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Quote from: uchegod-21 on October 28, 2024, 05:50:05 PM

Could this be the most controversial Ballon D'or
This could go down as the most controversial Ballon d'or in history. We have seen how 2018 went but this has many hype about Vini Junior. It was almost obvious that he will win it. Even the Madrid side has planed their party finish before what is perceived as robbery happened.

I heard someone say and I really affirm that this will affect Madrid greatly. This is because if Vinicius Junior doesn't win this for Madrid, it will be difficult for Mbappe to win this over him. Maybe the French organizers will continue to rig it. This will intensify the competition in Madrid camp

Ya to me this is the most controversial Ballon D' or since the history of football if Ballon D' or we're won easily just as Rodri did why hasn't players like Kelvin De Bruyne hasn't won it .
This year Ballon D' or award should have been given to Vinicius Junior he is the one that deserves the Ballon D or award and not Manchester City Rodri the robbery was clear I believe the white knows what they are doing for me I will clearly say that it is because Vinicius Junior is a black man despite he is from Brazil, Vinicius Junior has more goals than Rodri even won the UEFA Champions league with Real Madrid.
It is really going to affect Real Madrid but I hope they get it off there mind and focus with there football this season I don't think any of Real Madrid players went to the award venue because they felt betrayed by FIFA.

We all thought Vinicius Junior or Bellingham would win the Ballon D'or. Rodri won the Ballon D'or this year, probably nobody imagined. Rodri was probably not even in the top 3 of the Ballon D'or wins list. Vini was also confident in the news that he was going to win the Ballon D'or. He even clashed with Gavi in El Clásico, and still Vini said he was going to win the Ballon D'or.

I don't know if UEFA is biased. But as far as I know who wins the Ballon D'or is not entirely up to UEFA alone. The Ballon D'Or winner is voted for by an international jury of specialized journalists. So we can't just blame UEFA for not getting Vini Ballon D'or. I'd say it's Vini's bad luck.

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We saw yesterday that the 2024 Ballon d'Or ceremony was held in Paris. All football fans probably know that ,the Ballon d'Or is the best award in the history of football, and it is the dream of every player in the world of football to receive this award.

At the present time, i.e. in 2024, Spain's midfielder Rodri, who is a Manchester City player, won the Ballon d'Or. On the other hand, Aitana of Spain and Barcelona was selected as the women's player of the year. With Brazilian forward Vinicius Jr.'s performances this season we thought he might win the Ballon d'Or but no we haven't seen him participate in the ceremony. No player from his club Real Madrid participated in the 2024 Ballon d'Or ceremony. However, Real Madrid's coach Carlo Ancelotti was chosen as the best coach of the year and even Argentina's goalkeeper Lautaro Martinez was chosen as the best.

I will say Madrid attitude towards the recently concluded Ballon d'Or is very bad. How could they have boycotted the ceremony simply because the player from their club didn't win the award. If they thought Vini Jr should have won, that's how other people also thought that Rodri deserved it more than their player. If we are sincere with ourselves, Rodri performed more than Vini last season on individual basis. Rodri was instrumental for both club and country. Vini was only instrumental to club and wasn't phenomenal at country level. Despite our conflicting opinions a winner must surly emerge. I'm very disappointed with real Madrid attitude, it didn't speak good about them. Rodri has won it and he deserved the award. Congratulations to him and everything he represents.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on October 28, 2024, 05:50:05 PM

Could this be the most controversial Ballon D'or
This could go down as the most controversial Ballon d'or in history. We have seen how 2018 went but this has many hype about Vini Junior. It was almost obvious that he will win it. Even the Madrid side has planed their party finish before what is perceived as robbery happened.

I heard someone say and I really affirm that this will affect Madrid greatly. This is because if Vinicius Junior doesn't win this for Madrid, it will be difficult for Mbappe to win this over him. Maybe the French organizers will continue to rig it. This will intensify the competition in Madrid camp

Ya to me this is the most controversial Ballon D' or since the history of football if Ballon D' or we're won easily just as Rodri did why hasn't players like Kelvin De Bruyne hasn't won it .

