Topic: Ballon d'Or discussion and odds - page 4. (Read 2827 times)

Honestly, there have been confusion over the determining factor to win the Ballon D'or. We still don’t know what a player has to win to be able to win this award. Today, a player’s performance in the World Cup can get you this award. Tomorrow, you play well at club level and you get crowned the Ballon D' or. There are so many uncertainties around this award and with time, the award will become irrelevant if this continues. A lot of football fans believes Haaland should have won this award because he had a better season than everyone else. Talking about his achievements, he won the UCL, EPL, FA Cup and has broken goal scoring records in the process. It’s unfair that Messi wining the World Cup alone gave him this award.

After all, this is the most prestigious award in the world of football and this award is highly coveted by world-class football players.
And here I also think the same as you, that Erling Halland is the one who deserves this award, because I see Halland performing so perfectly in almost every match. but here I also think. Maybe this is the last gift given by FIFA to Lionel Messi before Lionel Messi really retires from the world of football.

Not Messi and not Ronaldo because their time is over, but "no" with Kylian Mbappe because with his relatively young age and quite good playing performance, I am sure that he can still perform well in the next few years and remain a candidate who is strong in the race for the Ballon d'Or for the next few years.

When asked of who should win the Ballon D'or this year, Pep Guardiola  said he had a great affection for the both players who cake first and second to win the award.  He went on to say  Messi had a fantastic world cup competition and should have it. Messi was also grateful he was crowned winner still he knew Haaland was better than him from his final speech given on stage.
Most people believe that Haaland should have gotten it and he should. He will do better this season having Pep Guardiola as his guide is a good opportunity he should be considered lucky to win it.

I don't want to discuss Messi's now well-known qualities and career, ok he won the World Cup last year and he certainly had a big impact on the final verdict, but in my opinion this edition of the Ballon d'Or seemed like a farce, Haaland did it extraordinary things throughout the year! broke record after record, won the Premier League and the Champions League but it wasn't enough to receive the right recognition for what he did. My congratulations to Messi for having obtained his eighth Ballon d'Or, a record that is difficult to replicate

The Ballon D'or certainly isn't fair given that people have to vote. Yes, I know Messi was great at the world cup and definitely did his best and won however, Haaland was also phenomenal last season. He was by far the best player but if the World Cup is the determining factor than I guess Messi deserved it otherwise it should have gone to Haaland given his man city performance last season.

This is quite the take on arguably one of the greatest players that football has ever witnessed. Putting Messi at the level of Totti and Muller clearly shows that you do not watch the sport at all or you support a rival club/player which makes you blind to what goes on in it.

I am not even a fanboy, I just watch football neutrally and call what I see. It is debatable whether Messi won this Balon D'or just as the one that Modric one and some Ronaldo won as well. That is football, fans have their opinions and can go extreme with it, but saying he "could" have gone does as a great athlete... is ridiculous.

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I think Haaland possibly should have been crowned but I understand why Messi was voted as the best player in the world. I mean domestically Messi wasn’t great but winning the World Cup was all he was missing from his trophy laden career.

I just feel like Haaland’s season was better than Messi’s. Possibly it was a sentimental reason Messi was crowned but I don’t think too many people will complain.

It’ll be interesting to see who wins it next year. It won’t be Messi or Ronaldo, their time is over due to age. It’s time for the new class to emerge.

Ronaldo is far away from taking the Ballon d'Or for many reasons, Ronaldo didn't have any won trophies this season compared to Messi or even Haaland.
Beside that, we can't compare the level of Saudi Arabia League and Europ leagues. By the history of Ballon d'Or winners we can see that they always favorite players with more trophies and each one has a value. World cup is the most valuable trophy even compared to UCL trophy.

For me, Messi really deserve his eighth Ballon d'Or, as he is the favorite competitor to win. I believe also in the next versions we will see a competition between Halaand and Mbappé.

