffs) and AM already shipped out tons of blades in the last 2 months, way more than BFL is capable of putting out. Also, only a handful of BFL's higher end miners have been shipped while the vast majority are still waiting two weeks™ for theirs.
I don't think it really matters whether these new mini blades will be profitable; the argument is that BFL has a year of backlog to deal with and there is no reason to believe they will suddenly ship everyone's unit in 2 months. Neither is there a reason to believe that KNC will be any different than Avalon/BFL in terms of delays.
That's not the argument at all. The only reason I even mention BFL is because it has a 5Gh/s miner and is therefore a competitor. The argument is precisely the profitability of the mini Blade vs that of the competition. To pretend otherwise is simply a smokescreen to avoid the fact that these Blades are still overpriced.
I'm a miner. I want to buy mining hardware. I will not be buying any of these at those prices though, because they are still less profitable than their competition. If that wasn't the case, then I'd be buying some.
I love how people compare asicminer miners to BFL miner. Dude. I mean dude. You know that when you order ASICMINER device you get it within couple days? If you were to order Jalapeňo today you will be happy to get it this year. Enough said.
Did you even bother to read the post you responded to? I compared the mini-Blade with a Jalapeno and a Klondike K16, then I showed that in order for the mini-Blade to be competitive, you have to assume that difficulty will not increase for the next 2 months. So, if you buy a mini-Blade today and it ships just in time to come online after this difficulty increase, and I buy a K16 today and it's shipped to me in 2 month time, the K16 will be more profitable and no amount of bullshit will change that fact.
Given that fact, how can you possibly claim that they're not still overpriced?
Why do we have to keep going over this? An item is only overpriced if there aren't enough purchasers willing to pay the price offered. ROI is another story, but as far as AM investors are concerned, it's not really relevant at this time.
Profitability of a mini blade, assuming $75/BTC is a reasonable 3-4 months.
People are buying USBs like crazy (and remember, they have no ROI whatsoever) so I foresee the blades selling like crack cocaine.
Should btcusd go up, ROI can be more than merely decent of course.
Just my $0.02.
People are buying USBs like crazy (and remember, they have no ROI whatsoever) so I foresee the blades selling like crack cocaine.
Should btcusd go up, ROI can be more than merely decent of course.
Just my $0.02.
I did not realize nothing was more profitable than something... shit, learn something new each day
You can keep repeating that nonsense as much you want, but you'd have to be the most idiotic of idiots to actually believe that BFL hasn't shipped any products. Jalapenos are currently mining as we speak, can the same be said of mini Blades? So yes, something (Jalapeno) is more profitable than nothing (mini Blade).
BFL are currently saying all back orders will be shipped by September, that's only 2 months away. K16s will be shipping as well by then. Like I have just shown with maths, instead of the nonsense spewed by you pumpers, it would take 2 months of mining with no difficulty increases for a mini Blade to be as profitable as its competition. That's not going to happen.
Instead of spewing nonsense, how about you show some maths which would indicate that these devices are at least as profitable as a Jalapeno and K16. You won't do that because you can't.
Because BFL definitely definitely delivers when they say they will deliver. Right? Guys?
So, because they haven't lived up to their promises in the past, does that mean that then can't possibly live up to current and future promises? Of course not. Like I said though, 2 months assuming difficulty does not increase, 108 days assuming 15% increases per round. Do you think BFL will have shipped today's orders within 3.5 months?
Also, BFL isn't the only competition. Like I said, K16s will be shipping within 2 months.
Did you even bother to read the post you responded to? I compared the mini-Blade with a Jalapeno and a Klondike K16, then I showed that in order for the mini-Blade to be competitive, you have to assume that difficulty will not increase for the next 2 months. So, if you buy a mini-Blade today and it ships just in time to come online after this difficulty increase, and I buy a K16 today and it's shipped to me in 2 month time, the K16 will be more profitable and no amount of bullshit will change that fact.
Given that fact, how can you possibly claim that they're not still overpriced?
The problem is that K16 won't be shipped to you in 2 months. Do you know how slow with shipping Avalon actually is? Batch3 is currently delayed about 2 months.
rockxie just announced the new&mini blade. Here: http://vdisk.weibo.com/s/Jk4aV
new blade: 10GH/s=18.88BTC Group buy 18.68BTC
mini blade: 5GH/s=9.88BTC Group buy 9.68BTC
new blade: 10GH/s=18.88BTC Group buy 18.68BTC
mini blade: 5GH/s=9.88BTC Group buy 9.68BTC
here we go, people! who cares about tomorrow's dividend, I am ready for NEXT WEEK!
those are crazy prices! People are going to tear arms of anyone that will have these on hand! I hope they will be for sale in other places than in China!