This year Ballon D' or award should have been given to Vinicius Junior he is the one that deserves the Ballon D or award and not Manchester City Rodri the robbery was clear I believe the white knows what they are doing for me I will clearly say that it is because Vinicius Junior is a black man despite he is from Brazil, Vinicius Junior has more goals than Rodri even won the UEFA Champions league with Real Madrid.

It is really going to affect Real Madrid but I hope they get it off there mind and focus with there football this season I don't think any of Real Madrid players went to the award venue because they felt betrayed by FIFA.

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Quote from: Abu-Naim on October 28, 2024, 05:05:57 PM

The award has started losing it’s credibility from several players including fans since they now come with their own ways to give the award and the ways do looks different from what we usually know as fans.
Today, Rodri emerges the winner of the Ballon d’Or 2024, he actually did well last season and he deserve the award, but Vinicius Jr deserves the award more than he do because he is a player that is always noticed in almost all matches his team play, and the team relied on him; he won the Champions League, Laliga, Super Cup, and others, the only thing he lack is international trophy. Nevertheless, I think people will stop respecting the award because of the corruption that was brought to the system.

Rodri deserves it more in my opinion if you take a look at the stats. A best player is not about performing in champions league at the detriment of your country. If you did not agree with Rodri winning it, then it should be Lautaro Martinez or Carvajal but not Vinicius.

The truth is that people are always bais. When it favors them it is a good one but when it doesn't, it has lost its credibility. Both Ronaldo and Messi have been favored in different ways. Sometimes, it's very complicated to explain their stats of winning the Ballon d'Or in certain years they won it. Till tomorrow, some sets of people are of the opinion that Sneijder should have had one. Ribery and Neuer were not left out. Sadio Mane and Haaland were also subject of debate in the topic of Ballon d'Or denial. So the question of credibility depends on where your interest lies.

Unless you want champions league performance alone to determine the Ballon d'Or winner yesterday otherwise, Vinicius is not close to Rodri in any way in terms of all round performance.

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Well, it turns out that Fabrizio Romano was wrong about Vinicius Jr. winning the Ballon d'Or. Is this the first time, where Fabrizio Romano was wrong about something related to football? Grin

Rodri is a pretty consistent player and he won the English Premier League and Euro 2024. Vinicius won La Liga and the Champions League, but he didn't win Copa America. Rodri isn't a player, who scores lots of goals and maybe that's why many fans want the Ballon d'Or to be won by a player, who scores a lot. This is kinda immature, because many important players in football, likes defenders and midfielders are disrespected and overlooked, while the strikers, that score all the goals get all the glory and all the attention. Congratulations to Rodri.
Real Madrid boycotting the Ballon d'Or ceremony was a bad PR move.

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We saw yesterday that the 2024 Ballon d'Or ceremony was held in Paris. All football fans probably know that ,the Ballon d'Or is the best award in the history of football, and it is the dream of every player in the world of football to receive this award.

At the present time, i.e. in 2024, Spain's midfielder Rodri, who is a Manchester City player, won the Ballon d'Or. On the other hand, Aitana of Spain and Barcelona was selected as the women's player of the year. With Brazilian forward Vinicius Jr.'s performances this season we thought he might win the Ballon d'Or but no we haven't seen him participate in the ceremony. No player from his club Real Madrid participated in the 2024 Ballon d'Or ceremony. However, Real Madrid's coach Carlo Ancelotti was chosen as the best coach of the year and even Argentina's goalkeeper Lautaro Martinez was chosen as the best.

It is unimaginable that Rodri managed to get the Ballon d'Or title and of course it was very surprising result because we all know that the most favorite candidates are Vinicius and Jude Bellingham who are two of Real Madrid core players but both of them also only finished second and third, from several rumors circulating it is said that Vinicius and also Jude Bellingham seemed to feel disappointed with this result and that what made them not come to the Ballon d'Or award ceremony.
Haha some people still don't believe it but this is the result and everything has been officially announced and completed well, congratulations to Rodri for his achievement in winning the Ballon d'Or title as well as becoming the best player.

