Usually the Ballon d'Or is decided based on the whole game, so even though Vinicius Jr. has a large fan following, his fans have called his name a lot. But usually the board members have decided on the whole player's style of play and everything. So I think that the right one is determined only on all these judicial analysis and qualified in that Rodri, he is one he keeps lower. But Vinicius Junior could not take his team far in the national team, although he is a good player but he is far behind in judging analysis.
Many football fans thought that the 2024 Ballon d'Or might be won by Vinicius Jr we have heard rumors many times. But when the award was finally announced we saw the opposite, with Spain midfielder Rodri instead of Vinny. The award is given based on how well a player has played at national level and how well he has played at club level. Vinicius Jr won several titles for Real Madrid last season including La Liga, Champions League and more. However, he could not perform as expected for his national team Brazil. On the other hand Rodri has performed brilliantly for his club as well as for the national team. He even won 2024 Euro for Spain. 
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Nobody mentioned Ronaldo, stop talking to the voices in your head.
Just try to come back to reality a little bit. The reality is that yes, when Messi played in Barcelona (with Xavi and Iniesta) he had mind-blowing statistics. The problem is that without them he was just trash (2010 World Cup) or mediocre (2011 America's Cup). At the same time, Xavi and Iniesta without Messi remained at an incredible level and won three major tournaments in a row - two European Championships + the World Cup. This is a legendary achievement for which it is difficult to come up with any comparison. You can write whatever you want, but that's the reality, they didn't need Messi, he was literally replaceable by any average player.
It’s incredible that this is the first Ballon d’Or in a long time that doesn’t have Ronaldo and Messi in it yet their names are still being dragged into the argument of this year’s Ballon d’Or winner. Rodri deserves the award, it’s my opinion and it’s objective. There are many more people who share the same opinion as me and that’s how Rodri won the Ballon d’Or. I don’t like the way Real Madrid fans and Barcelona are going about this matter, Vini is an amazing player and I think he deserves a Ballon d’Or but this year is Rodri’s. Just try to come back to reality a little bit. The reality is that yes, when Messi played in Barcelona (with Xavi and Iniesta) he had mind-blowing statistics. The problem is that without them he was just trash (2010 World Cup) or mediocre (2011 America's Cup). At the same time, Xavi and Iniesta without Messi remained at an incredible level and won three major tournaments in a row - two European Championships + the World Cup. This is a legendary achievement for which it is difficult to come up with any comparison. You can write whatever you want, but that's the reality, they didn't need Messi, he was literally replaceable by any average player.
Nice comedy, really appreciate it
It's funny that the best player in the world (Rodri) wasn't even nominated for the best player in the Premier League and wasn't included in the symbolic team of the best in the Champions League.
In case anyone has forgotten, Vinnie was named the best player of the season in the Champions League.
When people say Rodri doesn't deserve the award, they really forget that he is a defensive midfielder. Rodri has done well both for the national team and for his club this year. On the other hand, Vinicius Jr's national team performance was not good. The Ballon d'Or awards are usually based on a player's national team performance. Messi winning the Ballon d'Or in the year he won the World Cup is a prime example of this.
Usually the Ballon d'Or is decided based on the whole game, so even though Vinicius Jr. has a large fan following, his fans have called his name a lot. But usually the board members have decided on the whole player's style of play and everything. So I think that the right one is determined only on all these judicial analysis and qualified in that Rodri, he is one he keeps lower. But Vinicius Junior could not take his team far in the national team, although he is a good player but he is far behind in judging analysis.
I believe Vin Jr deserves to win the Ballon d'Or since he worked hard in the Champions League and the league, assisting his club in winning all of the trophies last season, and many people believe he is the one who should be rewarded. And I don't see what Rodri did last season; all they did was win the Euros and the league. Even in the FA Cup, Manchester United triumph. So I don't see any significant argument that they can declare that Rodri deserves it, because I see many key players all backing Vini Jr to win, but that's all they have to give the favorite what they wish to give. But, in my opinion, it is preferable for Vini Jr to win it than Rodri, and I am sure Rodri New is not the right person to win the Ballon d'Or, but he has no choice but to accept it. That is the first time I have seen obvious cheating because they can prove a fundamental point: Vini Jr. did not earn it. This will be a difficult season for Vini Jr. since he will believe that even if he does his best, he will not have the potential to win the prize.