Crazy expensive.
I wish you people who don't seem to be capable of basic maths would stop spreading complete and utter bullshit in the hopes of pumping and dumping.
10 BTC for a 5 Gh/s miner is shite. Jalapenos and K16s are a third of that price at the current exchange rate. The mini Blade would have to mine about 6.5 BTC before a Jalapeno or K16 ordered today actually shipped. Based on a difficulty of 25,590,229 (about 20% increase), the mini Blade would earn 0.092 BTC per day. By keeping the difficulty constant, it would take 66 days to mine 6.5 BTC. If we assume the difficulty increase by 15% per pound, then we get the following:
0.0982 * 12 = 1.1784
0.0851 * 12 = 1.0212
0.0740 * 12 = 0.888
0.0643 * 12 = 0.7716
0.0559 * 12 = 0.6708
0.0559 * 12 = 0.6708
0.0425 * 12 = 0.51
0.0369 * 12 = 0.4428
0.0321 * 12 = 0.3852
That's 6.5388 BTC over the next 108 days after this coming difficulty increase.
Once again, ASICMiner has set its prices to rip off gullible idiots who can't count and the competition, even though they're not shipping from the shelf yet, is still more profitable.
I love how people compare asicminer miners to BFL miner. Dude. I mean dude. You know that when you order ASICMINER device you get it within couple days? If you were to order Jalapeňo today you will be happy to get it this year. Enough said.
Did you even bother to read the post you responded to? I compared the mini-Blade with a Jalapeno and a Klondike K16, then I showed that in order for the mini-Blade to be competitive, you have to assume that difficulty will not increase for the next 2 months. So, if you buy a mini-Blade today and it ships just in time to come online after this difficulty increase, and I buy a K16 today and it's shipped to me in 2 month time, the K16 will be more profitable and no amount of bullshit will change that fact.
Given that fact, how can you possibly claim that they're not still overpriced?
If today I decided to purchase some hashing power, I could have AM blades running in less than a week. The chances of getting BFL power before Christmas if ordered today is a toss-up.
Order from AM and get a 6 month jump on hashing, or buy from BFL and get something that will require multiplying infinities for ROI. Seems like a no-brainer, so unless you ordered from BFL a year ago you might as well forget them as the are irrelevant to current purchasers.
Or you could just buy AM shares and get paid weekly
Disclaimer: I ordered 2x25Gh from BFL in April and am doubt I will see them before October.
Order from AM and get a 6 month jump on hashing, or buy from BFL and get something that will require multiplying infinities for ROI. Seems like a no-brainer, so unless you ordered from BFL a year ago you might as well forget them as the are irrelevant to current purchasers.
Or you could just buy AM shares and get paid weekly
Disclaimer: I ordered 2x25Gh from BFL in April and am doubt I will see them before October.
BFL ships two order days per calendar day currently. Not that much. And that's only Jalapenos, the easiest product.
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/stevegee58/226-jalapeno-paid-order-dates-per-shipping-day-july-9.html
They have around a year of backorder, so in half a year they should ship what you order right now. Good luck with that :-)
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/stevegee58/226-jalapeno-paid-order-dates-per-shipping-day-july-9.html
They have around a year of backorder, so in half a year they should ship what you order right now. Good luck with that :-)
I did not realize nothing was more profitable than something... shit, learn something new each day
You can keep repeating that nonsense as much you want, but you'd have to be the most idiotic of idiots to actually believe that BFL hasn't shipped any products. Jalapenos are currently mining as we speak, can the same be said of mini Blades? So yes, something (Jalapeno) is more profitable than nothing (mini Blade).
BFL are currently saying all back orders will be shipped by September, that's only 2 months away. K16s will be shipping as well by then. Like I have just shown with maths, instead of the nonsense spewed by you pumpers, it would take 2 months of mining with no difficulty increases for a mini Blade to be as profitable as its competition. That's not going to happen.
Instead of spewing nonsense, how about you show some maths which would indicate that these devices are at least as profitable as a Jalapeno and K16. You won't do that because you can't.