Yes it's really incredible that Rodri has achieved the Ballon d'Or winner, I thought maybe some other player would be a candidate this season. I was also pretty sure that Vinicius and Bellingham, who are the main players of Real Madrid, would win the Ballon d'Or, but they finished second and third. However, Rodri must be congratulated as the player of the year has been selected and the Ballon d'Or has been claimed, as it has been officially announced. But spreading various rumors will not bring any good result, rather what is officially announced will be correct and true.

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Quote from: cryptoWODL on October 28, 2024, 08:39:21 PM

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We saw yesterday that the 2024 Ballon d'Or ceremony was held in Paris. All football fans probably know that ,the Ballon d'Or is the best award in the history of football, and it is the dream of every player in the world of football to receive this award.

At the present time, i.e. in 2024, Spain's midfielder Rodri, who is a Manchester City player, won the Ballon d'Or. On the other hand, Aitana of Spain and Barcelona was selected as the women's player of the year. With Brazilian forward Vinicius Jr.'s performances this season we thought he might win the Ballon d'Or but no we haven't seen him participate in the ceremony. No player from his club Real Madrid participated in the 2024 Ballon d'Or ceremony. However, Real Madrid's coach Carlo Ancelotti was chosen as the best coach of the year and even Argentina's goalkeeper Lautaro Martinez was chosen as the best.

It is unimaginable that Rodri managed to get the Ballon d'Or title and of course it was very surprising result because we all know that the most favorite candidates are Vinicius and Jude Bellingham who are two of Real Madrid core players but both of them also only finished second and third, from several rumors circulating it is said that Vinicius and also Jude Bellingham seemed to feel disappointed with this result and that what made them not come to the Ballon d'Or award ceremony.
Haha some people still don't believe it but this is the result and everything has been officially announced and completed well, congratulations to Rodri for his achievement in winning the Ballon d'Or title as well as becoming the best player.

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We saw yesterday that the 2024 Ballon d'Or ceremony was held in Paris. All football fans probably know that ,the Ballon d'Or is the best award in the history of football, and it is the dream of every player in the world of football to receive this award.

At the present time, i.e. in 2024, Spain's midfielder Rodri, who is a Manchester City player, won the Ballon d'Or. On the other hand, Aitana of Spain and Barcelona was selected as the women's player of the year. With Brazilian forward Vinicius Jr.'s performances this season we thought he might win the Ballon d'Or but no we haven't seen him participate in the ceremony. No player from his club Real Madrid participated in the 2024 Ballon d'Or ceremony. However, Real Madrid's coach Carlo Ancelotti was chosen as the best coach of the year and even Argentina's goalkeeper Lautaro Martinez was chosen as the best.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on October 28, 2024, 05:50:05 PM

Could this be the most controversial Ballon D'or
This could go down as the most controversial Ballon d'or in history. We have seen how 2018 went but this has many hype about Vini Junior. It was almost obvious that he will win it. Even the Madrid side has planed their party finish before what is perceived as robbery happened.

I heard someone say and I really affirm that this will affect Madrid greatly. This is because if Vinicius Junior doesn't win this for Madrid, it will be difficult for Mbappe to win this over him. Maybe the French organizers will continue to rig it. This will intensify the competition in Madrid camp

What happen in 2018, exactly that moment, everything that concerns me holding strongly to see the top names on the Ballon d'Or list ruined. Real Madrid president, Florentino Pérez and the rest of the team didn't attend the Ballon d'Or ceremony because they already had a clue on the things that was going on. It's tense atmosphere for Los Blancos because they had everything to win the major awards and the big question pops out of nowhere, why are they not been fully awarded? They're team of the year, manager of the year goes also to Carlo Ancelotti but player of the year, Rodri. Funny as it sounds right?

Vinicius Jr not winning the 2024 Ballon d'Or and you expects him to be calm about the whole situation? The system is rigged because I find it difficult to explain how Rodri who's not even enlisted as Manchester City best player, Spain best player in the Euros won this specific award. This is absurd and I hope someday, Vinicius Jr lifts this award because he toil day and night to be on the top leader board this season.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on October 28, 2024, 05:50:05 PM

Could this be the most controversial Ballon D'or
This could go down as the most controversial Ballon d'or in history. We have seen how 2018 went but this has many hype about Vini Junior. It was almost obvious that he will win it. Even the Madrid side has planed their party finish before what is perceived as robbery happened.