Ancelotti is the men's coach of the year and he was nowhere to be found and non of the Madrid players was present at the Ballon d'or presentation night and it seems this is becoming a normal thing for players not to attend the event when they're not the Ballon d'or winner they choose not to go but this time around a whole team was absent. What could have been the reason for Madrid as a team not to attend and not even the coach?
Fine, we all can agree that the Ballon d'or is now messed up, is not like it was back then when it was all about Ronaldo and Messi. To me I think the credibility of the Ballon d'or is no longer there, the only player that deserves the Ballon d'or that I can remember since they started favoring a particular player is Benzema, the other ones have some fake shit around it. But I want to ask, is it right for a whole squad not to attend even the coach Ancelotti who is the best coach was absent, is it right?
Fine, we all can agree that the Ballon d'or is now messed up, is not like it was back then when it was all about Ronaldo and Messi. To me I think the credibility of the Ballon d'or is no longer there, the only player that deserves the Ballon d'or that I can remember since they started favoring a particular player is Benzema, the other ones have some fake shit around it. But I want to ask, is it right for a whole squad not to attend even the coach Ancelotti who is the best coach was absent, is it right?
I think it was out of anger that causes that, since none of their players are expected to win the Ballon d'Or, all the Real Madrid players, including the coach, were absent from the event. If that’s the case, I don’t think it makes sense for all Real Madrid players to be absent, as it sets a precedent. Other players may start being absent for similar reasons, which doesn’t benefit the season. If this continues, the Ballon d'Or will continue losing value.it’s not just this 2024 Ballon d'Or; many people have noticed that the award is sometimes not given to the most deserving player. But the truth is, it has happened, and nothing can be done about it now. The best thing for Real Madrid players is to keep up their hard work. It's very possible that next year’s Ballon d'Or winner could be Vinicius Junior, as many people were expecting this year.
- Erling Haaland 2023, Messi won it
I don't trust this organization either, they should be criticized for their voting system. When they hijacked Haaland's award to honor Messi, it completely lost its meaning for me. There are so many people complaining about this organization, it is very possible to create another alternative. I think it's high time to create a more transparent and reliable organization. More democratic and therefore more accurate results can be achieved with wider participation...
But this year own, I think it's high time defensive players start gaining recognition because this year their was no real candidate that was really deserving of the award, I am just laughing that people are saying that vinicious junior deserve it this year, and my question is, how? An attacking player that can't even get more than 20 goals a season and real madrid supporter are feeling entitled that because they won the champions league their player must win it, no, things aren't done that way.
Look at all the attacking players that won it in the past, all of them that year gave a good account of themselves when it comes to numbers of goals scored as an attacking player, but vinicious junior that didn't score more than 20 goals is thinking that he can win it through politics, no he does not deserve to win it this year with the kind of inferior numbers of goals he has to his name last season.
So in essence of what am trying to say is that Rodri is more deserving of the award this year than vinicious junior that is making it looks like he is being robbed, someone that didn't even score more than 20 goals as an attacking player? No.
This year's award was the talk of the world... 
. As much as people disagreed, there was a vote and the majority chose Rodri, period. I just thought Real Madrid's decision to boycott the event was very unnecessary, so the question remains: Would the award only have credibility for Real Madrid if they were the winner? It's unfortunate. A totally childish attitude from the club and from Vinicius Junior himself, who for now in my opinion is still not a complete player.
Not only today, even the Ballon d'Or award is often controversial because many factors affect the result, I think we must remember when Messi and Ronaldo competed for it and there was also a debate from the public who considered it appropriate or not their to get the Ballon d'Or, including when Messi was considered to have robbed the Ballon d'Or from Wesley Sneijder (2010), Iniesta (2018), Van Djik (2019) and also Lewandowski (2021), so it is undeniable that if the Ballon d'Or continues to present controversy for whoever the winner has been so far, I personally do not want to comment on whether or not Rodri is worthy of winning the award,because I think maybe voters have other reasons to vote for Rodri at this time . As much as people disagreed, there was a vote and the majority chose Rodri, period. I just thought Real Madrid's decision to boycott the event was very unnecessary, so the question remains: Would the award only have credibility for Real Madrid if they were the winner? It's unfortunate. A totally childish attitude from the club and from Vinicius Junior himself, who for now in my opinion is still not a complete player..
