[BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed Since 2014 - page 281.

slapper

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Quote from: orinoco on September 19, 2014, 12:30:49 AM

Anyone watching this thread about XMR?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/delete-786201

If xbc is right/honest and such a vulnerability exists, it's probably an issue for BBR too, as the vulnerability is allegedly in the ring-signature implementation (i.e. the cryptonote protocol).

Question is - is there such a vulnerability, or is it a market-moving FUD collusion?

edit: Choice of proposed names sucks. Boolberry is notably superior from a marketing perspective. Conservative is boring.

Vulnerability is related to hash rate and difficulty retarget and BBR differs from XMR on these. Right now BBR is getting dragged by Monero fanboys to make sure slippage to BBR doesn't happen and nothing else. I bet BCX never even knew where the BBR repo on github was let alone test it in sandbox like he initially started doing on XMR.

This is similar to what happened 2 weeks ago when XMR was attacked. XMR Fanboys were running around letting people know the vulnerability existing in BBR too (technically true), but BBR wasn't attacked and had implemented a fix.

This whole thing sucks because of a few dumbasses who are XMR propagandists, the market is not recognizing and supporting innovation.

smooth

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Quote from: OrientA on September 19, 2014, 01:37:01 AM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 18, 2014, 09:33:27 PM

Quote from: sussex on September 18, 2014, 08:18:46 PM

Quote from: windjc on September 18, 2014, 08:15:56 PM

Looks like someone(s) is accumulating. Guess not everybody thinks the rebranding is a bad idea

If you're so confident, allow a fair and open vote.

Rune sucks.

And that's checkmate. Well played sussex.

Let's do a open vote.

The problem with votes on this forum is they really do tend to devolve into ballot stuffing by trolls and sock puppets. There is no good mechanism to do it.

Probably better to just conduct an open poll, recognize that the results will be a bit of a joke, but at least everyone has a chance to be heard. The developers then just reflect on the input and make a decision (much as CZ did a long time ago when first deciding whether to keep or replace Boolberry).

A vote where choices are limited and where people's posts are being deleted is the worst of both worlds. Some feel muzzled or censored, all for no good reason because there is still no real integrity to it in the end.

scruffy scruffington

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You know, I have seen something similar to what happens in this thread. Such situations arises every time when marketing switch its goal from hardcore fans to casuals. I'm hardcore MMA fan and I have read many threads like this about what a shame to something that looks stupid or boring for hardcore fans, but very attractive for casuals. Every small MMA promotion should do things like adding prowrestling-like features, giving title fights to popular but not very strong fighters or even to retired veterans, etc. before it become big and popular. The reason is casual number is much bigger than hardcore fun number, and all big promotion gets main part of its money from casuals, not fans.

Here we have something similar: bitcointalk is a forum of hardcore cryptocurrency fans, but new coin should attract casuals, the people who never knew even about bitcoin, this is the only way to great success. And you need quit different things to attract people from other altcoin threads at bitcoin and to attract people from the Big Internet. And first one dislikes the most things second one likes, it is natural. And we should remember about this when we are discussing new name.

Sorry for my ugly English.)

OrientA

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 18, 2014, 09:33:27 PM

Quote from: sussex on September 18, 2014, 08:18:46 PM

Quote from: windjc on September 18, 2014, 08:15:56 PM

Looks like someone(s) is accumulating. Guess not everybody thinks the rebranding is a bad idea

If you're so confident, allow a fair and open vote.

Rune sucks.

And that's checkmate. Well played sussex.

Let's do a open vote.

iCEBREAKER

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Quote from: orinoco on September 19, 2014, 12:30:49 AM

Choice of proposed names sucks. Boolberry is notably superior from a marketing perspective. Conservative is boring.

Don't bother the authorities with mere facts. Their minds are made up, and have been all along. The fake vote is just for show and sake of pretense.

sussex destroyed their false logic, yet they still play games and patronize us with rigged polls designed solely to produce their preferred predetermined outcome.

orinoco

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Anyone watching this thread about XMR?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/delete-786201

If xbc is right/honest and such a vulnerability exists, it's probably an issue for BBR too, as the vulnerability is allegedly in the ring-signature implementation (i.e. the cryptonote protocol).