I heard someone say and I really affirm that this will affect Madrid greatly. This is because if Vinicius Junior doesn't win this for Madrid, it will be difficult for Mbappe to win this over him. Maybe the French organizers will continue to rig it. This will intensify the competition in Madrid camp

I don't think so, when you talk about controversial I don't think this one can be one of it. When Lewandowski was suppose to win it they cancelled it and when Sneijder was suppose to win it they mixed everything up and gave it to Messi, just these two should be labelled as controversial, there could be more but this particular one Rodri deserve it than Vinicius Jr. In Brazil Vinicius Jr has nothing to show for but Rodri has a lot to show for and his performance has been impressive but I still wonder why people thinks it will go the way of Vinicius Jr or is it because he plays for Madrid? It mustn't have to be them, Madrid don't have anybody to win that award in a very long time and Mbappe can't even get close.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on October 28, 2024, 05:50:05 PM

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I cannot say that it is completely controversial just that it did not go the way most of us expected because for most of us, we expected that Vinicius junior will be the winner of this year's Ballon d'or, it did not end up that way as we expected, so we should not be quick into conclusions about the award because Rodri still deserved it. He was a big player, both for club and country, not recording any loss in 74 games he played in for over a year, that is a big record to show how much of an influence he is to both his club and country.

I know that Vinicius Jr will not be happy with this new development and that will affect him in this season, he will be more bent on proving a point, and other players in his club like Mbappe and Bellingham will also be in the competition to want to win the award next time. That can be bad for the team, when players start focusing on individual record.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on October 28, 2024, 05:50:05 PM

Could this be the most controversial Ballon D'or
This could go down as the most controversial Ballon d'or in history. We have seen how 2018 went but this has many hype about Vini Junior. It was almost obvious that he will win it. Even the Madrid side has planed their party finish before what is perceived as robbery happened.

Every year, some people always feel they’re robbed and I don’t think that will stop and will continue like that. The player you’re rooting for to win may not have the qualities or have passed all necessary check to make them the winner, but it does happens and they will always feel they’re robbed. I also feel Vinicius Jnr will win it and when it was announced that they will not be attending the ceremony after Vinicius was ruled out not to win the award, I felt bad about it. All this happens and we are already used to it by now.

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I heard someone say and I really affirm that this will affect Madrid greatly. This is because if Vinicius Junior doesn't win this for Madrid, it will be difficult for Mbappe to win this over him. Maybe the French organizers will continue to rig it. This will intensify the competition in Madrid camp

It won’t matter now who wins it first but it looks like they’ll both win it and that will give a very big challenge for them both coming from the same team. The criteria’s they use to pick the best player last season may differ from next season but I know individual performance will always be amongst them. This two players have to fight their way out to see themself individually outshining the other person to win the award.

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Quote from: Lida93 on October 28, 2024, 04:26:23 PM

The first goalkeeper to win consecutive Yachine Trophy awards. Emiliano Martinez winning the Yachine title for the consecutive time is well deserving. He puts in great performance for both his national team and in his club sife. Not every day we get to have such record made as the first goalkeeper to have won the trophy consecutively. Congratulations Martinez.

On the sideline, some persons are of the view that he's overrated and sure doesn't deserve it this time among other nominees like Unai Simon, Andriy Lunin, Gianluigi Donnarumma, Mike Maigan and others ... Not sure why but what do you all think about Martinez clinging the Yachine trophy once again?

I would say he very well deserve this award as there were no one just better than him. His biggest opponent would have been Courtois but he was injured almost the all of last season and wasn’t even invited for euros by Belgium. Lunin was superb for Madrid but he had a poor euro tournament with the Ukraine national team, his mistakes even made them go out early in the competition. Donnarumma to me shouldn’t even be there, Maigan cannot win it because of poor performance by France in the euros.