That wasn't necessary, and I didn't expect vinicius to cancel the flight he booked for his family and friends to Paris. It's simply means he was swimming in praises long before the event, that he couldn't stand it watching Rodri take home his trophy. Few days ago, Emilio Butragueno compared Vinicous to Pele, isn't it incredible? The spirit stemmed from all Madrid Base, and doesn't signify sportsmanship. And it's like they'll need explanations from EUFA and France Football, the organizers of the award.
Though I will have to admit the comparison of Vinicius Junior to Pele is off, I don't need to go through the news, sane as comparing Neymar Junior, Vinicius has a long way to go, passing Pele I doubt but Neymar is possible. Although I expect him after all these much disappointment to do much more better than before especially in his National team and he will probably win it next time, if he just ignore all this and do more.While Real Madrid has no entire right to speak of the unfairness of this year ballon d'Or award, they often have been in the gaining side, now it's clear to them that the award is not entirely fair since the requirement often changes yearly just to favor others more and expect you do really well above the others, you will be rob in the end.
This year's award was the talk of the world... . As much as people disagreed, there was a vote and the majority chose Rodri, period. I just thought Real Madrid's decision to boycott the event was very unnecessary, so the question remains: Would the award only have credibility for Real Madrid if they were the winner? It's unfortunate. A totally childish attitude from the club and from Vinicius Junior himself, who for now in my opinion is still not a complete player.
. As much as people disagreed, there was a vote and the majority chose Rodri, period. I just thought Real Madrid's decision to boycott the event was very unnecessary, so the question remains: Would the award only have credibility for Real Madrid if they were the winner? It's unfortunate. A totally childish attitude from the club and from Vinicius Junior himself, who for now in my opinion is still not a complete player. 
You do get the point why Vinicius Jr wasn't given the award because of his attitude on the field. Vini wasn't having a fair play, to show his level of sportsmanship and integrity in the field of play. I think fair play was one, out of the three criteria that denied him of the Ballon d'Or Award. The top journalists, that was, the judges, used that to mark it bad for the award since class and fair play were added as the criteria; other than the two criteria, individual performance and team performance. Vini did wonderfully in those two areas, but his attitude in the field is zero. He doesn't show sportsmanship and integrity on the pitch when annoyed by other players.
I really get your point actually, a lot of people believes that the Ballon d'Or is just about the achievements of a player in the pitch of play by scoring a lot of goals and winning many matches and trophies but forget to understand that there are so many criteria that FIFA puts into consideration before the player is awarded. The overall performance of a player in the pitch of play, how he relates with teammates and coach, how he handles situations against his opponent while playing in a match and so many others are what counts in awarding a player the ballon D'Or. Vinicius Jr is a great player but his activities while on the pitch of play are off and unprofessional sometimes. However, Vinicius Jr still has the opportunity to make amends now and be more disciplined while playing, hopefully he can win the award in the future.
It’s incredible that this is the first Ballon d’Or in a long time that doesn’t have Ronaldo and Messi in it yet their names are still being dragged into the argument of this year’s Ballon d’Or winner. Rodri deserves the award, it’s my opinion and it’s objective. There are many more people who share the same opinion as me and that’s how Rodri won the Ballon d’Or. I don’t like the way Real Madrid fans and Barcelona are going about this matter, Vini is an amazing player and I think he deserves a Ballon d’Or but this year is Rodri’s.
Look at how Real Madrid is behaving very unprofessionally. When Modric won the award over Ronaldo, who had just left the club and joined Juventus, they didn't say it was rigged so their player could win. All these shenanigans from Madrid and the fans are so unnecessary.
That wasn't necessary, and I didn't expect vinicius to cancel the flight he booked for his family and friends to Paris. It's simply means he was swimming in praises long before the event, that he couldn't stand it watching Rodri take home his trophy. Few days ago, Emilio Butragueno compared Vinicous to Pele, isn't it incredible? The spirit stemmed from all Madrid Base, and doesn't signify sportsmanship. And it's like they'll need explanations from EUFA and France Football, the organizers of the award.