Question is - is there such a vulnerability, or is it a market-moving FUD collusion?

edit: Choice of proposed names sucks. Boolberry is notably superior from a marketing perspective. Conservative is boring.

iCEBREAKER

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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.

Quote from: sussex on September 18, 2014, 08:18:46 PM

Quote from: windjc on September 18, 2014, 08:15:56 PM

Looks like someone(s) is accumulating. Guess not everybody thinks the rebranding is a bad idea

If you're so confident, allow a fair and open vote.

Rune sucks.

And that's checkmate. Well played sussex.

windjc

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Quote from: sussex on September 18, 2014, 08:31:27 PM

Quote from: windjc on September 18, 2014, 08:25:45 PM

Quote from: sussex on September 18, 2014, 08:18:46 PM

Quote from: windjc on September 18, 2014, 08:15:56 PM

Quote from: sussex on September 18, 2014, 02:21:03 PM

I guess you're the guy who says coin x price is collapsing because a whale is buying up the coin, when in fact the coin is dying.

It's interesting that you mention this. Has anyone checked the order book on Poloniex since the rebranding started? There are now over 150 BTC in bid walls for over 300k coins. That is close to 25-30% of total supply. I am assuming this is the first time there have ever been this many bid walls.

Looks like someone(s) is accumulating. Guess not everybody thinks the rebranding is a bad idea

If you're so confident, allow a fair and open vote.

Rune sucks.

I don't make the rules here. I'm just trying to help the team. If you want, PM me and lets talk over all your concerns.

You agree the vote isn't fair then?

I think the vote is fair. But the vote wasn't for or against a rebrand. It was for what the new brand would be.

sussex

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Quote from: windjc on September 18, 2014, 08:25:45 PM

Quote from: sussex on September 18, 2014, 08:18:46 PM

Quote from: windjc on September 18, 2014, 08:15:56 PM

Quote from: sussex on September 18, 2014, 02:21:03 PM

I guess you're the guy who says coin x price is collapsing because a whale is buying up the coin, when in fact the coin is dying.

It's interesting that you mention this. Has anyone checked the order book on Poloniex since the rebranding started? There are now over 150 BTC in bid walls for over 300k coins. That is close to 25-30% of total supply. I am assuming this is the first time there have ever been this many bid walls.

Looks like someone(s) is accumulating. Guess not everybody thinks the rebranding is a bad idea

If you're so confident, allow a fair and open vote.

Rune sucks.

I don't make the rules here. I'm just trying to help the team. If you want, PM me and lets talk over all your concerns.

You agree the vote isn't fair then?

windjc

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Quote from: sussex on September 18, 2014, 08:18:46 PM

Quote from: windjc on September 18, 2014, 08:15:56 PM

Quote from: sussex on September 18, 2014, 02:21:03 PM

I guess you're the guy who says coin x price is collapsing because a whale is buying up the coin, when in fact the coin is dying.

It's interesting that you mention this. Has anyone checked the order book on Poloniex since the rebranding started? There are now over 150 BTC in bid walls for over 300k coins. That is close to 25-30% of total supply. I am assuming this is the first time there have ever been this many bid walls.

Looks like someone(s) is accumulating. Guess not everybody thinks the rebranding is a bad idea

If you're so confident, allow a fair and open vote.

Rune sucks.

I don't make the rules here. I'm just trying to help the team. If you want, PM me and lets talk over all your concerns.

windjc

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Quote from: sussex on September 18, 2014, 02:30:34 PM

http://www.fastcompany.com/3014582/leadership-now/why-startups-have-such-stupid-names

Glenn Romanelli, president and creative director of Lighthaus Design - "Take chances, be funny, be weird. You want to be unforgettable"

Great quote. I agree with it in some cases.

After some people expressed concern over the rebrand I reach out to two of my friends. One works for FormulaPR http://www.formulapr.com/ and the other works here http://www.hlgrp.com/ for HL Group. I sent them over the 4 names and asked for some feedback. Both of them are familiar with bitcoin and I explained to them a little about the basic Anon technology and purpose of BBR.