Your post is full of optimistic assumptions. The mini blades will be shipping out extremely soon (they were just announced ffs) and AM already shipped out tons of blades in the last 2 months, way more than BFL is capable of putting out. Also, only a handful of BFL's higher end miners have been shipped while the vast majority are still waiting two weeks™ for theirs.
I don't think it really matters whether these new mini blades will be profitable; the argument is that BFL has a year of backlog to deal with and there is no reason to believe they will suddenly ship everyone's unit in 2 months. Neither is there a reason to believe that KNC will be any different than Avalon/BFL in terms of delays.
I did not realize nothing was more profitable than something... shit, learn something new each day
You can keep repeating that nonsense as much you want, but you'd have to be the most idiotic of idiots to actually believe that BFL hasn't shipped any products. Jalapenos are currently mining as we speak, can the same be said of mini Blades? So yes, something (Jalapeno) is more profitable than nothing (mini Blade).
BFL are currently saying all back orders will be shipped by September, that's only 2 months away. K16s will be shipping as well by then. Like I have just shown with maths, instead of the nonsense spewed by you pumpers, it would take 2 months of mining with no difficulty increases for a mini Blade to be as profitable as its competition. That's not going to happen.
Instead of spewing nonsense, how about you show some maths which would indicate that these devices are at least as profitable as a Jalapeno and K16. You won't do that because you can't.
Because BFL definitely definitely delivers when they say they will deliver. Right? Guys?
I did not realize nothing was more profitable than something... shit, learn something new each day
You can keep repeating that nonsense as much you want, but you'd have to be the most idiotic of idiots to actually believe that BFL hasn't shipped any products. Jalapenos are currently mining as we speak, can the same be said of mini Blades? So yes, something (Jalapeno) is more profitable than nothing (mini Blade).
BFL are currently saying all back orders will be shipped by September, that's only 2 months away. K16s will be shipping as well by then. Like I have just shown with maths, instead of the nonsense spewed by you pumpers, it would take 2 months of mining with no difficulty increases for a mini Blade to be as profitable as its competition. That's not going to happen.
Instead of spewing nonsense, how about you show some maths which would indicate that these devices are at least as profitable as a Jalapeno and K16. You won't do that because you can't.
Could be a super frieday? High divs and BTC looks ready to spring $5 - $10 usd higher?
Smells like a rally brewing
Could be a super frieday? High divs and BTC looks ready to spring $5 - $10 usd higher?
rockxie just announced the new&mini blade. Here: http://vdisk.weibo.com/s/Jk4aV
new blade: 10GH/s=18.88BTC Group buy 18.68BTC
mini blade: 5GH/s=9.88BTC Group buy 9.68BTC
new blade: 10GH/s=18.88BTC Group buy 18.68BTC
mini blade: 5GH/s=9.88BTC Group buy 9.68BTC
here we go, people! who cares about tomorrow's dividend, I am ready for NEXT WEEK!
those are crazy prices! People are going to tear arms of anyone that will have these on hand! I hope they will be for sale in other places than in China!
Crazy expensive.
I wish you people who don't seem to be capable of basic maths would stop spreading complete and utter bullshit in the hopes of pumping and dumping.
10 BTC for a 5 Gh/s miner is shite. Jalapenos and K16s are a third of that price at the current exchange rate. The mini Blade would have to mine about 6.5 BTC before a Jalapeno or K16 ordered today actually shipped. Based on a difficulty of 25,590,229 (about 20% increase), the mini Blade would earn 0.092 BTC per day. By keeping the difficulty constant, it would take 66 days to mine 6.5 BTC. If we assume the difficulty increase by 15% per pound, then we get the following:
0.0982 * 12 = 1.1784
0.0851 * 12 = 1.0212
0.0740 * 12 = 0.888
0.0643 * 12 = 0.7716
0.0559 * 12 = 0.6708
0.0559 * 12 = 0.6708
0.0425 * 12 = 0.51
0.0369 * 12 = 0.4428
0.0321 * 12 = 0.3852
That's 6.5388 BTC over the next 108 days after this coming difficulty increase.
Once again, ASICMiner has set its prices to rip off gullible idiots who can't count and the competition, even though they're not shipping from the shelf yet, is still more profitable.
I love how people compare asicminer miners to BFL miner. Dude. I mean dude. You know that when you order ASICMINER device you get it within couple days? If you were to order Jalapeňo today you will be happy to get it this year. Enough said.
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