Hahaha, you just don’t understand: according to the logic of the fanboys, if a team wins, then it’s Messi’s merit, but if it loses, then it’s the team’s problem, Messi has nothing to do with it 
Everything else works exactly the same - if Messi failed at the World Cup, then it is not important, if he failed everywhere except the World Cup, then the World Cup is important.

In general, it’s sad that Messi could have gone down in history as a great athlete even from “one team,” (far from the best, but at the level of Thomas Müller, Totti, etc.) but he went down as a great thief.

Messi is a play maker and that is what Haaland is not. A playmaker doesn't wait for Midfielders and wingers to do all the job for him to get the ball and score, a playmaker does the job of midfielder, winger and a striker and Messi has thia combination and that's why the record showed that Messi had more assist than other contenders in the list of runners. Winning the world cup was a booster that increased Messi chance of winning Balon D'or than any other players because even if it was Mbape that won the World cup, they will picked him over Haaland that won the treble because World cup is a very heavy and most desire trophy that comes around ones in every four years.



What are you saying Mr. Man, Messi won the League 1 twice in a row, how are they even better than him because Haaland won the Champions League and Premier League. Messi single handedly led other players to the World cup, without him no way that world cup is coming back home. Even Haaland presence wasn't felt in the Champions League final, no goal from him and no single assist but Messi was everywhere in the World cup from the group stage until the final. If it were to be like that and a vote was supposed to pass around without Messi been a contender, they will favour Mbape over Haaland because having to World cup back to back will definitely be an advantage for him.

You are right, FIFA manipulated the winner and that was why they gave it to their boy Lionel Messi. I still believe that football is not over yet and as the youngsters are coming up, we will still have another great name that will break Messi record on Ballon d'or, and this time that youngster might win it up to 10 times.

Now that the two rival are out of the competition, I am looking for to see a new superstar that will win it next year and we are watching closely, to see if FIFA will bring sentiment into it again. Let them just allow things to flow naturally in football. Messi won it, but he doesn't deserve it.

That's why Messi won, he has a big name, so people will close their eyes with the other nominations and choose him. You're wrong if you say football performance isn't a measure to win Ballon d'Or, FIFA itself already mentioned it their rules.


Haaland fill this two categories, he's very good in the field and he respect to everyone.

While the another guy who won the Ballon d'Or is only score by penalty kick where everyone can do that and he taunted Netherlands back because he was angry, there's no good behavior.

Acceptable or not with final decision Lionel Messi won Ballon D'or in this year although he hasn't not well performed with his current team such as PSG or Inter Miami but he won FIFA World Cup 2022 in Qatar with his national team Argentina. Indeed many controversial about Lionel Messi won Ballon D'or due related with Erling Haaland have good performed and scored many goals with Manchester City but he achievement treble winner from FA Cup, Premier League, UEFA Champion League and completed become top scorer is not important because he loss compete from Lionel Messi won Ligue 1 tittle and FIFA World Cup to be Ballon D'Or winner.

Due not transparent with vote announcement, I am not really sure with all vote favorite for Lionel Messi winning Ballon D'Or, they have see aspect or another achievement from Lionel Messi and his contribution exactly with his previous teams Inter Miami failed lead to playoff round in MLS League.

Ballon d'Or is no longer something you win; it's something you're given. It's not a reliable measure of football performance anymore. If we're comparing achievements like the World Cup (Messi) and the treble (Haaland), then shouldn't Alvarez win the Ballon d'Or since he's won both?

FYI, this award isn't decided by a committee. It's determined by votes from 100 journalists representing various nations. Each journalist has one vote.

IMO it was not fair. Messi didn't played well in his present club compared to the performance of Ronaldo in at El Nasir. I believe he actually won the Ballon d'Or because of the world cup he won and he had performed and manage his countries team to win.

Earlier today I had some conversations about this and led to some argument with my freind and neighbor. Most of them were sentimental because they love Messi and a loyal fan to him. One of them said something that changed my mindset. He said in other to win the Ballon d'Or it does not depend on the voting strength its different now. What is important is your input to the team you play with. When Mudrich won the Ballon d'Or he won world cup and played very well and his impact to his team was top notch.