It’s incredible that this is the first Ballon d’Or in a long time that doesn’t have Ronaldo and Messi in it yet their names are still being dragged into the argument of this year’s Ballon d’Or winner. Rodri deserves the award, it’s my opinion and it’s objective. There are many more people who share the same opinion as me and that’s how Rodri won the Ballon d’Or. I don’t like the way Real Madrid fans and Barcelona are going about this matter, Vini is an amazing player and I think he deserves a Ballon d’Or but this year is Rodri’s.
I agree that Rodri deserves the award. He was consistent in every match he played last season from the beginning to the end. The om[only match he got a rating lower than 7.5 is the match in the premier league where he got a red card, other than that he was instrumental in every game he played with both Spain and Manchester City.
My problem is people that try to talk down in the award because their favourite didn't win it. Talking about how the award fell off and how it's rigged and shouldn't be taken seriously by anybody. All these won't be said if their favourite player had won it.
Look at how Real Madrid is behaving very unprofessionally. When Modric won the award over Ronaldo, who had just left the club and joined Juventus, they didn't say it was rigged so their player could win. All these shenanigans from Madrid and the fans are so unnecessary.
You've been brainwashed, you're completely out of touch with reality
2008-2012: Xavi and Iniesta won everything Messi did at club level + became European Champions twice + World Champions.
Messi screwed up at the 2010 World Cup without them, and was a dull thing at the 2011 Copa America.
2008-2012: Xavi and Iniesta won everything Messi did at club level + became European Champions twice + World Champions.
Messi screwed up at the 2010 World Cup without them, and was a dull thing at the 2011 Copa America.
Ronaldo fans~
Nobody mentioned Ronaldo, stop talking to the voices in your head.
Just try to come back to reality a little bit. The reality is that yes, when Messi played in Barcelona (with Xavi and Iniesta) he had mind-blowing statistics. The problem is that without them he was just trash (2010 World Cup) or mediocre (2011 America's Cup). At the same time, Xavi and Iniesta without Messi remained at an incredible level and won three major tournaments in a row - two European Championships + the World Cup. This is a legendary achievement for which it is difficult to come up with any comparison. You can write whatever you want, but that's the reality, they didn't need Messi, he was literally replaceable by any average player.
When people say Rodri doesn't deserve the award, they really forget that he is a defensive midfielder. Rodri has done well both for the national team and for his club this year. On the other hand, Vinicius Jr's national team performance was not good. The Ballon d'Or awards are usually based on a player's national team performance. Messi winning the Ballon d'Or in the year he won the World Cup is a prime example of this.
Usually the Ballon d'Or is decided based on the whole game, so even though Vinicius Jr. has a large fan following, his fans have called his name a lot. But usually the board members have decided on the whole player's style of play and everything. So I think that the right one is determined only on all these judicial analysis and qualified in that Rodri, he is one he keeps lower. But Vinicius Junior could not take his team far in the national team, although he is a good player but he is far behind in judging analysis.
Why did it have to be Rodri, shouldn't it be Vini who should have won the Ballon D'Or, then the narrative emerged that the award had been stolen from Vini, it wasn't fair, it was just a setup and so on.
Truly the logic of real madrid, is so entitled.
Sometimes most people don't actually knows how painful it is to be served with a dose of their own medicine.
When Luka modric won it when he doesn't deserve it either, instead of Cristiano Ronaldo, but they said that he deserves it, but and now that it doesn't goes their way they are now busy throwing tantrums that vinicious junior was robbed. The reality is that things mustn't always go our way all of the time and this is what Vini and Real Madrid just have to accept. I think Vini junior should go back to doing more maybe next time he would emerge as winner.
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You do get the point why Vinicius Jr wasn't given the award because of his attitude on the field. Vini wasn't having a fair play, to show his level of sportsmanship and integrity in the field of play. I think fair play was one, out of the three criteria that denied him of the Ballon d'Or Award. The top journalists, that was, the judges, used that to mark it bad for the award since class and fair play were added as the criteria; other than the two criteria, individual performance and team performance. Vini did wonderfully in those two areas, but his attitude in the field is zero. He doesn't show sportsmanship and integrity on the pitch when annoyed by other players.
At the moment, Vinnie has not received an award, apparently due to the confrontation between UEFA and the Super League. I hope it starts in 2025 and we can forget about all this FIFA/UEFA/their awards, tournaments, etc.