My first friend liked Secore the best. The other one liked Rune.

I asked them specifically about BoolBerry and they both responded that it was their least favorite choice given the nature of the technology. One actually said it would make a good name for a childrens toy.

arielbit

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among the names..boolberry still better..it's quite unique, i imagine coins like mathematical berries Cheesy

sussex

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Quote from: windjc on September 18, 2014, 08:15:56 PM

Quote from: sussex on September 18, 2014, 02:21:03 PM

I guess you're the guy who says coin x price is collapsing because a whale is buying up the coin, when in fact the coin is dying.

It's interesting that you mention this. Has anyone checked the order book on Poloniex since the rebranding started? There are now over 150 BTC in bid walls for over 300k coins. That is close to 25-30% of total supply. I am assuming this is the first time there have ever been this many bid walls.

Looks like someone(s) is accumulating. Guess not everybody thinks the rebranding is a bad idea

If you're so confident, allow a fair and open vote.

Rune sucks.

windjc

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Quote from: sussex on September 18, 2014, 02:21:03 PM

I guess you're the guy who says coin x price is collapsing because a whale is buying up the coin, when in fact the coin is dying.

It's interesting that you mention this. Has anyone checked the order book on Poloniex since the rebranding started? There are now over 150 BTC in bid walls for over 300k coins. That is close to 25-30% of total supply. I am assuming this is the first time there have ever been this many bid walls.

Looks like someone(s) is accumulating. Guess not everybody thinks the rebranding is a bad idea

sussex

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Quote from: tifozi on September 18, 2014, 05:54:43 PM

Rune is winning Grin

Not on the fair, unmodded voting thread it isn't......

Rune    13 (31.7%)
Secore    3 (7.3%)
Vortex    2 (4.9%)
Boolberry    23 (56.1%)

tifozi

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Quote from: dga on September 18, 2014, 05:13:24 PM

Quote from: AdamWhite on September 18, 2014, 12:09:54 PM

windjc is so out of touch he thinks anyone who has a problem with changing the name must be an xmr supporter

Nah. As someone who's tried to correct factual errors in the presentation of BBR in other threads (and, to be fair, errors about other CN coins as well -- I'm a fan of reality, not FUD), the number of times people put the name as the #1 reason that is better than BBR is ... astounding. I don't know if they really believe it, but they yell about it enough that my take on this is that windjc and zoidberg *are* paying attention.

No name is going to make everyone happy. But there is a real trend in historical posts that they're responding to, and while I too have gotten used to BBR, I agree with their decision personally. (And like Rune best of the available options. :-)

Woohoo I was wondering why you hadn't posted yet. It is great to see another strong supporter like the name Rune Cheesy

It simply grows on you and perhaps should have been the name from Day 1. Oh well, better late than never.

Please post your thoughts in the voting thread too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=786527.60

Rune is winning Grin

clintar

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I don't mind the change. I just hope the color stays the same

someone wanna try my SRV record miner?

It needs to be compiled.
Pass -o stratum+tcp://_bbr-pool._tcp.cncoin.farm (no port) and it should get a list of different pools to try to connect to and if it can't connect to one, try the next. It's hard to tell what it's doing right now and it shouldn't be trusted to not break (i think it breaks when i restart my pool, but mine has very low priority, so it'd have to fail all the others to get to mine anyway). I'm just wanting people to see if they can get it working, please. Probably for linux dudes that are used to compiling, or miner devs that want to see where i'm heading.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/105316582/cpuminer-SRV.tar.gz - needs liboop installed.

klee

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Quote from: klee on September 18, 2014, 05:18:30 PM

What about Boolberry Rune ? Tongue

BBRRR

S3MKi

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don't like rune.wtf?

teknohog

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 18, 2014, 02:33:57 PM

Boolberry is completely unique and thus already naturally optimized for search engines.

Speaking of which, "Google" is a totally childish name, the company will never fly. The same goes for Twitter and whatever today's hottest antisocial media is called. They really should have named the search engine something like "secore" for "search core", in the same way that "Word" is a word processor for serious businessmen in dark suits. The real world is not fun, and dealing with money in particular is dead serious business Grin

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