Just win a world cup and you win the Ballon d'Or

If you look at who has won the awards since 1956 (excluding the Ronaldo and Messi era), you can see the years of football's glamor. Football is not a game like Basketball, where a match with a clear favorite ends with the clear favorite winning 99% of the time, and football is a game that has the potential to surprise the audience at any moment by presenting unexpected scenarios. The players who have won the Ballon d’Or have gone down in football history thanks to this aspect of football that can offer different stories.

Some of them won the award for their determined struggle to lead a mediocre team to the championship in the top league, some for leading a team to the first championship in its history, some for putting in a performance that stood out much more than forwards despite being defenders. After Messi and Ronaldo became the billion dollar advertising stars of the football world, the Ballon d’Or has evolved into something different. I think the awarding of the prize to Luka Modric in 2018 in the last decade was a reflection of the "old Ballon d'Or". I don't care about this award.

Just because he succeeded with Argentina in winning the 2022 World Cup, Messi won the Ballon d'Or for the umpteenth time and this really makes us a little disappointed with what FIFA did in selecting the winner of the Ballon d'Or trophy.
FIFA should prioritize young players and there is no need to make Messi their golden boy because in the future Messi will soon retire from football.
In my opinion, Haaland will get it and take home the Ballon d'Or trophy and when Messi was announced as the winner we smiled in disappointment at the decision.

Haaland only got the Gerd Mueller Trophy and this award was given because of Haaland great achievements last season by having 59 goals.

Who else should win it in the list of nominees? Haaland? of course no because he is a player that is not too good when their team is not attacking which why he score less goals this season when a player that is feeding him with long balls is injured and his team Manchester City are finding it difficult to score goals.

Messi is great player but I don't also think he deserve this Ballom d'Or this time because the team he played for last season which is PSG is in a league that is not that competitive, and Messi and other good players like Neymar, Mbappe and others cannot help them win Champion's League last season; for that reason, Haaland deserve it more based on club performance because Messi only Win World Cup, League one and small trophies while Haaland won Champions League, Premier League, Super Cup and FA Cup.

As we celebrate Lionel Messi, I also want to celebrate two Nigerian players who made it to the Ballon D'or ranking of this year. They are Victor Osimhen of Napoli who ranked number 8 in the list of rankings and Bukayo Saka of Arsenal who made it to the ranking too coming as the number 24th of the 30 total number of rankings.

Victor Osimhen has performed very well in the Serie A, Napoli club. In this season alone, he had appeared 8 times, started 7 games and scored 6 goals for the club. In last season, his appearance totaled 32 where he started 30 matches and scored 26 goals as well as making 4 assists of goals. Although he's weak in terms of offside awareness but he's very good in finishing. I think those are the reasons he had to appear at the first 10 of that list.

Bukayo Saka on the other hand, has played greatly well in the Premier league for the Arsenal club of London derby. Although Saka plays for England at the international games, Saka is a Nigerian by origin and will have the right to switch back to Nigeria national team if he wishes. In this season, Saka has appeared in 12 matches and started in all of the 12 matches with 5 goals and 5 assists. In the last season, he had made a total of 48 appearance and started in 42 of the those matches but scored 15 goals and assisted in 11 of the club's goals. Saka is good in crossing, holding on the ball, finishing and making key passes but a bit weak at tackling and concentration.

It finally held and Lionel Messi was awarded the Ballon d'or winner for the eighth time. Yeah! Cristiano Ronaldo stands as the only player who has won the Ballon d'or from the Premier League.
I don't consider them as the best no more, they're only having good marketing strategies. They're are not worthy to be called the best league in the world.

Lionel Messi helped PSG a big time. People who fail to see that are blind. Too much was expected from him, he was also doing both jobs, that of midfielder's and that of the attackers. Because of tue standards he has set at Barcelona, they really wanted seeing another top Performance from him at PSG, but I'm so sorry he couldn't!