Why did it have to be Rodri, shouldn't it be Vini who should have won the Ballon D'Or, then the narrative emerged that the award had been stolen from Vini, it wasn't fair, it was just a setup and so on. Maybe the journalists did not choose Vini because of his attitude on the field, emotional, arrogant and provocative. The choice of journalists cannot be debated, there are 150 of them, they do not know each other, so how can it be said that the Ballon D'Or has been robbed from Vini.Check out Rodri and Vini H2H (Club + Country):
Can this picture above be true about Real Madrid
Rodri is not the best Manchester City player in the premier league Foden won the award, Rodri did not also win Manchester City best player for the club Foden won it also and in the Champions league Vinicius was the competition overall best player and I don’t think he was better than Foden in the Champions leagues also.
He won Euro best player but all the players did excellently well as it was a collective effort from all players.
Wait what?He won Euro best player but all the players did excellently well as it was a collective effort from all players.
First you value the best player in award, which is correct Foden won the award, while Rodri didn't. And it's true Vinicius was the best player in Champions League 2024.
But, when it comes to Rodri won the best player in EURO 2024, why it sounds like you're not happy to hear that?
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Club world cup and UEFA Super cup are all in the past I don’t think they count for this award. Rodri only won domestic cup but Vinicius won domestic cups and also the champions league. Vinicius was more deserving and he was rubbed off the award.
If it’s based on trophies then Lautaro should also be a worthy candidate as well.
Rodri won EURO, while Vinicius didn't win Copa America.If it’s based on trophies then Lautaro should also be a worthy candidate as well.
Lautaro isn't even able to compete with Vinicius and Rodri, let alone that trash.
Another good reason why Vinicius didn't win Ballon d'Or, because he has zero attitude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4l2MhgCIFk
After FIFA promoted Messi and gave him endless awards at the very beginning of his career, there is no point in talking about any more controversial awards. Corruption won a long time ago.
There is no controversial winner of the Ballon D'Or, France Football as the organizer has proven to still exist and maintain its credibility since 1956, even the FIFA Best Player event is less popular than them. The winners are chosen from votes by top journalists from all over the world and they choose from a list of nominees provided by the organizers, who is chosen of course depends on each person's taste.At the moment, Vinnie has not received an award, apparently due to the confrontation between UEFA and the Super League. I hope it starts in 2025 and we can forget about all this FIFA/UEFA/their awards, tournaments, etc.
Why did it have to be Rodri, shouldn't it be Vini who should have won the Ballon D'Or, then the narrative emerged that the award had been stolen from Vini, it wasn't fair, it was just a setup and so on. Maybe the journalists did not choose Vini because of his attitude on the field, emotional, arrogant and provocative. The choice of journalists cannot be debated, there are 150 of them, they do not know each other, so how can it be said that the Ballon D'Or has been robbed from Vini.Check out Rodri and Vini H2H (Club + Country):
- Erling Haaland 2023, Messi won it
I don't trust this organization either, they should be criticized for their voting system. When they hijacked Haaland's award to honor Messi, it completely lost its meaning for me. There are so many people complaining about this organization, it is very possible to create another alternative. I think it's high time to create a more transparent and reliable organization. More democratic and therefore more accurate results can be achieved with wider participation...
But this year own, I think it's high time defensive players start gaining recognition because this year their was no real candidate that was really deserving of the award, I am just laughing that people are saying that vinicious junior deserve it this year, and my question is, how? An attacking player that can't even get more than 20 goals a season and real madrid supporter are feeling entitled that because they won the champions league their player must win it, no, things aren't done that way.
Look at all the attacking players that won it in the past, all of them that year gave a good account of themselves when it comes to numbers of goals scored as an attacking player, but vinicious junior that didn't score more than 20 goals is thinking that he can win it through politics, no he does not deserve to win it this year with the kind of inferior numbers of goals he has to his name last season.
So in essence of what am trying to say is that Rodri is more deserving of the award this year than vinicious junior that is making it looks like he is being robbed, someone that didn't even score more than 20 goals as an attacking player? No.
- Erling Haaland 2023, Messi won it
I don't trust this organization either, they should be criticized for their voting system. When they hijacked Haaland's award to honor Messi, it completely lost its meaning for me. There are so many people complaining about this organization, it is very possible to create another alternative. I think it's high time to create a more transparent and reliable organization. More democratic and therefore more accurate results can be achieved with wider participation...
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