Meanwhile Martinez once again guide Argentine to Copa America, saving penalties and shots which to me were what grant them the trophy, for his club Aston Villa he guided them to a top four qualifying for the champions league, now they top the champions league all table at the moment with the club beating giant like Bayern Munich with Martinez been the man of the match so it was definitely deserved to me

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on October 28, 2024, 05:50:05 PM

Could this be the most controversial Ballon D'or
This could go down as the most controversial Ballon d'or in history. We have seen how 2018 went but this has many hype about Vini Junior. It was almost obvious that he will win it. Even the Madrid side has planed their party finish before what is perceived as robbery happened.

The Ballon d'or continue to lose it credibility, the requirement they disregard last time, is the same requirement used this time, I wonder what will be their criteria next year. Though it's more obvious now that it actually depends on politics rather than certain performance.

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I heard someone say and I really affirm that this will affect Madrid greatly. This is because if Vinicius Junior doesn't win this for Madrid, it will be difficult for Mbappe to win this over him. Maybe the French organizers will continue to rig it. This will intensify the competition in Madrid camp

The Ballon d'or has lost it credibility to Real Madrid now and I doubt they may will be interested or ever attend it again since it will mean the French organizers apologizing, I doubt that Perez will actually want to apologize after everything, it's ironic Mbappe came to Real Madrid to win the Ballon d'or but may likely leave in order to get it now.

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Could this be the most controversial Ballon D'or
This could go down as the most controversial Ballon d'or in history. We have seen how 2018 went but this has many hype about Vini Junior. It was almost obvious that he will win it. Even the Madrid side has planed their party finish before what is perceived as robbery happened.

I heard someone say and I really affirm that this will affect Madrid greatly. This is because if Vinicius Junior doesn't win this for Madrid, it will be difficult for Mbappe to win this over him. Maybe the French organizers will continue to rig it. This will intensify the competition in Madrid camp

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Quote from: Abu-Naim on October 28, 2024, 05:05:57 PM

The award has started losing it’s credibility from several players including fans since they now come with their own ways to give the award and the ways do looks different from what we usually know as fans.
Today, Rodri emerges the winner of the Ballon d’Or 2024, he actually did well last season and he deserve the award, but Vinicius Jr deserves the award more than he do because he is a player that is always noticed in almost all matches his team play, and the team relied on him; he won the Champions League, Laliga, Super Cup, and others, the only thing he lack is international trophy. Nevertheless, I think people will stop respecting the award because of the corruption that was brought to the system.

Every year, when the award is given there are always those who feel they were robbed. Every year. Even years when Messi and Ronaldo did the impossible to win it, there are always those who say the award is corrupt. Even when Messi won the world cup, there were people who felt Messi didn't deserve the balon d'or, so this year won't be different.

Speaking of Vinicius, he was good last season, but again, people overate his season. He had about 4 or 5 games in the late stages of the champions league where he was a beast. In the League, Bellingham was the better player. In the Copa America, he was horrible. Rodri was consistent all season long. He didn't have a single bad game and won the Euroes too.

If I were to give the award to anybody, it would be Lautaro Matinez. The only thing he didn't win is the champions league. He won the Serie A, was the highest goal scorer in the Serie A, and the best player in the leag. Then he won the Copa America with Argentina and was the highest goal scorer of the tournament and yet, he's not even in the top 5. So we can go on all day about who was robbed and who wasn't.
France football had three criteria of selecting the winner and if you use that, 2 of those already disqualifies Vini.

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People are worried because they believed that what happened in the past shouldn't have happened again when it is believed that everything is done openly now and the performance of a player is no longer hidden as some people claimed that it could be the reason why the supposed winners then were denied of the award. The players you mentioned here were supposed to have be awarded some time but nothing to say because the system has been corrupt right from the very beginning and today the world of football is watching what is happening again if nothing is done to see that those behind this robbery is brought to book believe me the Ballon d'Or Award will complete be ignored by most of the players and it will lose it value completely.

The award has started losing it’s credibility from several players including fans since they now come with their own ways to give the award and the ways do looks different from what we usually know as fans.
Today, Rodri emerges the winner of the Ballon d’Or 2024, he actually did well last season and he deserve the award, but Vinicius Jr deserves the award more than he do because he is a player that is always noticed in almost all matches his team play, and the team relied on him; he won the Champions League, Laliga, Super Cup, and others, the only thing he lack is international trophy. Nevertheless, I think people will stop respecting the award because of the corruption that was brought to the system.

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The first goalkeeper to win consecutive Yachine Trophy awards. Emiliano Martinez winning the Yachine title for the consecutive time is well deserving. He puts in great performance for both his national team and in his club sife. Not every day we get to have such record made as the first goalkeeper to have won the trophy consecutively. Congratulations Martinez.

On the sideline, some persons are of the view that he's overrated and sure doesn't deserve it this time among other nominees like Unai Simon, Andriy Lunin, Gianluigi Donnarumma, Mike Maigan and others ... Not sure why but what do you all think about Martinez clinging the Yachine trophy once again?

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Does Real Madrid believe that they are robbed or what? In the history of Balon D'or, Real Madrid is known for influencing it. Have they lost their powers now?

I don't know the kind of criteria that FIFA set for the Ballon d'Or Award this season, that Vinicius Junior didn't fall as the most chosen player for this year's World Best Players award. Learning about the Ballon d'Or Award was given to another fella, "Rodri," makes me feel like this is a daytime robbery that happened to Real Madrid, given how most people thought Vinicius Junior had the upper hand for the ward, based on his contributions to his club and country on Individual Performance, Team Performance and Class and Fair Play.

Vinicius Junior falls in and has a better record on the three criteria used for the Ballon d'Or Award. Having Rodri be the better candidate for the award in late minutes, looks suspicious.

I really don't know why you guys are being skeptical about this vini issue with the ballon Dior I mean they have been other players who have been robbed off their glory when ot comes to the ballon Dior like robben, sneider even iniesta the year he won the world cup with Spain and also lifted the champions league and both their la Liga title. So I would definitely not be surprised if the award is given to any other than vini besides I think the criteria still fall under votes to be casted by top football official like coaches and many so for me that award is certainly over rated.

People are worried because they believed that what happened in the past shouldn't have happened again when it is believed that everything is done openly now and the performance of a player is no longer hidden as some people claimed that it could be the reason why the supposed winners then were denied of the award. The players you mentioned here were supposed to have be awarded some time but nothing to say because the system has been corrupt right from the very beginning and today the world of football is watching what is happening again if nothing is done to see that those behind this robbery is brought to book believe me the Ballon d'Or Award will complete be ignored by most of the players and it will lose it value completely.

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Approaching this matter from the two sides of a coin I'll say yes or no about if Real Madrid were robbed in this year Balon D'or award. Vini jnr has contributed so much to the record breaking victory of Real Madrid in winning the champions league and the Laliga trophy simultaneously which is something to interest us with but internationally he has really made much impact on his national team side, the South America cup competition Brazil couldn't get to the final stage not to mention winning it. And I think it's part of what the officials incharge in the Balon D'or award has to beam their searchlight towards Rodri the Spaniard who was able to help his national team win the Euro tournament and winning the EPL too.

I think a lot of people already realise that everything that's going on now is a bit of a circus on Vinicius' part, and it will be if he really doesn't come to the ceremony and all the rumours about his inappropriate behaviour are confirmed, I really hope that he will at least adequately justify everything later. As for the fairness of the award - also debatable, Rodri though helped the team win the league, helped the national team win the championship, but I think that's very little compared to how Vinicius is playing

Talking about his behaviour and what some persons may wanna think about it, I think there's nothing wrong about his behaviour, for he's just an elaborate player that many persons just doesn't see fit to their liken and that's okay. He's not the first nominee to have boycotted the Ballon D'or ceremony because I not sure it's even compulsory that a nominee must attend. Still recall that the last Ballon D'or won by Lionel Messi he wasn't in attendance but still got it delivered to him and nobody said something about attitude or whatever. Not attending the award ceremony is his personal opinion and I'll chose to respect that irrespective of what others may wanna think.

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